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Samsung Batteries on EBAY (OEM vs. Generic)

Anybody have any experience with the Generic batteries on ebay going for about $5.00 each. Are these classing "you get what you paid for" or are the oem version just way over priced?
Please advise.
Update:
Purchased two batteries + charger (non-oem)... They last half as long as the Samsung OEM.

I bought 2 batteries + usb cable + charger + car charger for $8.99 (+$3.99 shipping) http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Battery-USB-...863749?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f02cc0145
I knew they where not OEM or even not Samsung (like the picture). But they work fine. I have no complain.

floppy__ said:
I bought 2 batteries + usb cable + charger + car charger for $8.99 (+$3.99 shipping) http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Battery-USB-...863749?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f02cc0145
I knew they where not OEM or even not Samsung (like the picture). But they work fine. I have no complain.
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@floppy - Does the car charger put out decent amperage? Or is it slow like USB? Also, the picture makes the battery charger look like a monster - is it as thick as it looks? Can the USB port be used to charge a phone while it is plugged into the wall?
thanks!

If you are looking for a decent car charger, get the Kensington PowerBolt K39224US . It puts out 2.1 amps and fits flush in you cig lighter...

if the wall charger is anything like a previous one i've owned, the dock charges the phone and/or a standalone battery... maybe at the same time, but probably sucks :\

floppy__ said:
I bought 2 batteries + usb cable + charger + car charger for $8.99 (+$3.99 shipping) http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Battery-USB-...863749?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f02cc0145
I knew they where not OEM or even not Samsung (like the picture). But they work fine. I have no complain.
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Does the battery charger in this package come with its own AC power adapter or do I need to use my Captivate USB charger (or other) to charge the batteries? .

tamanaco said:
Does the battery charger in this package come with its own AC power adapter or do I need to use my Captivate USB charger (or other) to charge the batteries? .
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If you look at the additional pics on others and read the specs, you can see the AC prongs on the back of the charger.

you guys know if we already have review of that in the main SGS forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705

Also, if you read through the random shut-down thread, one of teh posts says Samsung is blaming the shut-downs on a charger/battery combination. It would be interesting to see if the aftermarket replacements cause such a problem or if its just a line of crap from Samsung.

I got 2 of the aftermarket batteries along with a charger and they seem fine.
not as good as OEM but do a great job as a backup.

alphadog00 said:
@floppy - Does the car charger put out decent amperage? Or is it slow like USB? Also, the picture makes the battery charger look like a monster - is it as thick as it looks? Can the USB port be used to charge a phone while it is plugged into the wall?
thanks!
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I'm sorry I can't answer your first question because my car has an usb port and I don't use the car charger I received with the bundle.
About the size, it's not really bigger than the battery and yes you can charge your phone trhu the usb cable when in the same time your are charging a spare battery

FireRaider said:
Also, if you read through the random shut-down thread, one of teh posts says Samsung is blaming the shut-downs on a charger/battery combination. It would be interesting to see if the aftermarket replacements cause such a problem or if its just a line of crap from Samsung.
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Mine just shut down with the ebay battery.

I bought batteries for my Samsung, works fine. The package I bought has docking for an extra battery so I can have one fully charged at all times.

AWiseMonkey said:
If you are looking for a decent car charger, get the Kensington PowerBolt K39224US . It puts out 2.1 amps and fits flush in you cig lighter...
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I think you mean k39242us, unless you need an iphone cable. This one is $5 cheaper, I'm getting one soon if anyone wants a review.

AWiseMonkey said:
If you are looking for a decent car charger, get the Kensington PowerBolt K39224US . It puts out 2.1 amps and fits flush in you cig lighter...
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Like this? I thought since it has a usb port, it will charge at the same super slow usb speed?

E_man5112 said:
Like this? I thought since it has a usb port, it will charge at the same super slow usb speed?
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Nope - the port shape doesn't mean anything. The factory charger has a female USB end and it charges faster then a PC USB port.
Keep in mind that all testing (even with an ammeter) shows that the max current the captivate will draw is about 700 mA. There is no reason for any charger that puts out more then 1 amp.
I bought the Griffin power bolt that has 2 1 Amp USB ports - so i can charge 2 devices at once. Also, most car chargers (with just the uSB port - no cable) need to have the data pins shorted or the phone will only draw 500 mA.
There are a couple threads in the Vibrant and i9000 forum that document all this. I modified an extra cable myself and now my phone sees my 1A car charger as an AC charger.

I just got these along with some other stuff.... the charger. The led is red when charging or when complete?

red when charging, blue when fully charged

Does anyone know if this kind of battery is gonna HURT your phone? I know that it might not last as long as the OEM one, that is fine. Just worry if this kind of battery can get over voltage some time that can be bad to your phone ... Anyone confirm about that? Thanks

darron2k3 said:
I bought batteries for my Samsung, works fine. The package I bought has docking for an extra battery so I can have one fully charged at all times.
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I see this on the samsung site, 10 bucks more yields you a stand + charger.
Not bad...I am still debating. Wish it was a dock instead

USB Cable / Car Charger / Wall Charger combo

Hey guys,
Looking for a combo micro-usb wire that also comes with a dual car/wall charger. I dont care if its two pieces or three pieces, but I just care that I can keep the Captivate plugged in and not have any issues using it. The last one I bought was a Duracell three way usb combo that had a retractable wall charger on the travel charger piece, but it wasnt giving enough power to the phone, so i couldnt use it while plugged in.
I have been looking at the "Premium USB power kit" by A Days Tech on Amazon, but im worried its going to be a generic POS and not give enough juice.
Anybody know which of these works?
I guess I can also buy a high quality micro-usb wire and then a high quality USB car charger/wall plug seperately as another option. So any opinions on those are also appreciated.

jbl7979 said:
Hey guys,
Looking for a combo micro-usb wire that also comes with a dual car/wall charger. I dont care if its two pieces or three pieces, but I just care that I can keep the Captivate plugged in and not have any issues using it. The last one I bought was a Duracell three way usb combo that had a retractable wall charger on the travel charger piece, but it wasnt giving enough power to the phone, so i couldnt use it while plugged in.
I have been looking at the "Premium USB power kit" by A Days Tech on Amazon, but im worried its going to be a generic POS and not give enough juice.
Anybody know which of these works?
I guess I can also buy a high quality micro-usb wire and then a high quality USB car charger/wall plug seperately as another option. So any opinions on those are also appreciated.
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There are a bunch of threads on charging these phones. Unless the charger or the cable has the data lines shorted, the phone will only charge at USB rate (~500mA). Even if you have a 1A car charger, the best you will get is USB speed UNLESS you connect the data lines on the cable. I have not seen a car charger that does this.
The most current the phone will draw is around ~750 mA. It will do this when it thinks it is attached to AC.

Hi,
I bought the Scosche HC12V Dual Home Charger, but I haven't received it yet, but from what little I know of the brand they supposedly make good accessories. I should receive it in a few weeks (shipping a captivate and accessories overseas).
Both outputs are rated at 1amp, the only thing is that it does not come with it's own cable.
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-HC12V...X0DER&s=STORE&ie=UTF8&qid=1285613609&sr=1-207

I bought a car charger and separate car-to-wall converter from Monoprice. Total for both items about $5. Maybe it only charges at 500 mA but seems fine to me.
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car charger

Does anyone know - is a 1 amp (1000ma) car charger the recommendation on the mt4g? Where's the best/cheapest place to buy one? It seems like most of the time, amps are specified in product details.
Also, I assume if you charge off of your laptop usb port, that it'll be charging at 1 amp as well?

netter123 said:
Does anyone know - is a 1 amp (1000ma) car charger the recommendation on the mt4g? Where's the best/cheapest place to buy one? It seems like most of the time, amps are specified in product details.
Also, I assume if you charge off of your laptop usb port, that it'll be charging at 1 amp as well?
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Belkin makes a micro usb charger that's 5v 1a. I think I paid 20 bucks for mine. It works well and is TINY. You can use it to charge anything that uses a usb cable.
http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=489423

IGo Makes a great line of chargers. I have their car and home chargers. They work great and if you get a different phone all you have to do is get a new tip. This way you don't have to contantly buy new chargers.

How about $1? Yes, $1.16...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=6766&seq=1&format=2
I have like 5 of these, they work great. Just plug any USB cable in to it and you're set.

if your looking for cheap just hit ebay... you can get the generic's for like a buck with free shipping

i wont touch car chargers with a 10 foot stick... the electirical whine from the alternator distroys Li-Ion batteries...
i use usb to computer or to one of those "emergency battery chargers" just another Li-Ion batt, if you plug the emergency charger into the car, and the phone into the emergency charger the battery in the emergency charger will take the hit....
similar to a couple hundered dollar UPS i have on my server racks

ESKIMOn00b said:
i wont touch car chargers with a 10 foot stick... the electirical whine from the alternator distroys Li-Ion batteries...
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This is a new one for me. Can you back that statement up with proof? (not being rude - just curious)
FYI: A good all-purpose micro usb charger is the Motorola P513 ~$10.00 with S&H on Amazon
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i can poke around on the interwebs... but mostly thats from years of experience with phones, years selling phones, and chargers (RadioShack).
you can prevent all damage by charging the phone while the car (alternator) off, or by using a power inverter, or with the extra LIon batt solution i mentioned above...
NEVER plug the phone (directly) into the car, and then crank the motor, the (electrical) whine is at its worst as the alternator comes up to speed...
at the same time, this is what i tell all my customers:
"cell phones are convenience items, if its not convenient to do, then dont do it"
most people will find the tradeoff of having the phone charged "now" vs diminished batt capacity an easy choice to make... but not all people are like "us"
it surprises me that HTC endorses the use of car chargers with car docks...
but those 1$ chargers on ebay are the worst, most are non-regulated, and could dump 12V into the phone at the smallest problem. 12V will absolutely torch your phone...
you will do what you like... just food for thought

Lost charger

Hi all,
I lost my charger unfortunately.
I did search around but found amazon out of stock.
Where can I buy the charger.
Thanks.

drpratik said:
Hi all,
I lost my charger unfortunately.
I did search around but found amazon out of stock.
Where can I buy the charger.
Thanks.
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http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SPN5...SKM8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312842851&sr=8-1
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-AC-Charger-...758129?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item588f078a71

Thanks a lot.

ANY charger that puts out 1000mA will work with it. Motorola makes "travel" wall chargers that sometimes go on sale for a buck, and have the plug folding into them so it takes less space in a bag. As long as it has a micro-USB plug or takes your USB cable, it will work, does not have to be specific for the phone.
The whole idea of microUSB chargers is part of a larger EU plan to allow for standard chargers with microUSB tips, so you can replace your cell phone but "never" have to replace the wall wart for it.
Just check the power output, most of the Motorola chargers put out 1000mA now because some phones with big batteries (like the Atrix) can use that power to charger quickly. Lower power rating, longer charge times.

You read my mind,
It was just the info I wanted to know.
Thanks.

Bear in mind though, not all micro usb chargers work on atrix. I have a few that dont work but work fine on my other stuff. Im not sure why though. I have an external battery that worked with my nexus one but not my atrix.
I voided my warranty.

Rred said:
ANY charger that puts out 1000mA will work with it.
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The one that comes with the phone in the US is 800ma actually. But as you said, 1000ma would charge it faster.

My atrix charger died so I'm currently using a blackberry charger with 750ma output. The iphone charger works too but it's a slower charge.

Whaddayaknow. The one supplied with my phone says 850mA, the one supplied with my bt earbud is 1000mA. Maybe someone at Motorola is paying attention to profits.<G>
But this is all part of why he industry is moving to standard chargers and why "all" standard chargers should work with standard phones. If a charger doesn't work with this phone, odds are it is too low power or simply a cheap piece of Chinese quality control which has one or more broken contacts in it.
I've gotten USB cables that have the same problem, charge or data not both. that isn't by design but at least one of the four wires in them was broken. Cheap cables is cheap cables--and I've seen cheap cables shipped as OEM from brand names.
Like cables from WD and possibly Moto that have the USB log on the wrong side of the plug--which means they are not entitled to use the logo at all, and the maker does not understand the USB spec.

If you live near a hotel, walk in and say that you left your phone charger in one of the rooms. They usually have boxes of forgotten chargers.

Thanks all for your help.
I started using lg micro USB charger which gives 700 ma.
Will get original one as well.
Thanks again.
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Go to monoprice.com and grab a dual USB / 3 port electrical outlet for like 3 bucks. Then stock up on 6-10ft micro USB cables for a buck a piece.
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Nice idea.
Will surely check out monoprice,
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[Q] Best Charger for OPO

So I'm looking to buy some additional chargers for my OPO. But unfortunately you cannot buy the official charger seperatly. Are there any 3rd party chargers that work just as well? I have a few at home that just don't seem to charge the phone fast enough (also, I think it does not hold the charge as long with these chargers, but that could be the placebo effect.) What should I be looking for in a good charger? Is the wall piece more important that the USB cord. Does the type of USB cord even matter if the wall piece has the right "specs". Any suggestions for chargers to buy (preferably on Amazon since I have Prime).
Thanks for the help!

Definitely look got chargers with high A. I noticed that on my old chargers were the A was 1.3, it would not charge the phone or would charge very slowly. The stock charger is great, I use a different USB cable so it's longer in length.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo.../hands-best-fastest-cheapest-nexus-5-t2729066 is a good charger, for $5 you can get two of them. They're 1.8A slightly less than the stock oneplus one charger but works very well and the length is very long and is cheap.
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zephiK said:
Definitely look got chargers with high A. I noticed that on my old chargers were the A was 1.3, it would not charge the phone or would charge very slowly. The stock charger is great, I use a different USB cable so it's longer in length.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo.../hands-best-fastest-cheapest-nexus-5-t2729066 is a good charger, for $5 you can get two of them. They're 1.8A slightly less than the stock oneplus one charger but works very well and the length is very long and is cheap.
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What is the stock details of the OEM chargers? Not got mine yet and I usually use some old HTC chargers which are 5V/1amp

Cool, thanks man.
I just used that link and unfortunately ( I found more for a few more $ but I can wait.) they are unavailable at this time but ill keep my eye open.

EddyOS said:
What is the stock details of the OEM chargers? Not got mine yet and I usually use some old HTC chargers which are 5V/1amp
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5v=2a
yeah most of mine are around 1a

The galaxy S4 and up chargers are 2A. If you can find some around somewhere.

The OnePlus charger is a 2A 5V part and the included USB cable charges it relatively fast. However, the small length of the cable pissed me off.
I ended up getting 2 of these - http://www.siig.com/it-products/it-accessories/mobile-phone-accessories/3-1a-ac-dc-usb-charger.html . It has a little 1A USB charge port addon for use in the car's 12V port. The main USB port on the charger is a 2.1A port if I remember correctly. Charges as fast or faster than the OnePlus charger included.
The charger has a little removable two-prong plug (like the Apple chargers) and you can stick any random two-pin power cord on this end, basically giving you as much length as you need. That's what I liked a lot about these. Annoying thing though is the blue LED, a bit bright but nothing electrical tape won't fix.
EDIT: Use any charging-only cable, one of the Samsung 2A cables or the Oneplus One cable itself for fast chargng.

I just got this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTGETFG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GF8TIK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
coupled they are killer. The anker hub is amazing...will provide PLENTY of power to anything plugged into it, and the mediabridge cable is 24 AWG, so it can handle the 2amp that the phone requires...plus it's very long.

the blackberry playbook chargers work great. they have long cords and are < $5 on amazon.
i ordered these: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00K8HY132/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
they charge fast and work well.