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[Q] What happened to Calkulin's, Fresh's and Damage Control's ROM developement

Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.

ljohnson1981 said:
Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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I'm assuming you're taking over for them since you posted this in the Dev section? Please post up some of your work so far and the GPL information. Good luck!

If it starts with [Q], probably goes in Q&A, or ask in their respective threads.

Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section

husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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I agree that people need to be a bit more user friendly around here, no need to get snarky. BUT this is a DEV only section and this type of question (even if it is about DEV work really doesn't belong here).
There is nothing wrong with ONE person trying to help the person but instructing them that this is not the right place for their post. That is not playing the role of a MOD, that is part of being in a community. If this type of thing wasn't a problem the MODS would not have made the 10 post requirement before you can even post here.

Honestly there hasn't been any new developments. In my mind as it stands EVO's are done. Unless Sprint/HTC release something new there is nothing left to develop. The ROMS are zipaligned, PNG Optimized, Battery scripted, etc. I have some work I could do one the graphics but ROM wise I don't see anything earth shattering on the horizon.

Damage Control i believe is dead for now (i haven't seen anything on another phone)
Fresh i believe flipz has just been busy and really his rom is working and works well and there havent been any major ground breaking updates that need to be addressed. since fresh is a non themed rom it is a little harder to constantly provide updates when there isnt much to change in the build itself.
Evio - see fresh for most of it.
A lot of the sense based roms that are updated constantly are themed roms which gives them a lot more to play with. they can tweak the look etc even when there arent any major new developmental releases. I am in no way saying this is all that is done and there is nothing wrong with it being done just explaining my belief on why some roms are updated much more often then others. With the Evo fast approaching the one year mark you will probably see much fewer major updates coming and much fewer major developments.
This is my personal opinion and is not fact. I base my opinions off what i have seen on the devs twitter streams and own sites. hopefully it provides more answers.

When all things sense die, you can always switch to aosp lol. Its updated with the latest and greatest. I prefer sense my self but as zone said; most sense roms are maxed out, there's nothing left to do to them.
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As soon as the System Dump/ROM leaks out for the Evo 3D, they will have something new to play with.

I never understood why people keep asking for updates to stable ROMs that are based on Sprint OTA releases, like Fresh and Myn's Twopointwo. I read both of those threads, and every couple pages, you get people asking about new versions or updates to complete, working, stable ROMs. What do people expect?
If you want new features like Sense 2.0 or Gingerbread, don't flash a ROM that is based on OTA updates.

i agree, i think the sense roms are at a standstill until an official 2.3/sense 2.0 build comes down the pipe from HTC/Sprint. (assuming the Evo gets sense 2.0/android 2.3)
i love calk's work, EViO is a great rom. i only switched because i fell in love with CM7

husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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+1 .........

Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..

hopefully there enjoying life and not by a computer every night thinking about updates. But this goes to a deeper question that i think is starting to spark up is everybody tired of there evo's already ? U can flash so many roms until u flash out but at the end of the day a evo is still a evo

CheesyNutz said:
No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section
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I Don't know... so far a lot of the [ROMS] that I've seen are just re-skinned versions of everything else out there, shouldn't most of those go in the Themes and Apps section as well, if we are going to try and get technical ?
I wouldn't technically call half of these ROMS true "Development" but merely Themes, which there is another section for as well. But if you want to get technical:
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This does not actually lay any guidelines as to what is allowed (actually, this was a rather lazy post in regards to setting guidelines (hey, I can't watch people, I'm a Mod, report them if the entire community comes to a consensus as to what should not be here, we will leave it up to the teeming masses, I mean, it worked well enough for Russia after the bolshevik revolution right? Aren't teeming masses of people able to find out what is in the best interest of everyone else that is not them?), what constitutes strictly development, and what constitutes Q&A if it pertains to Development.
It was a valid question about development. People may or may not upgrade their phones and ditch Evo's based on a developer of ROMS as well.

Don't forget Vaelpak
If like myself, one were to prefer some of the Sense elements over the AOSP versions, but also like the obvious increase in performance that comes from the AOSP's lighter weight, don't forget the latest Vaelpak.
Sense ROM-based, but with most of Sense removed. I get my preferred Sense Dialer, VVM, etc, and thanks to Fancy Widget I get a Sense-like clock with more and better functionality. 4G, HDMI, everything works.
There is no perfect ROM, of course it all comes down to preference and opinion anyway. But if anyone is looking for something unique and extremely functional, this is a very interesting option. I flashed his 3.2 about a week ago just to check it out and have not had a reason to leave it...except to flash to the GB ROMs of course!

As was said above, until official gingerbread is out (which we heard was a yes).....don't worry, there will be continued stuff as most of us got screwed with sprint changing the premium upgrades. 2.2 is maxxed out.
Cooler than your EVO

ljohnson1981 said:
Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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LIFE gets in the way sometimes man Calk just had a new baby girl so that is WAY more important than spending all day and night on roms for people to just complain, Damageless was disrespected more than anybody i have ever seen on here sheesh if i was him i would never come back and give time, and Fresh's wife was having some health issues i believe so he had to take care of her.

guyver2077 said:
Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
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The EVO is getting 2.3 w/Sense, but not until it comes out on a new flagship phone (E3D). I wouldn't expect it until July or August.

Mods, I request an enforced ROM thread template

I am getting annoyed of many ROM threads here, because they are
stating "speed improvements, minor fixes, stable" - if you cant name it exactly, i call bull****.
ROMs being based on the same RUU as other ROMs but not stating what is different. please stop wasting my time. i dont want to go sherlock holmes on your ROM. when you just spend 2h, to make a ROM that is basically the same like most other (just differeing in the point above) - thats fine, you can play around and share it here - but PLEASE tell us.
incomplete list of what is working or not. listing only BT as not working and then reading on the third page "animations and browser download dont work" and then a reply "they dont work on any sense 4.0 ROM". Or stuff like "bugs: you tell me". could you please take 10minutes to test against a checklist?!
so whats my point:
I am no ROM developer, but a software developer. And I see all the wonderfull work done here. But i hate the lazy "you all probably know what im talking about" attitude around here. I feel a bit scammed by either the very shiny threads with custom logos and artwork, listing as many points as they can - whats the purpose - you dont sell anything here. Or on the other hand the very short threads that omit the most important points, making the ROMs incompareable - are you hiding something?
so i propose:
an enforced thread layout, that is composed by the community.
some points i would like to see in it:
name
version
based on (RUU revision number, link)
android revision(, sense revision)
type (a coarse classification: stock, themed, bloatfree, desensed, ported, testrelease, AOSP. multiple selection possible)
changes to base (the 5 main topics of this ROM. at least kernel, bootscreen, keyboard, launcher, theme)
dependencies: firmware etc.
screenshot (i know mostly there is no difference, but i personally am a visual type and need them )
a bug checklist (also community build, most usual bugs, states: ok, minor, broken, untested)
a tweaks checklist (e.g. rooted, deodexed, zipaligned, crt, recent apps, APM, battery, /etc/hosts, beats etc.)
APK versions (also a community build checklist, maybe a script for that)
changelog (for each old version a download, for each change a source link, not just "thanks xyuser" - having the ROM in github etc. would be awesome)
I bet there are some more points - i think the non-developers should unite and demand a bit of quality. Develop and enforce a standard. Use this thread to gather ideas.
And inb4 "be gratefull and take what you get" - no, I think chefs have a responsibility to be transparent, they get lots of testers and glory in return. XDA is a central reference for everyone who roots his device. Mods have taken some good steps to clean up the mess. Now its time for the next.
I think the more detailed the information gets, the faster the development will become and users can build trust in what they flash.
Mods, would something like this be possible?

Yes, it will make everything easier for the users too compare one with another.
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MOVZX said:
Yes, it will make everything easier for the users too compare one with another.
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thats what I think. any other oppinions?

jonasb said:
thats what I think. any other oppinions?
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I also agree, There are way to many roms out there, I couldnt possibly flash them all and test them, My phone would be outdated by the time i managed that.
The majority are exactly the same, except with the occasional different theme /tweak /app but other than that i think they are similar...
I also get the feeling that the ROMs are a pretty much copy & paste job (with the exception of the devs that build from scratch)
I would like to see some sort of organization in the development thread.. I have nothing against these ROM Makers, But if the first post pointed out what exactly makes THIS ROM different than any others. i think it would be less confusing to people..

I am so for this. I am tired myself of all the crap too. I would like to know what I'm getting and how stable it truly is. I mean saying it's stable but then u find our in post number 400, that one the newest release there are some bugs which don't make it go for every day use. And if it's kanged, tell us, some do tell us but then same get someone else and make it theirs with some changes but nobody finds out till later. I'm also tired of ppl causing problems for others, whenever they follow rules more than others, and tell them this is such & suches place u better leave. I that's y some really good ppl leave here and sometimes the mods allow it cause they're friends. It's total bs, but this is just how I feel!

+ 1 ^^^
I get belittled sometimes in them threads, Im just trying to ask a simple question and the replies are 'dude.. this was asked ten times already.. look at post 862816745 and you will see....' The damn threads change so fast i cant keep up.. Im not a noob... maybe a novice to the sensation but i know what im doing in general.
People expect everyone to know how to do things - because they have done it themselves so many times... Id rather help someone with the simplest question than shout at them for not asking for help and bricking their phone...
C'mon guys, play nice
Rant over lol
EDIT: Good Idea
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Maybe there should be a forum for 'Original Development' for projects that aren't a variation of another project. I've seen this for other devices' forums.

mugetsu666 said:
I am so for this. I am tired myself of all the crap too. I would like to know what I'm getting and how stable it truly is. I mean saying it's stable but then u find our in post number 400, that one the newest release there are some bugs which don't make it go for every day use. And if it's kanged, tell us, some do tell us but then same get someone else and make it theirs with some changes but nobody finds out till later. I'm also tired of ppl causing problems for others, whenever they follow rules more than others, and tell them this is such & suches place u better leave. I that's y some really good ppl leave here and sometimes the mods allow it cause they're friends. It's total bs, but this is just how I feel!
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Looks like I was never enjoyed my phone even just for 1 day. Today I've installed a ROM, adding many apps from Market which took many hours to setup & configure.
While I've become comfortable with the ROM, something freaked Me ouy: "Oh, there is even better and way more stable ROM available than this current ROM." Downloading, it takes about 1 to 2 hours. Then booted the ROM, but I caught myself disappointed with the news, "This new one has just another clone of the first ROM I've ever tried." Oh no, it has different theme and feels! "All of them are on the same base, same kernel, same etc, etc, etc."
Then, my final decision should be restoring the first ROM through Recovery, but again it takes minutes to complete.
And yet, I fooled with Battery Calibration placebo/myth which actually doesn't exist. Do I need to recalibrate my battery on s ROM changes? No, Google Official has just stated it's just a myth and placebo.
This is what I feel, sorry I mean no offense to any Devs.
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azzledazzle said:
+ 1 ^^^
I get belittled sometimes in them threads, Im just trying to ask a simple question and the replies are 'dude.. this was asked ten times already.. look at post 862816745 and you will see....' The damn threads change so fast i cant keep up.. Im not a noob... maybe a novice to the sensation but i know what im doing in general.
People expect everyone to know how to do things - because they have done it themselves so many times... Id rather help someone with the simplest question than shout at them for not asking for help and bricking their phone...
C'mon guys, play nice
Rant over lol
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Dude I am so with u. Some threads r just so damn long that to every little post would take to long and I would probably never be able to flash a rom. As far as noobs go, we were all noobs at one point. I get most to get me on gtalk so I can help them without some as telling them off. Yeah sometimes it takes me some time but hell I've been able to save quite a few phones.

Its a much better feeling knowing you have helped someone and saved a phone from the horrible stock ROM or possible brick..
Ive done my fair share of helping noobs to help other noobs... Ive also saved a few phones from the trash too
XDA is a community - not a place to rant at people for being a noob - Although there are some hopeless people out there who do not follow the rules, But the majority of us just need some guidance..
The worlds best android developer wasnt born the best... he / she was obviously a noob who learnt from someone else...
The way i see it is that noobs are the future of development so dont hate us

I so agree and am getting ready to learn the cooking game from a friend and great deveolper. He's also getting ready to aquire a sensation and is going to port some of his awesome work from the 3d to the sensation, but make it with ics. Don't know if it'll every see xda because of the drama but it'll be on our teams site. It might make since he does have stuff in evo on xda but I don't know yet.

I'll probably get flamed for this, but that's xda.
The devs don't do this for our convenience. As users who don't pay them a salary, I don't think we're in a position to tell them how they should share what they do. They use their spare time to make something and then choose to share with the masses, which they really didn't have to do. How they choose to present their work should really be up to them IMO.
Besides, if you stick around long enough and read the threads now and then, you'll be able to tell which devs are doing real work versus someone who just forks another person's ROM and throws in some personal tweaks.
Yes most of the ROMs are similar in looks or function, but that's too be expected since everything comes from whatever HTC releases. Each one has its own flavor since each dev has different priorities. Want something totally different? Try one of the WIP AOSP/CM9 builds or maybe MiUI v4.

rawrfische said:
I'll probably get flamed for this, but that's xda.
The devs don't do this for our convenience. As users who don't pay them a salary, I don't think we're in a position to tell them how they should share what they do. They use their spare time to make something and then choose to share with the masses, which they really didn't have to do. How they choose to present their work should really be up to them IMO.
Besides, if you stick around long enough and read the threads now and then, you'll be able to tell which devs are doing real work versus someone who just forks another person's ROM and throws in some personal tweaks.
Yes most of the ROMs are similar in looks or function, but that's too be expected since everything comes from whatever HTC releases. Each one has its own flavor since each dev has different priorities. Want something totally different? Try one of the WIP AOSP/CM9 builds or maybe MiUI v4.
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I think the real question is, WHY are the devs doing it at all? There are motives. I think this thread is basically asking them to spare us. If they decide to pack their ball up and go somewhere else, no big deal. The REAL devs will always stick around.
This thread isn't directed at our "patron devs" but all the no names that pop up with these ridiculous, and misleading, clones while asking for donations.
All in all, no one is forcing us to flash their ROM. It would be nice to have several layers to the dev forum. We need a place to easily see what the pro devs are up to without all the mess in the way. Or, how some genuine developing is coming along...
Matt

I can see it from both sides, All the devs good or bad are still great in their own way.
But some tidying up in the development section wouldnt do any harm... Its like a jumble sale in there, Rummaging around to see whats what. Its ridiculous

Thread cleaned.
Now, you watch your attitude and language or simply face the consequences...

yaddamean, I understand what you mean but I would say the opposite: devs that dont care to be transparent, can host their ROMs on their servers elsewhere. I know this is a quite fundamental difference in views. But i dont get what should be the advantage of being the silent majority.
Good things never come easily.
I bet we would not loose one good dev.

Moved to the about Xda-developers forum as such discussions are not device specific but rather site specific

I agree with u and because of yaddamean and others like him who like to just jump in and flamming ppl. As soon as someone stands up to those kinda ppl, the real supporters of this Site and it's Real dev, get in trouble. That's y ppl leave here too!

broncogr said:
Moved to the about Xda-developers forum as such discussions are not device specific but rather site specific
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this will get us less viewers but more mods hopfully
is there any chance of changing the current practice?

That's y it was moved less attention.

I feel like expressing myself about the roms and kernels available right now for S3;

I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!

Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.

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Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.

True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.

(sorry, had to do it )

Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.

Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.

Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.

Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.

Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back

3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.

andy55 said:
This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!

Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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blaker13 said:
Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.

New S4 phone, what's next?

Hi everyone
I just got a brand new S4 from T Mobile?
What do you guys recommend I install next to it after root?
What is the most reliable ROM out there?
Is WiFi Tethering working at this point?
thank you
Update: this is what it has now
Model: SGH-M919
Android 4.2.2
Baseband M919UVUAMDL
Build number: JDQ39.M919UVUAMDL

gottijr said:
Hi everyone
I just got a brand new S4 from T Mobile?
What do you guys recommend I install next to it after root?
What is the most reliable ROM out there?
Is WiFi Tethering working at this point?
thank you
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Model: SGH-M919
Android 4.2.2
Baseband M919UVUAMDL
Build number: JDQ39.M919UVUAMDL
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Just FYI, asking about which Roms you should go with will be a quick road to nowhere. Just head to the development sections, read the chagelogs for what you may want, download, flash and test.
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nbeebe24 said:
Just FYI, asking about which Roms you should go with will be a quick road to nowhere. Just head to the development sections, read the chagelogs for what you may want, download, flash and test.
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I did that and tried most of them ... before with my old S4
So that's why I'm posting here, to see what more experience ppl might thing that a more reliable rom would be (or setup)
thanks

That is kinda different for everyone though and how they use thier device
Also how you need to try different roms for yourself.
what is good for me might not be good for you.
If you have MK2 on it already might be the only concern.
If you are only try 4.3 or higer roms from my understanding.
And you will have knox on the phone then and no way to get rid of it.

TheArtiszan said:
That is kinda different for everyone though and how they use thier device
Also how you need to try different roms for yourself.
what is good for me might not be good for you.
If you have MK2 on it already might be the only concern.
If you are only try 4.3 or higer roms from my understanding.
And you will have knox on the phone then and no way to get rid of it.
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I'm not sure I understand the MK2 issue and the knox? Could someone please explain what that means and how you know if you have it
thank you in advance

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gottijr said:
I'm not sure I understand the MK2 issue and the knox? Could someone please explain what that means and how you know if you have it
thank you in advance
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Threads asking which roms are the best are not allowed.
Reasking which roms are the best after it's been explained that you shouldn't ask that isn't allowed.
Then asking for answers to questions that have been answered so many hundreds of times in so much unblievable depth that ANY search at all would produce multiple pages of results explaining everything is frowned upon.
Please please please search before posting in the future, especially before starting new threads.
Experience with ROM's does not matter at all in relation to which rom is the best. Only YOU can decide what rom is best for YOU. No one else can help with that process. The most experiences guy in the world might want a really simpel ROM. The biggest novice might want 8 bagillion settings to play with. Or vice versa. This is why such threads are not permitted on XDA.
I promise you that if you search first, and read multiple posts about a subject rather than ask for the answers to be spoonfed to you, that you will learn about this stuff VERY FAST. You will no longer be a novice and will be the one answering someone else's questions in pretty quick time. It's the ONLY way to learn this stuff. It cannot be learned by having the answered handed to you. It's reading posts and seeing how different variations of things have different outcomes that will quickly make you pretty good at this stuff.
It takes more time, but the payoff is much greater. You don't just end up with a mod you want. You end up understanding the mod you want.

Skipjacks said:
Threads asking which roms are the best are not allowed.
Reasking which roms are the best after it's been explained that you shouldn't ask that isn't allowed.
Then asking for answers to questions that have been answered so many hundreds of times in so much unblievable depth that ANY search at all would produce multiple pages of results explaining everything is frowned upon.
Please please please search before posting in the future, especially before starting new threads.
Experience with ROM's does not matter at all in relation to which rom is the best. Only YOU can decide what rom is best for YOU. No one else can help with that process. The most experiences guy in the world might want a really simpel ROM. The biggest novice might want 8 bagillion settings to play with. Or vice versa. This is why such threads are not permitted on XDA.
I promise you that if you search first, and read multiple posts about a subject rather than ask for the answers to be spoonfed to you, that you will learn about this stuff VERY FAST. You will no longer be a novice and will be the one answering someone else's questions in pretty quick time. It's the ONLY way to learn this stuff. It cannot be learned by having the answered handed to you. It's reading posts and seeing how different variations of things have different outcomes that will quickly make you pretty good at this stuff.
It takes more time, but the payoff is much greater. You don't just end up with a mod you want. You end up understanding the mod you want.
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I did some reading before posting, and I could not get my answers after almost 1 hour of surfing over a few pages in different sections. Consider also that I did root and installed custom roms for the last years on at least 10 different phone models. So I'm sure some people here might even have a harder time, understanding some things.
I will respect the forum rules and I apologies for any inconvenience.
Though, it sounds like a very communist rule not to be able to express, what you find as the best rom for you, and why you find it as the best rom, or fit for you.

Wicked v9 just came out. I'd flash that:
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gottijr said:
Though, it sounds like a very communist rule not to be able to express, what you find as the best rom for you, and why you find it as the best rom, or fit for you.
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Its because it often degrades into a battle between one 14 year old who likes X ROM and another 13 year old who loves Y ROM who start fighting about it.
And if such threads aren't contained early, then half the threads on the forum list become ROM comparison threads and nothing of substance ever gets talked about. (Because such discussion will unfortunately never be contained to a single thread.)
And none if it has any relevance to anything. No matter what reasons Joe has for loving his rom, John might hate it for those same reasons. And you might think they are both nuts because a 3rd ROM is the best one ever.
Again, the ONLY way to see what ROM is best for you is to try different ones. It's the only possible way to make this determination.
And it takes a lot more than an hour of reading. Phone modding is not a quickie change. It's an insanely time consuming hobby that will isolate you from friends and family because you'll start to think dinner and a night out and Christmas and stuff like that can wait because you HAVE to flash the latest update to X ROM RIGHT NOW!!!!! Be careful getting into this...it consumes you pretty quick.

Android_Monsters said:
Wicked v9 just came out. I'd flash that:
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I am on wicked v8 and I do notice it's quite nice much less force closes and system (phone) restarts than I am used to after flashing a rom. Smooth and fast. I am just reporting my experience, I like many roms but this one does seem quite smooth and nice and has a cool installer. But ultimately the choice is yours. I can say most any ROM that's on here and available for download should be working very nicely to be released to the public, and should not have a lot if any errors. They don't let junk rom's release here with loads of errors and bugs.
So they all should work good its really a matter of seeing the features you like best and choosing from that. If you really want to compare roms read the comments made by people who use them in that rom's section and see which rom has the most people saying they love it lol

[Q] Custom Kernel vs Stock Kernel

Hey guys, I have a couple questions for those of you who have good kernel knowledge (especially for HTC One M8).
I'd appreciate if you made your replies as noob proof as possible, since I'm not too familiar with how Kernels work, thank you!
1. What are the best known / most common kernels are available for the HTC One M8? (give names)
2. For each kernel mentioned above, what are the pros and cons, and what do they do that's unique? And how do they compare to stock kernel? (remember to make this noob proof)
Thank you guys for your help.
Depending on how much information and the quality of such information, I will compile all replies given here into its own thread as a kernel guide for the M8, and list the usernames of all who helped in the credits.
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1 : check the Android development and original Android development section and count the threads starting with [KERNEL]
2 : The pros and cons.....just read each independent thread, the opening posts contain all needed info with the mods they carry.
It's all written out already. Just take the time to read. And there are already "kernel talk" threads in the general section. Just explore more in the different sections here.

Mr Hofs said:
1 : check the Android development and original Android development section and count the threads starting with [KERNEL]
2 : The pros and cons.....just read each independent thread, the opening posts contain all needed info with the mods they carry.
It's all written out already. Just take the time to read. And there are already "kernel talk" threads in the general section. Just explore more in the different sections here.
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Hehe thanks, you actually pointed out a flaw in one of my questions, which I'll have to correct the OP to better reflect my needs.
Question 1 should probably be, what are the most common or best known kernels for the M8.
And on another note, I'd just like to repeat and emphasise (something which I'll edit the OP as well to make clearer), this honestly needs to be N00b proof, I'm not joking haha I'm good at understanding ROMs and OSs (I'm an IT student btw), but I'm a complete newbie at Kernels.
Your second answer is something I already have done, and what they described there, was pure jargon to me. A list of what the kernel does, but there is no explanations for what each element on the list is.
And about reading the kernel talk threads, I did some research on Kernels and how to choose the best one for me, but none of them explained fully, more like just looked at the major points (over/underclock, touch to wake support etc...) which honestly i can just as easily get from a ROM.
But there's so much more I do not understand yet, which I would appreciate if you, or someone else explained in a simple not too technical way.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with such a question.
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Kyuubi10 said:
And about reading the kernel talk threads, I did some research on Kernels and how to choose the best one for me, but none of them explained fully, more like just looked at the major points (over/underclock, touch to wake support etc...) which honestly i can just as easily get from a ROM.
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If you got those feature from a ROM, its only because the ROM included a custom kernel. You can't have those things without changing the kernel.
To me, custom kernels are a very personal thing. What you get (or don't get) out of them depends a lot on how you use your phone. Therefore, I think that is the reason why most kernel threads won't have much description on the exact benefits. I know lots of folks swear by custom kernels and the features they offer. But personally, I've never been much a kernel flasher or tweaker. Reason being, the times I have messed with kernels, they don't seem to give me much benefit in terms of performance (battery and/or responsiveness) and sometimes even hurt those aspects. But again, YMMV and I think it depends a lot on your setup and how you as an individual use your phone.
On that same note, I think it makes a thread like this difficult to construct; or any opinion given possibly not relevant to all. Like ROMs, its not that hard to look at the threads and discern which are most popular (if that is your goal, popular doesn't always mean best). Then pick a few that look good (seem to meet your needs or wants), try them out, and see what works best for you.
I know that sounds like a cop out; but its what I honestly believe.

@redpoint73
I see what you mean, but I am already limiting things only to the M8. So there shouldn't be that many Kernels go talk about.
Having a look through the forums it's no so well organised as to give a clear view of how each kernel compare to each other.
(note: Not to decide which one is best, but to clearly display differences, which could make it easier to see which one is better for the person)
If I was to make a guide on M8 Kernels I'd try to find what is common among them, what you can 100% expect from all Kernels.
Then I'd start naming the Kernels and displaying the different features (and how they are meant to benefit or how they work, because so far I have only found names/initials, which make it hard for a noob to understand what those features are from just a name).
So yeah, that is what I had in mind.
But its hard from purely reading the individual kernel threads, mostly coz I'm a noob at kernels (which is why I created this thread, to understand better kernels)
I had no idea about i/o schedulers... I just did some research, but the worst part is that there are some kernels which just make the names a joke, making it hard to find out what that scheduler really does. And the OP doesn't explain either.
Same is true for CPU governors. But now I'm just ranting.
It seems as there are not many people who know kernels as well as they think they do.
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Why not make it a bit easier on yourself and participate in this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3103465
Lots of kernel talk,regardless the rom.

I went in as you advised, but it still doesn't cover what I wanted to know, I had to search each specific feature on its own, as I tweaked it.
There are a lot of guides to individual features, no comprehensive guide (with links) for kernels.
I hv decided, I'm gonna play around a bit on my new kernel (ended up going for ElementalX), and then I'll do a kernel guide. Nothing like using a kernel to understand it better right?
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Kyuubi10 said:
I went in as you advised, but it still doesn't cover what I wanted to know, I had to search each specific feature on its own, as I tweaked it.
There are a lot of guides to individual features, no comprehensive guide (with links) for kernels.
I hv decided, I'm gonna play around a bit on my new kernel (ended up going for ElementalX), and then I'll do a kernel guide. Nothing like using a kernel to understand it better right?
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Definitely true there mate, i am on stock as it behaves very good for me. I have no need for a custom one at this moment

Stock is good... I like stock, but I'm trying to learn a bit more, expand my horizons a bit.
Got kinda boring tweaking only the ROM
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Hey guys, as promised, after playing around with Kernels I decided to make a Comprehensive guide on Kernels.
If you wanna have a nosey and give some feedback here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61026926
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