Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
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Not trying to be a jerk, this is a sincere question. I really like my Tilt2 and don't want to get a newer phone with Droid on it. My phone is really, imo, built solid and has almost never failed to perform. I know it's a little heavy, but that doesn't bother me. I really would love to have a fully functional Droid that I could use. Mainly because I really don't like Apple and won't get an Iphone, even though I think the I-4 is a cool phone. Is there anything I can do as a forum member to help get this project further along? I was wondering if we could all maybe tackle 1 thing each and help out. Might not be anything I can do, but I'm willing to help if I can.
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I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel, I think most of the support we had will move towards getting Android on better, newer, and more capable devices like the HD2. In addition, most of the remaining problems with getting Android completely working are the ones that were very difficult to begin with. Things like initializing hardware correctly, and figuring out how to get the various parts of the device to talk to each other. I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
it seemed at first that android for the touch pro would never work but now the only thing that doesnt work is the camera. maybe the touch pro 2 will get to that level some day. who knows.
So from what I gathered, the Tilt 2 won't be having any further development to work with Android? I also still have my Fuze. Is that development continuing? If so, maybe I will keep my Fuze instead of selling it and use it to test with Android?
By the way, what is the real name for the Tilt 2? Is it Rhodium or ?
Thanks guys, this place really ROXS!
I await your replies!
ITAdmin
I'm not sure what you mean by complete. New builds are released all the time, etc. If you mean all hardware functioning, here is the list from Reefer's thread:
NOT WORKING IN THIS BUILD:
BT
Sound (in call mic and earpiece work, no ringtones or music)
Camera
Opengles: using software rendering for the time being.
Battery Meter
For sound, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121743
One guy has made an NDISwrapper for Android...amazing.
For HW3D, look here: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125379
Battery Meter is working very well. It's not accurate (seems like it's 10-15% off) but it shows low, which means you can get charged up in time with no problems. I also recall phhusson saying this WILL be 100% some day, it's just very tedious and time consuming, and everyone is more concerned with making things run better and on more hardware.
In other words, development is still very much active and some very smart people are working on these problems. I believe Mr. Steve Ballmer said it best here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEQhhaJsU4
If you're patient, more of the pieces will come together soon enough and Android for our device will be more complete (relatively speaking). For the record, I'm very content with the state of things. All development from here is just icing on the cake
Mods, if I'm not supposed to link to outside forums, just delete them and/or let me know. That's just where the more technical info is.
i thought sound was fixed already today there was a new build for rhodium?.
i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
bas85 said:
i think sound just got added but not for music. I think they upgraded the sound in the earpiece and speaker works now.
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This is incorrect. Please leave the release posts to those doing the releasing.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I don't think anyone can be sure that Android will ever be finished. The developers have done much for this device, but with the HD2 finally able to boot the Linux kernel... ...I'm honestly kind of doubtful that we will see more development with Android on the Pro2, since AFAIK only one person is working on it (though I hope I'm wrong).
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This is also incorrect. TP2 development is moving along faster now than it has been in a while. Not everyone wants a HD2 just beacuse it can boot android. Sure it has a fancy screen but no hardware keyboard, so i'm not even considering it as an option for a new device. Also, for future reference there are quite a few more than just one person working on this...
Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
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Also, define finished? The OS itself is in constant development. Will Android itself ever be finished? I hope not.
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ok, point taken. When will Android ever be fully functional on the Tilt 2 phone?
Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
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Now! Then! No, Then! When it's done. This isn't a native OS, don't go in expecting perfection. Go in expecting nothing and be amazed with every update. The alternative is to port it yourself. Good luck with that.
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My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
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My initial question was pretty point blank. Don't expect perfection, just would like full functionality on my phone because I like the AnDroid OS. The question was never meant to be a gripe, not sure why it struck a chord with you. I don't know how to port it, so luck is not needed. Thanks anyway
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Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
Code:
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anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
The Jack of Clubs said:
anyone seen how complete android is on the hd2? even the camera works. and it has a sense version. i want one of those 4.3" phones and ive held off because i want my next phone to be an android phone but the only large android phones are cdma. im thinking i may look around for an hd2 soon.
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
Anomoly said:
Are you serious?!?! What you are asking is very disrespectful because You obviously haven't even read the FAQ/WIKI because it states:
5) When will the next release be out? I can't wait to get more features on my phone!
The next release will be out when the developers are able to get it ready. They are contributing their time for free and can't work on it full time. If you want to help speed development, make a donation to one of the main developers to help encourage them, don't pester them by asking a million times when the next release will be out when they won't know until it is ready.
hope this helps clear things up.
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Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
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Didn't have a clue I was being disrespectful. Maybe a couple people here just wear their hearts on their sleeves.
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you didn't have a clue mmh ? what where you thinking ? that those people are well paid for doing it, and because of that your in position to come here and whine ?
and it's nothing about wearing hearts on sleeves, since it's only repeating the obvious like breaking in open doors.
however, I have some question :
Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
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Is it possible to have a feedback from some developer if it is a question of money to make things go further. if yes, what would it be approximately.
because, it is nice to encourage people to donate, but I didn't read anywhere from some person actually working on the project that it is indeed a question of money.
maybe this would be the first thing to find out ? from the developers side, is there anything that "non-aware" people can make to get things go further ?
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there's a bounty started for this, but i haven't been following it, i don't know how up to date it is. i'd link to it, but i'm not allowed to post links yet...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596370
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
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I bought my HD2 as soon as it came out but I still want android on the tp2. I know its frustrating waiting for what seems forever. If you really cant wait go get a better more capable phone. The hd2 is great multipurpose device.
<3 my wing/tp2/hd2
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You might as well wait a few months, there will be a bigger, better, brighter android (as we have seen the last few months) - if you can't wait, the HD2 is very nice.
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like what? it has to work on atts network.
Ok, guys. So I bought this phone called the evo 4g on the first day it came out. I called so many radioshacks that its not even funny how many I called. Ever since I've been in love with this phone that my girlfriend is getting jealous of it . I have searched through every forum of android (phandroid,android central, androidandme, youtube, androidpolice, etc.) I really want to learn more about this android platform from the basic terms to the development. What kind of books should I get for a noob like me? Or if you guys know of other websites that can look into. I know that it won't be an easy task but I am willing to put the necessary time and effort into this. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
thanks.
I love android so much that every day I look into the xda forums just to see whats new. Thanks xda for having this awesome forum.
Just learn java.
Then download all the tools and develop from eclipse.
It is a bit of a pain of a setup process, but once its done, its just a matter of learning java.
Have fun.
I recommend going to http://developer.android.com/ That's the official developer site. Just browse through getting started and move on through the other stuff. As said before, go the eclipse route, its all outlined there. I don't know much Java yet, but their tutorials will give you a good idea how apps work. To really make apps effectively you need to know Java and XML.
I also got some books from here: http://commonsware.com/. You buy a fairly cheap subscription for a year of having access to all their books and updates to those books. I don't think they've updated for 2.2 yet, but they are up to 2.1 with revisions coming soon for 2.2.
Those are probably the two best sources I've found so far. Your other option is App Inventor from Google. Its a visual developing environment. Its fairly easy to use and a cool concept, but won't really let you do as much yet. But you can test basic development there: http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/
I would also suggest just read through these forums often. You learn a lot through tinkering and seeing what others are doing.
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thanks for your help guys, I'll look into it. Yeah, I know that why I like this forum.
Hey all,
Before everybody tells me to go code it myself : I am not a coder. I'm an enthousiast which apreciates good tech and good roms.
Appart Gohma which isn't really alive since his dev goes through personal stuff, there isn't a tru custom rom on the Moto 360 (and it seems too be android-wear wide).
I know a cable has to be made. But it isn't a moonflight...
So my question / discussion topic proposition is : Why? Is there nothing to tweak ? Is it just that Wear needs to mature a bit ?
I remember in the (not so) old days, (HTC Desire) when roms offered new ways of using the phone, new perspectives or designs.
Now Android got so good, you can tweak and add stuff, but you don't really change it anymore. Why isn't it the same with wear ?
Hope to see an intelligent discussion arrise
Have a nice day.
I just got this watch yesterday paid 99$ for it couldn't ask for better price, but seriously why do you need custom roms for it? it's just a watch. It is not supposed to replace your smartphone but make your life litte easier at times
that's how I see it.
patt2k said:
I just got this watch yesterday paid 99$ for it couldn't ask for better price, but seriously why do you need custom roms for it? it's just a watch. It is not supposed to replace your smartphone but make your life litte easier at times
that's how I see it.
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Wow, that's a steal.
It just nice too have something more unique, better performance, better battery, less bugs...
An integrated app drawer things like that...
Not a whole new thing, just perfecting things and adding what Google forgot.
Shouldn't we be happy it works... I mean this by no means supposed to be a hackable item it's an accessory at best. Flash your phone and Google is bring more features to the device which ten years ago a product being updated like this would have been updated once if that.... via usb.... so wait for the 5.1 update
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It'll take a while before more creative minds discover what we can do with these watches
ChriKn said:
Hey all,
Before everybody tells me to go code it myself : I am not a coder. I'm an enthousiast which apreciates good tech and good roms.
Appart Gohma which isn't really alive since his dev goes through personal stuff, there isn't a tru custom rom on the Moto 360 (and it seems too be android-wear wide).
I know a cable has to be made. But it isn't a moonflight...
So my question / discussion topic proposition is : Why? Is there nothing to tweak ? Is it just that Wear needs to mature a bit ?
I remember in the (not so) old days, (HTC Desire) when roms offered new ways of using the phone, new perspectives or designs.
Now Android got so good, you can tweak and add stuff, but you don't really change it anymore. Why isn't it the same with wear ?
Hope to see an intelligent discussion arrise
Have a nice day.
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On android, most developers don't write all the mods you see, they pull them from popular repos like Omni, AOSPA, and Slim, which most of those derive originally from CM.
Android wear has no popular custom rom base created yet. So no one can just Kang stuff and release, all mods made for wear are written by the developer.
It works, but not always as good as could be i.e , while on the charge the backlights gets on random times or stuff like that...
A rather good point about original content, but even just fixing what is existing (like gohma) is partially non-existing.
I just hope that when Motorola spots updating the watch some people might get on board to maintain this piece of art.
I know this sounds dumb, as I could try to do it myself, but I just am not good at this.
It would have been alot easier if the Moto 360 just had a normal micro usb or any other connection other than making one yourself. If someone could mass produce the cable I think the user base that would want a custom ROM/kernel would increase by ALOT.
Guys, Most of my questions are getting ignored. I am hoping it's because no one has an answer and not just because those that have answers choose to not answer my question for whatever reason. Although a couple questions should be easy answers for people. Just not easy for me. LOL
In any event, I want to Develop for the Galaxy S6 EDGE. I am wondering how I set up an EDGE emulator in Android Studio.
If I can't, is there a better Program to develop with that does have an S6 EDGE emulator?
Once I get that question answered, I would like to know if I can make a copy of my stock ROM, and port it in to whatever tool I will be using to develop with.
Answers to these questions (Even if it's a Google Link and you telling me to go here and read, so long as the page I land on does indeed answer the questions) would be GREATLY appreciated. More appreciated than just people who come in, Look, and then go out.
Thanks All!!
Judging from your post count I can see that your just getting started here, now if you take time to read all the threads concerning the S6 & S6EDGE you can see that the development here is at a snails pace.
The main reason is that this phone is a whole different creature as compared to all other android phones before it, and anything that worked before doesn't work the same way now when it comes to developing on this platform ( 64 bit as compared to 32 bit operating systems ) as it did in the past.
The programs you refer to may not even be updated as of yet to work with the new operating system let alone the Samsung security that's been implemented on the S6e that can brick your phone with FRP turning your phone into an expensive paperweight.
This android is a whole new recipe with a lack of ingredients that devs are having trouble finding.
Don't think your been ignored, it's just that not to much is going on here and it may be a while before new technology comes along that can make development what it used to be.
Read more.
Pp.
Thanks for the response Pancho, I realize this is a whole different beast to work with. I was posting my questions because I do see some development going on so I was hoping the Devs responsible for what has been done, would step up and answer my questions.
That being said tho, 1 question does remain that should be answerable (and that I've asked but was never responded to), can A Rom posted here, be downloaded to a computer and then imported into Android Studio (Or another Android Dev Program). If it's able to be imported into Android Studio, I should then be able to fire up an emulator with that rom loaded and work on it.
Make no mistake tho, I do NOT plan on KANGING anything. I have 2 reasons for why I want to know this information.
1. Because I'd like to see what a rom looks like in action before I put it on my phone (I don't like flashing and reflashing and reflashing ect...)
2. I can see how another developer did what did and as such learn from it. I learn by deconstructing so to speak.
I would research Android Studio and find there forum or website and go from there, I never heard of it and don't know if the "one" developer here even uses it, but the only input your going to get is from someone who uses the program.
Try YouTube, maybe someone's posted a video or tutorial on how to use this or similar programs.
Also if you go to the "Android Development & Hacking" section in the main forum you may find what your looking for.
Google is your friend. :sly:
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First of all, my apologies if this is the wrong section to post this as I'm honestly not sure where to put this in order address developers for cross-device development.
I'm looking for a port of MIUI11/12 for atleast my device specific (S10+).
After moving on from a Mi5 -> OP6 (MIUI11) -> S10+ (Stock) I really miss the beauty and elegance that MIUI offers.
Please refrain yourself from advising me to swap/switch phone, that's not what I'm asking for.
I can spare 0 euro (revoked, see edit) via Paypal for a working (stable enough for daily driver) port of MIUI11/12, and I'm perfectly aware that this is fairly low budget for development/debugging time.
It's just a motivation (hopefully) for a developer to start working on porting it for our device.
Again, I'm sorry if this isn't the right place. I also apologize if anyone feels offended by this thread in any way (under-appreciation or similar).
As a sidenote; I can test early builds, and I'm willing to help out sending debug logs etc if that has any beneficial aid towards getting a (semi-)stable rom.
Thank you in advance.
Edit: I'm opting out of this offer as I've sold my S10+ to buy a different device.
I will keep the thread as is in case other have the same question as I had.
great idea... ✌?
Not that I hate the idea but that kind of makes no sense. The most expensive thing Samsung's smartphones have is software. I had a lot of phones and used a lot of ROMs but nothing beats debloated OneUI (HadesROM). At times I check out AOSP based ROMs just to find out I can't use it anymore. Give it a chance. Isn't MIUI Xiaomi's overlay?
Vatt`ghern said:
Give it a chance.
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I've tried Stock, Hades, Havoc and Derp but nothing compares to the UI/Smoothness that MIUI offers.
Now I'm back on stock because I feel like it's the best of all current options.
I gave it a chance
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