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Hello, I would like to modify an IPhone's dock in order to plug HD2 instead.
If I post this tread, it's because I already thought about this question :
1) Power 5V
By retrieving the power from the IPhone connector it's possible to have 5V and adapt it on an micro USB cable. Next simply mount the connector in place of the older.
2) audio jack 3.5
By removing the IPhone connector, there is enouth space to mount the jack 3.5 for the audio output just near the micro USB connector. We just have to connect this jack to the analog input of the dock (most IPhone dock have an analog input)
3) remote control
This is the point I need help : When you plug your HD2's headset into the phone, you have a mini remote control on the cable for :
- move forward
- move backward
- play / stop
How to adapt the dock's commands for the HD2's commands and send them through the jack 3.5 ?
All other commands are managed by the dock :
- mute
- volume
- standby
Thanks to help me in this task and excuse me for my bad english.
I think it would be easier to get one of these docks than to make your own (Trust me, i've tried )
Thanks Badwolves, but no one of them are "audio dock" and no one has got a remote control.
It's not in the subject
If i see anything, i'll let you know
The HD2 docks are also huge and bulky-- why can't anyone make something small and sleek like the iPhone dock?
I'd rather keep the phone sitting on the desk with a cable hanging out than have such a big ugly dock taking up space on my desk.
Hi,
I am also looking for something similar. What I would like is some kind of adaptor to convert a Bose sound dock for ipod/iphone in to a micro usb. Surely someone in china has done this
Not an iPhone dock but...
http://www.htcsource.com/2010/05/desk-genie-universal-dock-review/
Hello Everyone..
I have found this website very usefull and would like to thank everyone for the great information given so far regarding HTC Touch Pro 2..
I have a HTC Touch Pro 2 and the details about its ROM version and Operating system are listed in my signature...
I have a SONY car mp3 car audio system inbuilt in my car.. It has USB support ------ but no bluetooth support.
I wish to use the car system as follows.. Say if I plug my HTC Touch Pro 2 as USB to my car system, then it should play the audio from my mobile.
At the moment, it does so, but my car simply considers my phone as a USB device..
But, my requirement is something different... Say if I play a video in my HTC Touch Pro 2. But I wish to use my car speakers for playing the audio of the ongoing video in my mobile.
Is it possible?
Like mentioned earlier, if I plug my mobile to my cars USB, it simply plays as USB device, where I have no control on my phone sound files. But I wish to use the car speakers for any video file that I play on my mobile.. Can this be achieved?
Looking forward for any kind of helpful information...
Or to be more particular with my requirement...
I wish to use my HTC Touch Pro 2's screen as video screen and use my car speakers for the sound output. Both can be connected via USB as my car system supports USB.
I do not have bluetooth in my car system.
Need a solution if this can be achieved..
Isn't there any solution to my request?
Only way I could think is to plug a male-to-male audio cable from your phone to your receiver's line-in jack (hopefully if it has USB, it also has a standard 3.5mm line in).
StaticMatt said:
Only way I could think is to plug a male-to-male audio cable from your phone to your receiver's line-in jack (hopefully if it has USB, it also has a standard 3.5mm line in).
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Excellent mate... Indeed it did the trick.. I now have mini home theater in my car
Too good man.. too good.. Thanks StaticMatt.. Wish I could add some kind of reputation to you
I have the Fuze and now the Tilt 2. The nice thing HTC created was the TV out feature. I found the right cable after a lot of searching, and I have my Tilt 2 in my Proclip mount, which is mounted on the dashboard, the cable runs from the mount back inside the dash, where the port connections split up for power and A/V out. I have power feeding the cable which keeps the Tilt 2 charging at all times and the A/V cable plugs into the back of my Pioneer AVIC D-3 and wala, anything I see on the Tilt is also visible on the AVIC, and all sound comes through the car audio system.
I have my slingbox mobile installed on the Tilt so I can connect to my satellite receiver at home and watch anything I want and also load movies on the 16GB microSD card. It has amazing picture quality and the sound is perfect. When a call comes in, the movie or TV pauses and resumes once the call is finished.
I really couldn't ask for more. It's especially handy when you are waiting for someone and you have time to kill, or you want to watch the latest episode of Glenn Beck at 5PM EST and can't get home in time. It's also nice for reading those emails and text messages while at a stop light because of the big screen on the AVIC.
Obviously, it's not a good idea to be watching TV while driving so anything over 5 MPH and the AVIC video display goes dark, but the audio keeps on humming!
Ahhh Life is good!
ITAdmin
No problem
Hello all ,
Is there a way to get an audio line-out from the Galaxy Nexus, either using an adapter or a docking station? I'm not looking for a solution like the one offered by the Samsung Galaxy S2's car dock (which streams bluetooth audio from the phone to the dock, then the dock turns the bluetooth streaming to analog audio through a 3.5mm port) but rather something like an adapter for the MHL port or from the docking station.
Appreciate all the help!
The obvious solution (at least to me) is to plug into the headphone jack. You could also use either the media dock or MHL adapter in conjunction with an HDMI-to-analog adapter such as the one linked below:
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-RCA-comp...OQPU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321905031&sr=8-2
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The obvious solution (at least to me) is to plug into the headphone jack. You could also use either the media dock or MHL adapter in conjunction with an HDMI-to-analog adapter such as the one linked below:
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-RCA-comp...OQPU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321905031&sr=8-2
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He's asking for a line out solution because it will bypass the internal headphone amp that is utilized when the 3.5mm port is used. If you're plugging the phone into speakers or a sound system that way you'll get much better sound.
If the mhl -> HDMI cable adapter carries both audio and video, you could use an hdmi breakout adapter to split the digital audio. It depends on the HDMI output capabilities of the phone and the acceptability of digital audio for your needs.
Edit: would no doubt be a cumbersome solution. It all comes down to your usage scenario for the output.
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Thank you vespoid, ardabey.
What OJ in Compton said, I'm looking to bypass the internal headphone amp, not sure if there are any details on the car dock or desk dock, I hope 3rd party manufacturers come up with something, any solutions are welcome.
Ali
Never thought about this, but a contactless dock with HDMI out directly to the AMP = audio bliss. Thanks to the forum for letting me see the obvious
Bumping this thread...has anyone successfully done this? I want line out audio for my car's 3.5mm AUX input - had it with my ipod and it sounded much better than through the headphone jack, as well the convenience of not having to maintain two volumes.
Hoping the official car dock that uses the 3 pin connector and has a 3.5 out would do this, but I'm worried it will just use BT to transmit the audio to the dock like I read the Nexus One dock did.
I wish too that the NG had line level out.
I think it's a limitation of the hardware. I think Apple is the online one that really uses line level out via it's dock connector.
I hope someday Google will use some sort of line level out on their reference hardware or built support directly into a newer OS.
I remember my old Dell DJ had line level out. Soooooo much better.
There is nothing wrong with the 3.5mm output sound quality wise.
Trying to drive headphone-like impedance (lower) with a line out isn't the best idea, but driving higher impedance inputs like your car deck isn't that bad as long as you let the amps do the "work" of boosting the volume and not your phone. While not optimal, the decrease in sound quality shouldn't be very noticeable.
The main advantage of the digital audio though USB (what apple does) IMO is that it eliminates the need to have both the USB plugged in to charge and the 3.5 mm cord for audio. It also allows song data to be shared and device control from the speaker/head unit. Good setups will recognize most android devices as mass USB storage and provide the same functionality, but I'm not sure how the MTS on the GN will affect this.
I would wait and see how the audio quality is from the dock. Even if it is bluetooth, the audio quality may not be that bad.
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There is nothing wrong with the 3.5mm output sound quality wise.
Trying to drive headphone-like impedance (lower) with a line out isn't the best idea, but driving higher impedance inputs like your car deck isn't that bad as long as you let the amps do the "work" of boosting the volume and not your phone. While not optimal, the decrease in sound quality shouldn't be very noticeable.
The main advantage of the digital audio though USB (what apple does) IMO is that it eliminates the need to have both the USB plugged in to charge and the 3.5 mm cord for audio. It also allows song data to be shared and device control from the speaker/head unit. Good setups will recognize most android devices as mass USB storage and provide the same functionality, but I'm not sure how the MTS on the GN will affect this.
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The problem is, that if the head unit supports MTP then yes it can read the device like mass-storage, thats fine, but it doesn't allow you to stream media from radio apps, youtube and turn-by-turn directions from gps, this is what we are looking for...
technically it's not sending analog audio output through the USB, its just reading the stored media on the phone.
I have read that samsung phones are able to accomplish sending analog audio through the USB while charging, with the correct resistance values (adapter) or possibly with software pointing the audio in that direction (for example code build into the framework/API)
this is one major thing that Android lacks over iPhone, this problem should be addressed ASAP. I'm hoping CM9 might be able to find a solution for this.
I agree, i hope they fix this soon toi. It would make the development of accessories much easier for all android phones. Seems like a no brainer but I guess Google has other priorities...
A feature request for Android 4.0 to enable USB audio:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
Juvenall said:
A feature request for Android 4.0 to enable USB audio:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
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Just starred this, if the hardware is able to do that I find it completely stupid that they do not allow it.
Smartphones audio amps are not exactly famous for being top-quality so having this possibility would be great.
Thanks. The lack of this feature is ridiculous/mind-boggling/suprising.
Well, if you were waiting for the card dock to solve your problems... it doesn't. Plugging into the dock's "line out" gets you amp driven sound. I really do not understand why this is such an issue for Android. When I plug somoething into my 3 year old Nokia smartphone a window pops up for me to choose headphones, headset or line out. Why can't ICS offer the option and if in the car dock, default to line out? A USB solution is not going to help if you are using the car dock.
Juvenall said:
A feature request for Android 4.0 to enable USB audio:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
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Yes, most def. I want to use several USB dacs on hand. Off for some op amp rollin'.
Edit: The pogo pin dock has a 3.5mm analog/digital output, FYI
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flacoff said:
Edit: The pogo pin dock has a 3.5mm analog/digital output, FYI
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Which if I understand correctly uses Bluetooth to transmit compressed audio from the phone to the dock, then delivers it through the 3.5mm jack. Why not just have a digital signal go through the USB port!?
ali87 said:
Which if I understand correctly uses Bluetooth to transmit compressed audio from the phone to the dock, then delivers it through the 3.5mm jack. Why not just have a digital signal go through the USB port!?
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actually the pogo pin transfers the digitial audio and the dock decodes it into analog to the 3.5mm output
Hey everyone, I've been searching for a cheaper alternative to the expensive desktop dock samsung sells. It will mostly be used as a clean audio out for speakers and headphones, charging and sync would be a plus. Does anyone know of a good alternative out there? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
im no pro at this, but it seems like the best kinda thing is gonna have to use the 3 mm audio jack as a trick to do it.
as an example, if you ebay "Loud Stereo Dock Station Speaker for iPod iPhone 3G/4 4S MP3 Android Phone 3.5MM"
I have a digital AV Receiver with HDMI inputs and bought the HDMI dock from Samsung for less then 15€. The digital audio signal via HDMI can be used even without video output.
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im no pro at this, but it seems like the best kinda thing is gonna have to use the 3 mm audio jack as a trick to do it.
as an example, if you ebay "Loud Stereo Dock Station Speaker for iPod iPhone 3G/4 4S MP3 Android Phone 3.5MM"
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Yea that's basically what I'm looking for, a dock with 3.5mm audio out and has the ability to charge + sync would be nice. I actually found a cheap 10$ one on ebay and a 30$ one on amazon from samsung themselves which isn't too bad, both that claim to do just that, so we'll see. I would post links but the forum wont let me until l I have 10 posts. Apparently there's an app that will allow me to use the usb audio out function straight from the phone which would be awesome, then I can bring in a DAC and amp into the mix.
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I have a digital AV Receiver with HDMI inputs and bought the HDMI dock from Samsung for less then 15€. The digital audio signal via HDMI can be used even without video output.
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Yea I thought of that as well, and I may get one of those too to hook up to my hdtv but as for speakers and headphones the 3.5mm audio out would be key
So I sold my Nexus 7, for the 8.0, for the MHL capability because I have the AppRadio2 and want to output the video onto the screen and audio to the car speakers. The only problem is that it doesn't seem like the 8.0 outputs audio through the mhl cable. I've tried multiple cables multiple external displays... The works. But can't seem to get audio to an external device. I've also tried an audio output app and that didn't work either. Any information is helpful. Thanks in advance guys
Wait...So are you getting video only, and no audio, or nothing at all???
Did you check the Android settings under "Accessories" for audio output options when docked or when other accessories are attached?
BTW, are you using the ARliberator App?
First of all, I don't think that the Note 8.0 is on Pioneer's list of approved/confirmed devices for use on the AppRadio2.
Also, the MHL/HDMI adapter that is sold in Pioneer's "Android Connection Kit" is the older 5-pin micro-USB connector.
You tried it with Samsung's newer 11-pin microUSB/MHL-to-HDMI adapter that is made for the SGS3 and Note2, right??? And you are plugging in the adapter to a microUSB charger, right? It will not work without this.
Pioneer's and Samsung's adapter for the SGS2 and original Note 5.3" will not work because it is the older 5-pin microUSB/MHL connector. You can buy the Samsung 5-pin to 11-pin MHL adapter for about $10 that should allow the older MHL/HDMI adapter to work:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Samsung-Adapter-Converter-EPL-FU10BEBSTD/dp/B0083FYL0O/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1366945559&sr=1-6&keywords=samsung+5-pin+to+11-pin+mhl+adapter
I don't know why you'd want to use the smaller and lower Res AppRadio2's screen over the Note 8.0's anyway?!? I guess you lose AM/FM tuner and the Backup Camera if you have one.
You can bypass the AppRadio2 and just use your Tablet to get RCA line level preouts and Digital Optical (Toslink) audio from the Note 8.0 if you use the MHL adapter with this $40 device:
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Premium-Audio-Extractor-Converter/dp/B00AHS8LD8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366941077&sr=8-1&keywords=viewhd+hdmi+digital+audio
Oh, but I forgot to mention that you would need separate car audio amplifiers to power your speakers for this setup to work. :/
I just returned my AppRadio2 and am using my SGN2 with this adapter in my car audio system to get digital audio output sent from my Note 2 to the digital optical input of my RF 3Sixty.3 DSP, then to my amplifiers and then speakers.
I'm using my Note 2 because I wanted to use just one audio source/device, that also has cell phone capability. The AppRadio2's built-in Dialer/Phone app borked/hid my Note 2's Keypad when it forces the display into landscape mode. :/ I guess that I could have used Tasker to switch back to portrait when the dialer/phone app opened, but then it is tiny on the AppRadio2's display. The International GT-N7100 SGN2 also has a hardware FM Tuner, or I use TuneIn Radio to stream almost any AM/FM station worldwide.
My car also came with a handsfree Bluetooth setup that worked much better than the AppRadio2.
I'm also using the Samsung SGS2 SmartDock in combination with the USB JoyCon EXR plugged into the SmartDock to keep my OEM Steering Wheel Controls and add extra functions to my SWC by long-pressing the buttons, etc. You have to program the JoyCon EXR with your PC before installing it, but it works great to control your Android's audio player functions with your SWC.
If you do get it working, you'll probably want to use the "Screen Standby #root" app to turn off the Note 8.0's screen backlight without putting it to sleep so it charges up faster. You must be rooted to use this app, however.
bbfoto said:
Wait...So are you getting video only, and no audio, or nothing at all???
Are you using the ARliberator App?
First of all, I don't think that the Note 8.0 is on Pioneer's list of approved/confirmed devices for use on the AppRadio2.
Also, the MHL/HDMI adapter that is sold in Pioneer's "Android Connection Kit" is the older 5-pin micro-USB connector.
You tried it with Samsung's newer 11-pin microUSB/MHL-to-HDMI adapter that is made for the SGS3 and Note2, right??? And you are plugging in the adapter to a microUSB charger, right? It will not work without this.
Pioneer's and Samsung's adapter for the SGS2 and original Note 5.3" will not work because it is the older 5-pin microUSB/MHL connector. You can buy just the 5-pin to 11-pin MHL adapter for about $12 that should allow it to work if you have the older MHL/HDMI adapter.
I don't know why you'd want to use the smaller and lower Res AppRadio2's screen over the Note 8.0's anyway?!? I guess you lose AM/FM tuner and the Backup Camera if you have one.
You can bypass the AppRadio2 and just use your Tablet to get RCA line level preouts and Digital Optical (Toslink) audio from the Note 8.0 if you use the MHL adapter with this $40 device:
Oh, but I forgot to mention that you would need separate car audio amplifiers to power your speakers for this setup to work. :/
I just returned my AppRadio2 and am using my SGN2 with this adapter in my car audio system to get digital audio output sent from my Note 2 to the digital optical input of my RF 3Sixty.3 DSP, then to my amplifiers and then speakers.
I'm using my Note 2 because I wanted one audio source/device, with cell phone capability...the AppRadio2's built-in Dialer/Phone app borked/hid my Note 2's Keypad when it forces the display into landscape mode. :/ I guess that I could have used Tasker to switch back to portrait when the dialer/phone app opened, but then it is tiny on the AppRadio2's display.
I'm also using the Samsung SGS2 SmartDock in combination with the USB JoyCon EXR plugged into the SmartDock to keep my OEM Steering Wheel Controls and add extra functions to my SWC by long-pressing the buttons, etc. You have to program the JoyCon EXR with your PC before installing it, but it works great to control your Android's audio player functions with your SWC.
If you do get it working, you'll probably want to use the "Screen Standby #root" app to turn off the Note 8.0's screen backlight without putting it to sleep so it charges up faster. You must be rooted to use this app, however.
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I am using ARLiberator, and in terms of compatibility its not an issue considering I'm using the MHL and not the Pioneer "Android Kit". I think it is an issue with the device itself because I tried other cables and other displays and it just doesnt seem to be able to output audio through the MHL
tmaclax013 said:
I am using ARLiberator, and in terms of compatibility its not an issue considering I'm using the MHL and not the Pioneer "Android Kit". I think it is an issue with the device itself because I tried other cables and other displays and it just doesnt seem to be able to output audio through the MHL
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So you ARE getting video out, just no audio?
Hmmm...weird. You are using the 11-pin MHL adapter though, right? The "Android Connection Kit" uses a "MHL" adapter, too, and it is actually better than the Samsung original, but it is 5-pin, and won't work with newer devices. So I just wanted to be sure you are using the 11-pin MHL adapter made for the Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
Also, maybe check that the audio output settings are set to "Stereo" (2 Channel), and not to "5.1 Surround"? IDK?
Have you done the new firmware updates on the Note 8.0 yet? There is a thread here about it.
tmaclax013 said:
I am using ARLiberator, and in terms of compatibility its not an issue considering I'm using the MHL and not the Pioneer "Android Kit". I think it is an issue with the device itself because I tried other cables and other displays and it just doesnt seem to be able to output audio through the MHL
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This is probably a dumb question, but you have checked the volume level on the note once connected, right?
I just setup an HDMI connection on my unit and didn't get audio at first. Turns out that it doesn't send line level audio over HDMI. It creates a new mixer item that is muted by default on the note side.
Once I adjusted that, everything worked fine. Best of luck.
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Rottgrub said:
This is probably a dumb question, but you have checked the volume level on the note once connected, right?
I just setup an HDMI connection on my unit and didn't get audio at first. Turns out that it doesn't send line level audio over HDMI. It creates a new mixer item that is muted by default on the note side.
Once I adjusted that, everything worked fine. Best of luck.
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I couldnt figure it out, so after all was said and done, I just factory reset it, and now it works. Although it was kind of a pain, it turned out ok in the end
Bummer you had to resort to a factory reset, but glad it's working for you now! Rock on.
tmaclax013 said:
So I sold my Nexus 7, for the 8.0, for the MHL capability because I have the AppRadio2 and want to output the video onto the screen and audio to the car speakers. The only problem is that it doesn't seem like the 8.0 outputs audio through the mhl cable. I've tried multiple cables multiple external displays... The works. But can't seem to get audio to an external device. I've also tried an audio output app and that didn't work either. Any information is helpful. Thanks in advance guys
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I'm not sure if this is a HDCP issue or a implementation issue but that's likely the way it is.
On my Galaxy S3, last time I tried it, I think you could have audio over Bluetooth or jack while doing HDMI/MHL video out. But it's been quite a while since I've had the cable. (It's perfectly fine on the SII X/Hercules as I had my fiancee try it before I got myself the wireless adapter.)
Under the Miracast (AllShare Cast) stuff, you are only able to direct audio through the dongle and thus need an adaptor that can split off the audio from the HDMI somehow, assuming those support the necessary HDCP crap.