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Hi Guys,
I have an Unlocked T-Mobile G2 Touch - AKA - HERO !!!
I have installed new firmware / roms on Nokia phones numerous times but Android is new to me - however i wont go back to Nokia as the Hero is great...
CAN SOMEONE ON HERE POST AN IDIOTS GUIDE MAYBE WITH VIDEO ON HOW TO DEBRAND / INSTALL ORIGINAL HTC HERO ROM
I have tried and failed reading numerous posts and there are plenty of newcomers here that are after the same.....
Please, Please help us newbies to ANDROID out...
Thanks
Checkout this link:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...and-your-orange-t-mo-etc-device-via-nandroid/
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packetlss said:
Checkout this link:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...and-your-orange-t-mo-etc-device-via-nandroid/
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Hi - Thanks for that but i got lost on the keep original name etc..... - I think i must be an idiot !!! HELP - someone put a step by step guide up please...
I'd second this request.
Looking through posts on modaco and here it's not obvious what you have to do and why you are doing it.
What is nandroid and recovery image etc ?
cheers
And if it could be Mac and Windows information, not all of us are Windows based here
joemax said:
And if it could be Mac and Windows information, not all of us are Windows based here
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Exactly!!!
A lot of us are Linux users too!!!
No offense, but please get more into adb and all the tools needed for reflashing.
Making things idiot proof is useless in my opinion. If you have no idea how to use adb, why upgrade anyway? Chances are you won't understand most custom upgrades/tweaks anyway..
All releases by HTC will be idiot proof, no doubt about it, but installing a custom rom takes skill, knowledge and patience.
In general, an idiot posseses none of the above.
Second, there are no custom roms available for the Hero.
If you want to install custom roms in the future, take some time to understand things. Spoonfeeding this info won't learn you anything.
Sykow said:
No offense, but please get more into adb and all the tools needed for reflashing.
Making things idiot proof is useless in my opinion. If you have no idea how to use adb, why upgrade anyway? Chances are you won't understand most custom upgrades/tweaks anyway..
All releases by HTC will be idiot proof, no doubt about it, but installing a custom rom takes skill, knowledge and patience.
In general, an idiot posseses none of the above.
Second, there are no custom roms available for the Hero.
If you want to install custom roms in the future, take some time to understand things. Spoonfeeding this info won't learn you anything.
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Hey Sykow, I understand your point but it wasn't helpful. It's comments like these that can deter a newbie from asking questions. A person must ask questions to learn.
No doubt some of the skills needed to load custom firmware or even stock HTC firmware to de-brand your Hero are needed in order for many of us here to upgrade to the rumoured minor update and major update coming soon.
Having a handset from the telco on contract and then having to wait for weeks or even forever to get a bug fixed / performance enhanced firmware update from HTC is not something I want to have to suffer.
As soon as HTC release updated firmware, I will want to know how to load it via my Mac running OS X (preferred) or booted into my Windows partition (not preferred).
All without drama and with little risk of toasting my Hero.
Its not too much to ask surely
joemax said:
No doubt some of the skills needed to load custom firmware or even stock HTC firmware to de-brand your Hero are needed in order for many of us here to upgrade to the rumoured minor update and major update coming soon.
Having a handset from the telco on contract and then having to wait for weeks or even forever to get a bug fixed / performance enhanced firmware update from HTC is not something I want to have to suffer.
As soon as HTC release updated firmware, I will want to know how to load it via my Mac running OS X (preferred) or booted into my Windows partition (not preferred).
All without drama and with little risk of toasting my Hero.
Its not too much to ask surely
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From what I can tell, it is pretty straight forward, just like the first time you flash a phone, a bit never racking, and a bit foreign. A co-worker of mine has assured me it is as easy as a WinMo phone.
Nice to be easy as a WiMo phone... but I've had Nokia for years.
Easy to de-brand.
Use Nemesis.
Change Product Code to one like a generic EU code.
Go back to Nokia Software Update.
Download new manufacturer direct firmware... Orange as far as I know, never approved new firmware while I used an N95, N82, N85.
Android de-branding seems to involve a complex trip to a command line editor, a download of firmware that you don't really know where it came from and a large dose of prayer and crossed fingers and toes...
I guess I will wait until someone posts how to load the upcoming updated firmware from HTC so I will end up with a more reliable, stable and faster performing handset... like the one I thought I'd signed up for.
joemax said:
Nice to be easy as a WiMo phone... but I've had Nokia for years.
Easy to de-brand.
Use Nemesis.
Change Product Code to one like a generic EU code.
Go back to Nokia Software Update.
Download new manufacturer direct firmware... Orange as far as I know, never approved new firmware while I used an N95, N82, N85.
Android de-branding seems to involve a complex trip to a command line editor, a download of firmware that you don't really know where it came from and a large dose of prayer and crossed fingers and toes...
I guess I will wait until someone posts how to load the upcoming updated firmware from HTC so I will end up with a more reliable, stable and faster performing handset... like the one I thought I'd signed up for.
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I am getting my Hero sometime mid-september... I will post up a walk through when I get some personal experience.
Sweet
That sounds like a plan...
Sykow said:
No offense, but please get more into adb and all the tools needed for reflashing.
Making things idiot proof is useless in my opinion. If you have no idea how to use adb, why upgrade anyway? Chances are you won't understand most custom upgrades/tweaks anyway..
All releases by HTC will be idiot proof, no doubt about it, but installing a custom rom takes skill, knowledge and patience.
In general, an idiot posseses none of the above.
Second, there are no custom roms available for the Hero.
If you want to install custom roms in the future, take some time to understand things. Spoonfeeding this info won't learn you anything.
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A touch patronising.
I Flash Roms all the time on my Blackstone, and manage to use the custom upgrades/tweeks....
Android is a new OS, and has a new set of terms and abreviations etc, As the OP says, there seems to be little out there to explain things
When there are pages and pages of wikis for the Hero/Android then yes, I can understand being frustrated about noobie questions, but until there IS threads/stickies/Wikis out there then I'm afraid there will be questions put forward like this.
Correct. But those things need time. How long has the Hero been out now? Couple of weeks? C'mon..
And a person doesn't learn by asking questions. At least, not here. There are TONS of threads around. All the things you need are in there. It's just a matter of looking, taking the time to actually learn and read. If you still don't get it after the proper research, ask questions. Give the exact problem so we can tailor the reponse to it.
I flashed my old Wizard so many times.. Then I got on to the iPhone 2G, making it work in The Netherlands. I took the time to read all the reports, stickies and the necessary info to make it work. With some motivation and some common sense every person can do this.
I'm completely new to Android and I managed to root, update and tweak my Hero within 1 hour.
I just have a problem with these guys coming here, "demanding" a guide for idiots, making no effort at all to understand the complexity of it all.
This device hasn't even been out for a month! Chill out! When the stuff is ready, it will come.
Hmmmmm
Sykow said:
Correct. But those things need time. How long has the Hero been out now? Couple of weeks? C'mon..
And a person doesn't learn by asking questions. At least, not here. There are TONS of threads around. All the things you need are in there. It's just a matter of looking, taking the time to actually learn and read. If you still don't get it after the proper research, ask questions. Give the exact problem so we can tailor the reponse to it.
I flashed my old Wizard so many times.. Then I got on to the iPhone 2G, making it work in The Netherlands. I took the time to read all the reports, stickies and the necessary info to make it work. With some motivation and some common sense every person can do this.
I'm completely new to Android and I managed to root, update and tweak my Hero within 1 hour.
I just have a problem with these guys coming here, "demanding" a guide for idiots, making no effort at all to understand the complexity of it all.
This device hasn't even been out for a month! Chill out! When the stuff is ready, it will come.
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Sykow - thanks for your comments, please dont call us "demanding idiots !" Like you I and many others are new to Android and yes its a huge learning curve, I have rooted my HERO and Tweaked it but merely wanted advice on some of the explanation given as i did not think it was that clear !!!
I have programmed, tweaked and installed numerous roms on blackberry and nokia previously and wanted advice on Android - you were not born with the knowledge you had to learn it....
Anyway after a polite request at least someone was polite enough to assist and it is sorted - bring on the cooked roms.
I have to agree with Sykow here to a degree. Rooting, flashing and backing up isn't for the weak of heart, and one wrong move could mean that the same newbie comes back to this forum crying about a bricked phone and bad instructions, and that would just distract people from the real point of this sub-forum, i.e. actual ROM hacking, stuff like what Haykuro is doing in the background.
Here's a starting point that worked for me:
Rooting the Hero: http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/08/how-to-gain-root-access-on-your-htc-hero/
After that, if you're looking at replacing built-in apps and cooking your own ROMs, you're better off looking in the Dream Android Development sub-forum where it all started. If you're having problems looking for technical pointers in those sub-forums and instead finding that most questions are about how-do-i root/flash/etc, you'll start to understand where Sykow is coming from
Me, I don't think you're an idiot. I just think it'd help to spend your time with the Android SDK as well as searching the other Android Dev sub-forums in XDA for what you're looking for. If you're confident enough after that to come up with a How-To of your own for the benefit of newbies, feel free to go ahead, but from what I have seen from time to time, it can be a thankless job when newbies fail to follow the instructions to a T, brick their devices then come back crying or *****ing, and expect someone to fix it for them.
I found the HTC Dream wiki section on rooting/hacking etc quite informative:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_overview_and_useful_information
I managed to work out how to make a backup last night, using files from Paulatmodoco's rooting guide:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/291397/12-08-1-4-modaco-hero-patch-a2sd-root-busybox-much-more/
Simply follow his instructions up to stage 5. Then you will be in the recovery image menu and you can select to make a nandroid backup.
If I have some time later, I'll write up a dummys guide to making a nandroid backup, which is one of the most important steps I reckon And rooting using paul's system is then very, very easy. as is flashing a new ROM.
I must also agree with Sykow. I only recently got my Hero and had no knowledge of rooting. I'm sure a step by step guide would be lovely but actually it is possible and it pays to read up about it yourself.
I knew the Android SDK was needed, so I downloaded and installed that as per Android website, read about what adb and fastboot did. The files and commands were easy to source from here. About and hours reading and a complete Android noob was rooted and away. I do feel that some folk maybe can't be bothered with the reading part, but think - if something goes wrong in the process, you aren't going to know why or how to fix it.
My sentiments exactly.
Hi Guys,
Sorry for the stupid question, but I've updated to the latest HTC release and am aware that I can't root anymore. (Have not done it before anyway).
But does this mean that I can't download any Roms unless they're officially released by HTC, or that I can download other custom Roms, but just can't get root access to my phone, or something else?
Once again, sorry for the dumb question - but I just want to know what my limitations are now that I've updated.
Cheers
Adza
until the new HBoot is hacked, you cannot root and/or use any other ROMs than provided by HTC themselves. If you intended to do it, you should have done it before updating Otherwise, just wait a bit until the devs figure out a way around it.
Hi Waebi,
Thanks for your reply. And I understand now - cheers.
I wasn't planning on Rooting, until I found that the official HTC release has screwed me over with no Bluetooth voice dialing. I've been hanging out for that with Froyo that I'm considering ditching this phone now and going to buy something else that has it included.
Cheers
Adza
well yes, it's always sad to see a feature one wants isnt available :/
But I thought they had made quite a fuss about the voice dialing thingy and actually said it was included? Are you sure you didn't just not "find" it?
Hi Waebi,
There appear to be others who can't find it on the HTC Desire either.
Other phone releases seem to have it, as well as the custom Roms.
I naturally assumed that HTC's official release would also include it but it would appear as though they have deliberately removed it for some reason.
I have been thinking of a side project i can start and since i recently acquired a wave and have a SGS myself it seems like a fun project. I found out that it has a hummingbird processor and may not be much difference from a Galaxy S in terms for hardware. Right now I'm just collecting as much information as i can about the device and what similarities the Wave has to a Samsung Galaxy S i9000.
So throw me what you got, its not an easy task and will need help, i have started another thread to see if i can get some Devs interested in this project and are willing to help in the android section
The idea is to port the Galaxy S i9000 firmware to the Wave that way you still have the samsung feel and since its made for the hummingbird processor. We will first need to see if we can get access to hardware and use that to inject code etc. This is in the research stage as of now.
THIS IS JUST A START AND MAY DIE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGINS. SO DON'T COMPLAIN WHY IT WAS STOPPED. I AM DOING THIS ONLY TO SEE IF I CAN DO IT AND NOTHING MORE.
If only i know C++ language, ican help you but i don't know. I'll follow and wait your results.
Keep going my friend. If you success (i hope) i will pay you to get the firmware!
thanx for starting this. i have visited forums where people are trying to port android on wave. And there biggest problem is bootloader. they cant dissemble it, just want to provide you this info. i will provide more info as soon as i get on any forums. This is the only way i can help, as i am only a application developer.
adfree is working on bootloader. Please, contact him.
@ jebise101
But you read this first?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899535
I9000 stuff is available... but remember Baseband is Infineon... not Qualcomm...
Aplication Processor is identical...
Maybe more luck with Galaxy K M130K Firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12083886&postcount=7
But I can't find Firmware for M130K
Go find Firmware from M130K with BootFiles.
it says original firmware for M130K but not sure
pspmaster. tistory. com/48
looks like it is the firmware you wanted adfree
here is the link righ here easier http://pspmaster.tistory.com/48
use google chrome with this page as it is in korean
Well, if you google M130K-KIES, you can get the firmware via 4share, but the file it got was without the boot.bin :-(. But I'm not sure about the firmware from pspmaster.
whats with this project ?
http://www.androidport.net/
pawlakpl this site androidport.net never end this project becouse no money.
Here is an app someone created i will try it when i get home to see if if i can get it to download the Korean SGS firmware (use to use it all the time back when i had the O2, if anyohne wants to give it a shot feel free
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...41/samsung-mobile-firmware-queries-downloads/
cinimini said:
pawlakpl this site androidport.net never end this project becouse no money.
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But XDA can end a project ?
I've downloaded M130K-HOME-REV04-EA29.tar
Thanx to hsingh56 and mylove90.
As I've searched several hours via Google with no success...
Now I have also Bootloader files from M130K... but looks totally different as I thought...
Anyway... I9000 and M130K have similar folders/files...
factoryfs.rfs.img
Rename into *.img like above. And extract with WinImage for instance...
Then use open eyes.
1.
Few Images are QMG... for PowerOFF QMG Animation...
2.
*.so files
3.
lib\hw
...s5pc110.so
But anyway. As long NOBODY try with JTAG (RIFF BOX) + Wave S8500 + knowledge different combinations. If Boot area is secured?
We will NEVER see Android on Wave...
Best Regards
So the wuestion is....
Whos have JTAG+S8500+Knowledge+Free time to help the bootloader creation?
Yes,boot and sbl is secured(e-fused)
cinimini said:
pawlakpl this site androidport.net never end this project becouse no money.
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Euhmm. If you guys actually READ The site it shows we are working. Only we PROBALY need IDA. But we're in touch with Dopi from IDA. if things work out we will have the bootloader disassembled within 2 weeks and we can start testing the modified FW from the Galaxy S
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Euhmm. If you guys actually READ The site it shows we are working. Only we PROBALY need IDA. But we're in touch with Dopi from IDA. if things work out we will have the bootloader disassembled within 2 weeks and we can start testing the modified FW from the Galaxy S
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Great news! Keep up the good work.
ShadowAS1 said:
Euhmm. If you guys actually READ The site it shows we are working. Only we PROBALY need IDA. But we're in touch with Dopi from IDA. if things work out we will have the bootloader disassembled within 2 weeks and we can start testing the modified FW from the Galaxy S
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Please, STOP. I won't comment on that nonsense. Let me just say good riddance to you and come back with the results. We already had enough talking and it's time for you to show whether you can distinguish ARMv4, ARMv7, decrypted, encrypted executables and any basics of code signing.
great initiative...keep it up the work and never give up...
Hi everyone - just wondered if everyone in the neglected zones (i.e. everywhere Acer is refusing to release ICS for the A100) could re-double the pressure on their local Acer support to see if they will release ICS for "the common man"
I put in a request and this is what I got back (so helpful - not):
Response Via Email(Sunil Kumar BVL) - 19/07/2012 12.33 PM
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Acer UK.
We apologize for the delay in responding to your e-mail.
We understand your concern and regret the inconvenience caused to you.
There has been no further updates to when there will be further ICS FOTA updates, for A100 tablet.
For further assistance please do not hesitate to e-mail or contact us on 0871 760 1000 (UK), 0818 202 210 (Eire).
Regards,
Sunil Kumar BVL
Agent ID 1313
Acer UK Online Technical Support Team.So helpful, so informative, so understanding.
They really really want people to buy an alternative as soon as possible don't they?
Nexus 7, despite lack of MicroSD and HDMI, looks like the only answer dammit!
Commsman said:
Hi everyone - just wondered if everyone in the neglected zones (i.e. everywhere Acer is refusing to release ICS for the A100) could re-double the pressure on their local Acer support to see if they will release ICS for "the common man"
I put in a request and this is what I got back (so helpful - not):
Response Via Email(Sunil Kumar BVL) - 19/07/2012 12.33 PM
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Acer UK.
We apologize for the delay in responding to your e-mail.
We understand your concern and regret the inconvenience caused to you.
There has been no further updates to when there will be further ICS FOTA updates, for A100 tablet.
For further assistance please do not hesitate to e-mail or contact us on 0871 760 1000 (UK), 0818 202 210 (Eire).
Regards,
Sunil Kumar BVL
Agent ID 1313
Acer UK Online Technical Support Team.So helpful, so informative, so understanding.
They really really want people to buy an alternative as soon as possible don't they?
Nexus 7, despite lack of MicroSD and HDMI, looks like the only answer dammit!
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install leaked ics
root it
unlock bootloader
install CWM
install jellybean for christs sake.
if you need a repair just format every single partition so the service center can't tell if your tablet got rooted and your warrentee will sti9ll be there
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install leaked ics
root it
unlock bootloader
install CWM
install jellybean for christs sake.
if you need a repair just format every single partition so the service center can't tell if your tablet got rooted and your warrentee will sti9ll be there
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Or just install the official ics rom that zeronull released though the stock recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611696
Or install one of the hc versions that are known to ota to ics. The only thing stopping you from ota'ing to ics is the version of hc you are currently on.
-DarkKnight- said:
install leaked ics
root it
unlock bootloader
install CWM
install jellybean for christs sake.
if you need a repair just format every single partition so the service center can't tell if your tablet got rooted and your warrentee will sti9ll be there
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I could not work out the process for installing the leaked ICS - it seemed as if a small pre-OTA download was required before the main ICS update could be installed. That is why I was rather hoping to just get stock ICS (for christs sake) - and of course I would then also be able to buy and watch Play store films.
I am joining a forum well down the track and looking over zillions of past posts to find the correct way to root and update the rom on this thing is tricky. I am not a complete noob having rooted and custom rom'ed my past 4 Android devices - phones and tablets, but all of them have had little details which if you got wrong could end up bricking them. Not keen to do that thanks.
Also, I guess I just get a bit peeved at how we get everything months late here in the UK - we are not exactly a techno backwater.
And I do think I am right to be peeved at the pathetic effort from Acer UK support (oxymoron)
Anyway - I finally got ICs last Thursday (26th July 2012). Now I am super peeved because it has screwed up Adobe Flash (useful here in the UK to watch BBC iPlayer and other BBC news videos. Looks like the root and custom ROM option is going to be the way to go after all.
Commsman said:
I could not work out the process for installing the leaked ICS - it seemed as if a small pre-OTA download was required before the main ICS update could be installed. That is why I was rather hoping to just get stock ICS (for christs sake) - and of course I would then also be able to buy and watch Play store films.
I am joining a forum well down the track and looking over zillions of past posts to find the correct way to root and update the rom on this thing is tricky. I am not a complete noob having rooted and custom rom'ed my past 4 Android devices - phones and tablets, but all of them have had little details which if you got wrong could end up bricking them. Not keen to do that thanks.
Also, I guess I just get a bit peeved at how we get everything months late here in the UK - we are not exactly a techno backwater.
And I do think I am right to be peeved at the pathetic effort from Acer UK support (oxymoron)
Anyway - I finally got ICs last Thursday (26th July 2012). Now I am super peeved because it has screwed up Adobe Flash (useful here in the UK to watch BBC iPlayer and other BBC news videos. Looks like the root and custom ROM option is going to be the way to go after all.
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If you're looking for help on rooting unlocking and flashing etc check the guide in my sig, it in turn has links for threads pertaining to each process. Really the only thing to do is READ. I'm not singling you out, but a lot skip over stuff and that's when mistakes happen.
The process is all scripted now. Simple as (once adb is up)
Run root script
Run boot loader unlock script
Delete or rename /system/etc/install-recovery.sh
Install recovery
Boot into recovery, backup, flash as normal.
Overly simplified rundown, but accurate. All of my ROMs run checks for device ID but not all do, so I would suggest for safety to look only here for ROMs. That guide also links to some for the a100.
If you have questions or concerns ask before guessing and you'll do fine. That's if you choose to go this route, of course.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
Thanks everyone for your advice and help.
I am now very happy with Flex Reaper. Everything backed up using nandroid on CWM.
Everything runs sweetly and with the exception of Polaris Office (a shame - it looks as if it is better than QuickOffice). I looked to see if changing the build.prop model declaration would fix it (there are reports of this working for the A500) but all A100 ROM versions seem to state the model as simply being A100 and I am not keen on tinkering unless I know others have checked out the results in advance.
If anyone has a solution for this I would be interested.
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Thanks everyone for your advice and help.
I am now very happy with Flex Reaper. Everything backed up using nandroid on CWM.
Everything runs sweetly and with the exception of Polaris Office (a shame - it looks as if it is better than QuickOffice). I looked to see if changing the build.prop model declaration would fix it (there are reports of this working for the A500) but all A100 ROM versions seem to state the model as simply being A100 and I am not keen on tinkering unless I know others have checked out the results in advance.
If anyone has a solution for this I would be interested.
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Take a look at the build.prop linuxsociety is working on, it has the A500 model change as well as plenty of tweaks for performance. I haven't used it myself as I'm running my own variants of jellytime and/or CM10, but for ICS it will do perfectly. He's working on a jellybean version as well.
After I updated my phone to The latest android 10 I was hoping I could get access to the new Game driver Preferences but no! It is not there!! Help me please!
there are other threads like this. Samsung removed it. use the old backup instead.
and your subject line doesn't help anyone.
keep that in mind next time, nobody's going to help with a subject line A10update