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When I run skyfire and I'm and my text open, I start having to close stuff in order for the other to run. Anyway I can run the programs in a temp swap type environment on my microsd card?
I'm pretty sure you can't - maybe you can with a 3rd party app, not sure - certainly not by default.
Unfortunately 64Mb RAM is a bit low for all the new apps that are coming out these days, I had Iris Browser which was pretty unusable because of all the RAM it used when loading large pages. Shame, but that's what you get from a 3 year old device I guess!
Yep not possible has been talked about over in Dev, the best you could do to say claim more RAM is by decreasing the PagePool, this all depends what ROM you are using to how much you want to PagePool....
Kavana\Ricky can drop to about 4.5MB PagePool so aprx 27MB free RAM.
All info found in RoseROM Remade thread bear in mind what you gain in RAM you loose in speed.
Trial and error, good luck
No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device
Yeh its def a significant difference. I also overclock to 264 when running games, fully stable.
ojideagu said:
No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.
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ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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jdshifflett said:
that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device
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This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
roloracer said:
This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.
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So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.
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I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.
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I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.
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Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back
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Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back
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No rush, I'm getting ready to take the wife to the movies, so I won't be on much.
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Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.
ojideagu said:
Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.
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Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.
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Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.
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Well yeh. Now I have an SD card most of my stuff is on that so
dont have too much hassle replacing everything.
I will try some. Ive got the official rom.
Hi,
I wonder where is the truth about moving apps to SD card. I have HTC Desire which has really low space for apps. I used to use Darktremor A2SD script with CM7 but according to some users this can really slow down my phone while opening apps when I have slow SD card (I have 4class Kingston) and it probably does, becuase I experienced this issue very often. It was horrible and I decided to use different partition table. Now I have dalvik cache on internal storage.
Today I read that the more space I have on my internal storage, the faster the device is. The question is: Is this true? And is true that apps moved to SD (not using A2SD script) are slower?
On a very slow (cheap class 2) it can be true.
I have class 6 and not noticed slowdowns.
Theoretically - the internal NAND is faster than the SD Card, but if the ROM is set up correctly, it is unnoticeable.
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On a very slow (cheap class 2) it can be true.
I have class 6 and not noticed slowdowns.
Theoretically - the internal NAND is faster than the SD Card, but if the ROM is set up correctly, it is unnoticeable.
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So where is the problem? When I used A2SD script I experienct heavy lags while opening apps (Handcent, gallery, etc.) sometimes 2-5 seconds. It was really bothering. Full wipe helped everytime but after two days lags were back.
Now I am trying have dalvik on internal to see how it behaves.
I believe that class4 is not so slow and I also read that Kingston cards are sometimes much faster in tests, sometimes similar to other class6 SDs.
AFAIK, it depends on the ROM, too. For example I had no lags with AOSP ROMs, just Sense ones.
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AFAIK, it depends on the ROM, too. For example I had no lags with AOSP ROMs, just Sense ones.
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Ok. And do you think that the more free space on internal I have the more speed I can get while using the apps?
devcager said:
Ok. And do you think that the more free space on internal I have the more speed I can get while using the apps?
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You might. Again i Think it is affected by many factors. For instance, when I was using Gingervillain 2.7 the phone was fast even with 20 MB left on internal - then I moved internal & stuff to the SD and had around 96 MB free - but did not notice that it was running faster.
Try using s2e app from market, I'm using that and it works very well
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Hi i found an app called auto killer memory which ive been running for a while. this app has worked wonders for my wilderbeast, its on fire. so ive been tampering alot with things but this seems to have stabalised my phone loads. presets i set to lost, enabled advance mode,apply at boot,ticked all system tweaks and of course when promted enabled super user. my phone is now running sweet and battery has improved too. i dont know if this makes any sense but i have noticed a difference. whoop whoop. am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
Ok I've ammended my settings within this app after doing some research And in memory values I'm now running at 6/10/16/100/120/160 to keep my phone running snappppppy. To explain the values in brief...... if free memory goes below 160mb my phone starts to kill empty apps etc etc as free memory goes below next value the phone starts to kill corresponding apps. Kind of makes sense to me now. Ok I know my settings makes the phone kill more frequently but its damn snappy now,and it can lower the oom settings by long pressing the app in processes section you wish to lower and choosing lower oom. Lowering the oom basically gives the app less chance of being killed.
Personally I haven't had a low memory situation since I rooted and installed cm7, the app your talking about I have installed after reading one of your other posts about it, I presume that it would work the same way as juwes after setting the low memory values, I don't use those settings with it though as I have juwes script installed, the other tweaks seem fine but again I think I had some of them covered from editing my build.prop (still have work to do on that though) and a few other little things, I can't knock this app though as it does seem to have made my battery last a bit longer since installing yesterday, I'd personally rather change the settings myself than have yet another app doing it for me but until I figure which setting seems to be helping my battery out I'll keep it installed.
A couple of other apps which might help you keep it smooth,
Autostarts- I swear by this app its one of my best buys from the market, why use a task killer when you can just stop the app starting in the first place??
Fast reboot pro- after time apps hold memory which they don't really need, hit this and it'll quickly reboot everything (unless you tell it to leave something alone) freeing up spare ram.
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Cheers for info,really happy with this app at the moment.by the sounds of things its doing similar job to other script mods,which I can't get working cos of s - off issue. Posted this for s on users benefit. Hope it helps others.
Edit my settings. Read 1st post.
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The only problems I see with having higher settings are if it closes something you use regular it'll be slower to open that app, I'd rather keep them set low and have apps open quickly.
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Scratch0805 said:
The only problems I see with having higher settings are if it closes something you use regular it'll be slower to open that app, I'd rather keep them set low and have apps open quickly.
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I agree but this app lets you temporary lower the oom level for apps,so I just lower oom on most important. Long click on process or service and to lower.
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Does it?..........I didn't spot that nice find!!
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Yep,long click app in service or process then choose to lower oom.it resets if you reboot so get your settings desired then leave by pressing home button.
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whats up with these settings for the pages? what do these settings change?
atm i have these settings:
2560
4096
25600
30720
40960
gozzaa said:
whats up with these settings for the pages? what do these settings change?
atm i have these settings:
2560
4096
25600
30720
40960
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Change the view from pages to mb and these are the values when it will start killing processes etc. Ie. When your memory gets to the amount your phone starts freeing up starting with the highest setting (empty apps)
Its all explained above,just that you have the pages view instead of mbs.
Quote " its healthy to have enemies, it means you've stood up for something you believe in "
ahh the pagesettings are the same as the MB ones?
i thought its two different things
thanks for the explanation!
btw. do you still use the same settings?
Yes to this day I still use this app even though I'm now s-off with the settings I posted,I will just double check and ammend if needed on 1st post.
" once its gone,its GONE."
slymobi said:
am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
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I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
zephyri-xr said:
I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
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i tried supercharger and juuwes but had issues which i think were specific to me but one of the issues was bootlooping from supercharger as well as other things. im not saying one is better than the other but as you and myself had issues with one of the mods then its an alternative for others to use. i prefer this as you get to control the settings and mods yourself from the app. also this is available for s-on whilst the others i believe need s-off.
zephyri-xr said:
I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
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I got a boot loop from supercharger. I had to wipe my phone and start again from an RUU as all my previous backups became corrupted. Nightmare. TBH in the few days that it did work, i saw/felt no difference.
Using CM_7.1.0.1 probably wouldnt advise to use the supercharge, CM_7 minfree values are set to a pretty good level to keep things in order i think
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Hi i found an app called auto killer memory which ive been running for a while. this app has worked wonders for my wilderbeast, its on fire. so ive been tampering alot with things but this seems to have stabalised my phone loads. presets i set to lost, enabled advance mode,apply at boot,ticked all system tweaks and of course when promted enabled super user. my phone is now running sweet and battery has improved too. i dont know if this makes any sense but i have noticed a difference. whoop whoop. am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
Ok I've ammended my settings within this app after doing some research And in memory values I'm now running at 6/10/16/100/120/160 to keep my phone running snappppppy. To explain the values in brief...... if free memory goes below 160mb my phone starts to kill empty apps etc etc as free memory goes below next value the phone starts to kill corresponding apps. Kind of makes sense to me now. Ok I know my settings makes the phone kill more frequently but its damn snappy now,and it can lower the oom settings by long pressing the app in processes section you wish to lower and choosing lower oom. Lowering the oom basically gives the app less chance of being killed.
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I have tried supercharge script and does make phone smooth. Also Ive use ram manager new app and that too made phone smooth. But this app (Pro) is so far great. I tried out your settings for now to see if it suits me and had the app for an hour and the phone is very snappy and smooth (which is most important to me). I hope there is a slight battery improvement that many have said on the net but will test more and will leave feed back. A big thx m8!
no probs mate, like i said i have tried the lot and this one for me is really good and you get to be the controller lol.the only drawback i have noticed is that it takes a little longer for the phone to boot after a reboot but !!!!! im ok with that.
LMFAO looks like I didn't pay enough attention... I've used a lot of tweaks already to make my Willy faster, more snappy and stable but to be honest nothing gave it such a boost like that
BTW: are you still using the settings of the op?
Holy crap, I've read that really often here and elsewhere but it's the first it applies to myself: feels like a new phone
eventcom said:
LMFAO looks like I didn't pay enough attention... I've used a lot of tweaks already to make my Willy faster, more snappy and stable but to be honest nothing gave it such a boost like that
BTW: are you still using the settings of the op?
Holy crap, I've read that really often here and elsewhere but it's the first it applies to myself: feels like a new phone
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I use aggressive setting mostly, all advanced tweaks except sdcard boost one as this bumps read ahead up to 2048, just my preference you might prefer 2048.
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slymobi said:
I use aggressive setting mostly, all advanced tweaks except sdcard boost one as this bumps read ahead up to 2048, just my preference you might prefer 2048
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I see. I just have to sort things out now. Regarding the SD card read - I have it already done by sdbooster (@2048) - I'm at a point where I should make a documentation to stay on track and to avoid double tweaks lol.
I'm also very interested into scratch's build.prop lol (guess that would help to drop even more tweaks). Thx again - I've not forgotten about your tip re. AMO - just shifted it too far lol.
I flashed the final evolved rom to my evo "r3 charged final"
I have noticed that with all the roms I flashed since 2.3 came out that i have very little free memory the previous rom I had about 130 megs but now I'm running 80 -100 and that is with a task killer set on 1 min kill intervals.
I read about low ram and something called HSPL but i have no idea what it is or how I can flash it
can any one help
also on the rom install i wiped the phone and even formatted the sd card so i know the install was clean ( it also runs really good until the memory gets below 70megs )
thanks for your help
Had the same problem, you need to partition your SD card and install apps 2 SD., I use one called dta2sd( dark tremors Apps2sd. Before using I used to get low memory messages all the time...
Give it a try it helped me out..
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is this for you to move your apps to or is this to use like ram it appears that my phone is running low on ram for the running processes but not room for storage ( I moved almost all my apps to the sd card already )
thanks for your quick reply above
Think its for more memory space for apps, but it must create more system memory as well, because before I used it I had moved all my apps to SD, but I was still running low on memory. Since Ive used apps2sd ive had no more memory shortages
Hope you like that Rom I've used it my self and its a good one.
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I just partitioned my card but it did not affect my free available memory but i now have tons of storage space on my phone.
thank you for the advice though i really like having all the apps on a partition freeing up space in the phone any way ( i use alot of apps )
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Think its for more memory space for apps, but it must create more system memory as well, because before I used it I had moved all my apps to SD, but I was still running low on memory. Since Ive used apps2sd ive had no more memory shortages
Hope you like that Rom I've used it my self and its a good one.
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sounds like you don't quite understand the difference between ROM/storage space and RAM/memory.
A lot of people use memory and storage interchangeably but that is not accurate.
The OP is having a problem with low memory/RAM meaning that the OS and running programs are utilizing too much RAM, IE too many apps or processes are running or there is a memory hole/leak somewhere. He is not having a problem with storage space or room to install additional applications or store additional data.
you can use the V6 supercharger or Car-o-dope tweaks (i think thats what it is called) they will increase your RAM
If you get the RC4 release of the V6 (its still stable but not on the main page) you should do option 7 and 20. Be sure to nandroid before.
V6 Main page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
V6 Beta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
Sorry I couldn't help more...
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Thanks...don't some ROM's use less memory? I'm running an AOSP ROM and it seems quicker than the Sense ROMs.
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Thanks...don't some ROM's use less memory? I'm running an AOSP ROM and it seems quicker than the Sense ROMs.
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Aosp is faster then sense ALWAYS. And some roms do use more memory then others
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Thanks for the heads up on the RC4 release of the V6 I put it in and it did help my memory on this rom . So after partitioning and running the script I just have one strange question.
Does this rom have a built in power battery saver? i am not running any sort of battery saver, I am running a task killer still but only to see free ram since the script does the task killing now. I notice my wifi shuts off when the phone sleeps and that I have sleep mode that enables at about 11pm. Is there a way to kill this since I do most of my computer geek stuff late at night.
I have looked all through my apps and i have nothing installed that i believe could be doing the power conservation stuff
thanks
Okay, I have Link2Sd installed on my device, I have almost one gigabyte of apps in it. I was just wondering, that can it be the problem, cause my Arc S' performance has became pretty awkward(gaming performance is ok, but scrolling it the menus and so on). Anyone else having Link2Sd and having the same problem? I really wouldn't like to uninstall this app, because it does wonders!
What class is your SD card?
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Okay, I have Link2Sd installed on my device, I have almost one gigabyte of apps in it. I was just wondering, that can it be the problem, cause my Arc S' performance has became pretty awkward(gaming performance is ok, but scrolling it the menus and so on). Anyone else having Link2Sd and having the same problem? I really wouldn't like to uninstall this app, because it does wonders!
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No it does not affect performance.
Bear in mind that apps that are moved to SD (whether it is with Android's native method or Link2SD) do not suffer from performance decrease depending on the class of your SD. Apps do not run from the apk, it's not like Windows that apps run from the corresponding exe file.
Yeah, good point. Of course the apps theirselves are installed in the internal memory. Didn't come in my mind Looks like I have to find another causeto my problem
Use a file cleaner to clean the cache/ history
Try using links2sd to clean the dalvic cache.
Hope this helps
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Link2SD Plus version
I am using the latest version of Link2SD plus, which basically allows linking of all application files (apk, dex, lib, cache and data) to the second partition (ext2/3). Obviously this is a huge space saving benefit with the extremely limited internal memory of the Xperia Arc S.
Unfortunately, apps like Chrome, Skype and TuneIn radio (which require around 100MB each) have serious performance issues in this case; they become completely unresponsive and impossible to use.
I've experimented only moving certain types of the application files and noticed that this is most possibly caused by the cache files being linked to the sd card. By un-linking the cache files the apps become usable once again, but that takes quite a lot of space obviously. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is there another solution?
I use link2sd on my arc s and i installed over 20 apps, it's fast.
I use link2sd on my arc s and i installed over 20 apps, it's fast.
I, too, must be another problem
Hello @ArmorD,
Link2SD performance relies on your external storage mediums read and write speeds; in this case your MicroSD cards speeds.
The MicroSD card which came with Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc is just a slow Class 4 card, with terrible read and write speeds.
To get better performance you have to replace the MicroSD card with something a bit faster; any class 10 card would do the job. I would recommend Samsung, Kingston or Sandisk MicroSD cards, they're all great.
Keelah se'lai,
GethPrime
Get a faster card
Get a faster sd card, preferrably class 10, they are cheap, been using link2sd forever n even now with kitkat, still fast
I have an 80mbps micro in my axiom and I am running link2sd flawlessly best buy has sales all the time I picked one up for like thirty bucks worth the speed.
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