Multitasking should be nice and easy, on WP7 it isn't. I don't know whose idea it was to make the screenshots so big, it's a waste of space. I think they should've done multitasking the way they do tabs in IE9.
I also noticed that you can only swipe one app at a time in the multitasking view, so if you want the 5th app, you have to swipe 5 times. I find that very inefficient which is not the goal of multitasking. It wastes time...
Where is the little red x in the top right hand corner to close apps in multitasking view. Instead you have to swipe over to the app, open it hit back and then hold back to get back into multitasking view. What a waste of time...
Anyone else think this multitasking blows?
::missing the days of WM6 task manager::
Going to install Mango today. I'll report my impressions then Hope that it's still rocking
blindpet said:
Multitasking should be nice and easy, or WP7 it isn't. I don't know whose idea it was to make the screenshots so big, it's a waste of space. I think they should've done multitasking the way they do tabs in IE9.
I also noticed that you can only swipe one app at a time in the multitasking view, so if you want the 5th app, you have to swipe 5 times. I find that very inefficient which is not the goal of multitasking. It wastes time...
Where is the little red x in the top right hand corner to close apps in multitasking view. Instead you have to swipe over to the app, open it hit back and then hold back to get back into multitasking view. What a waste of time...
Anyone else think this multitasking blows?
::missing the days of WM6 task manager::
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Yeah, the swipe thing kinda sucks. You don't need to close no apps though. Just keep in mind how the so called multitasking works. There is actually NOTHING running in the background. Apps you leave remain in a frozen state until you revive them (or not).
this means that a ringer app must like in w7.0 run and the akku power goes low over night?
ahlMAR said:
this means that a ringer app must like in w7.0 run and the akku power goes low over night?
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ahlMAR said:
this means that a ringer app must like in w7.0 run and the akku power goes low over night?
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If you are referring to an alarm app, in Mango it would schedule a task / background agent that will be invoked when the necessary time comes. It won't have to run in the background and use any battery.
dkp1977 said:
Yeah, the swipe thing kinda sucks. You don't need to close no apps though. Just keep in mind how the so called multitasking works. There is actually NOTHING running in the background. Apps you leave remain in a frozen state until you revive them (or not).
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Currently.
That's what's changing. It is real multitasking in mango but the apps need to be built to utilise it (which they're not at the moment, because we've only just started to build for it).
Whoops.
Casey
i keep pressing the start button for multitasking lol
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That's what's changing. It is real multitasking in mango but the apps need to be built to utilise it (which they're not at the moment, because we've only just started to build for it).
Casey
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No its not. There is support for background tasks (periodic or scheduled) which have limitations on how often they can run and their CPU usage. There is also some special support for background file transfers and audio, not sure what else.
Your apps will definitely not continue to run in the background.
As someone said above, there is no true background multitasking. Your apps freeze in the background, and they now have the ability to instantly resume (rather than having to restart completely or take a few seconds to resume) when re-programmed to do so.
There are also special tasks that applications can take advantage of, but it is very restricted, and then you also have your background tasks, which is kinda like "services" on a Windows PC. The background tasks sit in the background and can do certain things, and that can be managed from the settings menu, but they too are still rather limited.
Holding "back" on your phone is just a list of recent applications, it's not something that shows you what is running in the background (because nothing is). Because of that, there is no need for a close button since there is nothing to close really.
I agree the way they do it in IE is more elegant. I also would like the ability to swipe away something. I know that since most of the time something isn't actually running, there is no need, but since it only keeps the last few tasks, I could then potentially keep something open all day by swiping away other cards first.
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No its not. There is support for background tasks (periodic or scheduled) which have limitations on how often they can run and their CPU usage. There is also some special support for background file transfers and audio, not sure what else.
Your apps will definitely not continue to run in the background.
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Ah ok. Thanks. Must have gotten mixed up between what we can actually do!
I think it would be better if the swipe could make us roll more than one app at a time. Just like in IE; if you want to go down, really down on the page, just swipe up fast.
Oh crap.. dont know how it's called or how to explain in a decent way.
Anyway, I hate having to swipe one app at a time, and I think there is no need to show "Start" in cards.
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I think it would be better if the swipe could make us roll more than one app at a time. Just like in IE; if you want to go down, really down on the page, just swipe up fast.
Oh crap.. dont know how it's called or how to explain in a decent way.
Anyway, I hate having to swipe one app at a time, and I think there is no need to show "Start" in cards.
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I've noticed that if you swipe really gently, you can get it to scroll across multiple tasks. It seems really sensitive, and maybe that' just a bug. Sometimes it'll go one at a time, and sometimes it'll swipe across 2 or 3 apps with just the right amount of pressure.
Has anyone here played with the HP TouchPad yet? They use a card like system for multi-tasking too and it has some good ideas. To close a task, you flick the card upwards off the screen and it's killed. I think something like this would work well for WP7.
Also, I'm with everyone else who doesn't like how you can't scroll smoothly across several tasks. I wanna be able to flick across the list quickly.
mikeeam said:
I think it would be better if the swipe could make us roll more than one app at a time. Just like in IE; if you want to go down, really down on the page, just swipe up fast.
Oh crap.. dont know how it's called or how to explain in a decent way.
Anyway, I hate having to swipe one app at a time, and I think there is no need to show "Start" in cards.
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Also, I'm with everyone else who doesn't like how you can't scroll smoothly across several tasks. I wanna be able to flick across the list quickly.
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I think I found out how to make it scroll multiple tiles consistently. Simply do two swipes very quickly. Once it starts a smooth scroll you can also move back and forth easily without it snapping to each tile.
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I think I found out how to make it scroll multiple tiles consistently. Simply do two swipes very quickly. Once it starts a smooth scroll you can also move back and forth easily without it snapping to each tile.
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Nice one! Now it got better.
So it's not a bug. It's a feature. Still, I dont like the "Start" card. It's useless.
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I think I found out how to make it scroll multiple tiles consistently. Simply do two swipes very quickly. Once it starts a smooth scroll you can also move back and forth easily without it snapping to each tile.
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Hmm yes that seems to work. It should really be like that all the time though.
Thanks for pointing that out, it's still flawed though. You shouldn't have to make two quick swipes to make it go quickly it should depend on the speed of the swipe.
The cards are also too big, I really hope they change it to the IE tab style which has easily has enough space for the 5 previous tasks we were doing.
Other than that Mango is snappier and everything which is great but they still have a ways to go, their multitasking interface is nothing to be proud of.
I would bet that in the final build (or perhaps sooner) the scrolling through the MT menu will change to only require one swipe as does everything else in the OS.
As far as the style, when I first saw it I was thinking the same thing. When you hold the back button, why not have it look like the tabs in IE with a little "x" in the corner?
Considering it freezes apps, there is no need to really kiil any. But, I do agree that it would serve a good purpose if you didn't want something pushed out of memory and wanted to keep a particular app around for awhile.
Regardless, I like the functionality and thinks it works well as intended.
And, let us remember people, THIS IS SPARTA!!! er... I mean, this is beta.
Things will be fixed, rerendered, optimized further, added, deleted, and so on. So, let's not get in too big a tizzy over what things look like right at this moment. I mean, ya gotta admit, for a beta, this thing is damn good.
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I have seen it posted by many users that swiping away apps in the mutitasking list does not kill the app. This is untrue according to Romain Guy. He states that it does indeed kill the app.
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/GfwRYCC42uX
Neal Sanche - On Ice Cream Sandwich does the swipe gesture in the recent tasks list do anything to the tasks? Does it kill them or just simply remove them from the list?
Jan 5, 2012
Romain Guy - +Neal Sanche It kills them
Jan 5, 2012 +5
Simple way to test this:
Reboot your phone, check your battery %, open Facebook and close it. Check your battery % after around an hour.
Now do the same, but this time swipe Facebook out of the task list, the drain will be much less.
Any time I get abnormally high battery drain, every single time i've forgotten to swipe away facebook.
I had always had my suspicions that people were wrong about it not kill apps because in the browser if you swipe it away then the browser starts over fresh when you open it.
My experience with the phone says otherwise. For example, do this:
- create a play/pause control widget with widgetsoid (free on the market)
- open Google Listen and start listening any podcast
- pause it, and then swipe Listen away from recent apps
- now go to your homescreen and push play on the widget......magic!
I think something still runs at the backstage even if you swipe away the app. Of course that might depend on the app, and who know if also on the Kerne/ROMl you are running.
I've noticed the GPS icon appearing for no reason after running Facebook.
Then when swiping away Facebook the GPS icon stops.
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the swipe only kills tasks in the foreground, to test, run a music app like Google music, then remove it from the list, it'll continue to play. it's not really a good feature, useful for some apps but if Google wanted the ux to be more consistent and intuitive then this is a prime example of one they failed at
the right way to do this would be to treat it like a force kill, but with a confirmation for ones running a background process
It kills them... Swipe away the XDA app.. Swipe away the browser... It starts fresh..
as for the person that suggested the music not starting over.. You can pause a song, restart your phone and it will be paused at the same spot.. So that's why that doesn't restart when swiped away.
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the swipe only kills tasks in the foreground, to test, run a music app like Google music, then remove it from the list, it'll continue to play. it's not really a good feature, useful for some apps but if Google wanted the ux to be more consistent and intuitive then this is a prime example of one they failed at
the right way to do this would be to treat it like a force kill, but with a confirmation for ones running a background process
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If you read in the link I posted, they go on to explain why things like music can continue to play. Honestly I don't really feel like pulling that information out for you, but the link is there so the information is there for you.
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If you read in the link I posted, they go on to explain why things like music can continue to play. Honestly I don't really feel like pulling that information out for you, but the link is there so the information is there for you.
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you don't seem to get my point, it's not about what Google wants, it's about user expectation. it's clearly a task killer and it doesn't behave the way you expect a task killer yo behave. this is why people love apples crap - it works the way you expect it to. obviously Google wants the function to work differently, so they need to presnt it differently so people aren't confused
that was a big point from duartes, that people don't love android, and yet they still don't really get
it fully. hopefully jelly bean picks up where ics has failed so aaple can go back to the little **** hole it belong in
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you don't seem to get my point, it's not about what Google wants, it's about user expectation. it's clearly a task killer and it doesn't behave the way you expect a task killer yo behave. this is why people love apples crap - it works the way you expect it to. obviously Google wants the function to work differently, so they need to presnt it differently so people aren't confused
that was a big point from duartes, that people don't love android, and yet they still don't really get
it fully. hopefully jelly bean picks up where ics has failed so aaple can go back to the little **** hole it belong in
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So basically you still have not read anything on that link.....
I see a debate team in the making whahahaaha
But seriousley.... the artical is inspired on appel ios..... i think its a little different
Then ics...
But i see the general meaning about it,ics recent app key doesnt kil procceses of the android system thus doesnt show it,right? And not important for the user
But in all fairness.... my ics recent app key doesnt kill annything though
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demon2112 said:
I see a debate team in the making whahahaaha
But seriousley.... the artical is inspired on appel ios..... i think its a little different
Then ics...
But i see the general meaning about it,ics recent app key doesnt kil procceses of the android system thus doesnt show it,right? And not important for the user
But in all fairness.... my ics recent app key doesnt kill annything though
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lol nah there can't be a debate if a person chooses to ignore the facts. BTW, I didn't mean the article, I meant read the comments on that particular post. They break down how the app killing works from the recent apps list. It doesn't work exactly like killing a task would in the "manage apps" area. It depends on the app that you are killing.
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lol nah there can't be a debate if a person chooses to ignore the facts. BTW, I didn't mean the article, I meant read the comments on that particular post. They break down how the app killing works from the recent apps list. It doesn't work exactly like killing a task would in the "manage apps" area. It depends on the app that you are killing.
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i stand corrected.... download the app......active app... its widget looks like a chip
instal it.... pop the widget on home and open browser,clise it with home key and open market and close it aswell with home key....the widget will show that there are 2 active apps....open recent app key and swype away....when widget refreshes it says 0 apps........voila..it truly is a killer that key.......
oke im confinsed....its realy a killer...now evereyone can check for them selves
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lol nah there can't be a debate if a person chooses to ignore the facts. BTW, I didn't mean the article, I meant read the comments on that particular post. They break down how the app killing works from the recent apps list. It doesn't work exactly like killing a task would in the "manage apps" area. It depends on the app that you are killing.
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difference is i understand the facts, you don't seem to understand at all my point. you talk just like a developer who doesn't understand why the user can't see your way to do something when the reality is, its the end user that's the most important. you even agree that it's not a real task killer but you can't see why that's a bad thing b because you think everyone who uses android really gives a ****. the only thing the end user will see is that it's "broken" for some apps. im fully aware of how the task killer works in android yet you keep thinking that's the topic. feel like im talking to a brick
im not sure why this concept of meeting expectation is so hard to grasp
as i said before, if Google wants it to work a certain way they need to present the function differently so the user doesn't expect differently, such as not showing apps that it won't close anyway, or allowing force close through a confirmation
It actually does kill the apps... sometimes. If anyone would have bothered to search around, this has already been discussed in detail. If an application is dormant, swiping it away from the recent apps screen will kill it. If an application is not dormant and actively using system resources, it will not kill the application.
2 posts up people!!!!
and get the proof for yourselves!
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Swiping away Google Talk doesn't kill it.
Swiping away Pandora doesn't kill it.
Swiping away Google Talk doesn't kill it.
Swiping away Groupme doesn't kill it.
Swiping away Terminal Emulator doesn't kill it.
Swiping away Maps doesn't kill it.
Yeah...I think I have convinced myself that its not a task killer. The same tasks killed by swiping away are the same ones that hitting the back button kills in any other Android OS. Business as usual, and depends on how the app is coded. I didn't use a third party anything to check. I looked under running in Manage Apps.
pks check with that app and report back plz
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pks check with that app and report back plz
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I am not gonna use a third party app for what I can see in Running. For all I know (and its likely) the third party app is incorrect.
adrynalyne said:
I am not gonna use a third party app for what I can see in Running. For all I know (and its likely) the third party app is incorrect.
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+1. All of you are talking about using crappy third party apps to check if swiping away an app kills it and preaching the results as gospel, none of you even knew how to check if an app is legitimately terminated. Smh. Swiping away apps in recent doesn't terminate it. All apps are coded differently. Learn about the OS before making claims of how a part of it operates in opossition to what its creators have stated.
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I've had this phone for a week now and loving the screen, form-factor, games and general ICS+Sense 4 functionality. I think I may have been lucky with mine as I haven't had any screen jitters, ripple effects, yellow blocks, loose glass or issues in general.
Having said that, I have a few gripes and wondering if other people feel the same way or know if there is a workaround to fix these little niggling issues... In particular:
Changing a music track when browsing the web (or doing anything else for that matter)
I cue up a bunch of songs on shuffle, then start browsing the web. A song comes on that I don't like. I have to either switch to the home page or the music app to skip the current track. Why aren't there "next" or "previous" buttons in the status pulldown menu? I can pause... but nothing else... frustrating that I have to switch apps just to change tracks.
Bringing the phone out of standby
So the size of the phone is great an all but the power button is a little frustrating to push. It's angled toward the front, and normally my hand will be behind the phone, making it an effort to try to hit the button. It's also not very pronounced making this even harder. It would be great if there was an easier way to bring it out of standby like with the capacitive home button or the volume rocker somehow...
Useless included apps can't be uninstalled
There are a few apps that HTC have included in their stock ROM. Why can I not uninstall these?! All these apps do at the moment is make it more difficult for me to locate the icons of the actual apps I want to use in the apps menu.
Anyone else feel the same way about any/all of the above?
That's it from me for now, VERY happy with the phone and can't wait to see what the XDA Devs can do with this beast!
1) Try a different music player, Poweramp or such.
2) Should be available on custom roms
3) Go into apps in settings then from there you can disable unwanted items. Alternatively root and delete using Titanium or Root explorer.
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There are a few apps that HTC have included in their stock ROM. Why can I not uninstall these?! All these apps do at the moment is make it more difficult for me to locate the icons of the actual apps I want to use in the apps menu.
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I wondered about this as well.
I haven't got my phone yet but whenever I see a screenshot of the apps I see Crappy Birds and Amazon mp3.
I sure hope that crappy crap game isn't in the ROM by default...
No but there's another annoying game along other stuff called "Teeter" on the phone. They better get paid a crapload of money for this bloatware to be installed on their devices.
Noticed the power button to wake myself: Angle is really not that well placed.
I don't like another thing: Being able to change volume without unlocking the screen always causes me to do just that: The volume rocker is too big to miss it when holding the phone in the hand normally.
Apart from that: Incredible phone!
"I cue up a bunch of songs on shuffle, then start browsing the web. A song comes on that I don't like."
Why did you cue up a song you didn't like
Traniz said:
I wondered about this as well.
I haven't got my phone yet but whenever I see a screenshot of the apps I see Crappy Birds and Amazon mp3.
I sure hope that crappy crap game isn't in the ROM by default...
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Neither Angry Birds or Amazon MP3 were preinstalled on mine.
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Traniz said:
I wondered about this as well.
I haven't got my phone yet but whenever I see a screenshot of the apps I see Crappy Birds and Amazon mp3.
I sure hope that crappy crap game isn't in the ROM by default...
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2weiklang said:
No but there's another annoying game along other stuff called "Teeter" on the phone. They better get paid a crapload of money for this bloatware to be installed on their devices.
Noticed the power button to wake myself: Angle is really not that well placed.
I don't like another thing: Being able to change volume without unlocking the screen always causes me to do just that: The volume rocker is too big to miss it when holding the phone in the hand normally.
Apart from that: Incredible phone!
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Teeter is an HTC game and has been included on just about everyone of their phones for the last five years.
It's fun, try it
What's a good app or way to close all apps at once?
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mario24601 said:
What's a good app or way to close all apps at once?
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Press the Home button.
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Press the Home button.
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lol apps dont close when you press the home button smart one. and op if you click the multi-window button(the one on the right of home button) you can swipe them all away really fast but dont really know about all at once
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lol apps dont close when you press the home button smart one. and op if you click the multi-window button(the one on the right of home button) you can swipe them all away really fast but dont really know about all at once
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Yes was hoping for an all close at once type app. Had that on iPhone thought might have something similar.
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There are 3rd party app killers in the play store. Check there...
There was a stock task manager...but I guess Google removed it for JB
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Cyanogenmod 10.1 has a button on the multitasking menu to do that. But it's kinda pointless except to clear the list of recently used apps. Android, if my understanding is correct, automatically fills the memory with tasks so killing apps is worse than pointless since you're just causing the system to prioritize unused background processes over the ones that you use more often.
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You should listen to this guy. I know you're coming from a different OS, so you aren't aware of how Android deals with memory. The system is very good at multitasking. Apps that have been idling in the background will be pushed out and won't consume resources or ramp up your CPU. By killing those apps, you force the system to have to reload and process resources necessary to start the app. Android will keep enough of the resources to quickly fire up the app, but restrict activity so that your battery is pretty much unaffected.
An analogy if you need it: Android will bookmark and close whatever you were reading. That way, you can move the book around or leave it on the shelf and quickly pick it up and continue from the last page you were on. You are requesting that the system instead just closes the book, and buries it in a box with other books, and which is located in the attic. It takes more resources to find the book and locate the page again. Just let Android do its thing. Any popular dev will tell you the same thing.
TL;DNR - Don't use a task killer, you will get far better battery life and performance if you let the system deal with system resources.
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lol apps dont close when you press the home button smart one. and op if you click the multi-window button(the one on the right of home button) you can swipe them all away really fast but dont really know about all at once
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Don't listen to this guy. He used the phrase "smart one," which I haven't heard since I was in elementary school (and I thought it was un-clever and uselessly sarcastic then). He also thinks that swiping away apps from the recents menu kills them. This is not how Android works. AOKP devs will not implement a recents menu that actually does let you swipe to kill apps because it's a useless feature that does more harm than good (zero benefit, actually). Just trust that your system knows how to handle its resources.
TL;DNR - Swiping away apps from the recents menu doesn't kill them. Stop trying to kill apps; only do so if they're unresponsive.
If u really want it, aokp has this feature
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reboot?
Hung0702 said:
You should listen to this guy. I know you're coming from a different OS, so you aren't aware of how Android deals with memory. The system is very good at multitasking. Apps that have been idling in the background will be pushed out and won't consume resources or ramp up your CPU. By killing those apps, you force the system to have to reload and process resources necessary to start the app. Android will keep enough of the resources to quickly fire up the app, but restrict activity so that your battery is pretty much unaffected.
An analogy if you need it: Android will bookmark and close whatever you were reading. That way, you can move the book around or leave it on the shelf and quickly pick it up and continue from the last page you were on. You are requesting that the system instead just closes the book, and buries it in a box with other books, and which is located in the attic. It takes more resources to find the book and locate the page again. Just let Android do its thing. Any popular dev will tell you the same thing.
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Let's say I start loading a web page and quickly jump to another app before it's loaded, then when I return to Chrome the page is ready and waiting. Doesn't this imply that apps are not just simply bookmarked and closed, but may remain active in the background? I am asking, not saying btw.
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Let's say I start loading a web page and quickly jump to another app before it's loaded, then when I return to Chrome the page is ready and waiting. Doesn't this imply that apps are not just simply bookmarked and closed, but may remain active in the background? I am asking, not saying btw.
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Foreground apps are told that they are no longer in view, but are allowed to keep running if they wish. The OS will stop them if the memory is needed - which with 2GB is not very often on the nexus 4!
So Hung0702 was wrong on the last page when he said:
Apps that have been idling in the background will be pushed out and won't consume resources or ramp up your CPU
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It seems as though background apps can use resources and may have a negative impact on battery. Now I have got to the bottom of this I also want a clear all button!
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So Hung0702 was wrong on the last page when he said:
It seems as though background apps can use resources and may have a negative impact on battery. Now I have got to the bottom of this I also want a clear all button!
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Yes, they can keep using resources in the background. However, they will usually not keep the cpu awake unless they have an actual background service, so they will not stop the device from sleeping. As far as I know this is not enforced, but most apps will release the wakelock when told to pause by the OS (because the app is now hidden). This means they shouldn't have much impact on battery life.
You can see what is currently running by going to Settings -> Apps and select the Running tab. The recent apps list is not the same - most will have actually closed when you hid them.
I have to say this is the first gameloft game that I really like. The graphics run on high and so far it runs smooth.
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.
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My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.
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Oh trust me, I'm a Android veteran, and know all about killing running task! I do kill all running processes before playing, but I still see some lag. It only seems to run best when the entire Shield is rebooted. I am pretty sure that this is an optimization issue with the game, as I dont have to reboot at all with all the other tegra 4 enhanced games that I have on my Shield.
I just wanted to see if i was the only person having this issue..thanks for replying
Drifting
Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.
ChrisFirerabbit said:
Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.
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What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.
SiDCrAzY said:
What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.
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Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
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ChrisFirerabbit said:
Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
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Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.
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Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.
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oh ok, thank you
MRCANNADY said:
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.
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Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.
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I just saw this tip in the nvidia forums also. Thanks...works like a charm! Very little to no lag now.
I've had a lot of fun with this game as well.
But has anyone noticed any random crashing to homescreen? My first crash was when my battery was getting fairly low, so I was afraid that had something to do with it. But then even after recharging some I got more random crashes. I re-enabled wifi and haven't had a crash since...
That kind of makes me curious what is going on... but I haven't looked into it further yet, so don't mean to raise any alarms.
Throughout all this though it has not corrupted my save data or anything, at least as of yet *knock on wood*. I think it was Asphault 7 that one time I got a phone call in the middle of gameplay and it crashed the game and corrupted my save data >_> I had some backups though, but lost some progress.
~Troop
That's weird. I haven't seen any crashes yet but I haven't played it for extended periods of time yet either.
Really Glad that one good Racing game has the controller support.
Enjoyed playing the game a lot
All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.
tenchichrono said:
All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.
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Agree! it all ends up with the developer/publisher for the support.
I dunno if other people feel the same way but don't you hate it that you have to scroll all the way to the left to press the clear all apps button? Is there a way to make that show up on the right instead?
Yes, bad design ...
I've submitted a request to google via settings/about phone/send feedback about this device to move the clear apps button to be placed next to screen shot and select options when you open up the recent screen.
It is annoying when if like me you have the habit of clearing apps down, although I read somewhere that Google would preferer you to not clear recent apps so they load quicker when next opened and that their learning adaptive battery preferences help snooze the apps in the background and learns when you are likely to use them next so it so they are ready for you. I'm sure if I'm wrong I'll be corrected about the info.
I mean, it's pointless having it there lol, it's like they sat down and asked each other, would would be the most inconvenient place to put this!
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I've submitted a request to google via settings/about phone/send feedback about this device to move the clear apps button to be placed next to screen shot and select options when you open up the recent screen.
It is annoying when if like me you have the habit of clearing apps down, although I read somewhere that Google would preferer you to not clear recent apps so they load quicker when next opened and that their learning adaptive battery preferences help snooze the apps in the background and learns when you are likely to use them next so it so they are ready for you. I'm sure if I'm wrong I'll be corrected about the info.
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What you read is apparently true actually. I saw the same answer when searching around.
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What you read is apparently true actually. I saw the same answer when searching around.
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Argh that's good, so I never dreamt about it Thanks for confirming
There is little to no reason to actually clear this list. It may help clear up some RAM, but the phone has so much that it truly does not matter.
Apps will go into suspended state after not being touched after some time.
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There is little to no reason to actually clear this list. It may help clear up some RAM, but the phone has so much that it truly does not matter.
Apps will go into suspended state after not being touched after some time.
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I know this but it's habbit for me and others alike, I just like them to be closed been doing it since I got my very 1st android a million years ago also it's a little OCD to clear things off, for me it is..... I sometimes get frustrated with myself because I'll clear an app that I've just been on and know I'm going back to it but still close it....
Left is weird for me as well
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I know this but it's habbit for me and others alike, I just like them to be closed been doing it since I got my very 1st android a million years ago also it's a little OCD to clear things off, for me it is..... I sometimes get frustrated with myself because I'll clear an app that I've just been on and know I'm going back to it but still close it....
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This is a bad habit, Google is doing you a favour by making it more difficult.
Clearing the apps will actually make the phone slower and waste more battery. Because it has to load every app from scratch, every time. Every app will take a few seconds longer to open, CPU will be stressed harder, doing tasks it already did a couple hours and would not need to do again if apps were not cleared up.
Obviously the CPU re-doing tasks will consume more battery and the phone will likely die before the end of the day and people will come here and complain about the battery being bad.
Apps being kept in memory is done for a reason and it is the best practice. It's how it's done in every OS, especially Linux.
In iOS, for instance, even if you clear the apps from the list, it won't actually clear everything from memory. and this is the best practice. If the app is misbehaving, go into settings and force kill it. Otherwise, you want the app to be in mem cache.
Do yourself a favour and drop this bad habit.
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Do yourself a favour and drop this bad habit.
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Agree. At first coming from my S8+, I missed clearing recents just out of habit to keep things organized when switching apps. Now however, I'm finding switching apps via swiping left/right on the bottom of the screen on the P6P to be super convenient. I hardly ever even open recents anymore, and if I need to remove a rarely used app from there it's much more practical to remove one with a swipe than all of them. Get out of the bad habit and save yourself some battery and loading time
The only time I ever clear an app from Recents is when a single app is giving me issues.
Agreed, I dropped this habit a while back as it really doesn't serve any purpose to clear them for the aforementioned reasons!