(opinion) back, home, search key assignment - Windows Phone 7 General

don't know you guys, but imho,
back should just be back.
multitasking should use long press home (instead of long press back)
and voice search should use long press search (instead of long press home)
reason for this is (in my case) search is kinda under-utilized and back gets used all the time. i'd rather leave back key to back function alone.
what's your thought on this?
edit: oh, i'd also rather have back key to go back within the same app and not to desktop or some other app.

I agree with the long press on the search button for tellme search. But back button is a better choice for multitasking menu because your finger is going to drift there to switch back an app.
Btw don't call it the home button... Its the start button =)

hardcoreplur said:
I agree with the long press on the search button for tellme search. But back button is a better choice for multitasking menu because your finger is going to drift there to switch back an app.
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my rationale is to separate in-app navigation (use back) and between-app navigation (use home).
right now there's no indication of where you are in the "back queue". e.g. you don't know that you are already backed to root navigation inside an app and another back would bring you outside the app. coupled with lag in certain apps, it can be very frustrating.

I think I like things the way they are. I use the search button (hardware) a ton.

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[Q] Home button returns to last use Home Screen

Ok, I have search and search around the web but cannot find answer. (sorry if this question has been asked but I did try and search)
At the moment say you have a short cut to an app on one of your home screen that is not the default home (centre screen), when you press the Home button to exit the application it returns you to the centre default home screen instead of the home screen you launched the app from. Is there anyway to change that or a patch to put on the phone?
I know you can press the back button to do this, but just wanted to know can it be done via the Home button.
I am on Sense 3.0 by the way, not using any other launcher.
You can't, when you press the Home button you basically launch the Home app, in your case Rosie, and it launches with your default home screen first.
To put it simply, you can't.
uros0104 said:
You can't, when you press the Home button you basically launch the Home app, in your case Rosie, and it launches with your default home screen first.
To put it simply, you can't.
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Oh well, I guess there wasn't any harm to ask... I do think it is a bit stupid in my opinion... hehe.

Playing with Root and Keymapping

I was thinking since we have root and we have a Hardware Keyboard it would be nice to actually have a Hardware button for the Camera.
So I started Searching around on how to do it. I found an application that claimed to be able to do it called "buttonremapper". Unfortunately this program only sees the Menu and back button. 2 buttons I do not wish to remap.
I did find a program called Keynrtracker on XDA that allows me to see the ID's of every button pressed including the Hardware buttons.
I researched a little more and found where the Key mapping files are located:
"system/usr/keylayout"
In here, there are many files that have to do with the keyboard. I found the one to modify is the:
"STMPE_keypad.kl"
this file has all the keys and I simply wanted to change the Search button from the keypad to bring up the Camera so I did this:
key 217 CAMERA WAKE_DROPPED
where previously 217 was:
key 217 SEARCH WAKE_DROPPED
"Wake dropped" is to tell the button to wake up if asleep or not.
Make sure you backup before have root and save. Reboot to load changes.
Well it now works I have a Hardware Camera button. One thing I noticed is I have to Hard press the button and hold not just click. Anyone know why? Added benefit is once the camera app is open, it also takes pictures by pressing on that same button.
JB
nice ^__^
It sounds like you re-mapped long press search, which normally goes to google search, which is why you may have to hold it down longer. Does a short press bring up the normal search menu?
Nardholio said:
It sounds like you re-mapped long press search, which normally goes to google search, which is why you may have to hold it down longer. Does a short press bring up the normal search menu?
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Short press on its own does nothing. Pressing it with any other key does a normal search.
dudejb said:
I was thinking since we have root and we have a Hardware Keyboard it would be nice to actually have a Hardware button for the Camera.
JB
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I'm assuming, you want to have it set as a 1 key touch operation instead of setting it up in quick launch configuration like Search + C.
pics can be taken using the OK button by default.
clockwork58 said:
I'm assuming, you want to have it set as a 1 key touch operation instead of setting it up in quick launch configuration like Search + C.
pics can be taken using the OK button by default.
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Agreed 1 touch I also like the ability of knowing I can change any key on the keyboard like that useless "www.com"button.
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Best way to 'close' apps + folder problem

Hi, first thing, this is my first Android phone and I understand I should press the back button to close out of apps rather than press the home button. So this means if I have been surfing for a while, I have to press back, say 20 times, going backward through all the pages I've visited, until I reach the first page opened and the browser will close.
I know I can press home to close, then press the right menu button to bring up the recent apps and swipe the browser away, but isn't there a better way to close out of programs? I thought maybe holding the 'back' button would force close it but it just brings up the browsing history.
2nd: I'm finding that some programs do not go into certain 'folders' while it goes into other folders, what is causing this?
Thanks.
On cm10 or any custom rom actually has the option in developers options to "long press back to kill app" if you don't have that option the only way is it press the home button hit the recent apps button not the menu button and swipe it away. How is that hard? Its much harder to do the same task on iOS.
Also I'm not too sure what you mean by the folder deal can you take a screenshot and upload it here. ( hold power + volume down.)
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The browser is a unique case where you don't have to back out. The best way is just close the current tab, or all tabs you have open, to close the browser. You don't go 20 pages back for browser closing. But for all apps yes back button is the best way to close apps when you're done.
Lol wow... I do that all the time and completely forgot thanks.
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hardware button long press remapping

messing around with the (how to enable soft touch keys) mod I found how to remap the hardware buttons to my liking... I was able to remap the home button to search and back, but I've found that whatever happens 1 line of code makes the button's 3 functions go with it... when I made it search pressing it brought up search, long pressing it brought up voice search and double pressing did nothing. I even tried making the menu button into home and all it's functions came with it, double pressing the menu button brought up s voice and long pressing it brought the task manager.
I guess my question is this: since the code tells a button what it's called where are the functions of these names stored? I can change the home key "key 172" to "SEARCH" but I haven't been able to find which file figures out what to do when a button labeled "SEARCH" is pressed, double pressed, or held...
I know s voice knows how to edit this file since it has control over double trapping home. and android system knows how to edit it too since every android "including our phone" asks to select a default action when long pressing a "SEARCH" button
my ultimate goal is reconfiguring a button to bring up Google now (which I love) without undoing the original button function (say making double tap home or long pressing menu bring up Google now). I'm also sure others would benefit from knowing how to do this kind of stuff namely people who want a camera button or a search button
any help would be appreciated
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Q: Lock app in memory even after pushing the BACK button?

Hi all,
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to lock an app in memory even if I push the back button?
I am locking 2-3 most frequently used apps from the "Recents" menu but that gets washed away when I press the "Back" button after being done with the respective app.
I know the best option would be to start pushing the "Home" button but over the years I developed a habit of pushing the "Back" button several times to go to home or once to close the app and it's very hard to change behavior now.
I'm on NitrogenOS (8.1) if it matters - stock kernel.
Cheers.
DonnyR said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to lock an app in memory even if I push the back button?
I am locking 2-3 most frequently used apps from the "Recents" menu but that gets washed away when I press the "Back" button after being done with the respective app.
I know the best option would be to start pushing the "Home" button but over the years I developed a habit of pushing the "Back" button several times to go to home or once to close the app and it's very hard to change behavior now.
I'm on NitrogenOS (8.1) if it matters - stock kernel.
Cheers.
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Unless the back button is programmed to kill an app, the app should stay in memory. So check the options for the back button and change it.
It is set to close app. Long press for kill. But still does not work.
If I assign to something else, then basic acknowledge functionality does not work...
DonnyR said:
It is set to close app. Long press for kill. But still does not work.
If I assign to something else, then basic acknowledge functionality does not work...
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Check the long press duration and if possible lengthen it. Or assign double tap for kill and none for long press as an experiment and check.

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