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Does anyone know if juice defender is actually a good app or no.
I use it on my phone but I never keep and data connections on anyway 3g 4g and wifi r always off unless I need to use them and then I turn them off when I'm done.
Since its "job" is kind of already done by me could it be a source of battery drain since its always running andin a way its for no reason.
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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Just think.its another app that wl run.just go to settings and customize that way.task killers waste battery and take up space.to maximize battery,research and try roms and kernels with different settings.im on miui rom,kernel v8,panache radio,and am at 38% battery,so with moderate use,its 38% after 10 hrs.gps off,with sporadic use of wifi.in otherwords,try different setups,but juice defender is up to u.
Myt4g on pacquiao type roids.miui.panache.
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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I'm using his hawk 2 rom right now lol.
I guess I will take it off and see if I notice and differences. Thanks
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Just think.its another app that wl run.just go to settings and customize that way.task killers waste battery and take up space.to maximize battery,research and try roms and kernels with different settings.im on miui rom,kernel v8,panache radio,and am at 38% battery,so with moderate use,its 38% after 10 hrs.gps off,with sporadic use of wifi.in otherwords,try different setups,but juice defender is up to u.
Myt4g on pacquiao type roids.miui.panache.
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That's what I was thinking.
So you also think that advance task killer isn't nesessary?
I use my phone a lot for almost everything so I try to keep my battery as high as possble but sometimes after just 3 or 4 hours I could be at 30% or lower.
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It is a very useful app, it will disable your radios when the screen is off to preserve battery life.
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It is a very useful app, it will disable your radios when the screen is off to preserve battery life.
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But I keep everything off already
And I usually have problems with my signal I'm not sure if it could be from it or not but I'm gonna just uninstall it for a whil and see if there's any differences.
Juice defender works well for me. At work I would have to put my phone on the charge at noon just playing mp3s. i get through the hole day now with 40% or better. i stream music for about 7.5 hours of the work day.
I've used Juice Defender since I got my Epic.
Though now that I'm running an EH17 ROM, and frozen DRM services, it's really not necessary for me anymore. Been off the charger for 11 hours with light use and it's still over 50% - on the rom it shipped with I was lucky to get 8 hours before it would shut off (with JD I'd get about 18 hours).
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Juice defender works well for me. At work I would have to put my phone on the charge at noon just playing mp3s. i get through the hole day now with 40% or better. i stream music for about 7.5 hours of the work day.
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It probably helps you cuz you have internet connection on and it turns it off when your phone is sleep. I keep all my internet connections off all the time so I don't think out does anything in my case.
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I've used Juice Defender since I got my Epic.
Though now that I'm running an EH17 ROM, and frozen DRM services, it's really not necessary for me anymore. Been off the charger for 11 hours with light use and it's still over 50% - on the rom it shipped with I was lucky to get 8 hours before it would shut off (with JD I'd get about 18 hours).
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I'm on eh17 too and I froze drm, sns, and system updates. So far I've been on my phone for an hour and a half and in still at 100% this is great. I installed juice defender last night.
I have been using juice defender for a few weeks and it helps my battery life a lot. It really depends on your usage. I am in roaming areas fairly often where my phone used to search for signal for a long time if I keep it on.
I installed Juice Defender the other day & my phone had issues right away. I unistalled within a couple of hours. However, afterwards I was unable to access my pictures or videos stored on the SD card. I know this app caused the issue because I was looking at some pics right before installing it & could not access them after installing. Luckily I ran accross a post in th PA CM10 thread that gave me the solution. For some reason the Juice Defender app placed a .nomedia file on the root of my SD card that was causing my issue. I deleated that file & the media scanner autmatically started running. Just like that I had pictures again.
I hope this helps anyone that may run across this issue.
It wasn't juice defender... if you have rom manager it was that... I use juice defender and have never had it place a .nomedia anywhere... the app doesn't place files anywhere...
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It wasn't juice defender... if you have rom manager it was that... I use juice defender and have never had it place a .nomedia anywhere... the app doesn't place files anywhere...
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Thanks for the correction.....I assumed that since installing JD was the only thing that had changed in the hour or two that the issue popped up, then that would be the cause.....I have had ROM Manager & GooManager for a while but have had no such issues before....I guess if it becomes an issue then I will have to loose those......I only use them to check for updates & always do manual downloads & installs for the ROM's anyway......
Thanks again & sorry for jumping to conclusions......
Your good... a recent update to rom manager messed some things up... if you check its all over the forums that everybodies media is disappearing... rom manager is to blame... but I believe it has been updated and fixed....
depends on the ROM
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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I find it depends on the ROM. I was using it for CM9 to help but I find the CM10 pre+kernel+nexus modem combo is doing me wonders. I also stopped using the facebook app, uninstalled facebook mgr as well and use Trillian to connect to FB, AIM, etc. also trying to get rid of this media server.. seems I dont need it. I expect more battery after that (if removing it is possible) because it's #3 on my batt draining list right now.
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I find it depends on the ROM. I was using it for CM9 to help but I find the CM10 pre+kernel+nexus modem combo is doing me wonders. I also stopped using the facebook app, uninstalled facebook mgr as well and use Trillian to connect to FB, AIM, etc. also trying to get rid of this media server.. seems I dont need it. I expect more battery after that (if removing it is possible) because it's #3 on my batt draining list right now.
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If you listen to music and such (I believe whether it be streaming or mp3s from the sd card) that's why you see media server so high... same for me, but I'm constantly sitening to music while surfing xda... and still pull off 16+ hours on cm10... I used to use juice defender, but found if your gonna turn of data and such, it saves more battery if you can remember to do it yourself instead of having an app use resources to do so.........
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I used to use apps like JD or advanced task killer to kill background processes and turn stuff off until I found out how Android handles programs in the background so I became less concerned.
If you're having issues with massive drain on battery life, make sure its not because of weak cell phone reception. If you're in an area with little to no signal your phone will use up extra juice to try to attain a connection so it'll drain your battery like 50% faster. Also make sure you have things you don't use turned off... like BT, GPS, WIFI, 4G anything thats optional.
Also consider the battery and whether or not it needs replacement. I got a defective battery and didn't know it until I had the ability to compare my phone to 4 other Epic 4g phones.
Is it possible to completely uninstall the ticker?
Also, would it be possible to build a Rom without the ticker being included?
Looking for ways to save battery... thanks.
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I dont think the ticker would use up much battery, i think the both add up to 1 4in display, and those have good battery life. How long are you getting on a charge?
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The ticker is built into everything you do... I can hide the main screen, and everything else for that matter..... But it'll really do no good
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Ok, just wondering. I turned every feed off and stopped all ticker-related running services & went from around 280 running ram to 210 - 220 on Task Manager.
So I thought it might be worth a look...
I'm on ec07/ ec07 clean and am getting between 14 - 20 hours from a full charge, depending on my usage... some days it's crazy... thank goodness for smart phones.
I'm usually a pretty heavy user though: Facebook, XDA, Gmail, weather, only 1 Fancy Widget (clock: 4 X 2 size), checking Calendar all the time, on the phone a lot, send lots of texts, listen to music from Music Player through Blue Tooth headset, in/ out of the market a lot, switch launchers a lot...
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You're not going to squeeze more than 20 hours out of this bad boy without just leaving it sit all day...
Turn off mobile data when you don't need it. This will double the time between charges at least.
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I'm usually a pretty heavy user though: Facebook, XDA, Gmail, weather, only 1 Fancy Widget (clock: 4 X 2 size), checking Calendar all the time, on the phone a lot, send lots of texts, listen to music from Music Player through Blue Tooth headset, in/ out of the market a lot, switch launchers a lot...
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Thats your problem right there. All of these use data heavily. turn data off when not in use.
Turn off bluetooth, turn off wifi, turn off data... turn down screen brightness. and limit your use. that's the best way. as long as your phone is in use the cpu will be under load and will be using power. Same as the screen. No way to prevent energy use that way. Ram doesn't have much to do with it other than the auto syncing apps like facebook, gmail, etc. which will be running even when your phone is idling.
I didn't think it was a problem.
I thought 20+ hours with everything running was good.
I know that turning mobile data off will make it last longer, but I'm not interested in doing that cuz I want to stay connected.
I'm happy with the phone, battery & everything else, but was just trying to squeeze the max life out of it.
To me now, the ticker us basically just extra notifications anyways, so that's why I was asking about it.
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Thats your problem right there. All of these use data heavily. turn data off when not in use.
Turn off bluetooth, turn off wifi, turn off data... turn down screen brightness. and limit your use. that's the best way. as long as your phone is in use the cpu will be under load and will be using power. Same as the screen. No way to prevent energy use that way. Ram doesn't have much to do with it other than the auto syncing apps like facebook, gmail, etc. which will be running even when your phone is idling.
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So, basically, stop using it for what it was intended?... I'll deal with short battery life rather than do that... I auto-download podcasts, keep up with the socials, and make the occasional phone call... Sure my battery life is horrible, but I'm getting the most out of my device.
And 20 hours is excellent for a smart phone... Just recharge every night.
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I didn't think it was a problem.
I thought 20+ hours with everything running was good.
I know that turning mobile data off will make it last longer, but I'm not interested in doing that cuz I want to stay connected.
I'm happy with the phone, battery & everything else, but was just trying to squeeze the max life out of it.
To me now, the ticker us basically just extra notifications anyways, so that's why I was asking about it.
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If you get 20+ hours with all of you say you do, then you are doing something right. If i am on myphone, messing with stuff, changing things, playing, texting, emails, etc my phone is lucky to last half a day, but it is expected as a phone such as ours will use a lot of power by the screen, processer, etc.
I don't quite understand what you are trying to do? get even better battery life, or simply remove the icons from the ticker?
I suppose removing the icons, which i am sure trailblazer can do, as he said, will help save power in the sense of the pixels not illuminating. Our amoled screens use very little power when displaying a black screen by basically turning off each individual pixel, but like he said, the application will still be running in the background, so it is a little pointless. And, lastly, in order to completly remove the ticker we would need to build a rom from source to not include the ticker.
Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?
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Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?
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do you have apps that can access your location? (weather apps, maps etc.) If yes, you may wanna go settings > location and security > and then uncheck "Use wireless network" in case you have not done it yet.
I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.
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She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.
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Wouldn't phone idle be the max usage? For my Atrix phone idle is at 70% or so when I barely use the phone and Android OS is 3%. I can try disabling facebook overnight to see if the Android OS usage goes down.
The battery life for this phone is ok. It hits ~30% or so in the early evening, meaning we need to charge the phone if she goes out that evening. For my Atrix the battery doesn't hit 30% until midnight under light usage conditions (no games).
Is there an app or logcat keyword to filter to break down exactly which thread/process is using up the CPU?
edit: nm, going to read through this first
From looking at the wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats the likely culprit for the battery usage is the facebook chat portion of the fb app. The wife has many contacts in the chat, so it's probably polling quite a bit. For me the wakelock count for fb chat is fairly low. fb chat is a must for the wife so I can't disable it.
Also in the process screen I see several kworkers with high usage...not sure exactly what's causing that.
so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.
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so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.
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my infuse 4g has a battery drain because of fb.....it's always the next thing that is draining the battery (i hope to get screenies). I just force close fb (or set refresh interval to "never") when I am done using it....
I can't say that this is same as yours but it may be a thing to look up.
Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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I just updated it within the past hour or so. No idea what changed.
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Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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Yes, it's a bug and I hope that they have fixed it.
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Doesn't appear to have fixed it. Charged up. Two hours later android os is at 26%. Second only to screen. Before I started using it it was at 60%.
Do you happen to use advanced task killer this may help
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Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?
Well when I first use my phone a lot of apps are running at startup but you could have a bad phone I don't have the phone so I don't know
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Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?
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From the betterbatterystats output, I'm pretty sure the high Android OS usage is software related and specific to the stock ROM. The radio and wifi battery usage are normal.
I have no clue what the kworker processes are doing when the phone is supposed to be idle. Overnight my Atrix is 68% idle, 12% cell standby...android OS is 2%.
Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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BT is already off. I could turn off both wifi and data network and if it turns out that is what is causing the battery drain (does not seem like it)...then what? Don't use wifi and the data network? It seems like there's little we can do as an average user to fix the high Android OS usage when idle. It does not seem like high kworker process usage can be fixed by TiBu or other simple fixes from a user.
Another update from Samsung, custom ROMs, and other dev fixes on xda seem to be the only options.
You need to find the source to find a rom that will repair this sometimes an launcher can make your battery die faster I know that Facebook and the browser use a ton of ram I have a stock app on my phone called application manager and I can stop apps that are using my ram
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Confirm the following option is unchecked:
Maps/Settings/Location settings/Report from this device.
If it is checked, uncheck it.
Here's the difference in battery life -
About half the battery drain with the option unchecked.
Thanks for the tip
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
I updated my phone to JB and followed the battery saving measures and the battery is dropping very quickly.
Before it could last up to 3 days in standby, now I'll be surprised if it lasts 8 hours.
I'll give it another day then try a factory reset if it does not improve.
Anybody else seeing this?
I have watchdog on the phone and it shows zero cpu off time.
Just install better battery stats, there is also a way to dump the same info in terminal but I don't use it. You are looking for alarms apps cause. It's most likely maps, followed by talk, exchange client, or anything like Twitter, FB,g+,stocks.... but most likely maps location settings
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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You are pretty much correct the FB app sucks but I never really had much problems with it.
A lot of these tips though in general (not directed towards you) are stupid.
Like someone said a while ago I refuse to gimp my phone to sip a little bit more life out of it. What's the use of having a smartphone if you're not going to use it like one.
I always have high brightness unless its dark out. I broke my syncs intervals up to about 4 hours per sync and have push notifications from twitter and weather.
With those apps all I have to do is refresh when I enter the app having those syncing all the time is worthless unless you're constantly checking every 10 seconds.
I say I get fairly decent battery life granted I'm on wifi most the time and 7-8 hours with about 2 hrs screen on playing HD games youtube poweramp and my background processes.
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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Also even though you are disabling sone of these apps like google now.... you can still use it your just turning off the background nonsense
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Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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what rom and kernel are u using
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
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Oh wow. Sorry from my phone I couldn't zoom in. I see now lol. Thought I saw 90 and 89 or something like that
I had the Maps setting turned off for a few days and also had A LOT of stuff disabled, but unfortunately my battery life (and my wife's as well) wasn't as good as ICS, and quite a bit worse actually.
Sadly, today, it looks like I figured out what the killer is:
Google Now.
This morning, 100% charged, I turned it off. My wife (who still had it on) and I were out and about together for about four hours, we both barely used out phones for that time. When we got home I checked both phones: I was at 96%, she was at 80%.
The only difference that I hadn't already accounted for:
Google Now.
So, unfortunately, it looks to me like one of the two biggest reasons for wanting JB in the first place (Butter being the other of course) turns out to be a big battery hog I don't yet know if there's maybe some setting within it that is a specific problem or if it's the whole thing in general... maybe you just need to disable a card or change an update frequency or something (I didn't touch any so I'm running whatever the defaults are), I don't know yet... but all indications are that's where the problem lies.
That, my friends, sucks.
Well since my phone has calmed down I am getting 13-16 hr easily. Brightness maxed of course and about 4-6 screen on time I will never cripple my phone. Hell I bought it so I can use not to look at. Lol thanks for the post of this though if I'm ever I. A die hard , situation I'll know what to do
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Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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Google Now uses the "Report from this device" and "Enable location history" maps location settings to determine your driving patterns so it can suggest alternative routes and report traffic delays. Disabling "Enable location history" will disable the driving pattern suggestions completely.
FWIW Settings | More settings | Mobile networks | Network mode
Changing from "CDMA" to "LTE / CDMA" has gained me better battery life. My wife also noticed the same.
(To save time, I'm cutting & pasting my post from another similar thread.)
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963689&page=3
"I have had my Galaxy S3 for a week now. Battery life stabilized after the initial syncing, etc. I updated to Jelly Bean v4.1.1 two days ago, and battery life didn't seem noticeably different. However, that was until today. My phone was off of the charger, around 10AM, and had < 5% charge by 4:30PM. I was very busy, so I was hardly using the phone all day. It was in my pocket or on my desk most of the time. One of the only settings I changed last night, was enabling 'Use wireless networks' and enabling 'Location and Google search' under 'Location Services' in 'Settings'. I just disabled both settings, and will see if the battery drain is any less tomorrow. Also, Google Now was off, and was never enabled on my phone. I'll try to post the results, if at all possible..."
So, for me, it seems to be Location Services may have caused my poor battery life, and was definitly not Google Now, as it was never enabled. I'll try using the phone with the settings off, and see if that changes anything...
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Stock stock stock jellybean ota... that's it
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I do love Jelly Bean; as it is ICS only improved or enhanced. But battery life has definitely taken a hit. I can barely make it through 24 hrs. On ICS I could do a day and a half to two days with really light use. I've tried just about everything mentioned with little change. Good thing I have an extra battery. Thank you Samsung for making a phone with a user replaceable battery.
Thanks for all the ideas/suggestions anyways,
El Mono
I noticed the huge difference as well. I was walking around Chicago yesterday and not using my phone. After 4 hours I looked and my battery was at 50 %.
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I know this horse has been beat to death, I'm just hoping I can get maybe one bit of info that will help me resolve this issue before I just swap out to another phone. I really don't want to, but I'm just so sick of being chained to a charging cord all day. My phone should be able to hold a charge for at least 1 day, I don't even use it that much!
So with my little tirade out of the way, let me give you the facts I've got a Samsung Galaxy S II/SPH-D710, and the battery just drains down so fast, and the phone's barely 6 months old. I've downloaded numerous process monitoring apps, designed to see what's going on, and they all point at WiFi being the culprit. The phone never hits deep sleep because the wireless is keeping it awake. Sure enough if I turn WiFi off and I go 3G/4G all day my battery is fine. Problem is I can't get to that next level and find out what program or process is causing the WiFi to be on all the time. Even more frustrating, every time there's an upgrade like FI27 or FL24 which I'm on now, the battery works fine for a day or two. Then something kicks in and destroys the battery. My thought is it's got to be an app, I just don't know which one.
So before I kick this piece of **** out the window, I was hoping someone could please help me figure out what app/process is the cause of my battery drain.
Get DS Battery Saver. It will force all of your stuff off when you turn off the screen so that it will go into deep sleep.
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Get a new battery?
Apps, batteries, ics vodoo it's a host of things that can solve your battery drain issue. Being that your phone is 6 months old I have to rule out the battery. The fact that your on ics is going to be main culprit, stock ics was not the best at managing battery use. There's something revving the crap out of your Wi-Fi, while Wi-Fi is on even while your screen is off there are processes going on in the background that are using Wi-Fi to send receive, update, sync, you name it and all you need to do is pinpoint these processes.
Some apps in the play store can help, but some of these apps can consume battery also, so it's best to delete it after troubleshooting.
If your phone is working properly and your not a social media junkie while it sleeps it should not be using any battery at all, just enough to keep your processor awake.
I keep notifications are sync off on my phone, while I'm out and about I'll check email or do a quick sync if I want to check for some incoming whatever. Most of the time I want info on my terms, not every minute with chimes beeps or lights flashing.
If you use google maps disable background location reporting, location services just use "location and search " disable Wi-Fi and GPS usage for location services.
This is a start, but I recommend Jb ga10 stock/rooted to give your phone a stable os.
I run stock/rooted Jb de-bloated with minimal apps, no games (all the games I like are on my Galaxy Tab 10.1) I use my phone for calls........... navigation and media player while driving. I get 16 to 20 hrs on a charge.
Pp. :thumbup::beer:
Transmitted from another galaxy with a Jellybean infused P-5113 full of Unicorn porn.
I get about 20 hours on the Vanilla RootBox JB ROM. YMMV. I also had terrible battery life on the stock ROM and every other one I tried. This is the first ROM that's bested 10 hours. Again, YMMV.
what rom are you on? tw? cm?
Have you used Better Battery Stats? Or the JB release candidate GB08?
Not to raise the dead, I've just been busy, but this is still an issue for me. I upgraded to JB GB27, and I love the GUI, it’s such a step up from ICS. But I’m still getting **** for battery life. Yes if I use DS Battery Saver it works and I get good battery life. However all those programs cause flaky restart issues. The phone will just restart for no reason. More importantly it’s not getting at the root of the problem.
IRL I’m a computer tech and I can’t just let this go, as previously stated I’m tired of being shackled to the phone charger. I’ve swapped in a new battery, it’s not the battery. I even turned on the setting “Keep WiFi On > Only when plugged in”. That did improve the battery a little, but I still can’t make it through the day without being charged. I’m on the phone maybe combined 30min of phone calls, 30 min checking email, and an hour or so of miscellaneous watching video etc. I know heavy users that are on their phones all day, or let their kids watch Disney movies all night. I’m not that guy, I’ve had numerous cell phones and never have I had one that couldn’t hold a charge all day.
I will be diligent in monitoring this thread, please give me your troubleshooting tips and I’ll report back with the results.
Downlpaf betterbatterystats. And find the wakelocks.
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Can do, will let you know at the end of the day.
EDIT: Actually I read multiple issues with SG2 and BetterBatteryStats. However your wakelock comment made me stumble onto the app Wakelock Detector. Again I'll run it and report back. Thanks for the point in the right direction.
Ive noticed no better or worse battery between being rooted/custom rom and stock not rooted. However my phone gets about 16 hours on average. My friend has an epic as well and gets only 10 hours. I feel as though it depends on the user and apps. Facebook is a silent killer. As is any app that uses backround. Best setup ive had so far is billgeryans Quattro Rom with ds and greenify. I pulled a whopping 25 hour minimal use before charge and 13 hour heavy use day.....
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JayDroid412 said:
Facebook is a silent killer. As is any app that uses backround.
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So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
nim6us said:
So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
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Thats what I do. This was a heavy use day on stock not rooted gb27
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So how do you stop it? Do you just have to close out of every app before you set your phone down?
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exiting apps don't stop them. you can freeze and unfreeze them.
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exiting apps don't stop them. you can freeze and unfreeze them.
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How do you freeze them?
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How do you freeze them?
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With titanium backup. You can also install greenify. It puts your apps in hibernation when your screen is off. So basically it's like freezing and unfreezing. Tbh I think it's better using greenify.
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How do you freeze them?
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titanium can and you can create a widget to do it easily per app.
or
app-quarantine in playstore
or what I do:
shell commands usind connectbot widgets with a command like this:
pm disable-user com.facebook.katana
pm enable com.facebook.katana
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so my 2 cents:
1) get a second battery and charger.
2) betterbatterystats to identify "bad" apps and either get rid of them or deal with them.
3) "autostarts" app to stop crap from auto starting on boot that you don't need running as a service.
4) dim screen! huge huge savings. keep it dim enough to use the phone.
Battery issues well I have a solution that won't solve but greatly helps. It's called greenify. It puts all running apps in hibernate mode. It's not like a task killer that just screws things up. U can choose what u want to hibernate and all that jazzy stuff. It's worth a shot. All in all if you want a bada$$ battery efficient rom go with wcx stock rooted rom. It's simply amazing. Hope I was at help
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Check out greenify if you're rooted. It removes all currently unused apps and processes from memory, essentially putting them into deep sleep. That combined with ds battery saver and watching your wake locks will drastically improve battery life:beer:
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SASQUATCH said:
With titanium backup. You can also install greenify. It puts your apps in hibernation when your screen is off. So basically it's like freezing and unfreezing. Tbh I think it's better using greenify.
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Okay so does Greenify do this freeze automatically, the interface is a little clumsy. I appreciate all the help guys.