Root after Ota? - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

I have s off and I'm rooted in stock rom with cwm installed. Will accepting the ota get rid of root? S off? Will I be able to root afterwards if it does?
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Yes it will get rid of root...and you will not be able to root again most likely for a while. Stay where you are and wait for the upgraded Rom to be rooted and packaged for you to flash
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Thank you. Just saved me some grief
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Does anyone know where the ota downloads to? I can root it so people who have s-off can flash it, but not sure where it is downloading to. Checked in cache and its not going there.

cvo515 said:
Yes it will get rid of root...and you will not be able to root again most likely for a while. Stay where you are and wait for the upgraded Rom to be rooted and packaged for you to flash
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Nevermind, it self destructs if you cancel the update. How to get the zip, hmmm.

does the new update add much if i already have CM7 installed, or do i need to goto stock eventually, flash the new radios and stuff then go back to CM7? Kinda new to this and just trying to get everything right, thanks

Rmk40 just posted a Rom over in the development section that is pretty much the ota minus the bloat
Carelessly swyped on my phone so there may be some weird typos

kingsway8605 said:
Nevermind, it self destructs if you cancel the update. How to get the zip, hmmm.
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man after all the crap you said about root, you don't even deserve free root.

andybones said:
man after all the crap you said about root, you don't even deserve free root.
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glad i'm not the only one thinking it.

tspderek said:
glad i'm not the only one thinking it.
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I'm not one to bash on people either but I agree this guy could have ruined it for everyone. Thankfully alpha kept a better standard. Software root came quicker than it did for the DInc1 and the Inc2 WAS the most locked down phone known to Verizon. Impressive to say the least. Also credit to Raskal and XTC clip as he did need hardware. but I bet the guy could make software root, just makes more money on the clip lol. can't blame him though, it is worth it if it's the only option. IMO

ACD168 said:
I'm not one to bash on people either but I agree this guy could have ruined it for everyone. Thankfully alpha kept a better standard. Software root came quicker than it did for the DInc1 and the Inc2 WAS the most locked down phone known to Verizon. Impressive to say the least. Also credit to Raskal and XTC clip as he did need hardware. but I bet the guy could make software root, just makes more money on the clip lol. can't blame him though, it is worth it if it's the only option. IMO
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How exactly could he have ruined it for everyone by saying he didnt think root would be achieved? You think Alpha woulda gave up their attemtps in annoyance because he was the one naysayer? get real. people are entitled to their opinions and he disagreed and when perm root was achieved he mentioned how embarrassed he felt in multiple treads. I think he has been humiliated enough and we should all move on to enjoying root now...
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MJL99 said:
How exactly could he have ruined it for everyone by saying he didnt think root would be achieved? You think Alpha woulda gave up their attemtps in annoyance because he was the one naysayer? get real. people are entitled to their opinions and he disagreed and when perm root was achieved he mentioned how embarrassed he felt in multiple treads. I think he has been humiliated enough and we should all move on to enjoying root now...
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I wouldn't say I was humiliated. It really is just a phone. Did admit I was wrong about alpha rev though. If people hold a grudge over a phone, they really need a life, just saying.
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Need help rooting EVO

I just updated my EVO to 2.3.3 without knowing that unrevoked can't root it. I was just curious if anyone knows if there is any way to root the EVO with the most recent update? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Kire
You can't root or downgrade the OTA yet, you'll have to wait.
If you had to guess, how long will it take? I'm just really anxious to root my phone and put Cyanogen 6-7 on it lol.
In the same boat. Just got a replacement phone today.
It sucks, I just want to root my phone lol. I mean I love sense, don't get me wrong but I just like to completely customize my phone. As well as get more apps.
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I told the chick at best buy I didn't even want her to take mine out of the box. She tried to say she had to in order to activate it, but I told her no.
She didn't have a choice then.
That's funny. It's good you went to best buy, if you went to the actual sprint store they'd be like, um no. Lol.
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I got mine from the Sprint store and started talking indepth Android with the guy and confused him so much that he just handed me the box without opening it. Haha
so where is our root? I would like to know this> This is not acceptable.
I would like to know where our root is as well. It is quite unacceptable. It should have been done before or directly after the update was released.
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kiresocal said:
I would like to know where our root is as well. It is quite unacceptable. It should have been done before or directly after the update was released.
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I'm sorry, but this is what's unacceptable. It's not like you have some God given right to root your phone, and how dare someone not dedicate more of there time towards helping you, for free at that. I mean, what do you think is going to happen? A developer is going to read your post and think, "oh ****, he's irritated, I better get on the ball!"
Yeah, probably not. It's still a sweet phone, just relax and enjoy it. There's more than enough to do to keep you occupied.
kiresocal said:
I would like to know where our root is as well. It is quite unacceptable. It should have been done before or directly after the update was released.
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Be patient, it will happen...

Root help for gingerbread 2.3

I am a total noob, so please, be nice. I lost my phone and I was given a new one with this gingerbread 2.3 crap and unrevoked obviously doesn't work for this.
I see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110733
What the hell does that mean? And how can I get this damn thing rooted. I need like a step by step guide... Not just postings or links. I have no idea what to do. Can someone PLEASE help me!
There is not root method for 2.3 yet, not even temporary. The boot loader is also encrypted, so installing a new ROM is not possible.
The link you posted is a rooted version of the 2.3 ROM, but you mush have an unlocked boot loader to install it. Again, once 2.3 unrooted is installed there is no root method.
Is it ever going to be possible to root the phone?
Also, can I just go back to my old version? I was forced into this because I lost my phone.
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No bro you cant go to your old version
root will come soon as always devs and unrevked are working on it
snake411 said:
I need like a step by step guide... Not just postings or links. I have no idea what to do. Can someone PLEASE help me!
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Here's your guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204 But right now it is not possible. Notice at the top of the article it says when it was last updated. Just keep an eye on the thread and whenever it's updated you'll know you're probably onto something.
Just keep in mind in order to get it rooted and not screw up your phone, you will have to read a lot of posts and links. There's really no way around that... especially with brand new software versions.
Oh, and the link you posted isn't a way to root, it's just a ROM that you can try installing once you get your phone rooted.
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No bro you cant go to your old version
root will come soon as always devs and unrevked are working on it
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true story, i heard not til October but again they have other things to do. Had the same problem with my dad's evo. He updated.. so we our in the same boat.
yea cuz remember devs are also like u and me they have families and lives and jobs deving is donating their time
Fazulka said:
There is not root method for 2.3 yet, not even temporary. The boot loader is also encrypted, so installing a new ROM is not possible.
The link you posted is a rooted version of the 2.3 ROM, but you mush have an unlocked boot loader to install it. Again, once 2.3 unrooted is installed there is no root method.
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Bootloader isn't encrypted...we'd really be screwed then. It's just that it's locked, and they haven't found a new exploit yet. Keep in mind that these are security exploits that allow us to get root -- in principle, a bad thing that we want cleaned up, but we need them for root. In theory it's possible no exploits remain and they've plugged all holes, but that's quite doubtful. There's something, it just has to be found.
How many of these threads are people gonna start?
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yea cuz remember devs are also like u and me they have families and lives and jobs deving is donating their time
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Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.
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Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.
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I would not even call EVO 3D "Temp Root" yet. More like "Momentary Root". That thing is sure is locked down.
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Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.
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Evo 3D has a new version of Sense. New version of Sense means new security vulnerabilities. We have the same old version of Sense we've always had, and the known vulnerabilities have been patched. There just aren't as many opportunities on the Evo. The older a phone gets, the harder it becomes to root if they're patching the vulnerabilities.
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yea cuz remember devs are also like u and me they have families and lives and jobs deving is donating their time
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Exactly why we are so thankful for them. They do amazing work for all of us to enjoy.
I think the most frustrating thing of all are the people that involuntarily had their phones updated to the newest version. If it weren't for that, and the fact that there hasn't been a problem rooting since BEFORE the EVO was the officially released, patience is hard to come by.
I just happened to be one of those that happened to have this issue as well. I'm very upset because my app backups are inaccessible and this has taken much longer than I was originally willing to wait. I'm slowly hating my phone little by little...
mcwups1 said:
Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.
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TheZen said:
I think the most frustrating thing of all are the people that involuntarily had their phones updated to the newest version. If it weren't for that, and the fact that there hasn't been a problem rooting since BEFORE the EVO was the officially released, patience is hard to come by.
I just happened to be one of those that happened to have this issue as well. I'm very upset because my app backups are inaccessible and this has taken much longer than I was originally willing to wait. I'm slowly hating my phone little by little...
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Dude I gave up and traded in my evo for the evo 3d. The temp root is doing it fine for me.
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I still can't find a root, a friend of mine still has the evo4g, so do we have a solution?
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snake411 said:
I still can't find a root, a friend of mine still has the evo4g, so do we have a solution?
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no we dont but the evo 3D does now,but hopefully soon
snake411 said:
I still can't find a root, a friend of mine still has the evo4g, so do we have a solution?
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My friend if there was a solution you would not have to post in here did we find a solution. It would be all over XDA... come on now! This is the most anticipated thing in the Evo Forum
jjrizzelcincy said:
no we dont but the evo 3D does now,but hopefully soon
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You mean the temp one for the 3D right.?
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Can sprint techs do this...

well i recently received a refubed evo 4g with 2.3. my question is, can the techs at sprint downgrade my evo back to 2.2 or to a lower hboot ?
They may downgrade you to 2.2 if you complain about gingerbread..but if you ask about downgrading the hboot, I think it'll tip them off you're trying to root it / had it rooted before.
ok cool, funny thing is the techs at my sprint store have all there phone rooted LOL
call asurion and tell them the screen and battery is overheating and that you want a brand new evo and not a refurb, they will send it to you no charge.
crakerjaks said:
call asurion and tell them the screen and battery is overheating and that you want a brand new evo and not a refurb, they will send it to you no charge.
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They may or may not do that, but the new one could have GB on it too. So no point.
Right now they can't do it, unless Sprint/HTC give them a tool to do so. If they were to do so, it'd probably leak here pretty quick. My understanding is that they have the same RUU we do, which was specifically coded not to allow downgrading. That's no accident, by the way...they plugged the old root holes and didn't want to let people downgrade and root.
bkrodgers said:
They may or may not do that, but the new one could have GB on it too. So no point.
Right now they can't do it, unless Sprint/HTC give them a tool to do so. If they were to do so, it'd probably leak here pretty quick. My understanding is that they have the same RUU we do, which was specifically coded not to allow downgrading. That's no accident, by the way...they plugged the old root holes and didn't want to let people downgrade and root.
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didnt HTC say that they unlocked the bootloaders, why did they lock it up on hboot 2.16.0001 ?
ok first off no they cant backrev your phone, they can only replace it
also they no longer care if you are rooted
munesh23 said:
didnt HTC say that they unlocked the bootloaders, why did they lock it up on hboot 2.16.0001 ?
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I believe they have 30 days from the release, and I thought I saw the official release was like 26 June [or mid June] so they 'technically' still have time.
teh roxxorz said:
I believe they have 30 days from the release, and I thought I saw the official release was like 26 June [or mid June] so they 'technically' still have time.
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if thats so, then hopefully soon i can root my 2.3, i seriously hate my evo right now it so boring without root.
munesh23 said:
if thats so, then hopefully soon i can root my 2.3, i seriously hate my evo right now it so boring without root.
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The only good that will really come of that is the source, so they can start making custom kernels for GB, like synergy, kingdom, ect; but yes, bring on the root.
munesh23 said:
if thats so, then hopefully soon i can root my 2.3, i seriously hate my evo right now it so boring without root.
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I know this might not be what your looking for but there's a thread in the EVO Development section for a mod for un-rooted EVO's. Might give you something to tinker around with while you wait for root
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teh roxxorz said:
I believe they have 30 days from the release, and I thought I saw the official release was like 26 June [or mid June] so they 'technically' still have time.
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No, that's how long they are supposed to have to release the kernel source code to comply with GPL.
As far as unlocking bootloaders, HTC said they were changing their policy, but haven't made commitments to how soon it will happen or how whether it'll apply to current devices.
I'm also not totally convinced that the carriers won't try and succeed in vetoing this new policy. Granted, they've allowed the Nexus, but they haven't promoted that device either. Hopefully they will get the message though and not stand in the way.
if a sprint store can downgrade a phone. why can't we do it as easily? I want to know exactly how they do it so we can spread the word. :-D
runcool said:
if a sprint store can downgrade a phone. why can't we do it as easily? I want to know exactly how they do it so we can spread the word. :-D
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They can't do it.
bkrodgers said:
I'm also not totally convinced that the carriers won't try and succeed in vetoing this new policy. Granted, they've allowed the Nexus, but they haven't promoted that device either. Hopefully they will get the message though and not stand in the way.
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Sprint has been running commercials for the NS4G like crazy.
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thank you for this
munesh23 said:
didnt HTC say that they unlocked the bootloaders, why did they lock it up on hboot 2.16.0001 ?
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The bootloader on the EVO has never been unlocked.
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Sprint tech here, we can not revert phones back to 2.2 our RUU does not allow this. Lol I tried on a buyback yesterday, no dice. You shouldn't have taken the update, sorry.
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dgomez720 said:
Sprint tech here, we can not revert phones back to 2.2 our RUU does not allow this. Lol I tried on a buyback yesterday, no dice. You shouldn't have taken the update, sorry.
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well i had to replace my phone and it came with 2.3, i would never take an OTA.
dgomez720 said:
Sprint tech here, we can not revert phones back to 2.2 our RUU does not allow this. Lol I tried on a buyback yesterday, no dice. You shouldn't have taken the update, sorry.
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Seconded. The only way to rollback 2.3 is to remove the chips and force flash them via a programmer. I have done this ONCE just to see if it could be done. To be honest, no customer would ever pay the cost of having it done and even if they would I can't tie up the service center that long for one customer.

Best way

Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
JRngln said:
Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
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You're gonna wanna downgrade and s-off. It's easier to flash ROMs, also you can flash radios that way. It's a slightly longer process to do so, but its worth not spending extra time when flashing ROMs. Mainly because you have to flash the kernel in fastboot if you use HTC unlock.
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
JRngln said:
Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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tylerlawhon said:
As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
JRngln said:
My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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Yes I have the latest.1111 with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, kernel 2.6.35.9, it downgrades more than just the hboot doesn't it? I thought it downgraded the whole OS.
It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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Yes I've heard about that kernel, I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root. I thought htc unlock still gave you a warranty although more limitted. And yes I learned from the Eris when the phone is on the charger be extra extra carefull with it, even if it meens don't touch it.
Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
JRngln said:
I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
Zax_Was_Here said:
Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
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Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
JRngln said:
Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
nitsuj17 said:
verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
JRngln said:
I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
nitsuj17 said:
as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
JRngln said:
I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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idk, doesnt really affect me...but the Sprint guys were all up in arms about it...mabye if i had a phone that it was an issue on id care more
Anyways, I flashed a custom ROM and CIQ would be gone anyways. I think nowadays we have to realize that we are going to always be tracked in some way.
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I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root.
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Yep, I checked, it appears you did say that, but anyways... things are easier with the s off alpha rev x method but the other way will work too so whatever floats your boat...
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Does CM11 Require S-Off or Root?

I already asked this in the newbie thread but they sent me here...
I'm getting confused after reading countless threads regarding root, s-off, and 4.4.2 so I'll keep my question brief:
Can I get CM11 on my HTC One (Verizon)? I have a stock phone with 4.4.2, not rooted, and s-on. I know s-off cannot be achieved due to root being unavailable at this time. Is there another method to get a custom ROM onto the phone?
cartisdm said:
I already asked this in the newbie thread but they sent me here...
I'm getting confused after reading countless threads regarding root, s-off, and 4.4.2 so I'll keep my question brief:
Can I get CM11 on my HTC One (Verizon)? I have a stock phone with 4.4.2, not rooted, and s-on. I know s-off cannot be achieved due to root being unavailable at this time. Is there another method to get a custom ROM onto the phone?
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You're kind of in a waiting game right now. Sounds like Mobile Tech Videos can get you S-Off...for $75. Beaups has been quiet for awhile, I would assume he's working on an exploit though.
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brholt6 said:
You're kind of in a waiting game right now. Sounds like Mobile Tech Videos can get you S-Off...for $75. Beaups has been quiet for awhile, I would assume he's working on an exploit though.
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Ok, I kind of figured that was going to be the answer. I wasn't sure if there was some sort of side loading method floating around that I missed. I'm definitely not paying $75 for root. Does the java card method that only costs $25 not work? I'd be willing to pay that but not much more...
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Ok, I kind of figured that was going to be the answer. I wasn't sure if there was some sort of side loading method floating around that I missed. I'm definitely not paying $75 for root. Does the java card method that only costs $25 not work? I'd be willing to pay that but not much more...
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I believe it would, but I don't think anyone has successfully gotten a hold of Sonic. I tried back when 4.3 wasn't able to be cracked and Ive never heard back.
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There is talk of a guy that says he has an exploit for 4.4.2 but he isn't willing to release it till August. People has linked his twitter where he has talked about it. I know it does no one any good from now till then and I am sire we will get more updates by then and could patch his exploit. So basically a waiting game for people that has 4.4.2. Not Mich else you can do. Worse case scenario is not to take any ota till August and hope the guy releases it.
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Dark Jedi said:
There is talk of a guy that says he has an exploit for 4.4.2 but he isn't willing to release it till August. People has linked his twitter where he has talked about it. I know it does no one any good from now till then and I am sire we will get more updates by then and could patch his exploit. So basically a waiting game for people that has 4.4.2. Not Mich else you can do. Worse case scenario is not to take any ota till August and hope the guy releases it.
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Yeah I've been following those threads. Let's just hope someone else finds a way to root the darn thing. I'm so pissed at myself that I took the update without thinking about it. The phone works fine without a custom ROM but I just installed an appradio in my car and I want full mirroring. ARUnchained requires root to work....ugh
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Yeah I've been following those threads. Let's just hope someone else finds a way to root the darn thing. I'm so pissed at myself that I took the update without thinking about it. The phone works fine without a custom ROM but I just installed an appradio in my car and I want full mirroring. ARUnchained requires root to work....ugh
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Trust me most of us are waiting and are on the same boat. I can't wait to put cm11 on my work Verizon phone because the battery life is so horrible and I actually do use the phone for work. On a normal work day from 10-8pm I usually have to plug it up to charge by 1-2pm :-/

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