Vehicle dock charging cable. - Atrix 4G Accessories

I've just watched this video...
http://youtube/fCBFdNMhCCw
If you look at the charging cable for it, it has a 3.5mm headphone jack (so that it can be plugged into the aux in on a stereo)
Is there any way to buy just this cable so we can have audio over usb? Or even a way to hack one together DIY style?
Thanks.

The-Milkybar-Kid said:
I've just watched this video...
http://youtube/fCBFdNMhCCw
If you look at the charging cable for it, it has a 3.5mm headphone jack (so that it can be plugged into the aux in on a stereo)
Is there any way to buy just this cable so we can have audio over usb? Or even a way to hack one together DIY style?
Thanks.
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Have you tried plugging usb in from the charging cable to see if you can put into mass storage mode and read files like a thumb drive? I would check that first.

That would probably work but I just have never seen a cable with the 3.5mm jack built in. I don't have my atrix yet, just doing some research into different things.
Should have it by late next week

The-Milkybar-Kid said:
That would probably work but I just have never seen a cable with the 3.5mm jack built in. I don't have my atrix yet, just doing some research into different things.
Should have it by late next week
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Yeah, just so there's one cable coming down for charging and audio aux. Unfortunately, I don't see a way for a stereo or processor to read the phone properly until Harman's Google Open Protocol project gets into the market.

I have the dock/cable
One cable goes into the dock which the usb on the phone plugs into.
The HP jack comes out of the other end to connect to the AUX input in the car.
There are two labels on the cable, one says not to plug directly into the phone on the mini usb end and the other says not to plug into a PC (both in pictures)

I have the car dock and the usb cable supplied with the 3.5 mm does not work as a sync cable.
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It's a dock dependent cable. Great question and perhaps abthird party will step up and manufacture a micro USB charging/ audio combo cable that can be used without seperate dock. Alternatively, contact your local rocket scientist. Lol! Actually, the multimedia dock does exactly the same thing, presenting an audio out jack.
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But in the multimedia dock, I would assume that audio is coming through HDMI. This dock is much different than laptop dock and multimedia dock just because it conencts with phone only over USB but still gives an audio plug at the other end.
Also, I would assume that audio streaming is built into the cable and not in the dock because cable connecting to the dock is just a USB connector.
Now if audio is flowing through USB cable, the only question is if it can be played without using accompanied 3.5 mm audio jack?
To get to bottom of this question, it would require some USB debugging expertise which I dont have. Can anyone check with devs in forum?

There is no way audio is coming through HDMI because there is no HDMI port.
The car dock does something with the atrix where the atrix turns the USB port into analogue audio out/power. It's pretty much replacing data with audio out.
It specifically says on the cable to not plug into a computer, because the wires do not go where they are normally supposed to go (since it splits)

Mgamerz said:
There is no way audio is coming through HDMI because there is no HDMI port.
The car dock does something with the atrix where the atrix turns the USB port into analogue audio out/power. It's pretty much replacing data with audio out.
It specifically says on the cable to not plug into a computer, because the wires do not go where they are normally supposed to go (since it splits)
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I have no reason to believe that the multimedia dock (not to be confused with the HD dock) and the car dock are any different in how the micro USB connector interacts with the phone. One thing that we do know is that the micro USB connector on the car dock is expecting a special cable. It literally states not to connect the car dock wire directly to the phone. Anyway, the bottom line is why does it matter, the key is that Moto engineered a product that will charge and output audio using a single connector. The car dock wire has the 3.5 mm audio out. The multimedia dock has the 3.5 mm audio out on the back... All appears to be the same to me. One thing worth noting is that the multimedia dock will not interface with a PC. I read a post that described the connection type, but can't remember what it was.

Im not sure how the he dock works, but the webtop hack has sound. If the he dock is just webtop/hd sharing, then yes, its hdmi. Charging via the usb port. But I don't own those docks, only the car dock, so im not sure.
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Mgamerz said:
Im not sure how the he dock works, but the webtop hack has sound. If the he dock is just webtop/hd sharing, then yes, its hdmi. Charging via the usb port. But I don't own those docks, only the car dock, so im not sure.
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The HDMI port is for video with audio only and used for the HD dock, lap dock and webtop hack. The micro USB port is used by the HD dock and lapdock to provide USB hub like functionality to the dock as well as a mechanism for charging the phone. This USB hub like functionality is the basis for the lapdock keyboard/track pad and HD dock wired USB keyboard and mouse. A Bluetooth keyboard/mouse can be substituted I believe, connecting via the phone's built in Bluetooth. The multimedia dock and car dock do not provide computer USB type connection capabilities, and NO video capabilites, as the HDMI connection is abscent. Instead they will charge the phone AND provide connectivity for analog audio out and that is it. The webtop hack is just a way of activating HDMIfeatures that are normally only triggered in the HD dock or lapdock.

Yes... I knew all of that... just too lazy to type that...
so... that doesn't really lead us anywhere?
I don't think you can use the vehicle dock cable with the phone directly unless someone reverse engineers the car dock.

Mgamerz said:
Yes... I knew all of that... just too lazy to type that...
so... that doesn't really lead us anywhere?
I don't think you can use the vehicle dock cable with the phone directly unless someone reverse engineers the car dock.
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Yeah, I guesses you probably did, but then a noob comes along and decides 1+1=8.
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TV out

I did a search and didn't see anything about this, so I'll post my question.
Has anyone gotten this to work? I plugged in my a/v cable (3.5mm to RCA) into the adapter that came with the TP2, and it into the TP2 usb port, then connected the RCA ends to my TV and when I tried to start the TV out under settings, it said I needed the TV Out cable.
I couldn't find anything in the provided documentation about this (surprise). I don't have the HTC cable, nor do I have the iphone/ipod cable, but I can't believe that this one would be any different from the icrap one, it's a freaking standard.
Any one?
The video out is actually the usb port. You need to buy a cable that is usb to composite
If your cable is iPod compatible, you should be able to install this get TV Out to work.
this is what i bought and it works great with my sprint tp2 http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=179148
I dont understand what you mean by iPod compatible?
Dont I need HTC's special USB video cable? Does anybody have a wireing schematic on that so I can make one? I have a million 3.5mm to rca cables lying around but that wont work...
MustangChris04 said:
I dont understand what you mean by iPod compatible?
Dont I need HTC's special USB video cable? Does anybody have a wireing schematic on that so I can make one? I have a million 3.5mm to rca cables lying around but that wont work...
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From my understanding (my tilt2 hasn't come yet, so I can't confirm) you should have an adapter that comes with your device that converts the ext-USB into a 3.5 mm headphone jack. You can plug an HTC 3.5mm to RCA cable in that jack, or put an iPod compatible RCA cable (uses the same pinouts as HTC's cable and is essentially identical, but cheaper) and change HKLM\Software\HTC\H2W\TVOutCableIn to "1" in the registry in order to get it working. The software I linked to should do this automatically, so you don't have to do that each time. However, I don't know if this works on the TP2 since I don't have mine yet.
My touch pro 2 didnt come with that. I actually have a usb jack, and a 3.5mm headphone jack on the bottom. It is the Verizon version.
Ok, I followed the instructions on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CLPjcImHAg&feature=fvw
I did both reg hack changing 0 to 1, as well as trying the icon under settings. The reg hack did bring up the screen, but nothing was outputted to the TV. I can't believe my 3.5mm -> RCA cable is any different than an "ipod compatible" one, it has the 4 bands on the 3.5mm jack and 3 RCAs for audio (l/r) and video. Is there something I'm missing? I don't want to buy the HTC usb/rca cable, and would be pretty upset if I got it and it still didn't work.
i tried it with my camcorder cable and the extusb adapter supplied with my phone. no luck. my camcorder cable only has 3 bands. does this make a difference? i have literally hundreds of cables. i'll have to search and try out a few others. or i'll just buy the official one on ebay if necessary.
I attempted this tonite. Did not work.
Sprint TP2
Apple iBook AV cable - 3.5mm -> 3way RCA yel, red, white
HTC EXTusb adapter.
tried 2 different cabs (enabletvout.cab and nuetvout-102-v1) as well as just changing the reg value to 1.
tried changing around the rca cables to the video input on tv..
I was able to get the tv out options to display on the phone, but NOTHING ever went out to the TV.
I hear people are having success with the oficial HTC tp2 tv out cable, which is a miniUSB -> 3 way rca.
Any success using the 3.5mm jack on a sprint tp2 ?
I had some luck with a cable I had but found that I needed to use the Red RCA as my video and the Yellow and White as audio.
JudgeDredd67 said:
I had some luck with a cable I had but found that I needed to use the Red RCA as my video and the Yellow and White as audio.
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i was all excited but that didnt work for me.
I had to purchase the extusb to av jack like this one.
AV Cable Works great.
You don't need to install the TV out cab. It will auto pop up when the cable is inserted. Most roms have this built in. The Tilt 2 stock rom does.
I used the original HTC OEM multi adapter with my 3.5mm RCA cable after prying it open and cutting the blue cable, which enables Tv out on my Tilt 2, but disables headphone use which is why im putting a switch in there.
well, I purchased the USB to video output cable and it workd fine.. HOWEVER only certain program work.. for instance, I wanted to see if I could watch sprint TV using the TV out and it tells me it can not run wth tv out. is there any way to do this??
Do a search on PPCGeeks.com forums for "How did you get the tv out/video out to work on the touch pro 2." I had to remove/cut the blue wire from the multi-adapter which came w/ my TP2. Hook up a standard 3.5mm jack to composite cable that came with my camcorder. Then I was able to get audio and video working on my 47" TV. No other software was required. The only thing is, you have to swap the yellow cable with the red. Red now provides the video signal. Otherwise, everything else works great.
Credit goes to the original poster in PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link to the instructions, but since I'm still new on this site, my posting privileges are still limited. Good luck everyone. I hope this was the answer you were looking for.
What are we all talking about? on my TP2 (SPRINT) I bought a cable for video and audio output that has USB on one end and RCA plugs on the other end. I just plug it into the USB port of the TP2 and hook up the RCA to my TV. It also has a port for plugging in the charger while the video out cable is plugged it...
dahauss said:
What are we all talking about? on my TP2 (SPRINT) I bought a cable for video and audio output that has USB on one end and RCA plugs on the other end. I just plug it into the USB port of the TP2 and hook up the RCA to my TV. It also has a port for plugging in the charger while the video out cable is plugged it...
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This is another option for those who do not wish to purchase the $20 - $25 USB to composite cables for the video outputs. Most of us received the USB multi-port device with our TP2. But by just cutting the blue wire from that device, you can have video output with a standard 3.5mm to composite cable (Red, white, yellow). Some of us may have this cable lying around the house. It usually comes with camcorders. If not, many places sell these standard cables for about $2 to $5. It's just information for those who wish to spend as little money as possible. That's all. Good luck.
All the video cables I find have the regular mini usb data cable port and not the different HTC mini usb port. Are there video cables with the HTC usb port?
To clarify, the part that plugs into the phone is the HTC plug, but the plug for the charger midway down the cable is the plug I'm referring to. Where can I find one with the HTC usb plug instead of the mini usb?
Mossesman said:
This is another option for those who do not wish to purchase the $20 - $25 USB to composite cables for the video outputs. Most of us received the USB multi-port device with our TP2. But by just cutting the blue wire from that device, you can have video output with a standard 3.5mm to composite cable (Red, white, yellow). Some of us may have this cable lying around the house. It usually comes with camcorders. If not, many places sell these standard cables for about $2 to $5. It's just information for those who wish to spend as little money as possible. That's all. Good luck.
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I cannot find a USB to composite cable anywhere on the net. I don't think that it would even work with the TP2 video out capabilities.

USB adapter with audio port?

I have an adapter for my Hero that plugs into the USB port on the phone and has an audio port on the adapter. This lets me plug it into my car without running a second wire from the top 3.5mm port. Does the EVO have something similar?
jcorey said:
I have an adapter for my Hero that plugs into the USB port on the phone and has an audio port on the adapter. This lets me plug it into my car without running a second wire from the top 3.5mm port. Does the EVO have something similar?
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Plug it into the EVO and see if it works... Micro USB on both right? Any associated software should run on EVO also unless it doesn't like Froyo.
the hero and the evo have different usb plugs the hero is a mini and the evo is a micro i wish they were both mini personally i like it better.
The evo doesnt support audio out from the usb port, you have to use the headphone port.
The Hero, Touch Pro 2, and perhaps some other HTC phones used a modified mini USB port called mini EXT-USB. It had a few extra pins in it for audio. Straight up mini USB didn't support audio output either. With the switch to micro-usb, they've gone with straight up micro USB. There's no audio output there.
As much as I hate Apple with all their proprietary stuff (among other issues), the dock connector does allow some useful functions that USB can't.
Though if the Bluetooth A2DP profile on the Evo didn't sound like absolute **** (aside from CM), it'd be a nice way to stick with one cable if you need to charge, and none if you don't.

[Q] Why doesn't the standard dock have HDMI out?

I just received notification that my pre-ordered speaker dock has been shipped out. Hopefully I'll get it tomorrow to play with on the weekend.
I plan to put the speaker dock in the kitchen to use as a clock radio-esque type device (with the ability to do other fun Xoom stuff).
After reading a little bit more about the speaker dock I noticed that it has an HDMI out port. Form the picture on the Moto website it looks like a standard HDMI port and not the mini one that's one the actual xoom.
What I'm curious about though is whether the standard dock also has this port. I'm OK shelling out another $50 for another dock I can put near my TV. I don't quite understand why only the speaker version would have one (but I guess if you want to connect it to a monitor with HDMI in) but connecting it to the TV/Receiver you typically already have a better sound system so having HDMI out on the standard dock at least makes sense.
tldr; Does the Xoom speaker dock come with a standard sized HDMI out port? Does anyone know if the Xoom standard dock comes with an HDMI out port?
The HD speaker dock has a micro HDMI on the back. Its the same connection that the xoom itself has. The regular charging dock does not have a HDMI plug at all. The stupid part is that the sound is routes through HDMI when plugged into a monitor or TV. I have a monitor without built in speakers so no sound plays when I plug it in. I have to plug a 3.5mm headphone adapter into my speakers to get sound.
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xmellyx said:
The HD speaker dock has a micro HDMI on the back. Its the same connection that the xoom itself has. The regular charging dock does not have a HDMI plug at all. The stupid part is that the sound is routes through HDMI when plugged into a monitor or TV. I have a monitor without built in speakers so no sound plays when I plug it in. I have to plug a 3.5mm headphone adapter into my speakers to get sound.
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Motorola said that there is no sound through HDMI on the xoom, but only on the speaker dock.
Sad seeing them do a last second money grab on their product
BlackDino said:
Motorola said that there is no sound through HDMI on the xoom, but only on the speaker dock.
Sad seeing them do a last second money grab on their product
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I run a hdmi stright form the xoom to my Tv and i have sound.
Just-in-time said:
I run a hdmi stright form the xoom to my Tv and i have sound.
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same here!
BlackDino said:
Motorola said that there is no sound through HDMI on the xoom, but only on the speaker dock.
Sad seeing them do a last second money grab on their product
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There is. I connected my Xoom to my monitor, and all the sound went through my monitors speakers.
interesting, I must of been misinformed.
Well that's a plus, can't wait for my micro hdmi to come in
xmellyx said:
The stupid part is that the sound is routes through HDMI when plugged into a monitor or TV.
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That's how HDMI works, it transfers HD video and sound on the one cable.
How much does an HDMI cable cost?
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Depends on a lot of things, where you buy, how long, etc.
If you go to your local Best Buy you will spend $30+ for a short cable.
I have purchased them from monoprice.com for $7 for a 15' cable. Works great.

Multifunction Adapter

Does anyone know if this adapter would work with the GN?
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Multifunction-Adapter-T-Mobile-Shadow/dp/B001QD3MQE/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header
I want to have the phone output audio while being simultaneously being charged.
I would love to have the official car dock, but it is nowhere to be found (yet).
No. It will not.
Why not just plug something into the headphone port and the power into the USB cable like you are supposed to do?
I'm looking for something simple. Just drop it on a dock and go.
IPhones have countless docks, my pre has the touchstone.
I suppose I could just connect through Bluetooth for audio and plug in a charging cable in the meantime until that GSM car dock comes out.
staticx57 said:
No. It will not.
Why not just plug something into the headphone port and the power into the USB cable like you are supposed to do?
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Why won't it work? I have been looking for something exactly like this to make a custom portrait desktop dock that has audio out. The problem is the headphone jack is on the bottom and covered when in this position... any suggestions on what I could use for this situation?
*edit* Looks like it isnt a micro usb so it definitely wouldnt work then...curious though, does anything like this exist that would work with gnex?
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There's no way for it to work on a Samsung phone because those old mini USB slots on those HTC phones are proprietary 11-pin ExtUSB ports. Normal USB mini/micro only has 5 pins. HTC wanted to be cool and add extra pins to the USB port so that they wouldn't have to add a headphone jack to the phone. To my understanding, this was unpopular because you had to buy extra hardware just to get a headset working.

can micro usb send audio out ?

For my in car solution, previously I used a brodit Active dock which you could plug an iphone cable into the bottom of, that cable I used previously for iphone was one iphone port in, but had an audio out as well as usb charge cable, so I was able to jack into my cars 3.5 Audio port and the other end into a usb cigarette port adapter, it was commonly referred to as a Y Cable.
I am looking to do similar from the Brodit Active HTC One X dock once its released, and ideally use one cable that plugs into the docks micro usb port (which the HTC One X plugs into in the dock).
So, a) does the micro usb port on the phone support sending the audio out ? and b) if so, does anyone know of a cable that will split out to an audio and usb end such as I described above..
Thanks for any help anyone can offer.
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to give some context, I used a cable like this one for the iphone and active brodit dock before..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Coope...s_Adapters&hash=item4d010007e2#ht_2628wt_1378
I cannot seem to find anything similar for micro usb.
mgdew said:
to give some context, I used a cable like this one for the iphone and active brodit dock before..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Coope...s_Adapters&hash=item4d010007e2#ht_2628wt_1378
I cannot seem to find anything similar for micro usb.
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It should be able to
http://www.expansys.com/expansys-usb-cradle-with-hdmi-out-for-htc-one-x-231980/
The USB does HDMI which carries audio. Someone with more knowledge will be along soon I imagine though, they'll be able to point you where you need to be!
thanks for the hdmi headsup.
Anyone else able to offer a solution ?
HDMI is digital though, so to use with a standard 3.5mm Aux you will need a digital to analogue converter. Assuming it cant switch to analogue... its a bit up in the air at the moment, need to wait for a few devices to hit the shops :/
All you need is-
Micro Sd to car adaptor for power.
3.5 jack to 3.5 from phone to stereos aux in.
You can call, use sat nav whilst listening to music.
Will mute music for ditections, phone call whateva!
You can also make a cable and connect them to the pins on the back that are used for a dock.
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Thanks for the replies. I already have two separate cables wires in for aux and for usb, but I wanted to try and have only one cable so I could literally attach one and not have to plug both in and out, hence the year cable idea of
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I just use bluetooth
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