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Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
please need some quick advice before i root
evilcuber said:
Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
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Installing eng hboot is not needed if you want to root but it is a good idea to have because
it will let you use fastboot commands ,lets say for any reason your recovery fail,you will
have the option to recover your phone through fastboot ,also you will need it if you want
to try different radios. However, if you want to install eng hboot ,you must be very carefull
when doing so otherwise you could brick your phone. make sure you follow every step and make sure that you are installing the the right one .(g2 and desire z have specific hboots).
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
evilcuber said:
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
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since you live in canada i assume you have a desire z not a g2 so you do not have to change your hboot for unity ,i didnt say you are more likely to brick your phone if you install eng hboot ,i said it is a good idea to install eng hboot so if for any reason your recovery fails you will have
an option to use fastboot and fix your phone, and then i said be very carefull when installing hboot and make sure you install the right hboot because g2 and desire z partition sizes are different so make sure if you have a desire z you are installing the one for desire z not the one that is for the g2. and make sure you type in the commands exactly like it said in the wiki .
(also seems like the wiki has changed since i was doing this, because i remember installing eng hboot was marked
as optional in the wiki before but now everything is different so you might actually need the eng boot now, i am not %100 sure i would wait for someone else to confirm what i said.)
Thanks for your help, i successfully rooted my htc desire z
@evilcuber May I use your thread to ask an additional question regarding hboot ?
I rooted my French DZ some times ago, I followed a tutorial from cyanogenmod wiki, most probably this one (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting) but I do not remember flashing an engineering hboot.
As I would like to install Unity, I have to check my phone runs the right hboot. Here is the information I have :
Thanks for your help !
I think that as long as you have a DZ and not a G2, your hboot should be fine
Sorry for asking this but I come from Desire HD and things seem more straight forward there in regards to root and custom roms.
I see that WFS is rootable but then S-OFF has not been broken yet. What's the difference with XTC-Clip then?
From what I understood, the only way to root WFS is XTC-CLIP which allows you to have root access, install custom ROM and recovery but it will not allow you to install radio and kernel? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My main requirement is to be able to install apps on sd and use apps like titanium backup to freeze/remove bloatware. What do I need for this?
I see that I can upgrade to latest 2.3.5 since it's not available for my region. If I do so, will it still be rootable or I will lose this and then need to downgrade like with DHD?
Again I apologise for asking all these but you see I follow a complete forum on DesireHD and I don't have time reading here as well. I want to complete this as fast as possible for my wife.
EDIT: Oh now I see, XTC-Clip is hardware. So apart from using this, WFS is non-rootable unless S-Off is achieved?
andreasy said:
Sorry for asking this but I come from Desire HD and things seem more straight forward there in regards to root and custom roms.
I see that WFS is rootable but then S-OFF has not been broken yet. What's the difference with XTC-Clip then?
From what I understood, the only way to root WFS is XTC-CLIP which allows you to have root access, install custom ROM and recovery but it will not allow you to install radio and kernel? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My main requirement is to be able to install apps on sd and use apps like titanium backup to freeze/remove bloatware. What do I need for this?
I see that I can upgrade to latest 2.3.5 since it's not available for my region. If I do so, will it still be rootable or I will lose this and then need to downgrade like with DHD?
Again I apologise for asking all these but you see I follow a complete forum on DesireHD and I don't have time reading here as well. I want to complete this as fast as possible for my wife.
EDIT: Oh now I see, XTC-Clip is hardware. So apart from using this, WFS is non-rootable unless S-Off is achieved?
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If you make your phone s-off with the XTC clip you can root your phone or flash anything you want..
You have to be s-off to remove bloatware by HTC.
You can upgrade to 2.3.5 and it will still be rootable if you s-off it..
Thanks. However, I'll need to buy that clip which I don't intend to right now so for me, it's not rootable until S-OFF is managed. Correct?
But there's a temproot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916 here..
You can find a shop near you that has the clip and unlock it.
Hello
I've been asked by my dad to root his HTC Desire, to remove bloat and make it faster and last longer, etc etc.
But i've run into some problems. (Let me just say i'm not a complete noob at rooting, i've rooted Desire HD, EVO 3D and a Prime tablet before, and flashed roms etc etc)
I've successfully downgraded it from Android 2.2 with HBOOT 1.02 (i think thats the one) to Android 2.1 with HBOOT 0.80. And i've succesfully rooted it.
Now i want to S-OFF the device, but Revolutionary doesn't support the HBOOT 0.80, it requires 0.93 or 1.02.
I've also read about the AlphaRev S-OFF method, but thats super old and it even says to use Revolutionary.
My end plan is to install LeeDroid rom (My dad wants to keep HTC Sense, but want it fast, and LeeDroid was the best rom i could find for this, or is there something better?).
In LeeDroid it also says it needs to create a ext-3 partition with ROM Manager, but i can't even find ROM Manager on the market, is that because of the fact that i'm currently running android 2.1, or?
I hope some good people out here can help me with my problems
- Moon
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First off: Don't use "bump" posts after just 10 hours. This is not "Instant Help".
Alpharev may be old, but works fine.
Don't even think about using ROM Manager, it will break your phone. Create the ext partition with gparted.
I don't know about Sense Roms, but i think you can use just any. Depends on which version you prefer. Best for performance and battery life should be the lower ones, like LeeDroid.
muellersmattes said:
First off: Don't use "bump" posts after just 10 hours. This is not "Instant Help".
Alpharev may be old, but works fine.
Don't even think about using ROM Manager, it will break your phone. Create the ext partition with gparted.
I don't know about Sense Roms, but i think you can use just any. Depends on which version you prefer. Best for performance and battery life should be the lower ones, like LeeDroid.
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I quote everything.
I have S-OFFed my Desire with Alpharev and encountered no problem at all.
a) use alpharev
b) upgrade to 2.3 ruu and use revolutionary
c) rtfm made by Bortak
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Revolutionary would be the easiest option. A few clicks and your phone is rooted, S-off and has clockworkmod recovery.
Moonbloom said:
Now i want to S-OFF the device, but Revolutionary doesn't support the HBOOT 0.80, it requires 0.93 or 1.02.
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sj44k13 said:
Revolutionary would be the easiest option. A few clicks and your phone is rooted, S-off and has clockworkmod recovery.
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Really? Even OP knows this.....
Like many other Desire owners, I'm getting the dreaded 'Low on space' / 'Insufficient Memory' notifications on my phone. I've already tried transferring as many apps to the SD card as possible but I'm still left with just 13MB of memory. I've also cleared the internet browser cache.
What options have I got? Is there a way of getting more memory without rooting the phone? Are there different rooting methods? Which ROM should I install?
I'm running Android version 2.29.405.5 if it makes any difference.
Thanks
going s-off and rooted is probably the best way to go to get the most out of ur phone. click the "Desire - All Things Root" on my sig for more info. if ur up for it then post ur bootloader info. turn off ur phone then hold volume down + power. then tell us what does it say? pvt?? hboot ?? etc etc
and im sure every1 + me here will help u as best as they can
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
going s-off and rooted is probably the best way to go to get the most out of ur phone. click the "Desire - All Things Root" on my sig for more info. if ur up for it then post ur bootloader info. turn off ur phone then hold volume down + power. then tell us what does it say? pvt?? hboot ?? etc etc
and im sure every1 + me here will help u as best as they can
Sent from my HTC Desire
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So are these the stages I have to go through?
1. Backup
2. Change phone to s-off
3. Root phone
4. Install ROM
5. Restore
This is my bootloader info:
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
Microp-031D
Touch Panel-Synt0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
http://revolutionary.io/
go here follow instructions, download the revolutionay file, fill in the dropdown boxes, htc desire, 0.93xxx and s/n to generate beta key. then plug in ur phone (usb) and run the revolutionary program u downloaded, it will ask u to type in the beta key u got, type it or copy/paste then hit enter. it will ask u to install CWM recovery, type y. and then let it do its thing. before all this make sure u have all the drivers installed on ur computer for ur phone.
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How do I know what drivers I need and where do I get them from? Will my phone have Android installed and be ready to use after I install the revolutionary file or is that just to s-off it?
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...ff-root-htc-desire-revolutionary-updated.html
like i said in my first post read the guide, everything u need is there. also download HTC sync then uninstall HTC sync ONLY, leaving the drivers on ur computer, also what u could do is when u run the HTC sync setup just cancel it once the drivers are installed.
Sent from my HTC Desire
you're lucky with 0.93 hboot.
Do I have to do anything to my SD card before I start the S-Off / Rooting processes? Format it? Partition it? I currently have some apps, documents and photos on it.
lambada24 said:
Do I have to do anything to my SD card before I start the S-Off / Rooting processes? Format it? Partition it? I currently have some apps, documents and photos on it.
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u will only have to partition ur sdcard when u install a custom rom, then u will have to backup ur apps and things coz it will erase everything. revolutionary is only to s-off ur phone. make sure u read up about everything first before doing anything, u dont have to understand absolutley everything but atleast have an idea and understand the risks.
Sent from my HTC Desire
i've read evertyhing and i'm still lost...wish someone could write step by step.
1. do this (in case of)
2. do that (be careful about)
3. do this
4. do that
like this for total n00bs
kmetek said:
i've read evertyhing and i'm still lost...wish someone could write step by step.
1. do this (in case of)
2. do that (be careful about)
3. do this
4. do that
like this for total n00bs
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if u click the Desire - All Things Root in my sig everything is there. read the FAQ sections aswell, it explains alot. and if u still cant understand anything or work out what u need to do then maybe s-off & rooted aint for u
Sent from my HTC Desire
kmetek said:
i've read evertyhing and i'm still lost...wish someone could write step by step.
1. do this (in case of)
2. do that (be careful about)
3. do this
4. do that
like this for total n00bs
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My fellow noob! ( )
I was in same position as you before few days, this pro guys don't like to write steps, they point to guides and then you need to read ALOT to get picture of what is all needed, but luckily for you I am here to help lol
First to say some things about it...
1. We will S-OFF your phone (doesnt matter what S-OFF means)
2. Root phone
3. Modify your official ROM you got on phone (I presume its 2.2.2 as latest official android for Desire)
4. You will have free space
I will EDIT this post after I write all things you need to do
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you can PM so we don't spam too much
2. already rooted with
[ROM] [28/12] Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5) [Optional mods] by teppic74
HBOOT: 0.80 S-ON
može i po hrvatski
NewAndroidNoob said:
My fellow noob! ( )
I was in same position as you before few days, this pro guys don't like to write steps, they point to guides and then you need to read ALOT to get picture of what is all needed, but luckily for you I am here to help lol
First to say some things about it...
1. We will S-OFF your phone (doesnt matter what S-OFF means)
2. Root phone
3. Modify your official ROM you got on phone (I presume its 2.2.2 as latest official android for Desire)
4. You will have free space
I will EDIT this post after I write all things you need to do
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s-off =security off
root = superuser permissions
anyway any1 can tell some1 run revolutionary and flash a zip file or rom, but the point of READING is so that u have an idea of what ur doing therefore u wont be back here in a week complaining that ur phone "suddenly stopped working" or "is my desire bricked"
lol rant over
Sent from my HTC Desire
kmetek said:
you can PM so we don't spam too much
2. already rooted with
[ROM] [28/12] Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5) [Optional mods] by teppic74
HBOOT: 0.80 S-ON
može i po hrvatski
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lol I thought you are OP .. lambada24... and that you got non-rooted phone etc...damn, this change everything haha.
Since you are already rooted then just add another partition via PC and gparted live bootable CD, EXT3 on SD card and install app Link2SD, and you are good to go. Well tomorow I write something on PM
I've S-Offed the phone and rooted it. What ROM options should I be considering? Does Ice-cream sandwich work well on the Desire? I don't need anything highly modified, just something that will let me transfer as much data as possible to the SD card.
lambada24 said:
I've S-Offed the phone and rooted it. What ROM options should I be considering? Does Ice-cream sandwich work well on the Desire? I don't need anything highly modified, just something that will let me transfer as much data as possible to the SD card.
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well done in getting s-off, easy aint it? personaly i wouldnt use ICS but its up to u. go look at all the roms in Desire Android Development and pick whats best for u, all devs post in the OP what features they have a2sd etc and install requirements.
also i would recommend 4ext recovery instead of clockworkmod. click 4ext recovery in my sig and download "4ext recovery updater app" install it then flash 4ext recovery from within the app
Sent from my HTC Desire
ICS roms are working well but all have one issue or another. You could try CM7.2 (gingerbread) if you don't mind loosing HTC sense.
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hans moleman said:
ICS roms are working well but all have one issue or another. You could try CM7.2 (gingerbread) if you don't mind loosing HTC sense.
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For me Sense is priceless...
hans moleman said:
ICS roms are working well but all have one issue or another. You could try CM7.2 (gingerbread) if you don't mind loosing HTC sense.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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i was gona try cm7.2 tomorrow coz theres an IN2SD-S version now
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Hey guys,
I've been around the Defy forum for quite a while now; however, my Desire is back from the dead and now my beloved
Motorola Defy is retired, which means that I'll be getting to know this forum instead!
Right now I have absolutely nothing. Just a TELUS Desire GSM on 2.2 stock froyo. Can someone point me in the right
direction for rooting and S-OFF? Do I need to unlock my bootloader as well for most ROMs?
I have this ROM in mind:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980122
Everything is pretty straightforward except for a few things:
Someone PLEASE help me, but I'm not going to be demanding or anything. So help me if you can.
1. How the hell did you guys end up with, like, 10 different recoveries and HBOOTs? I've heard CM7R2, stock, Amon RA, among others.
Someone can clarify this?
2. I don't get the partition things at all. For the above ROM what do I need?
3. And just how to root and S-OFF and unlock BL if I need to...
4. A simple procedure for all this maybe?:silly:
5. A simple explanation on how HBOOT and recovery and custom recovery work? On the Defy, we had a 2nd-init and 2nd-boot that basically
launched a custom ROM and kernel on top of stock because the bootloader was locked down. The CWM recovery was accessible from the bootmenu, which was in turn launched by pressing volume-down at the blue LED halfway through boot.
6. Last and not most important does the ROM above (Cooldroid Revolution 9.0) have working Wifi? It says it's "fast, smooth and stable" but...
Thanks so much.
Soooo...
Welcome to the Desire forums.
You should start by ignoring anything that has to do with the Defy. You don't need to unlock the bootloader.
Now, let's start with s-off.
Follow this tutorial Long link, and ignore step 2.
After you're s-off, you should install 4ext recovery. It's the best recovery for the Desire.
In this guide, you will install 4ext, and create an ext partition on your sd-card. The partition is allocated for more internal memory (more apps).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Read every guide carefully. You will learn a lot.
After you did those things, you can install a custom ROM. I don't recommend you use the one you mentioned as a daily one. It's still a work in progress, and has a lot of bugs.
There are many hboots. When you change hboot, you change the way the internal memory is partitioned.
For example, the cm7r2 hboot has a smaller system allocated space than the stock hboot.
You usually change hboots to get more app space.
Thanks!
But what about root? What tool should I use?
Edit: never mind, I saw the guide link in your signature
I'll get back to you when I'm done rooting. Fingers crossed.
You will root it when you either install a custom rom, or install the supersu zip.
So I read up on some guides that told me to use unrevoked, so I have this reflash_package.exe ready to go. I've uninstalled HTC sync because unrevoked tells me to.
Just one question: I can only use CWM recovery if using unrevoked? That's the default, and only recovery available with it. Can I just download the 4EXTRecoveryUpdater.apk later and change it to 4ext recovery?
If I end up somehow with a ROM that does not boot, how do I fix it? Flash an original RUU?
Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Why didn't you just listen to me? You don't need unrevoked.
Did you backup before flashing a rom? If you did, then restore it..
Flash another rom, or flash the 2.3 ruu.
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I did it! Thank you so much for helping me, despite all my noobiness in this forum.
I'm running Cooldroid Revolution 9.0 now. Again, thanks so much. About 7 hours later after I started reading up
and working with my Desire, I've learned a lot of things about S-OFF and HBOOT and EXT4.
I did a nandroid backup of my original 2.2 ROM before I formatted my SD card and it's backed up on my new
fat32 and my desktop as well. I guess I'm safe for now.
Oh and one more thing, are RUUs like a last-ditch attempt to save your phone? I remember there was a 2.3 RUU upgrade
that came in the form of an .exe and you just needed to plug your phone in, the .exe would do all the upgrading stuff for you.
Yeah. Ruu's are usually the last things that can save your roms.
Even noobier
I am even more of a noob than anyone else I've seen on here.
I am a college student, and I'm considered the best programmer in my class, so I was hired by my school to develop a mobile app for the admissions department. One of my classmates already developed one for apple, but he graduated, so my job is to create one for Android. They are fully aware that mobile app development is not taught here, and none of the people I will be working with knows anything about it either, so it is going to be interesting, to say the least.
My best language is C#, so Java should be no problem, but I am completely at a loss as to where to start. All the app development information I've been able to find is geared toward Ice Cream Sandwich, but I want to make sure my app works on Gingerbread because of its huge market share, plus anything newer.
I've looked at the "beginners" threads on here but I don't understand even half of what people are saying (I speak geek but it's a completely different dialect lol). Is there a resource somewhere where a good C#, Visual Basic, and SQL programmer can teach herself something completely new, and do it right?
Try this guide:
http://developer.android.com/training/index.html
Thanks, I will look into that
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