Does anyone know about any good alternatives to BitPim? Other than CDMA Workshop or KINO? thx
BitPim uses a different protocol than KinO. I'm not sure what other programs are that can use the same functionality, though.
Is there some specific feature you're looking for that you haven't found in the others?
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i want one that is centered entirely around filesystem browsing. i would use kino but i need something much more powerful. the key to hacking this phone isnt necessarily getting new os. what we want is a better internet browser with more functionality. if you think about it, its the browser that we want to replace because of its low functionality.
Technically it would depend on which protocol you want to use when browsing the phone. KinO uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol), and BitPim uses another type of browsing, although I'm not sure what protocol it is. Many older Windows Mobile Devices and other portable devices use a form of Mass Storage protocol, although I can't remember if that's the official name.
It's possible we can get the Kin in that mode now (via the PROGRAMNITT menu), but you need a driver to communicate with it, and as far as I know, we don't have access to a driver to access this mode yet.
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I know this may seem rhetorical, as most people use their PDA as WiFi clients. However, i've noticed a plethora of cheap SDIO WiFi cards, many of them OEM's. In fact, I have an Ambicom branded SD WiFi card which is actually the same OEM card as produced by Spectec in Taiwan. Unfortunately i haven't seen a pocketpc driver by them that supports the softap function. The specs for the cards show that they can do "Host AP Mode", which is what it takes.
What this means, is that with these cards it should be possible to turn the Harrier/(Blueangel with SD Wifi Card) into an actual Access Point.
My knowledge of how the Windows Mobile kernel operates and its packet routing infrastructure is pretty much nil. I have seen that you can add ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) as a catalog option when compiling a rom for Windows CE. An older product called Segue SoftAP by PCTEL actually did something similar while running under Windows XP, and utilized the built in ICS on it. I'm just curious if anyone knows of a way to build a ROM that something like this could be done through. I've never even seen a DHCP server for pocketpc, so there would need to be a few new things written for sure.
I would just like to know if this is absolutely impossible to do because of the operating system, i know that the hardware can do and handle this, easily.
Also, to know if there is an interest in having something like this by the users in the community.
Would be nice with a video capture device - streaming video from the handset directly to connections.
IH.
Actually, personally i was planning on using it with the Sony PSP to have internet access for it...
There would be many benefits to having the device set up as an access point. Almost limitless.
I guess i'll answer my own question. Apparently there is no routing built in to the OS (PocketPC).
However, companies like airscanner have managed to write drivers which interface to NDIS 6.0 for a firewall. Someone writing a packet router would be really cool.
Anyone know (for sure) how to setup/connect 2 PPC together for file transfer using an ad-hoc connection?
The AIM is to copy/move files to my friends xda while sitting in the pub faster than IR or BlueTooth.
Wrong forum for this question, my friend
Use Bluetooth File Transfer or IR file transfer (Beam app). It's easy enough to do.
p.s. You can always do the 'sneakernet' thing and copy files to an SD card on one device and move it to the other WM device (if all you want to do is move files).
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Thank for advice, but not what im looking for. And sorry for the wrong placement, im a bit blinkerd and look in Univerasal most of the time.
Thanks all the same
You are very welcome, we try to help, even if we are snide about it some times.
Ahh, I see. You meant a WiFi connection in 'ad hoc' mode (vs. infrastructure mode) . You would have to set one of the XDAs in ad-hoc mode so it can act as an access-point. That can be done but I don't know if this will enable file-sharing. No such animal exists on any Windows Mobile devices (or at least I am not aware of any such software) and I don't know of any relevant shareware either so it can't be done this way.
Is there a reason you don't want to use the sneakernet approach? If you are only doing this occasionally it's just a minor pain in the rear-end.
Edit: Let me correct myself here and state that while you can actually use the WM5 devices in ad-hoc mode they cannot be used for transferring files, etc. You can use one of the devices as pass-thru just to, for example, browse the web. Although, I suppose that if you can run a FTP server on one of the devices (is there such a thing?) you can always use FTP to move files which would sort of negate the entire usability aspect of wireless.
For details on setting WM devices in ad-hoc mode read the very informative article here.
I have been using a program to monitor the URB packets sent between the PC and the phone to see if I can figure out what is unlocking the drive. Does anyone know of a program where I can manually send a packet to the phone through USB so that I can test? It would be super helpful!
Thanks
Revskills looks pretty dangerous. Start it and use the mobile ports.
Revskills is the name of the program.
I got what unlocks the phone logged (from monitors), and i do have a program to send the Usb raw data (that i mentioned on other topic).
Can't giveaway the program as i use it on linux, and is development-wise handmade from scratch by me (not gui, needs compilation each time i try something, etc).
Unfortunately, i can't operate with my device to test it (need to be ON and on the kin normal mode).
If someone want to sell me one, i may gratefully pay for a second hand one hehe.
Are you implying you can access the picture storage areas and pull them off the phone?
i'm implying that i have a program to send bulk hex code to the device or control transfer data too.
The "unlock" thing about the storage nand you wonder about is a mixture of both things, modifying device USB properties needed when it's needed.
Protocol used is MTP-like (which is "open") with several variations, so they called it MTPz ("z"une protocol for MTP).
And also I imply that the Zune usb monitoring is futile, as it uses Janus Drm (i always said it) and it's a response challege with cryptography used (not doable).
Nothing more, nothing less.
Hi, I was wondering if anybody had compiled any information on MTPZ in regards to its usage on Windows Phone 7. Based on preliminary review of the Mac OS X Connector application, the authentication process for MTPZ + Zune is at least somewhat different for MTPZ + WP7.
I've essentially reverse engineered the Zune variety of the MTPZ protocol (which you can read about if you head over to my blog), and I was planning to look into MTPZ on Windows Phone since that might have a larger target audience, but I was hoping to gather some information first:
How is MTPZ used on WP7? Is it what allows one to move files back and forth to the device? In addition, what is an MTPZ session with a Windows Phone device like? Is it just MTPZ authentication operations initially followed by regular MTP (as is the case for Zune devices), or are there MTPZ operations used throughout a session?
What does the Zune software allow you to do with Windows Phone devices? I don't have one of my own.
Has anybody captured a USB/MTP session of the Zune software's communication with a Windows Phone device?
Also just for when/if I begin looking into the protocol:
Do the WP7 emulator images include MTPZ implementations?
Would it somehow be possible to use the emulator image to simulate an actual USB Windows Phone device?
Thanks so much for any information.
Sounds like a great project! I can't answer all your questions right now, but a few of them certainly...
MTPZ allows syncing media files (music, video, picture) to and from WP7. I believe it is also used for changing certain phone settings. In this way, it is very similar to Zune players.
I believe MTPZ is also involved in both the official dev-unlock procedure (the Microsoft developer registration tool requires that Zune be running and have connected with the phone) and app deployment (same restriction). I'm not sure about those - it miht be something else that Zune does - but it seems likely.
There are some other possibilities of things you might do with access to the phone (check it for update availability, wipe the phone, configure WiFi sync, rename it, etc.) It also might be possible to change other settings not visible int he GUI, or to access information that is normally hidden (one awesome possibility would be the encryption key used for the backups, though that's a long shot).
Honestly, just finding a way to run the WiFi sync on-demand would be brilliant. Another very cool option would be to directly modify the artist background images and such on the phone.
As for the emulator, it does support app deployment, but I think that's the only thing from the above list that is supported on it. I don't know how much, if any, of MTPZ is implemented in it. It's probably worth trying (it's free, after all) and considering that it's a VM, it's entirely possible that it does use a virtual USB connection (or some other link that you can tap).
Good luck!
Thanks for the reply.
Okay, so MTPZ is at least used for syncing the media files and all that? That's good to know, do you know if those are transferred via regular MTP commands?
Ah, based on the information there about requiring the Zune software running and connected, I'd also venture to say that it's likely, especially considering the plethora of MTPZ and other non-standard MTP opcodes, like "MTPZ_OPCODE_MARKETPLACE_SET_CREDENTIALS".
So it definitely seems that MTPZ was amended to include a bunch of WP7-specific operations, contrary to the handshake-only operations that comprised MTPZ for the Zune.
If the emulator supports app deployment, and that seems to require an MTPZ connection (and therefore the MTPZ authentication), so I think it would be fair to say that I would at least be able to debug a live authentication session. That being said, I'm still unsure of how I would go about using the emulator image to imitate a real, physical WP7 device connected over USB (much the same way that ISO disc images can be used to imitate physical discs) so that the Zune/Mac Connector software believes it is connected to a device. Hopefully somebody can shed some light on if that's possible and how to go about it.
Currently I'm doing a static analysis of the Mac OS X Windows Phone 7 Connector application to get some preliminary notes on the authentication process.
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Hi, I was wondering if anybody had compiled any information on MTPZ in regards to its usage on Windows Phone 7. Based on preliminary review of the Mac OS X Connector application, the authentication process for MTPZ + Zune is at least somewhat different for MTPZ + WP7.
I've essentially reverse engineered the Zune variety of the MTPZ protocol (which you can read about if you head over to my blog), and I was planning to look into MTPZ on Windows Phone since that might have a larger target audience, but I was hoping to gather some information first:
How is MTPZ used on WP7? Is it what allows one to move files back and forth to the device? In addition, what is an MTPZ session with a Windows Phone device like? Is it just MTPZ authentication operations initially followed by regular MTP (as is the case for Zune devices), or are there MTPZ operations used throughout a session?
What does the Zune software allow you to do with Windows Phone devices? I don't have one of my own.
Has anybody captured a USB/MTP session of the Zune software's communication with a Windows Phone device?
Also just for when/if I begin looking into the protocol:
Do the WP7 emulator images include MTPZ implementations?
Would it somehow be possible to use the emulator image to simulate an actual USB Windows Phone device?
Thanks so much for any information.
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Hi, there were some work on MTPz done by biktor_gj, donpromillo and me on the Nokia Lumia 800 Full Unlock thread (discussion started around page 76, tryouts around page 78-80).
So far, we know that Zune performs operating system backup and restore, send applications and software updates (cab and xaps) and flash updates (FFUs).
donpromillo and biktor_gj have sniffed USB traffic for the backup process.
Thanks for your work on MTPz reverse-engineering!
Hi all,
I've been using a HTC HD2 running WM 6.5 since 2009. I'm still happy with it but it becomes more and more obsolete for many things (no 4G, unable to browse "modern" website, no HTML email support etc.). Now i think about purchasing a Lumia 950 for WM 10. However, there're many functions that seems lost or deeply changed since 2009. I need a new phone for professionnal use. I don't need social networks, games or entertainment things (what Android do very well by the way).
1/ I use Outlook 2010 on Windows 7 and i need to sync all my calendar and contacts with no cloud at all for privacy reasons. I have no exchange server. I'd like to do this through Bluetooth as i do it everyday with WM6.5. This seems impossible nowadays! Even between Outlook desktop and Outlook mobile. This is a hudge regression to me. I'm still stuck with my old WM 6.5 mainly because of this. I've heard of a software called Akruto but it works with a USB cable (another regression). Plus, and i can't find any feedback about this software. Is it really cloudless or not... we don't know.
2/ I need to sync many files by keeping the original tree with folders, subfolders etc, with no cloud again, between my desktop and my mobile. And i need this data being crypted in AES in case I'd lose my phone or some people try to access it. For now with my HD2, i use FreeOTFE which crypts and mounts a drive with a letter (i.e : G: ) on the desktop from a file stored in the microSD card inside the phone. After that, i can sync the files with a special software on Windows 7. This software needs a letter to be mounted for working. But again, it seems the MTP protocol has become the standard, and it's not possible to get a letter with it... Another regression.
3/ I need visual notifications when there's a miss call, a voicemail or a new mail without sound pop-up and without having to turn on the smartphone screen . The LED was very useful but i disappeared too. It was replaced by the glance thing which looks interesting. Does it work with the Lumia 950? I've read the glance doesn't exist (or doesn't work well) with AMOLED screen. By the way, can you choose what kind of notification exactly you need? To avoid draining battery for not useful things.
4/ I've been using Tomtom for GPS for 10 years now. And i'm sad to discover it doesn't exist on WM. What good alternative would you recommand? With of course point of interest customing and lansdcape mode switching automatically. Or, would you think the method to make working Androids apps on WM10 would work with a GPS software?
5/ Does Google maps exist on WM10? I don't want any alternative, but the original one for many special reasons.
Thank you very much.
Lucius Snow said:
Hi all,
I've been using a HTC HD2 running WM 6.5 since 2009. I'm still happy with it but it becomes more and more obsolete for many things (no 4G, unable to browse "modern" website, no HTML email support etc.). Now i think about purchasing a Lumia 950 for WM 10. However, there're many functions that seems lost or deeply changed since 2009. I need a new phone for professionnal use. I don't need social networks, games or entertainment things (what Android do very well by the way).
1/ I use Outlook 2010 on Windows 7 and i need to sync all my calendar and contacts with no cloud at all for privacy reasons. I have no exchange server. I'd like to do this through Bluetooth as i do it everyday with WM6.5. This seems impossible nowadays! Even between Outlook desktop and Outlook mobile. This is a hudge regression to me. I'm still stuck with my old WM 6.5 mainly because of this. I've heard of a software called Akruto but it works with a USB cable (another regression). Plus, and i can't find any feedback about this software. Is it really cloudless or not... we don't know.
2/ I need to sync many files by keeping the original tree with folders, subfolders etc, with no cloud again, between my desktop and my mobile. And i need this data being crypted in AES in case I'd lose my phone or some people try to access it. For now with my HD2, i use FreeOTFE which crypts and mounts a drive with a letter (i.e : G: ) on the desktop from a file stored in the microSD card inside the phone. After that, i can sync the files with a special software on Windows 7. This software needs a letter to be mounted for working. But again, it seems the MTP protocol has become the standard, and it's not possible to get a letter with it... Another regression.
3/ I need visual notifications when there's a miss call, a voicemail or a new mail without sound pop-up and without having to turn on the smartphone screen . The LED was very useful but i disappeared too. It was replaced by the glance thing which looks interesting. Does it work with the Lumia 950? I've read the glance doesn't exist (or doesn't work well) with AMOLED screen. By the way, can you choose what kind of notification exactly you need? To avoid draining battery for not useful things.
4/ I've been using Tomtom for GPS for 10 years now. And i'm sad to discover it doesn't exist on WM. What good alternative would you recommand? With of course point of interest customing and lansdcape mode switching automatically. Or, would you think the method to make working Androids apps on WM10 would work with a GPS software?
5/ Does Google maps exist on WM10? I don't want any alternative, but the original one for many special reasons.
Thank you very much.
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First of all , this is a huge jump you have made!
but you should just jump in a figure it all for yourself, because there isnt any mobile OS out there that can meet your requirements unless you configure it specifically.
surya467 said:
First of all , this is a huge jump you have made!
but you should just jump in a figure it all for yourself, because there isnt any mobile OS out there that can meet your requirements unless you configure it specifically.
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Yes i know i need to configure it to avoid the all-cloud forced step. That's why I'm here.
1. there doesn't seem to be any way to sync your calendar and contacts through bluetooth, and i don't think it's possible with usb either, unless using some kind of 3rd party software.
2. windows 10 has build in encryption, i haven't used it yet, so i don't know what kind of encryption it uses. but i think if you copy your files over they will get encrypted. another way might be using interop unlock, which, if i'm right about this, enables you to mount the phone as usb storage and mount it as a folder in windows, but again, i haven't tried this either, so i don't know how this works.
3. as far as i know glance does work on the 950(xl), but you can only choose 5 apps to display their unread count, in addition to showing the time and date.
4/5. there's no google maps, most google apps aren't available for windows phone/10. there is the default maps app, which uses bing maps. this app has basic navigation possibilities.
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1. there doesn't seem to be any way to sync your calendar and contacts through bluetooth, and i don't think it's possible with usb either, unless using some kind of 3rd party software.
2. windows 10 has build in encryption, i haven't used it yet, so i don't know what kind of encryption it uses. but i think if you copy your files over they will get encrypted. another way might be using interop unlock, which, if i'm right about this, enables you to mount the phone as usb storage and mount it as a folder in windows, but again, i haven't tried this either, so i don't know how this works.
3. as far as i know glance does work on the 950(xl), but you can only choose 5 apps to display their unread count, in addition to showing the time and date.
4/5. there's no google maps, most google apps aren't available for windows phone/10. there is the default maps app, which uses bing maps. this app has basic navigation possibilities.
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Thank you. The Interop unlock the USB mass storage seems good news.
Hi,
ad3) I don't own a 950 but glance should work with the 950 (I can't posts links but if you google it or look it up on windowscentral you can find instructions how to set up glance on a 950 (XL) )
ad4/5) Build in maps are OK and also allow offline navigation.