[Poll] is YouTube at 480p smooth for you? - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since I couldn't find any reviews specifying this, I have created a poll. This is the closest thing I found - "YouTube videos played quite smoothly (360p-480p)"
Are you able to stream YouTube at 480p smoothly? (zero stuttering/dropped frames)
This is in regards to my previous thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180717

you can watch 720p fine with jetvd from the market. I do it all the time..uses so much data though O.O

Thanks for the tip, jetVD works nicely - smooth 720p.
I CBA to send the phone for repair for 4 weeks just to potentially fix a small issue.
Edit: the KeepVid app looks exactly the same as jetVD

I only watch via WiFi, is faster and saves me €10 a month.
But streaming HD still seems to lag (I use Opera Mini w/ lastest Flash Player), I think the phone (I have a Neo) can't handle streaming HD well enough...

It can handle 720p streaming just fine, only not through Flash. Video playing through Flash still isn't optimal, but that is just flash. When going through the Yt desktop site not even 480p works completely smooth here.
With JetVD you can watch 720p streaming just fine, and since JetVD uses the Gallery player it even uses the Bravia engine, AND the output over HDMI would be real 720p and not just 854x480 upscaled!

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I want to be able to play all movie types.

I dont want to have to worry about decoding, or converting, or anything at all. I just want to click on a movie file, and play it. Is there any player out there(free) that can do that?
Vplayer is like that, and WAS free until about 3 days ago. you can give rockplayer a try, it isnt bad.
It really depends on the type of file you are trying to play (there are tons of video formats/containers out there). If you use some obscure format, you should search for it (try either directly in the market or on this site).
For the more commonly-used types though, popular choices on this forum include RockPlayer and VPlayer (not as popular now because it has become a paid app). Some people also like arcMedia. I believe there is also a ported version of mPlayer in the main app forum. Supposedly, VLC for Android will be coming out soon as well.
I've been using VPlayer without any issues, though I'm interested to try VLC once it comes out. RockPlayer also worked well for me before VPlayer came out.
okay well i found a 4 day old vplayer.apk online. we'll see what that does.
Edit: it flickers, a lot. Is it always like that?
I heard VLC is coming out soon for Android (sometime this month). If so and if it's anything like the PC version it should play pretty much anything.
Not sure about ISO (not sure if you need that), but for common formats like AVI, WMV, MP4, I find Rockplayer to be the best. It handles every video I've thrown at it. Although sometimes I need to pick either hardware decoding off/on depending on the video. With it off, some WMV videos lag. With it on, some AVI videos FC the program.
Vplayer lags into slow-motion on some WMV movies, and also has some pixelation for a few seconds while scanning through a few AVI videos. But otherwise a pretty decent player also.
ArcMedia was a very poor player, to me. It lagged on WMV videos. Interface needed lots of work (displayed file names too short, no landscape browsing). Inferior to both Rockplayer and vPlayer. Similarly, I tried mPlayer, file compatibility was not great, and the interface was really clunky. It takes too much time to navigate and find the desired video.
yeah when i said all formats, i really meant all the like, common ones. but more than just mpeg, and wmv. so divx and h264 is about as much as i need. I got vplayer installed now, the beta. the beta is pretty good, i wouldnt mind paying for it. I mean i would mind, because its just a damn video player, but i also wouldnt mind it. but it flickers a lot. is that normal?
I haven't noticed any flickering on vPlayer, that's odd. Is it evident just watching a video for a couple minutes (I mostly use Rockplayer)?
I have never had any flickering with vplayer. Try setting the lum at a level. Move your finger up on the left half of the screen while watching a video.
Video playback on android is a bit of a problem still. Problem is that the built-in player only recognizes a few containers, and these containers are very restricted in the content they can carry.
There are some other players that are more universal, but a design limitation of android makes it impossible for them to use the integrated video decoder to accelerate decode. As a result, these players will have a very low performance and drain your battery fast due to running the CPU hard.

MKV hd playback

Ok, So i got the hd nitro for x-mas. I wanted the phone because i have a few movies in 720 p that I figured I could run on this phone. I tried out both rock player and mx videoplayer and couldn't get crouching tiger hidden dragon to run at an acceptable frame rate. Moon on the other hand runs pretty well on this phone. I'm thinking crouching tiger has more complicated scenes to render, but if this device can't play back many movies in hd at an acceptable frame rate it's usefulness goes way down for me.
It really depends on the movies encoding settings to , some movies (720p mkv) even dont run smoothly on my laptop (i7 2630qm , 16 GB Ram ,GTX560m) , also try running it on vlc @ http://phandroid.com/2011/09/23/vlc-open-source-media-player-for-android-download/
Otherwise LG stock rom is to blame
I actually just used the default videoplayer for the first time and it did a better job than both mx video and rock player. Crouching tiger played without a hitch. I do like the user interface for those players better, but performance trumps usability in this case.
I have tested it on 1080p movie with 15mbps bitrate (10gb file), streaming it over WiFi with ES File Explorer, no stuttering or skipping, perfectly smooth.
P.S.
I found mVideoPlayer the best performance vice, usually if it doesn't play something, nothing else will play it...
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I have tested it on 1080p movie with 15mbps bitrate (10gb file), streaming it over WiFi with ES File Explorer, no stuttering or skipping, perfectly smooth.
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I found mVideoPlayer the best performance vice, usually if it doesn't play something, nothing else will play it...
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i went to d/l this and the description states that the author hasn't updated this in a "very very long time, i'm sorry"
should i disregard that?
Try it and see for yourself.
Personally I found if this player can't play a video, no other players can either...There are some formats that perform better in different players, so it wouldn't hurt have 3 or 4 players installed, not like it's hard to delete them any times
Is there a youtube app that will let you play at 720 p? The one that comes on the phone only lets you select high quality, and the only way i cant get it to play 720 p on the browser is if I select desktop mode which makes it a little cumbersome.
I'll try out mplayer, but im quite happy with the default player.
Edit: It appears the link is broken for the newest version of mplayer
mplayer is different from mvideoplayer
https://market.android.com/details?id=afzkl.development.mVideoPlayer
I installed mplayer and it ran better than a few of the other videoplayers i had, but still not as good as the default player. Default player is the only one not to choke on crouching tiger.
Btw, good luck playing anything like that on Sammy Skyrocket
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I recommend MoboPlayer:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
Never tried mvideoplayer though, will have to give that a shot.

FullHD videos and custom ROMs

Hi,
I was just curious as to why the Full HD 1080p videos (for e.g. H.264 trailers from Apple) refuse to play smoothly on any CM9 and CM10 custom ROMs (with Moboplayer, Acer Media), while the same videos play buttery smooth with the same players on the official stock ROM? Do I need to tweak any settings or install any add ons in the custom ROMs to enable such playback. I am assuming that it is a hardware-acceleration issue because the setting for software decoding in Moboplayer has been turned off. However, 720p videos play fine.
Thanks.
rockthegod said:
Hi,
I was just curious as to why the Full HD 1080p videos (for e.g. H.264 trailers from Apple) refuse to play smoothly on any CM9 and CM10 custom ROMs (with Moboplayer, Acer Media), while the same videos play buttery smooth with the same players on the official stock ROM? Do I need to tweak any settings or install any add ons in the custom ROMs to enable such playback. I am assuming that it is a hardware-acceleration issue because the setting for software decoding in Moboplayer has been turned off. However, 720p videos play fine.
Thanks.
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Never had this issue, 1080 plays fine for me. Is this over HDMI or doesn't matter, just always? I use dice player and occasionally mx player, both play OK for me.
Some are encoded differently then others so some may need a bump up in CPU frequency but most generally play fine at 1ghz with deadline. Of course this is my device with my movies on my build, any number of things vary between the files and roms and players used.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
Thanks..
pio_masaki said:
Never had this issue, 1080 plays fine for me. Is this over HDMI or doesn't matter, just always? I use dice player and occasionally mx player, both play OK for me.
Some are encoded differently then others so some may need a bump up in CPU frequency but most generally play fine at 1ghz with deadline. Of course this is my device with my movies on my build, any number of things vary between the files and roms and players used.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
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OMG Thanks.. DicePlayer works like a charm. :good: :good: :laugh: The files I use for standard video play testing are Apple Movie Trailers 1080p H.264 / AAC 6 channel MOV files.
Now I am observing a very interesting development in the latest CM10 preview. Acer Media and Acer Video Player won't even detect the MOV video files. MoboPlayer and MxPlayer detects the videos but shows laggy playback on the device screen as well as over HDMI.
Only DicePlayer plays them like a charm, without hiccups or lags and going to be the only player I will ever use from now on. I think the issue is probably some proprietary codec related because when I am on the official ICS ROM, all these players detect and play those same MOV files smoothly both on-screen as well as over HDMI ..
Glad it works for you, it seems to "force" hw decode more reliably then other players so far and seems almost infinite in what it will play. MX in fast software fills in where dice fails for me, which is rare. MX seems to handle web streams better though.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.

[Q] Hi10p playback on Note 3 with MXplayer/other video player apps?

Those who have a Note 3: can anyone report back on how MKV files with 10-bit profile/hi10p play back using MXplayer (Using HW+ or whatever codec works best) or whatever video app you prefer to use?
Sample files in both 720p and 1080p resolution are here: koi-sama.net/files/hi10/
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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Samsung should give you some commission because you just sold me on the phone! <3
Thanks and thanks!
Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
TYVM
Here's the codec since I'm unable to edit my previous post
RMXO said:
Can you try out Dice player to see if that app works also?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.a
Use the provided codec with it please. The codec has to be in the internal sdcard & link it in Dice settings
TYVM
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It worked both without and with the codec. Subtitles worked better than the stock player, as it showed multiple lines at once during openings with karaoke lyrics, though both lines were on top of each other, instead of one being on the bottom and one being on the top like mxplayer had it. There are possibly settings to play with subtitles and such, but either way it seems that the phone is playing videos like a boss.
For testing I was using these videos: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=236223
I'm about to test http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=446022
and one of the most subtitle intensive videos I know, the first episode of this http://colormesubbed.com/the-world-god-only-knows-ii-bd-vol-1
I'll update this post when I am done testing.
Update:
Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.
wiimonkey9 said:
Alright. The stock video player failed to play both of those, and only played the audio and basic subtitles. MXplayer and Dice player both played the World God only knows video perfectly, but with only MXplayer perfectly applying all of the subtitle effects(which is pretty impressive). They both needed S/W rendering to play it however. They could only play Garden of Words with S/W rendering as well, though it did lag and stutter. The video for Garden of Worlds is honestly a nightmare with even most laptops being unable to play it, though I do expect that the Note 3 will eventually be able to play it with better optimizations from the video player apps in the future. Even though the world god only knows video was the same codec, it was at half the bitrate and had 2-channel sound instead of 6-channel. Like I said, that video is an overboard example. The phone literally plays every other video in my collection.
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Thanks for the report, hi10 compatibility is a major point for me too!
So, all videos play fine, even 1080p hi10 subbed, except some pretty heavy ones, like Garden of Words..
Maybe this was due to the bigger size (a movie and not episodes) and the sourround sound?
Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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wiimonkey9 said:
This was one of the first things I tried, to see whether or not it could handle my bluray quality anime. Guess what, IT DOES! Both MXplayer and even the stock player handle hi10p mkv bluray flac 1080p videos with ease. Also subtitles work great in both, but are substantially better in mxplayer which does some effects for the subtitles and can do more than one line at a time.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.
GameBoiye said:
Just figured I'd post a more technical answer for people here who are wondering. The Note 3 does not appear to support hardware acceleration for High [email protected], or for most people who watch anime know it as, 10-bit. Now that doesn't mean it won't play it, but you aren't going to get 100% smooth video with it when video higher bittrate or 1080P video.
Just so you know I've pretty much watched every new anime that came out this season on my Note 3 (20+ shows) and not a single one had issues. At most I've only had one or two instances of stuttering which was attributed to other tasks in the background doing stuff, since it still is a phone. The Note 3 definitely is a beast and probably the best phone you could get for watching Anime. Heck, there's times where I'll sit on my bed watching an episode because it looks better than my computer screen.
But regardless, just know it doesn't really support it. This means that the H/W and H/W+ modes in MXPlayer (or any player you can get from and Android store) don't work on the video and it'll force you to use S/W mode (you can tell by the S/W mark on the top right of the video when you open the seek menu within MXPlayer)
So what does this mean exactly? Well even in S/W mode the phone has enough power to force its way through rendering anything as long as it's not too demanding. Several of the shows that came out this season are encoded 10-bit by quite a few groups and I have had no issues. The biggest one I've watched without issues is [UTW-Mazui]_Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_S_-_24_[720p][1E0D545F] which comes in at about 800mb for the episode and definitely has one of the highest bittrates you'll see for currently aired Anime. Though do note the video is High [email protected] so it's not the newest format profile but it still forces the phone to use S/W mode. However the video plays perfectly fine with no stuttering or lag issues.
But once you go beyond that the phone's power just isn't enough to make up for the lack of hardware support. Playing [Coalgirls]_Sword_Art_Online_02_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[483024FB] shows noticeable lag and is practically unwatchable. I would say I get around 10-15FPS, but that's really only an estimate. My guess is most 1080P 10-bit videos you'll watch with software mode will be unwatchable, however 720P 10-bit videos seem to be fine. I've thrown everything I can find at it and anything 720P 10-bit works perfecly. But do note that if the video is not 10-bit then you should have no problem at all watching it. I've watched [Coalgirls]_Infinite_Stratos_01_(1920x1080_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[A9B39255] without any issues, and in fact completed that entire series on my phone without a single issue, however the phone does play back the video in H/W+ mode because it's not 10-bit.
I hope this helps someone decide on this phone. It is honestly the best phone I've ever owned and finally lets me watch all the Anime I want. While I wish it would watch every video I have as I have a lot of newer 1080P 10-bit stuff it still gets the job done better than any other phone I've tested. And my god lets not forget to mention the screen which is absolutely perfect for Anime viewing. The size makes the viewing a pleasure and the extra color options really make it perfect. Though there are settings to get the color accuracy down to normal if it is too colorful for your taste.
P.S. I also have a paid Chrunchyroll account and have had no issues watching anything there.
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I just want to make sure that no one buys the phone thinking this is true. MXPlayer will play 10-bit anime in S/W mode and the built in video player will say "unsupported video codec" While not ill intent was involved my guess is that wiimonkey9 probably tried 1080P MKV blu-rays that weren't 10-bit encoded. Read my post above if you want more information but I figured I'd quote this in case anyone does a Google search to get here like I did and immediately read his response.
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Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?
dragonstalker said:
Is this for a particular type of anime. or just Anime in general?
Is this for specific MKV files running bluray (fullHD) rips?
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This isn't specifically only related to Anime or MKV files, it's more specifically related to the h.264 standard. You can read a brief description of it here: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Hi10P and a more indepth description here: http://x264.nl/x264/10bit_01-ateme_pierre_larbier_422_10-bit.pdf
While it can be used for any videos, it's primarily used for Anime as it can provide better video at the same bittrate. It fixes a lot of problems that come with animation being encoded such as banding. It can be used for regular content but the benefit for non-animation medium is not enough to justify the increase in processing power and lack of hardware support to get people to switch.

No 1080p Video Playback?

Do any of you guys use your Nexus 7 2013 for 1080p videos? It seems that my device isn't able to play 1-2 hr 1080p resolution videos at all through VLC. VLC has no problem playing 720p videos. For 1080p, I get audio but the video doesn't play at all. If I decrease play speed to something less than normal speed, the nexus is able to keep up and play it at a reduced speed, so I'm unsure if it's a VLC issue or if the nexus is just not capable of doing 1080p.
Let me know what your experiences are with 1080p video playback!
I can't recall ever having issues but I'm also not 100% certain I've ever played a 1080p video. I'll toss one on and test it in a little bit. Is it only VLC that's having the issue? And what format is the video you're trying to play? I assume you've tested multiple video files and also played them on another device to make sure it's not the files that are bad?
Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.
The 1080p videos I tried to play are mp4 files. I don't know enough about videos to find out encoding these files are in (if that even matterS), but they're pretty large at 1.8GB and 1.6GB. I will try another 1080p video I downloaded a while ago.
Out of curiosity, what version of VLC are you running? Mine is VLC v0.9.10 Revision 630a95b (2014-10-16)
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Just tested a 1080p movie with VLC and it worked fine.
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I just tested a different 1080p movie and it worked fine. I guess there's something wrong with some of these video files I have. Thanks for your help!
Yeah I figured that's all it was. Not sure what version VLC I'm on, but its the latest. Just reinstalled it the other day.
Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)
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Try using Mx-player. So far it played everything I threw at it. (1080p)
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VLC is MUCH better than MX Player. It's pretty much the de-facto king of video players, on any platform. Besides, he already solved his problem, it was a bad file.
That might be true on other platforms but on Android I had it constantly crashing or not playing some files whereas mx-player played everything.
Just saying you could give it a try. I've been using vlc since way back on pc and I am still using it, just not on Android. (but granted I haven't tried the last release)

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