[Q] Newb needs help/explanation about how to root my MT3GS 2.2.1 - myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok, ok put the stones down....DOWN. yes Im a newb, but im not an idiot. I have spent the last hour tonight (as well as searching a few times over the last 2 weeks) searching, not just this site, for a way to Root my MT3GS. and apparently its currently impossible.
Yes I am aware of these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181214
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108316
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189485
however none of these fully explains anything and after reading all the replies in these threads it seems that theres conflicting comments, which are confusing me to no end. so Basically I have 3 questions:
Can I root my MT3GS what is currently running the OTA push of 2.2.1?
IS there a way to get S-Off working on it?
Can I Put any new Rom(could very well be using hte wrong word, if so it should be easy to understand what i mean) on the phone so that I can remove all unwanted stock apps, install any marketplace app I had before, and (drum roll please) get NETFLIX to work on my phone?
thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. but please, please please don't just refer me to another thread, because odds are A) I have read it and it didn't explain it well enough for me to understand and feel comfortable doing it, or B) it didn't provide the needed programs or only discussed part of my question and didn't seem to fit up with other threads which covered the other areas.

in short:
1- yes, you can root it. i've done it 3 times on my phone
2- as far as now, no, unless the new method posted today actually reverts the hboot
3- yes, although there might still be some apps that are on the rom that you do not want.

hey txdeathray, thanks for your reply. I found eckres original post on a different site that was much more elaborate, but from what i read still doesnt specify the S-off problem. last post: forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/28205-stuck-on-step-8-rooting/
SO basically, if I CANT get s-off working, then even if I put cm7 or whatever other version i find, as soon as I reboot my phone, it will undo everything I did and ill be stuck with 2.2.1 again.

Have you tried the unlockr.com way to do it? Their page has a vid following you thru the process.. id post the link but im mobile at the moment
Sent from my PG06100 using XDA App

Last I looked a couple days ago there was no way working method on unlockr. heck last week the only method involved goldcards, and my firned who rooted his droid refused to touch it.

JXM003 said:
hey txdeathray, thanks for your reply. I found eckres original post on a different site that was much more elaborate, but from what i read still doesnt specify the S-off problem. last post: forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/28205-stuck-on-step-8-rooting/
SO basically, if I CANT get s-off working, then even if I put cm7 or whatever other version i find, as soon as I reboot my phone, it will undo everything I did and ill be stuck with 2.2.1 again.
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No. You don't need S-OFF to keep a new ROM. And you won't lose root with S-ON.
To my understanding, you only need S-OFF if you want to be able to manage some things without having to reboot your phone into recovery, or to get to some system files you otherwise can't with S-ON.
I have not seen the need for S-OFF for my personal use of my phone.

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Unrevoked 1-click apk defeated in recent update?

My Evo is doing fine, but I was trying to help a friend root his yesterday and the Unrevoked 1-click apk didn't appear to be doing the trick. The only difference I can think of between our two phones is that I haven't downloaded the update that came this week. Has Sprint defeated this root method in the most recent patch?
Yes...they are up to UnrEVOked 3.
chazglenn3 said:
Yes...they are up to UnrEVOked 3.
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Right, this method requires you to use a PC though, right? I'm wondering if its still possible to root it using the unrevoked on-phone application, or has this been defeated? And if so, was the defeat in the most recent patch?
bump. I'm afraid the answer given is still a bit unclear to me. Can someone please clarify?
Make sure you are going to 'unrevoked.com/m' if you want to use it on your phone and avoid having to use the pc method. I forgot the /m when I first tried it and got pretty confused as well.
ashbare said:
Make sure you are going to 'unrevoked.com/m' if you want to use it on your phone and avoid having to use the pc method. I forgot the /m when I first tried it and got pretty confused as well.
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Yes, this is exactly what I did. The apk downloaded and installed, but didn't appear to gain root when I ran it. I ran it several times, but every time I attempted to run wifi tether, it would say that I wasn't root.
You can try downloading the Simple Root app from the development forum, Its only 4 clicks and its a legitimate full root. It does require the PC, but you seem to know how to use one of those as you got to this website.
Don't take shortcuts because your not sure what you're doing, learn
Mast3rpyr0 said:
You can try downloading the Simple Root app from the development forum, Its only 4 clicks and its a legitimate full root. It does require the PC, but you seem to know how to use one of those as you got to this website.
Don't take shortcuts because your not sure what you're doing, learn
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Thank you for the reply. I'll probably end up Simple Root for myself, but this is for a somewhat elderly friend of mine. He only needs root for wifi tether, since he can't get broadband where he lives (3g is okay). I figured the apk root method would be suitable for him since he would know how to uninstall it if he needed to claim is warranty or something. I won't be around to support his phone for him.
Anyway, thanks again. I'm still learning myself and appreciate the advice.
Ahh ok, he can always hit the wipe button and it will go back to a state good enough for the average sprint rep.
I Installed unrevoked 3by usb because i got last version 147.651.1. Its anyway to unroot and get back to stock rom. I tried different ways and nothing for example i wiped data, hard reset . etc.
Right now i dont have wifi is unable and that why i would like get back to stock. Also i use the method with htc sync and the ruu 132.651.1 andgive me error 171 then reintall the ruu give me error 140 and boot to the main screen/
Please any solution to get back to stock .
thanks in advanced,

Can someone link or show me where to get a rundown on how to root Froyo?

I am coming off a bricked phone so I am a little apprehensive about trying to root without a clear guide, especially froyo since it just got rooted from my understanding. I am sorry if this isnt in the right section, I really couldnt tell if this belonged in the General forum as it is a question, or if it belonged in the development as it is regarding Root/Roms. I would appreciate any help, and even any remarks on how I am misposting in this forum .
There is no root for froyo if you installed the official updates. You can try the previous methods but I doubt they work. You may be sol until someone decides to work on finding an exploit but I doubt that happens until there is an official release. The only rooted froyo that is out is for people who were rooted prior to froyo. Sorry.
If you have Froyo OTA (from Sprint) installed, you cannot yet root it (if/when someone releases root instructions). You have to already have your phone rooted with nand access and then install one of the rooted Froyo updates (there are two right now, from Avalaunch and netarchy). As well, there is a AOSP FROYO from cyanogenmod.
The wiki from toastcfh for this forum gives all sorts of instructions and options for rooting. Good luck.
swaze said:
There is no root for froyo if you installed the official updates. You can try the previous methods but I doubt they work. You may be sol until someone decides to work on finding an exploit but I doubt that happens until there is an official release. The only rooted froyo that is out is for people who were rooted prior to froyo. Sorry.
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So please don't murder me for this question, i'm a noob coming from a pre.
I updated(or i should say my phone automatically updated) the 2.1 sprint image from the last update with the SD card Fix. This was before I got to this forum about rooting, etc.
Are my options to only go to the sprint store and get a replacement phone if I want to root now? Or is there a way to backtrack.
I tried to root last night but kept getting daemon errors when trying to connect to the phone. :S
manville140 said:
So please don't murder me for this question, i'm a noob coming from a pre.
I updated(or i should say my phone automatically updated) the 2.1 sprint image from the last update with the SD card Fix. This was before I got to this forum about rooting, etc.
Are my options to only go to the sprint store and get a replacement phone if I want to root now? Or is there a way to backtrack.
I tried to root last night but kept getting daemon errors when trying to connect to the phone. :S
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What software version are you running? From homescreen go to menu>settings>about phone>software information and give me your software #.
1.47.165.1
I thought I could with this, because this is what the simpleroot software is showing in the program.
I did a full erase also last night with the volume down power button trick.
search for simpleroot 1.47 either on google, youtube, or here. there are loads of vids and tutorials
Also, there is a Q & A forum and would suggest you use that next time you have a question. You'll get your ass handed to you for posting in the dev section.
manville140 said:
1.47.165.1
I thought I could with this, because this is what the simpleroot software is showing in the program.
I did a full erase also last night with the volume down power button trick.
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Are you on IM? it will be easier than doing this in the forum? I'm on yahoo will that work for you?
regulator207 said:
search for simpleroot 1.47 either on google, youtube, or here. there are loads of vids and tutorials
Also, there is a Q & A forum and would suggest you use that next time you have a question. You'll get your ass handed to you for posting in the dev section.
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Yea I know. I didnt post this thread. i just posted IN it.
I tried simpleroot and it didnt work. I just wanted to confirm that it COULD work, instead of playing around with it aimlessly for hours. Only to find my phone was locked.
manville140 said:
Yea I know. I didnt post this thread. i just posted IN it.
I tried simpleroot and it didnt work. I just wanted to confirm that it COULD work, instead of playing around with it aimlessly for hours. Only to find my phone was locked.
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Simpleroot is the best option to root v1.47. Unrevoked has known issues, AVOID it. Simpleroot was made from my earlier posting & guide of manually rooting 1.47, so I know it works. WATCH THE VIDEO he made!! It practically cups your nuts the entire way thru the process with both PC & EVO screen videos. Once you do simpleroot, I recommened doing toast's part 2. Right after that do a nandroid backup. Then apply one of the rooted Froyo ROMs posted in the dev forum (there are both odex and deodex versions posted).
However (as already stated numerous times in numerous threads) if you apply the OTA update, your screwed.

[Q] Question/idea about getting root on stock Incredible with the OTA update.

So, I just got my DInc a few days ago and they did the OTA update at the store while setting up my phone. After 4 days of searching and trying to downgrade, I think I may have found, or figured out a way to downgrade to stock 2.2 without having s=off.
First thing is, the 2nd video on this thread shows how to downgrade if you did the unofficial OTA update, and provides a link for the files. Basically it seems to be a way to downgrade the hboot.
My question is this....if I was to follow that guide and do the down grade that way, would it be possible to the update zip from here, or use the one from this forum here, without basically bricking the phone?
I've rooted my fiances Droid 2 without any problems, and I've done a great deal of console modding and checking out firmware in computers and consoles and from what I gather, it seems that this would work in downgrading from the OTA update and being able to get root and not have problems. My problem is that I don't know much about the DInc enough to try it without an input from people that do know.
Any thoughts or ideas? Or anyone willing to try it and let me know? lol
Sorry for the outside links, but I couldn't find all the info on the forums here.
Unrevoked should have a solution to rooting the OTA ready for release within the next day or two. I'd wait for that rather than trying other untested methods.
That's possible, but then again, they may not be having any luck, or might come up with a similar mehod. Nothing is ever tested on the first try lol.
Im hoping someone else has either tried this, or knows enough about it to say if it will work or not. If I can get my phone rooted this way and not have to wait for Unrevoked to do it, that's ok with me lol.
It would work if you had an s-off hboot but I believe this method was already proven not to work with the s-on hboot as it doesn't allow downgrading. You'll get a message similar to "newer version found on device" or something to that effect.
Edit: The video in the link says you have to already be rooted to do this so no it won't work.
Not the first video, the 2nd one. Where it uses the sdk to push the files through.
enlightened79 said:
Unrevoked should have a solution to rooting the OTA ready for release within the next day or two. I'd wait for that rather than trying other untested methods.
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This is correct! Verified on my thread and verified on my twitter.

[Q] how do I completely wipe and recover without root 4.24 hboot 2.16

Someone tell me how I can clean my phone, I need to wipe it completely, and reinstall everything from scratch. Really wish I had rooted first, would have been alot easier, alot more resources for root.
Thariz said:
Someone tell me how I can clean my phone, I need to wipe it completely, and reinstall everything from scratch. Really wish I had rooted first, would have been alot easier, alot more resources for root.
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Menu>Settings>SD & Phone Storage>Factory Reset
let me repeat my question, and get more specific. I need to wipe all data off my phone, everything.
Then I need to get the OS back on it.
Can someone tell me if you can do this without root, I need to completely clear all partitions AFAIK and then get a new CLEAN UNHACKED OS onto my phone.
Factory reset is not enough
RUU is not enough (alone anyway)
I need to get the flashable regions of my phone totally clear of malicious code.
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I don't think you have any options without root...only other option without root is boot into bootloader and clear storage.
For curiousity, what did you do that you need to undo and how could you have pushed "malicious code" onto other partitions without root?
unless you work for HTC or know somone that does, i thnk you are pretty boned, even contacting them directly all ive gotten is the usual "it cant be done" line so ....just wait for the hboot to get hacked and do it then i suppose..
What Android version are you on and your phone is currently rooted correct?
He stated in original post that it is NOT rooted.
4.24 gb EVO
hacked as hell
i think it was rooted before not to my knowledge, and flashed. also calendar exploited via google, I hope i can get some help outside the dev forum, because I i know they dont like questions there, thats why im posting here instead.
cant clean it now that i have OTA'd to GB.
I am finding alot of cool app engines along my trials and tribulations. makes me wish I had not stopped working in security several years back.
Someone gonna give a guy a hand? I am as trustworthy as they come if you are worried about anything getting out and about.
If it was rooted before, go into the bootloader and check if it says S-ON or S-OFF. If it's S-OFF, you can flash a recovery and now you're rooted again.
If it's S-ON, no, you can't do anything right now.
yeah im screwed
i just love it when my camera and speaker come on and monitor me all day and night long.
Thariz said:
yeah im screwed
i just love it when my camera and speaker come on and monitor me all day and night long.
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Sigh...ok...I'll bite. Why do you think your phone is doing this? What evidence?
And does the tin foil mess up your hair?
i watch the logs, i see the mic and or cameras come on, i see the filesys filling where I cant go see it because im not root, i see the traffic as it xmits it from local host to local host, i see the traces of the encryption keys and stunnels. This is only one instance.
I hope there is someone around here who has something more to offer than the people outside the dev forums, im getting killed following the rules.
So let me get this straight and my apologizies for sounding confuzed becasue every reply has been all over the place and has been of no real help to you yet..
Your on GB version 4.24 correct? Previously Rooted without you knowing? Your trying to get back too 100% stock as well? I hope I'm following this so far.
1st, the easiest way, download Root Checker from the Market and that will tell you right off the bat if your rooted or not. If thats not possible, enter bootloader as stated before and verify S-Off at top of screen. If so, flash Amon_Ra Recovery (rename to PC36IMG.zip if not already and place on root of SD Card). Enter bootloader and let it scan, apply update and from there you can do what you need to do. If it says S-On but you know your rooted, go to xHausx Auto Root guide, download the Froyo 3.70.651 Stock rom and place on Root of Sd Card named PC36IMG.zip, enter bootloader, let it scan and apply update, that will take you too 100% stock Froyo with hBoot 2.10 and you can apply GB update if desired or root with whatever method of your choice.
Once again, sorry if this is not what you were wanting but its irritating when you get the run around and people talk about tin foil hats and ridiculous stuff...and agreed, very hard to follow rules when most replies are worthless.
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He stated in original post that it is NOT rooted.
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Read 1 post below yours, only way to figue out how to help is to know the details. Good 2 cents though.
I will give it a go, after I upgraded OTA it made me s-on, so i think im just screwed now.
I tried the ruu to go back but as you know it says too old files etc
i imagine this will do the same but i will try anything once, the guys at sprint gave me the go ahead to do whateever i need to do to try to backrev this thing, and if i brick it they will replace it so im up for ANYTHING PEOPLE
If you were originally s-off, the ota shouldn't have updated hboot. It can't turn you s-on, unless you reverse it yourself first..
Which means you were always s-on, and currently there is no way to assist you.
lets start over. are u S-OFF or S-ON? that will determine what ur options are.
Thariz said:
I will give it a go, after I upgraded OTA it made me s-on, so i think im just screwed now.
I tried the ruu to go back but as you know it says too old files etc
i imagine this will do the same but i will try anything once, the guys at sprint gave me the go ahead to do whateever i need to do to try to backrev this thing, and if i brick it they will replace it so im up for ANYTHING PEOPLE
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There isn't anything that can be done for you at the moment. You said your s-on which means your not rooted which in turn means your bootloader is locked and you can't install a recovery and install the files you need to fix your problem. So I would call Sprint and tell em your device is being defective.
pnewgaard said:
Read 1 post below yours, only way to figue out how to help is to know the details. Good 2 cents though.
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If you could read his original post, he said - it is currently not rooted - who cares if it was rooted before or not. He has S-ON = NOT rooted = he is out of luck...
That's my 3 cents

[Q] easiest way to unroot G2 to return

I own a T-mobile G2 and it has recently had a problem with the touch screen. I would not like to return it and get a new one because I am still under the warranty but i must unroot it first. I have tried to follow a few other posts about how to do this but none of them have worked. Now because of that i am still in cyanogen mod 7 but i have S-on. Could anyone lead me in the right direction
If you would, please post your hboot info so we can see where you are at and advise accordingly.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using Tapatalk
Got your back buddy. I just did this today WITH A BLACK SCREEN. I couldn't see anything going on, but it's THAT easy.
theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how-to-unroot-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision
You only need to do Step III. Ignore the hex editing part because if you do step II, you'll notice that Cyanogenmod has edited it already so you can easily just drop the zip file onto your sdcard and run it from your Pwr + Volume Down menu. Very very simple if you're running CM7.
Ask if you have any questions, but it really shouldn't matter...it was a joke (after I spent nearly three days researching how to install ADB for a G2 -- It's very, very complicated and unnecessary)
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Got your back buddy. I just did this today WITH A BLACK SCREEN. I couldn't see anything going on, but it's THAT easy.
theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how-to-unroot-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision
You only need to do Step III. Ignore the hex editing part because if you do step II, you'll notice that Cyanogenmod has edited it already so you can easily just drop the zip file onto your sdcard and run it from your Pwr + Volume Down menu. Very very simple if you're running CM7.
Ask if you have any questions, but it really shouldn't matter...it was a joke (after I spent nearly three days researching how to install ADB for a G2 -- It's very, very complicated and unnecessary)
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Link isn't working for me, is it working for anyone?
nik.the said:
Got your back buddy. I just did this today WITH A BLACK SCREEN. I couldn't see anything going on, but it's THAT easy.
theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how-to-unroot-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision
You only need to do Step III. Ignore the hex editing part because if you do step II, you'll notice that Cyanogenmod has edited it already so you can easily just drop the zip file onto your sdcard and run it from your Pwr + Volume Down menu. Very very simple if you're running CM7.
Ask if you have any questions, but it really shouldn't matter...it was a joke (after I spent nearly three days researching how to install ADB for a G2 -- It's very, very complicated and unnecessary)
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I'm in the exact same position at the moment, I have a black screen
nik.the could you please tell me the button combination I need to press once I put the stock rom on the SD root and turned the phone on (I know i got to hold vol down and power but that's it :S)
On another not it was such a painful process to root this Desire Z and with my past 3 HTC's needing repair I think I'll look at another brand after the life of this repaired phone ends.. this forum and dev support is the best thing HTC has going for it at the moment.
I went through that process (had to go through step II as well even though I was on CM), but it failed:
Upgrade process completed - stock rom got installed, bootscreen changed, etc, but i still have S-Off.
I really need to send the phone off for repairs today, any advice would be greatly appreciated...
(also not sure if i used gfree or visionary, but inclined to say i used this guide (says it uses visionary/gfree):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
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Link isn't working for me, is it working for anyone?
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The link works for me.
I used this method for the first time I had to return a G2 to T-mo. Worked for me.
iokke said:
I went through that process (had to go through step II as well even though I was on CM), but it failed:
Upgrade process completed - stock rom got installed, bootscreen changed, etc, but i still have S-Off.
I really need to send the phone off for repairs today, any advice would be greatly appreciated...
(also not sure if i used gfree or visionary, but inclined to say i used this guide (says it uses visionary/gfree):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
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I also still have S-off. I would also like an answer to this problem because I'll have to send this back within the week. I think I used Visionary first to perm root it then I used Gfree to unlock everything else.
From what i've read, T-Mobile doesn't seem to care that you have S-off, either that or they don't check. Many people have mentioned that they sent back unrooted phones still showing S-off and did not get charged for returning a rooted device.
I hope that's true. It gets a little tiring doing things like this and they never work out like I think they will. This phone is unrooted as far as I'm concerned. I can't do anything on it but I don't know if that is because it is basically unrooted or if it is because my power button is effed. When I'm in the bootloader can I not scroll down to recovery when the phone is unrooted?
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I hope that's true. It gets a little tiring doing things like this and they never work out like I think they will. This phone is unrooted as far as I'm concerned. I can't do anything on it but I don't know if that is because it is basically unrooted or if it is because my power button is effed. When I'm in the bootloader can I not scroll down to recovery when the phone is unrooted?
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i returned my wifes g2 to tmo last month. it was rooted, and the speaker quit working. just factory wiped and returned it. no big deal.
Well that's good news. I feel a little better but I'll still be stressing about that for a few weeks. lol
ok so for any1 on here need to get s-off back to s-on here is the stock part7back up
well sry can upload a .bin so if anyone know a way for me to getr it to you plz let me kniow
I think i still have the partition 7 backup. Do I just use gfree to get that back in there?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
Download the stock pc10img.zip and do it that way the use visionary to temp then use the part7back up to get s-on back and BAM back to stock s-on
And next time, it may behoove you to search. It would save you some time and avoid waiting for answers.
All of these ppl have asked this same question. I am sure you can find an answer if you have no already.
Yea u can search but why do that when the fourms are full of crap....better off asking.....just look at my last post that will fix ur prob guy
kitila said:
Yea u can search but why do that when the fourms are full of crap....better off asking.....just look at my last post that will fix ur prob guy
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I'll give that a shot thanks. And of course I searched but found a lot of conflicting information and old information. Best thing to do on a forum if you are unsure of something is to ask. Multiple "how too guides" doesn't always cut it.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
You can use gfree to s-off. There are detailed instructions in the wiki. Will need to be done on froyo so you can use the temp shell root.
nik.the said:
Got your back buddy. I just did this today WITH A BLACK SCREEN. I couldn't see anything going on, but it's THAT easy.
theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how-to-unroot-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision
You only need to do Step III. Ignore the hex editing part because if you do step II, you'll notice that Cyanogenmod has edited it already so you can easily just drop the zip file onto your sdcard and run it from your Pwr + Volume Down menu. Very very simple if you're running CM7.
Ask if you have any questions, but it really shouldn't matter...it was a joke (after I spent nearly three days researching how to install ADB for a G2 -- It's very, very complicated and unnecessary)
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i did exactly as said, but im still "s-off", i need to get s-on so i could return mine for a warranty swap, when i did the this process, shortly after i got 3 up dates, i installed them all hoping it will turn my s-on like some people where saying on other post, but no luck. now im 2.3.4 unrooted but still "s-off" ive been searching but there are different methods and some older post, not sure if i could try another one since i unrooted it using this method, any help please THANKS

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