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HTC: expect Desire to get Froyo 'beginning in Q3'

Finally a word from HTC!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/

Ahhh, you beat me! I rushed straight over from Engadget to tell you all the good news aswell!

Afro Az said:
Ahhh, you beat me! I rushed straight over from Engadget to tell you all the good news aswell!
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lolz, better luck when ginger comes out!
anyways, all that matters is the news is here!!

Beat me to it too!!
Great news. Although I wonder what they mean by "beginning IN Q3" (as opposed to "beginning of Q3"). I'm assuming it means that just one of those phones will see Froyo at some point in Q3. In which case, let's hope the Desire is the first. It should need the least work over the N1 compared to the others (I guess). Still, Q3 stretches all the way out to September. But great news nevertheless. Lets just hope they can deliver.

tifosi256 said:
Beat me to it too!!
Great news. Although I wonder what they mean by "beginning IN Q3" (as opposed to "beginning of Q3"). I'm assuming it means that just one of those phones will see Froyo at some point in Q3. In which case, let's hope the Desire is the first. It should need the least work over the N1 compared to the others (I guess). Still, Q3 stretches all the way out to September. But great news nevertheless. Lets just hope they can deliver.
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I guess its either going to be the Evo4G or the Desire, because they are the flagship devices from HTC at the moment, legend and the other ones will be getting it later on.

HTC after Google IO (when froyo was officialy shown to the world):
'Blablabla all 2010 models get froyo. We are STARTING with the Desire and Incredible. Other models as the Evo 4G will get it after.'
Off course they could have changed their strategy. But I am expecting froyo before the Legend and Wildfire.
Great news anyway, starting from a few days we could get froyo. I am sooooooooo F'in tired of the 'low internal memory' notification. I cant even open my SMS messages sometimes for the love of god! I mean, come on. My SMS messages -.-

XDA mark said:
HTC after Google IO (when froyo was officialy shown to the world):
'Blablabla all 2010 models get froyo. We are STARTING with the Desire and Incredible. Other models as the Evo 4G will get it after.'
Off course they could have changed their strategy. But I am expecting froyo before the Legend and Wildfire.
Great news anyway, starting from a few days we could get froyo. I am sooooooooo F'in tired of the 'low internal memory' notification. I cant even open my SMS messages sometimes for the love of god! I mean, come on. My SMS messages -.-
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lmao @ your signature!!

that means any time starting from next week

True that. I'm glad that the speculation can end now with the official statement. Let the waiting begin.

I am not convinced ... Q3 2010 ? or Q3 2011 ?
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This is great news Hope soon and polished

Hoping for July then

I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...

dragonithe said:
I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...
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Hopefully the HTC team learnt something from the Hero saga (i actually gave my hero back and got desire becuase of 2.1)

Well, technically, Q3 begins in 2 days.

dragonithe said:
I would love it to have in Q3, but we probably will get it as a xmas present ...
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Nee hoor
I think the competition has changed for HTC. Why would somebody pick up a 2.1 Desire when a 2.2 Motorola or Samsung device is right next to it? With the Hero they didn't have any big competition like now.
Btw, I have seen multiple people say that going from 2.1 to 2.2 is not so hard (compared from 1.5 to 2.1 with the Hero's hardware). Is this true?

Rage1ofakind said:
Hopefully the HTC team learnt something from the Hero saga (i actually gave my hero back and got desire becuase of 2.1)
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Yeah, not updating current phones increases our sales

Finally i hope it is soon

Just got my HTC Desire this week. Here's hoping to a quick update, i don't want to root it just yet for the Hebrew support if 2.2 (who has the fonts) is around the corner.

OMG!
I'll pray for this to happen man.
Srsly need the update.
you don't know how crazy it is.
I have never been a like phone freak, phone nerd of whatever you call it.
But since the desire and that froyo 2.2 video update thing
you just want the update badly.
And btw i tasted a real frozen yoghurt. And it just makes you sad.
cause you'll be like. If only this was inside my phone.
Seriously.
2.2 PLEASE!

Official Froyo for HTC Desire possibly in the beginning of August

Hi @ all
I know it wont be a 100% reliable news but I thought it would interest some of you.
A friend of mine ordered a HTC Desire at Sunrise (Swiss Operator). She was told that the delivery will be postponed to the beginning of August due to the fact that the device will be delivered with version 2.2 of Android aka Froyo.
That would mean that we could possibly get the official Froyo by the end of July for unbranded devices.
Hope the staff at Sunrise is reliable and the info is right!!!
We will know more in about one month.
Sorry if the news has already been posted before.
Sinerely,
Ascenca

Interesting

Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas

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Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Thanks für your reply.
I am aware of the shortage of AMOLED displays and the recent PR statement of HTC. I dont pretend my info is right, only wanted to share what I heard. Nevertheless I think August could be possible. The PR guy said that all newer devices (Desire, Legend, etc.) will get Froyo by Christmas. The HTC Desire being their top end device at the moment in Europe I assume it will get the update first. And I am quite sure that they wont provide the update to all devices at the same time. So lets hope for it to be true .
Ascenca

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Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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There's no timetable there at all - it just says that they'll be finished with Froyo updates before Xmas. Well, August is before Xmas, as is September, October, November and most of December!
What we do know is that HTC have gone on record to say that they are expecting the first updates to roll out in Q3, but we don't know which devices will get it first.
Regards,
Dave

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/htc-to-complete-android-2-2-roll-out-by-christmas/
Lets hope it's true and the Desire gets 2.2 in August before the other phones, but i must admit that 2.1 is great and i have no issues with it so am happy to wait whenever it comes out.

It takes time to port all of our applications over to Froyo and then make sure that it is running well on each of our devices. That’s not like a one week kind of project. We need to make sure that our applications are taking advantage of the Froyo features. To make sure that they’re all running properly on the OS now that it’s a new version. And then to make sure that it’s running on our hardware as well as we expect. I would believe that we would be done with our Froyo updates before Christmas.
This was an intervjue with Eric Lin HTC PR dude
Source http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained

That's no good. I'm going on holidays at the beginning of August lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

It seems alot of the replies in this thread don't take into account the fact that a HTC 2.2 test rom with sense has already been leaked to certain people and was mostly working. So HTC are pretty far along in development already.

Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca

Ascenca83 said:
I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
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Yes thats probably the reason. But it might make people not buying the Desire also and go for another brand like Samsung Galaxy S or even the Iphone 4 =P
Oh well, Im glad we have the Devs who get froyo roms out =)

Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.

Man, hope this better be true.
Sorry to sound so retardly geeky but it's been such a deep sadness for not being able to use the sdcard for applications. I'm sure you dudes feel the same!
Sent from my HTC Desire

jastonas said:
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
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About video recording not working: http://androidheadlines.com/2010/07/android-2-2-is-now-on-the-htc-desire-it-too-can-now-do-720p.html
Looks pretty functional to me

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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The only thing they have said is that they will be done BEFORE Christmas, that could be any time not precisely Christmas, it just gives them a window to allow for things to go wrong.

Another hint the update is not far of (statement from Eric Lin, global PR and online community Manager of HTC):
"I don't think you're going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it's a less severe change. Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn't make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
Source: the::unwierd
Ascenca

Anyone else getting irritated by HTC?

And there fake release date news for 2.2?

Me, me, me.... damn it HTC
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nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.

Yep been waiting all weekend! We should put a post when someone actually gets the 1st update from htc so we know!
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The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
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Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.

Nope, not at all. You'll get it when you get it. Chill.

wally80 said:
The weekend is not yet finished. So, I see no reasons to get upset.
And anyway, they might have really started to roll-out, as HTC Germany says.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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This. IIRC it was only Germany and NL that "officially" announced it was coming, so nobody else has the right to ***** anyway if it doesnt.

If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.

Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!

ix9 said:
nah
more irritated with google for not having App2SD functionality in the FIRST android release.
if it wasn't for the bogus 512mb "ROM limit" on installing apps, i wouldnt be awaiting froyo with such baited breath.
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What limited would that be, and because as far as i'm aware the limit is hardware - the Dell Streak running 1.6 has 2gb available for apps storage.
Regards,
Dave

I really think some people need to step away from the internet and go out and have some fun. If it's here when you get back then you can install; if it's not then not.
Surely an update to your mobile phone can not be the most important thing in your lives...

Not in the least bothered really when it comes, today, tomorrow, next week.
I already have Froyo and its running sweet.

How many stupid Desire users does it take to screw in a lightbulb ?
The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells and have to whinge about everything including the firmware release of a completely functional mobile phone. Even worse is the fact that two mouse clicks away is another section of the forum where they could easily download and run about a dozen versions of Android 2.2 hacked/packed/delivered with all the bells and whistles.
So people put the fu-king phone down, chill out, go outside and take a breath of fresh air. You will live longer ....
THE UPDATE WILL COME WHEN IT COMES..... Jumping up and down about it, checking the OTA update on the phone every 2 microseconds and making another 1.4 billion new threads won't make it appear any faster...
Next instalment in the new pointless thread forum - "I fu-ked up my phone when updating the OTA ! Help !!!", "Why won't the HTC OTA work on my Orange/Virgin/crap branded Desire" and my favourite "What's an OTA", oh and another "Anyone got Froyo Update?" (speak of the devil http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741397 )

NutsyUK said:
And there fake release date news for 2.2?
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Nope, not really. Pretty much every company releases dates then has to put it back to some extent, this is nothing new.

fredaroony said:
If I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought a iPhone.
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And your reason? Apple are on time with everything mate. Don't be such a hater lol

If i knew this I would never have bought Desire.

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The be honest I am more irritated by dumb-fu-ks who have more time than brain cells [....]
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you do have a point here. but: why do you get so angry?
you accuse them of having nothing else to do than wait for the froyo release. yet, you fail to convey this in an appropriate manner: In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
however, the way you get all angry about them raises the suspicion that you yourself have little else to do in your free time. complaining about them doesn't help anyone!

BuroBernd said:
In order to make them realize that they are poor souls (whose sole purpose in life is a phone software update), you better tell them in a way they don't perceive as *****ing and hating.
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Do explain ... I just didn't think I could convey it simply enough without sign language and hand puppets. I really was typing V e r y s l o w l y for those "special" members.
Btw, my tongue is deeply buried in my cheek

mortuus82 said:
Yeah but during weekend is not when its 1 minute over midnight to monday.. it should already been out so people can update whenever they feel like during the weekend.. stop the teasing and just get it out when its so close.
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i beleve they said the "roll out" would START this weekend, that says nothing about anyone actuall getting it this weekend :s do you know what the " roll out " involves? because i dont lol
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Of course I'm not irritated, I have a life!
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wow someone thats normal i thought i was the only one lol

Has HTC become Samsung? (SW Updates)

AS the title states, is HTC slowly becoming a Samsung clone, as about software updates?
I even sent a message to them 5 days ago, asking about delivery of official 2.3 and no response yet. WTF?
I bought an HTC phone (actually 3 in a row, Magic-Desire-Desire HD) cause i thought that they were much better than Samsung in support. That is why all of us bought their flagship phone.
Maybe is time to go for Atrix or Optimus 2X when they appear.

The simple answer is no, they wont.
You'll get 2.3 on your DHD eventually, just be patient! Would you rather they rush it and it be full of bugs, or they take their time and it be have less bugs?
If you want fastest updates trade DHD for Nexus S
PS - You think Samsung are bad? LG are worse!

thanks. but if Ns was available in Greece i would. The that has made me mad is that the aren't even answering at all.
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The simple answer is no, they wont.
You'll get 2.3 on your DHD eventually, just be patient! Would you rather they rush it and it be full of bugs, or they take their time and it be have less bugs?
If you want fastest updates trade DHD for Nexus S
PS - You think Samsung are bad? LG are worse!
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Google only recently released the source code, do you expect htc to port sence over night?

I don't think they should port sense overnight... but...its like nearly 2months now. What annoys me with HTC is you buy their latest flagship device, only to find you get gazzumped a couple of months later by a different device with a newer software..and makes you think is there any point in buying latest HTC handsets when this happens...or maybe its Googles fault, if they communicated better instead of saying at the end of the summer 'Gingerbread is on its way', and actually said when its arriving and on what etc ppl could make better choices.
Added to this is that by the time they do release an update, the phones a year old, theres newer ones...you get one...then its groundhog day again. No doubt HTC have another DHD coming out soon with a front facing camera bla bla bla anyway, and also i think the reason they take so long is that its not a priority to them, their priority is investing their resources in pushing out yet newer handsets just to snare new victims..
btw for anyone, i asked HTC about an update about 2 weeks ago, they told me they wont be releasing one and to contact my network carrier...network carrier pointed me back to HTC.
anyway , rant over

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I don't think they should port sense overnight... but...its like nearly 2months now. What annoys me with HTC is you buy their latest flagship device, only to find you get gazzumped a couple of months later by a different device with a newer software..and makes you think is there any point in buying latest HTC handsets when this happens...or maybe its Googles fault, if they communicated better instead of saying at the end of the summer 'Gingerbread is on its way', and actually said when its arriving and on what etc ppl could make better choices.
Added to this is that by the time they do release an update, the phones a year old, theres newer ones...you get one...then its groundhog day again. No doubt HTC have another DHD coming out soon with a front facing camera bla bla bla anyway, and also i think the reason they take so long is that its not a priority to them, their priority is investing their resources in pushing out yet newer handsets just to snare new victims..
btw for anyone, i asked HTC about an update about 2 weeks ago, they told me they wont be releasing one and to contact my network carrier...network carrier pointed me back to HTC.
anyway , rant over
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That's just how it works though.
You buy something and a few months later it's out of date.
It's the way of the tech world and has been for years.
There's no malice or trickery involved, it's just business.

CitizenLee said:
That's just how it works though.
You buy something and a few months later it's out of date.
It's the way of the tech world and has been for years.
There's no malice or trickery involved, it's just business.
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Maybe my insinuation of malice and trickery is a little unfair..but having said that, I guarantee if Id contacted HTC before buying the DHD in October and asked wld it get Gingerbread update they would have said 'sure, course you will, everyone gets updates'..knowing full well it wld take months and months to get the updates.
And if I'd contacted Google and said I was thinking of buying an android handest when is latest software gona be incorporated, they would have said 'we arent sure' just so I would get the DHD another registered android device for them...even though they know full well the likely release, and handsets that will release with it way in advance...so in a sense it is trickery, but guess thats business for you...neither wants to jeopardise a potential sale for their stats
so the snare is recoiled ready for the next victim

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I wonder how hard it can really be... they probably just dont have any friggen (unit/automation) tests. The API from 2.2 to 2.3 has barely changed. Imagine you had to wait for a new Ubuntu release just to get a kernel update...
Given they managed to screw up the 1.72 release and havent even uploaded the source code for that kernel, does not make me very enthusiastic about actually seeing 2.3 out anytime in the next 6-9 months.

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I wonder how hard it can really be... they probably just dont have any friggen (unit/automation) tests. The API from 2.2 to 2.3 has barely changed. Imagine you had to wait for a new Ubuntu release just to get a kernel update...
Given they managed to screw up the 1.72 release and havent even uploaded the source code for that kernel, does not make me very enthusiastic about actually seeing 2.3 out anytime in the next 6-9 months.
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I'm sure if enough people emailed htc and quoted the gpl, htc would have to release the source, after all it states the source should be made availible on request
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chrisr27 said:
What annoys me with HTC is you buy their latest flagship device, only to find you get gazzumped a couple of months later by a different device with a newer software..and makes you think is there any point in buying latest HTC handsets when this happens...or maybe its Googles fault, if they communicated better instead of saying at the end of the summer 'Gingerbread is on its way', and actually said when its arriving and on what etc ppl could make better choices.
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The software updates all work on about a 6 month cycle (give or take). It's made very clear from the outset that new software is in the pipelines, they just don't set a concrete date, they just simply release it when it's ready.
The same can be ready for HTC. They're actually good with a lot of their updates in comparison to a lot of manufacturers. There are a few devices which never even got an update to 1.6.
HTC will release an update when it's ready.
If you don't want to wait, install a CyanogenMod ROM.

I think other manufacturers can only learn from HTC..
for example, OTA with Froyo came to Desire in August 2010, this is some 3 months after Google released it..
DHD is still HTC's flagship and I think we will get 2.3 in some 2-3 months

Bear in mind that apart from the Nexus S no one is running an official Gingerbread build yet, so it's not as if HTC are behind the curve here so please get some perspective

Guys, it has been mentioned already but I just want to add that I have also read a report saying that 2.3 will be available in 6 months aprox. after initial release. Best strategy IMO, don't bother checking or thinking about it as it won't help and it will become obsession.

AndroHero said:
I'm sure if enough people emailed htc and quoted the gpl, htc would have to release the source, after all it states the source should be made availible on request
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To have to request the source, violates the GPL. The fact that it is not immediately available upon release also violates the GPL.

so HTC just answered to ma my email:
Thank you for contacting us
We re excited about our upcoming updates, as for the Android 2.3 update, certrainly some of our phones will be receiving this upgrade, however, for the time being, there’s no information regarding which phones will be receiving it nor the schedule of its release.
Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx, you'll find a toll free number that you can dial only from a landline.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number
Sincerely,
Amr
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Gingerbread only runs on Nexus S at the moment... You won't expect it to be here, one DHD that soon. At least wait for SGS to have it first.

Good-bye (and thanks for all the fish...)

After yesterday's disapointing release I finally bit the bullet and got a new 'phone from my network operator. I was offered a choice between the HTC sensation and the Samsung Galaxy II and I went for the latter mainly because I was not impressed with the HTC approach to the GB update. I will move to reading their section in xda.
To all those that have helped me either through lurking on their threads or by answering my questions I just wanted to say thank-you!

Enjoy your new phone! Although I didn't think Samsung are any better at updates lol
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Laters!
if you want updates you need to go Nexus really.
Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
Failing that you just need to go AOSP with a custom rom - which you can do on almost any handset.
Perhaps you should address your goodbye to HTC directly

here you are
Flashlight

Have you heard of custom roms?

Mates just let him be

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Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!

Well update to Gb which HTC released is in my opinion great cause they just do everything they were able to port GB to desire and than just released it for developers. For some time we will have great custom roms with official Gb, alreadywe have SuperNova by Droidzone.
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killerofsniper said:
Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!
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The greener the grass the more s*it it contains

I love my Desire
I love the my Desire, and pretty sure it is going to be the Android phone I would use for at least 1.5 years.
The main reason being there are so many Desire users, the ROMs just keep coming and getting better.

Like op i've moved from a desire to a sgs2 for many reasons, mainly my contract was up and I didn't like the lag on the sensation screen! But what gets me is how many people keep going on about custom roms for the desire. Of course there are loads the phone is old in tech year's, I'm sure the same will happen to the sgs2 in about 6 months, but to be honest I don't find much difference between the 2 apart from never having to think about how many applications I can have. Ie running out of memory! As they say you pay ya money and make ya choice.
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I was thinking of selling my desire and buy a Sensation but when I read all those user comments about all the issues I changed my mind, sensation still have that nice look, but when we talk about software I cant say the same of what I hear, now I dont know what to do to keep desire and wait until they release some new phone wich will work normal, or give up of HTC and buy some other brand with android.

Lothaen said:
Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
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True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
I got the Desire based on this, and know I feel they flipped the finger, so I can't really blame OP for ditching HTC.

I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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helterskelter said:
True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
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Afaik Gingerbread was delivered 6 hours behind the schedule and Sense 2.1 was never mentioned by any credible source of information, but as it seems you collect your info from the same people who scream that release on their page is beta I kind of understand where you got that.
Thermaltake868 said:
to give up of HTC and buy some other band with android.
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I think this would be the most plausible choice.

lordjester said:
I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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If I remember Google said 18 months where hardware allows....
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Enjoy your next phone. I will also change my desire for the new SGSII. I have many problems with the desire´s motherboard.
Ciao

I love when people talk about companies "promising" something and then moan when it doesn't happen. Reminds me of the old days in the school playground...
From what I can see, HTC did thier best to deliver, but unfortunately the constraints of the device stopped them being able to do more. What do people expect them to do, come over and upgrade the memory in each phone?
Some people just want the moon on a stick.

Note to OP, it's 'so long' not 'good-bye'