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[Q] Moving from WM6.5 to Epic 4G, suggestion?

Let me first tell you about myself.
1. I'm a geek.
2. I don't like programming that much, so I avoid it. I learn stuff to get by, but yes I avoid it. I have access to both XP & Linux, running it as a PDC server at home along w/ VPN server (ClearOS w/ modified bridge OpenVPN ).
Some background about myself that may help you answered my question, or pointing in the right correct direction. (no middle finger to the right.) And here is past experience on mobile device.
I have used Nokia 770 and N800, fun to hack back then but it's pretty useless now. I had SERO 500 , which I just recently upgraded to SERO Premium 500. I have been using HTC TP2 w/ Energy ROM. It has been good, granted TP2 is an older phone w/ older Qualcomm CPU. Energy ROM did help a lot, along w/ a few tweak, I manage to keep the battery to last pretty long and upon boot up I got about 70% memory left to use. So, I'm not exactly new to the custom ROM myself. That said, I'm new to the Android phone and custom ROM. I have been reading in the past 2 weeks deciding between Epic 4G and EVO Shift 4G. Well, I end up w/ Epic 4G as a final choice. Already ordered the phone, but still waiting for it. So, I don't have Epic 4G as off right now. But I would like to start playing w/ it once I get a hold of it. That's why I end up here asking for some wisdom in this forum.
After doing some research, I think I think get the basic concept of flashing custom ROM on a new Epic phone. If I got it wrong, let me know.
prep step 0. get USB drivers.
1. root it, 2 steps root?
2. install CWM3 for recovery.
3. flash new ROM, appearance each chef have difference instruction for the install. That's where it start confusing me.
Few things that are unclear to me, should I update PRL prior to rooting it and flash new ROM or after? Or should I even put DK28 on it prior to start rooting it? I'm guessing a no on 2nd one, as it's not necessary.
Now, rough question, what ROM is close in term of the way it package that most closed to the Energy ROM. I'm leaning toward either Nebula or Bonsai. Since Epic is only on Sprint only, I'm sure some of you have use TP2 or might have even used Energy ROM in the past. If you haven't, I'm sure you know where to look for reference. Again, what I very looking for is a Froyo ROM(if not Gingerbread) that's clean, lean, snappy and stable. In fact I don't even care if the Samsung TouchWiz is totally removed. I even think I might like Touch Flo interface better, but I suppose I won't have it. I think I have read enough to know where to find the TouchWiz apk(s) and remove it, so that's not a big problem.

Welcome to android your steps are 1.get drivers 2 dl one click root plus cwm. Once you have it rooted with cwm you can start flashing. If you want to go to the froyo leak then flash the upgrade first then start the root process. If you go with froyo,which I love it and I have bonsai rom and it works perfect, you have some choices when rooting. If you want to stay with the stock Rfs filing system use the one click with cwm v2.5. If you want to run ext4filing system then run the one click root with cwm3. This new clockwork will convert your filing system to ext4 for you. My setup is in my sig and is my favorite. It's up to you to pick the rom you like the best. Make sure before you root turn your USB debugging on. Good luck and welcome to android.

In addition to what was posted, Nrgz is a great chef. I used his stuff for quite some time when I had my TP2.
That being said.. WinMo and Android are 2 different animals.
I think you'll find that you're going to flash each ROM and play with it for a few days to determine which one you prefer.
They are all very nice in their own right. Some of us have favs. The neat thing about android vs WinMo is that after you flash a ROM in Winmo, it's a big pain in the ass to set your device back up (if you weren't using custom scripts).. with android, it's much much easier and can be completed within a couple minutes.
I think you'll enjoy that aspect of it.
Welcome to Android

I'm making the same transition as you, long live the TP2. I followed the how-to recommended by the wiki, but a lot of that is actually a waste of time at this point, except as a learning experience. The steps that actually got me ROMed (I'm assuming you'll pick an Ext4/DK28 ROM:
1. install 32-bit drivers on Windows
2. put phone into debug, connect
3. flash DK28 to phone using ODIN
4. copy zip for ROM of choice to root of sdcard
5. run cwm3 to change file system, root device
6. flash with custom ROM while in recovery
From what I understand, only steps 4 and 6 will have to be repeated when trying other ROMs. Wifi tethering isn't working for me on ViperROM, so I think I'll try something else.

A new guy's stupid questions:

Please be patient with me, I'm new to the entire smartphone era.
I've spent the last week or so scouring these forums deciding what I can and cannot do with my brand new Epic. What I unfortunately was unable to find were directions put into laymans terms as exactly how to properly flash your phone (I am still even unsure as to the correct terminology for many things). When I read the wiki and the forums I'm lost about a paragraph in.
It would be incredibly appreciated if any of you had tips for a new person to these forums and to this lifestyle itself. I'd love to know how to properly modify my phone without breaking it (and not feel like I'm reading a medical dictionary). When/if I do mod my phone, I'd like to know how to go about restoring it should I for whatever reason need to take it in to the extremely... helpful.. Sprint store here in my area. I'm pretty quick to learn and as I said, I'd really love if someone willing to be patient with me would explain to me the ins and outs I would need to know to take advantage of my phones capabilities.

Well most roms now use ext4 filesystem instead of RFS (default) so you have to install Clockwork Mod 3 which will auto convert it
CWM3 directions:
Download Here
On phone go to applications -> development -> usb debugging (turn on)
plug phone into usb port, run the run.bat from the CWM folder (it might say something like restart server and wait for phone to reconnect i generally just close the window and run the run.bat again then it'll mount as r/w and install)
Then after your phone reboots transfer any ec05 ext4 rom to your sdcard, i suggest This one.
After that turn off your phone completely.
Hold volume down, camera button, power. This will boot into clockworkmod.
CWM will backup all data, format, then restore the data... it'll take a few minutes.
Now if you want to start fresh click wipe data / wipe cache and also go to advanced/wipe dalvic cache. If you want to keep all your apps just proceed to the next step
go to Install from sdcard, browse sdcard for the rom.zip, select it, let it do its magic, after its done go back to the main menu, reboot system, and you're done
EDIT: Cwm controls -> volume up/down to naviage, Power = back, Camera = select. I think you can also use the keyboard arrows and stuff but i find it easier using the buttons

I think you should start him with cw2.5 instead of 3.0. 3.0 will brick his phone unless he is ready to flash a rom right alway!!

Those directions are much easier to follow.
What are the negatives to doing this to your phone (besides the ultimate brick)? Would doing this allow me to give my phone the ability to hotspot it?
How would I go about restoring it should I not like Syndicate and wish to return to stock?

OmegaMateria said:
Those directions are much easier to follow.
What are the negatives to doing this to your phone (besides the ultimate brick)? Would doing this allow me to give my phone the ability to hotspot it?
How would I go about restoring it should I not like Syndicate and wish to return to stock?
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If I was you I wouldn't be in such a rush to flash a rom. Root first and take from there. It took me a whole month to flash a rom before I felt comfortable with the terminology. Catch up on some reading first

hi I also am still new to this even though i flashed my phone at least a 100 times and got my buddys epic rooted i followed this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067. they did a great job with links to get cwm2.5 and also the adb files. so when you root your phone the computer will find your phone. One thing that did keep me held up for a while was when you have your phone in debug mode. connect the phone to the usb. but do not press connect on your phone. hope this helps some. I spent about 3 long days reading and gathering everything before trying and like a day and a half trying.

shook187 said:
If I was you I wouldn't be in such a rush to flash a rom. Root first and take from there. It took me a whole month to flash a rom before I felt comfortable with the terminology. Catch up on some reading first
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You're probably very right.
What permissions does rooting get me? To root my phone I should use clockwork or something different? If so, you suggested 3.0 and someone else 2.5. Opinions on both for a newbie?

shook187 said:
I think you should start him with cw2.5 instead of 3.0. 3.0 will brick his phone unless he is ready to flash a rom right alway!!
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No such thing will occur. He might get it into a position of where he can only use odin but certainly not a brick. I have heard of only 1 person bricking their phone in 6 mths and that was a dev cuz he was messing with the bootloader. Jump in at your own pace.
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OmegaMateria said:
You're probably very right.
What permissions does rooting get me? To root my phone I should use clockwork or something different? If so, you suggested 3.0 and someone else 2.5. Opinions on both for a newbie?
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I never suggested 3.0, I would do 2.5. 3.0 Requires you to flash a rom cause it won't boot without a rom. If you use 3.0 without flushing a rom, you'll get stuck at the samsung screen.

shook187 said:
I never suggested 3.0, I would do 2.5. 3.0 Requires you to flash a rom cause it won't boot without a rom. If you use 3.0 without flushing a rom, you'll get stuck at the samsung screen.
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Sorry, my mistake!!
I'll check out 2.5. Anything I should know about rooting in general?

OmegaMateria said:
Sorry, my mistake!!
I'll check out 2.5. Anything I should know about rooting in general?
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The main thing which you already mention is the free wireless tether.

CWM 2.5.5 = the RFS root method. You can use it to install EC05 roms that have RFS support
It allows you to run programs with superuser... such as wifi tether, wireless tether, titanium backup, root explorer... thats about it for the basic user
If you want tweaks/fixes what you want is a custom rom... most all will have
Call log fix (remove the sms notifications from in your call log), Kernel fixes/updates/added features, deodexed, zipaligned, custom boot animations, voodoo audio/color, custom touchwiz, etc..
You wont brick your phone regardless, but if you do it exactly as i typed you wont have any problems either . The reason you want to put a rom on your sdcard before you boot into CWM3 is so you can flash a compatible rom that has a ext4 kernel...
EDIT: and regarding the negatives, well you wont brick your phone unless say your battery dies as you flash it... The ext4 non-journaled will actually make your phone last longer over the RFS system. The only thing I can think of is the root method removes the Free HD games and Asphalt 5 Demo which the official OTA updates check for when u get them. Doesn't matter though because you can update your rom through CWM anyways lol.
About positives, atleast for me: Longer battery life, faster phone, less annoying bugs, sexy look, custom boot/shutdown, free wifi tether/wired tether, automatic backups set every night at 5am.

I went straight to cwm 3.0.0.6 as a noob but I must have read 1000 posts in various forums regarding root, the file system(s), custom software/ROMs/kernels. The key is read post after post about where others have had issues until you no longer come accross any new issues. Then you know what you are getting into. Just remeber, glitches can occur and during flashing, there are writes that have no error checking and sometimes require a reflash at best and a system restore at worst. It comes with the territory. It is unlikely you will brick your device as long as you are careful to follow insructions, although the reality is (no matter how many times you hear how safe it is) that there is a very very slight chance that a glitch while using software such as odin could send you back to the Sprint store for a new one. Its exceedingly rare, though.
The small risk was worth getting the phone that I wanted originally - instant responsivness, access to every customization and dev. level control of the hardware (free tethering!) - everything runs better - games,browsers,vids (look better and sound better), music sounds better, etc. Etc. There are some seriously talented devs. here. If you decide to take the plunge, check out k0's ACS Frozen ROM and mysteryEmotionz (sp?) Theme(s). When you go from stock to those, you can't help but wonder WTF sprint and samsung are thinking. Yeah, its that good.
Good luck!
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blu9987 said:
CWM 2.5.5 = the RFS root method. You can use it to install EC05 roms that have RFS support
It allows you to run programs with superuser... such as wifi tether, wireless tether, titanium backup, root explorer... thats about it for the basic user
If you want tweaks/fixes what you want is a custom rom... most all will have
Call log fix (remove the sms notifications from in your call log), Kernel fixes/updates/added features, deodexed, zipaligned, custom boot animations, voodoo audio/color, custom touchwiz, etc..
You wont brick your phone regardless, but if you do it exactly as i typed you wont have any problems either . The reason you want to put a rom on your sdcard before you boot into CWM3 is so you can flash a compatible rom that has a ext4 kernel...
EDIT: and regarding the negatives, well you wont brick your phone unless say your battery dies as you flash it... The ext4 non-journaled will actually make your phone last longer over the RFS system. The only thing I can think of is the root method removes the Free HD games and Asphalt 5 Demo which the official OTA updates check for when u get them. Doesn't matter though because you can update your rom through CWM anyways lol.
About positives, atleast for me: Longer battery life, faster phone, less annoying bugs, sexy look, custom boot/shutdown, free wifi tether/wired tether, automatic backups set every night at 5am.
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I went into the run.bat file in the one click root and removed the 2 lines that give the command to delete the free hd games demo and asphalt 5 demo. Ran the one click root, and I still have those 2 installed on my phone. Beats having to reinstall them again in the future and preventing an update because of the missing apps.

Tirregius said:
I went straight to cwm 3.0.0.6 as a noob but I must have read 1000 posts in various forums regarding root, the file system(s), custom software/ROMs/kernels. The key is read post after post about where others have had issues until you no longer come accross any new issues. Then you know what you are getting into. Just remeber, glitches can occur and during flashing, there are writes that have no error checking and sometimes require a reflash at best and a system restore at worst. It comes with the territory. It is unlikely you will brick your device as long as you are careful to follow insructions, although the reality is (no matter how many times you hear how safe it is) that there is a very very slight chance that a glitch while using software such as odin could send you back to the Sprint store for a new one. Its exceedingly rare, though
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Yeah I've spent the entire week when not at work reading about it to see if it's worth it. I have a hard time following the directions I find though because they're normally written for experienced folks and not beginners.
Apart from Rooting it (as explained very well earlier) I still have no clue about flashing, how it works, or how to do it. Nor do I want to just fiddle around with it and break it. I can't find a good guide on ODIN or backing up that I can understand comfortably enough to risk flashing my phone so I'm kindof at a loss.

Go on YouTube and search "randyshear". He has step by step videos for pretty much everything. Makes it easy
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OmegaMateria said:
Yeah I've spent the entire week when not at work reading about it to see if it's worth it. I have a hard time following the directions I find though because they're normally written for experienced folks and not beginners.
Apart from Rooting it (as explained very well earlier) I still have no clue about flashing, how it works, or how to do it. Nor do I want to just fiddle around with it and break it. I can't find a good guide on ODIN or backing up that I can understand comfortably enough to risk flashing my phone so I'm kindof at a loss.
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I was the same way and to some degree still am. What I did was read and read. I read the WIKI several times realizing that a lot of it was written for someone more experienced than I. I also read how to restore a bricked device and return to stock a few times. I installed everything to return to stock on my PC so if I had a failure I already had my path back to working stock. I went to CM 2 just to get some experience. Then I went for it to CM 3 and Syndicate 1.0 and have been incredibly happy that I did.
Also know that terms like brick are used a lot but is then followed up with my phone will do this or that. In the definitions a brick is literally as good as a brick for a phone. The term is used way too much incorrectly so don't let that scare you. You will see when reading that there are only a few things to do if there is a problem. Frequently you will read to re download the files or use a different cable or USB port. If you keep reading you will become more comfortable with your ability to find the answers if there is a problem because there are people on here that seem to take great joy in helping people like you and I out and they have the experience and knowledge to help.

Trust me ... keep reading and searching and you will start to put the pieces together. Don't be discouraged. If you are really interested in this stuff, you WILL get there.
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Definitely agree with JohnCorleone, Randyshear has a ton of very good youtube vids. Helpful with rooting also with picking a ROM. Just to add my two-cents. The "epic cookbook" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967014...Helped me over and over again. alot of info, without alot of scavenging throughout threads. Good luck

There is no need to flash a rom right off the bat. Rooting with one click will give you a good jumping point. I would one click root to cw3 let it convert to ext4 then do a backup. Use titanium backup to remove all the junk bloatware.
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How to hack / modify Desire Kernels???

Hi all!
I have spent over half an hour searching but to no avail so thought I'd ask here, how are the kernels hacked or modified?
When it comes to the real tech stuff I'm a bit lost, and to be honest before I stumbled across this site I knew nothing about making custom ROMS, but thanks to all of you out there, you have taught me loads without me asking much, so its here I need to ask!
Thanks in advance for your time & replies,
Arty.

just search the web for "linux kernel" the android kernel is a linux one.
when you know a bit about linux kernel you can add kernel mods to it, as in android.
you just need to download the source of the kernel modify it and compile it than.
hope this helped a bit
ps.: and if you dont have the source you have to be a tech/kernel genius like -snq

Thanks for your reply there crendot!
I was afraid I'd have to know about Linux stuff, which to be quite honest I dont!
I have messed about with a Ubuntu Virtual Machine in the past (when I first read how to root the Desire) but I find it too difficult to understand, I'm much more at home with the old DOS commands personally!
Only reason I ask is that my fone is playing up and has overheating / reboot loop issues with anything greater than Android 2.2 (since it came back from repair when I dropped it & cracked the screen completely) and so far I am stuck with my own slightly customed Rooted 2.2 with standard features (no 4-in-1 menu, no wake & unlock on trackpad and the DSP manager wont work) also, I have not yet tested it, but I know only a few kernels will let me send & recieve MMS, the previous build was a lightly customed LeeDrOiD_V3.0.8.2_GB_A2SD ROM, but alas kept bootlooping after it became warm and I found I couldnt do much with it :-(
I am hoping to get a shiney new Sensation soon, but until then I wanted to know how to modify the kernel to add / remove stuff!
Is there an easy way to take a kernel file & be able to 'read' it so I could copy the stuff I need into the stock kernel at all, or is that my wishfull thinking again?
Thanks again & sorry about the long reply!
Arty.

to understand what a kernel for the desire is, u can download the stock one on the htcdev.com site http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
for example u can download the latest for our desire: "HTC Bravo – GB MR – 2.6.35 kernel source code"
that is the source code..u will see there are thousands of .c files...is not easy at all modify the kernel..it requires strong skills on linux and C language
about the send sms and mms, that is related to the rom and ur apn settings i think..not to the kernel..the kernel handle very low level actions..
maybe u would like to make custom roms..this is a bit much easy if u just cook it for example with the android kitchen (search for it)..the rom contain the kernel and the operating system and some apps

so lets check the facts!
did the phone overheat when it came back from repair (with stock rom)?
or have you flashed the new rom instant?
i would say you save all your stuff and do a nandroid backup.
than you follow this instructions to flash the rooted stock 2.2 rom and the radio
if the problem is still there i would say its a hardware problem, if not you can try other roms as long as no problems occure
dont play around with kernels, you dont have to, the stable kernels are in the roms
if they arent stable for you its not the kernels fault
i guess something messed up while you flashed something...
ps.: if you have absolutly no linux skills and so on, i would say you read into that before playing around with your mobile ^^

andQlimax:
Thanks for your reply also!
I know the APN settings for the mobile data & the MMS as I have written them down, the strange thing is I rooted my fiancee's Desire with the same ROM I was using at the time & she couldnt send or recieve MMS either (I'm O2 and she on Orange, both contract) and I have only found a few custom ROMs that allow the sending & recieving of MMS messages.
Also, I can make custom ROM's, I use Android Kitchen for most of the stuff (such as de-odexing, adding root, bash, busy box etc) but I find mostly when I bake the ROM using the kitchen I have errors on install, so I just prefer to use the kitchen for adding the needed stuff, then I'll just use windows to add / remove apps, boot animations & the audio files I want and just zip it myself & flash which has a higher success rate if I'm honest!
crendot:
so lets check the facts!
Q: did the phone overheat when it came back from repair (with stock rom)?
A: No, I didnt have stock ROM on, I still had either LeeDroid HD or a HD InsertCoin ROM, which when I got the phone back I did a nandroid restore (I make them quite regular & copy them to my PC for extra piece of mind!)
Q: or have you flashed the new rom instant?
A: I also have installed an untouched ROM(untouched by me) a day or so after as the nandroid backup wasnt the version I wanted, I was due to be on holiday to Blackpool for a week, so I flashed the LeeDrOiD_V3.0.8.2_GB_A2SD ROM on both my desire & my fiancee's desire, hers was stable, mine I couldnt have the screen on for long before it got too hot (managed about 5 picture captures before I had to turn screen off for a while or it got too hot) then thing is, my fiancees gets got too, mine is the metal holders for the memory & sim cards, i either have to place something cold on them like a glass or even hold a fan to it for a few minutes until it cools down again!
Q:i would say you save all your stuff and do a nandroid backup.
than you follow this instructions to flash the rooted stock 2.2 rom and the radio
A:My current ROM is the standard one after downgrading HBOOT & using Unrevoked, but I used the phone's update feature to update everything to 2.2, then I rooted it and all works fine, BUT, if I add any modifications, like circle battery it is too much for the phone & gets too hot & power cycles, it gets to the boot anim then automatically reboots again, it can do this for about half hour before it works again, but I mostly just pull the battery & put something cold on the affected area! Yesterday I put my fone in the freezer for 10 mins, but using even the most basic customisation was getting hot again so I reverted back.
Q:if the problem is still there i would say its a hardware problem, if not you can try other roms as long as no problems occure
I have tried a number of other ROM's, but I think I will just stick with what I know works for now!
Q:dont play around with kernels, you dont have to, the stable kernels are in the roms if they arent stable for you its not the kernels fault
A: thanks for that, think I'll leave them alone for now lol!
Q: i guess something messed up while you flashed something...
A: Nothing went wrong with the flashing, as Ive done it so much in the past year or so I know what its sucessfull or not!
Q: ps.: if you have absolutly no linux skills and so on, i would say you read into that before playing around with your mobile ^^
A:Thanks!
I really dont know what the cowboys done with my fone, but they have totally screwed it up, the microphone dont work and I have to almost eat the damn thing n shout, even then sometimes nobody can hear me! The WiFi signal is horrendous since it came back, can only get a full signal if I sit on top of the router, so using the WiFI out of the room is now out of the question! I also noticed they had cut off or pulled off something that I am convinced is the WiFi aerial, it sits just under the flash, a black tab it looks like, they insist they didnt do it, I KNOW otherwise!
When I first saw the phone, the back cover wouldnt fit on & it looked like they hadnt installed everything right, so they had it back as also the in-call speaker didnt work either, there are still outstanding problems, but as I have left it so long (main shop in Glasgow, me in Paisley with no way of getting there myself) I doubt they will do anything about it, i am SOO angry there isnt a swear word I dont shout every time the bloody fone hets hot & power cycles!
Again thanks for all your replies & sorry for the essay lol!
Arty.

hi, ok it really sounds like they have messed up your little desire!
first of all i want to apologize i thought you dont have a clue about anything ^^
so i would suggest you try to flash a new radio maybe the 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 helps, if you have it on your mobile reflash it just to be sure(if you have a different hboot, you have to do it with fastboot)
if this didnt help, i would say you try to flash the RUU
and when that fails i would start yelling at the customer support
wish you the best
ps.: i just started thinking if it is maybe the battery, change it with a/the other one

A few questions before rooting...

I am going to root my phone and have a few questions before I do. I am coming from a sensation and with the htc I only had 1 way to root so are any of the methods better or worse than others? I was planning on using to root injected stock rom method.
Secondly, I've read and still don't understand, could somebody explain the loss of imei to me? Htc doesn't have anything like that so I am confused about the backup of it?
Finally, could somebody suggest a good starting point for a rom and kernel combo? Unlike my htc I'm pretty happy with the stock rom sped and battery. I mainly want to tweak the looks of things a little, maybe a new battery icon and moving the clock position.

Best way to root is the video in my signature (use my files, too). It's easier and faster than the way you describe. I wish people would forget that stupid flash counter exists. It's not like we can't reset it.
Loss of IMEI very rarely happens when you flash. But, once you flash CM10, just run the terminal emulator that comes with it: su > reboot nvbackup. Now your IMEI is backed up, and you are protected against possible, but unlikely, loss. I've flashed every day for two months and never lost mine.
Rom: Why use ICS when you can use JB? IMO, the sole reason to use an ICS build is wifi calling. Use CM10. Use the stock CM kernel. CM doesn't have center clock (AOKP does), but IMO, CM is the better of the two. A lot of people like to flash custom kernels. They usually provide marginally better battery life, overclocking/undervolting, etc. I feel that none of these are necessary. There is an additional problem that the 3rd party kernels always lag behind CM's kernel merges, also. This typically results bootloops. So make sure the kernel you flash (if you do), is compatible with the newest CM build.

No the method does not matter, root is root. Read about them and use the one you are comfortable with.
Yes, HTC does have IMEI. All GSM phones do. It is basically the serial number your phone uses to connect to the network. All you have to do is follow the instructions in one of the threads to back it up.
For stock based ROMs on ICS, I like Wanamlite.

Aerowinder said:
Best way to root is the video in my signature (use my files, too). It's easier and faster than the way you describe. I wish people would forget that stupid flash counter exists. It's not like we can't reset it.
Loss of IMEI very rarely happens when you flash. But, once you flash CM10, just run the terminal emulator that comes with it: su > reboot nvbackup. Now your IMEI is backed up, and you are protected against possible, but unlikely, loss. I've flashed every day for two months and never lost mine.
Rom: Why use ICS when you can use JB? IMO, the sole reason to use an ICS build is wifi calling. Use CM10. Use the stock CM kernel. CM doesn't have center clock (AOKP does), but IMO, CM is the better of the two. A lot of people like to flash custom kernels. They usually provide marginally better battery life, overclocking/undervolting, etc. I feel that none of these are necessary. There is an additional problem that the 3rd party kernels always lag behind CM's kernel merges, also. This typically results bootloops. So make sure the kernel you flash (if you do), is compatible with the newest CM build.
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Thanks for the reply, CM10 wasn't officially supported with the htc so it never really worked great, but it looks like the M version is pretty smooth and ironed out so I'll definitely try that. I guess a lot of the threads I've read were early ones from before the flash counter could be reset, I thought it was a bigger deal than it seems like it is. I'll try your sig's root method. Oh yeah, wifi calling doesn't work for me right now with the stock rom so losing it isn't a big deal at all.
joshnichols189 said:
No the method does not matter, root is root. Read about them and use the one you are comfortable with.
Yes, HTC does have IMEI. All GSM phones do. It is basically the serial number your phone uses to connect to the network. All you have to do is follow the instructions in one of the threads to back it up.
For stock based ROMs on ICS, I like Wanamlite.
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I wasn't saying HTC doesn't have imei, I was saying in a year of having it and before with the G2 I never once read any threads about people "losing" it, so I wanted to know what makes the s3 different.

That was SOOOO much easier than the sensation was. The senny took me over an hour, I had to learn adb and had to check and recheck a ton of commands before entering each to make sure I didn't brick anything. This was fast and easy, but now I can't seem to get into twrp recovery? Every time I try vol up/home/power it boots into what I'm assuming is the standard stock recovery?

My signature has an explanation for that.

Thanks again, I don't understand why but I installed cwm touch and it worked and then used goo manager to install twrp again and now it works fine. I know there's a whole thread about twrp but what do you like and why?

I stopped using TWRP because the keyboard (at least at the time) didn't work properly. It would close for no reason, making me retype the file names. Took me 5-6 times once, for this file name: CM10-XXXX. 9 characters. Would just keep closing and resetting the characters I had already typed. I've heard the new version, 2.3, has some pretty bad bugs, but I haven't used it, so can't confirm. Developer is currently fixing said problems. I also find the slide-to-continue gimmick to be ridiculous. I will say, however, that flash-queuing is a good idea.
I won't even discuss CWM because we have CWM Touch. The layout is nonsensical. Everything seems to be in random order, no dividers to make things easier to read, no prompt on fix permissions. Other than that, it's great. It allows you to delete stock recovery, and it keeps root for you when you flash OTA files with it.
CWM Touch is what I use, and will continue to use until something better shows up.

One more question, is there a way to double check once I've done the su/nvbackup using terminal emulator, or should I just assume that if the phone rebooted after running that command that it was successful?

When you reboot with that command, you will see blue text at the top left corner of the screen, like when you are going into recovery. It says it's copying modemst1 and modemst2 to fsb and backup. Yes, the names are incorrect, but you get the idea.

[Q] New to ROMs and all that jazz. Help a guy out?

Hey all,
So as it says in the title, I'm new to custom ROMs, kernels and all of that stuff. I've had my G3 since it came out, and with the G4 around the corner, I thought it couldn't hurt to start experimenting a bit with my G3 and see what more I can get out of it.
I've been on LGs stock ROMs since I got the phone, I've been too scared of bricking it or voiding the warranty to try flashing a custom ROM. But, digging around the dev section for the G3, I'm seeing all these custom ROMs and how well they're improving peoples performance, and I figured I might as well ask how to go out switching to one.
I had an old Google Nexus S (Yes, I know VERY old) that I had running stock with a custom kernel, but I only used that to toy around with. My G3 is my phone, it's my daily driver I use it for everything from my Music to communication, social networking, gaming, pretty much everything. But lately, a few factors have been driving me closer to wanting a different experience, namely:
- I seem to only have around 1.1GB of RAM free (I'm on the 3GB/32GB D855 Variant) after booting up, and after a few hours I get down to around 600MB free. This isn't ideal, and lag is a player after I open a few apps up. I'd like to get rid of the bloatware that comes with the phone that I can't force-close in the task manager.
- Battery life (Yes I know it's a QHD screen but still, I'm seeing people doubling their SOT with custom ROMs, and I'd like to be one of them!)
- General performance (The stock ROM is only so good)
- A few niggles I have with the stock ROM, just things I find personally annoying.
Now, basically what I want to know is the following:
- What's a good ROM to start off with and try on my device? I've heard good things about BlissPop v2.2, CloudyG3 2.2, ChupaChups ROM, and a few others but they're the main ones I'm interested in. I'd prefer a ROM that comes without all the bloatware on the phone, as I don't want to root to have to do this myself if possible.
- Do I have to root to do this? I'd MUCH prefer to not have to root my phone myself (even though I'm aware there's some good tweaks for the phone that lengthen battery life etc. but one step at a time, lets just start with a custom ROM) but I'm unaware if I need to root to install a custom kernel or ROM if it's needed for the phone (The Nexus S was given to me from a friend who'd already rooted it, I just wiped it and played around with it). If there's a ROM that requires root but can do it itself on install, that would work for me. (CloudyG3 has something like this I believe)
- How easy is it to keep the ROM/ROMs up to date? Is it like updating the stock ROM? Can I do it just by downloading the new version of the ROM and flashing it to the phone without having it wipe all my data (Like you do when updating the stock rom (From like V20A - V20B) Or do some ROMs have a built-in update feature ( think ChupaChups ROM has a built-in OTA update feature)?
- Is there any chance of me bricking my device and it being unrecoverable if I do this?
- Is there a guide to how to move from the Stock ROM to a Custom ROM somewhere here on the forums, or is it specific for each ROM? Mainly for the reason above, I want to avoid making my phone unusable so I want a good, solid guide if they're available.
- When I sell my phone in the future, am I able to restore the stock ROM and Kernel? Mainly worried about the kernel here, I know I can just factory reset and flash the stock ROM but not sure how I'd go about flashing the original kernel. If I could completely backup the original kernel and everything and then save that to my computer for later on, that would work well, I've saved backups of all my .kdz's for each ROM version.
- Is there a complete guide for backing up everything that is stock on the phone (ROM, Kernel, Userdata, etc.) and then starting over from scratch (Like a step-by-step process)
- *Optional* Does anyone know if I could restore my app data from the stock ROMs built-in backup tool in settings to the custom ROM if it supports it?
So that should be pretty much it, I'm really just looking to move to something more from my phone, and there's some good options out there, I'm just concerned regarding the things above. A huge thank you to anyone that's able to offer me help, you'll be doing me a HUGE favour. I don't think I'll be able to afford the G4 when it comes out I'm looking to get everything I can out of my G3.
Thanks!

I can't take the time for all the answers, but to get you started, look for the LG one click root thread in one of these sections.
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Some guides >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-thread-lg-g3-question-t2947298 <<