[Q] S-off and recovery advice before flashing first rom - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry for being a noob, but the more I read the more questions I have.
I have a Orange UK branded desire not PVT4 if I remember correctly its PVT1
Android 2.2
Radio 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Have rooted with Unrevoked3 so have ClockworkMod version 2.5.0.7
I am not s-off as not sure if the benefits outweigh the risks (flashing with fast boot risking USB brick). Does access via fastboot make it easier to rectify problems if things go wrong?
I want to install a rom that will allow me to install more apps via one of the apps2ext/sd, data2ext etc methods (preferably one that supports ext4 as that seems to perform best) so I will probably be trying a few roms.
I was planning to start out with CyanogenMod 7.0.3 for which guides seem to suggest that installing from CWM 2.5.0.7 should work fine including installing the google apps addon. However I have read that CWM 2.5.0.7 wont be able to install the addon as it doesnt support ext4 as used in gingerbread. Also I am guessing that not supporting ext4 would mean problems for nandroid backup when apps are stored on an ext4 partition of the sd card.
So would I need to change recovery for CM7 and ease of use with most other roms, dont want to have to keep changing, if so what ext4 compatible one is recomended as stable?
I know there are newer unofficial CWM, think 3.2.0.8 is the new one, but Ive heard of them causing USB bricks. Not sure about Amon_ra's as thats no loger supported either and 4EXTRecovery looks interesting but seems thats been droped to.
All advice greatly appreciated, sorry if I've missed threads with obvious answers to these questions.

Well, it is a good idea to s-off your phone if you plan to change you partition layout in order to get more internal space for installing apps and there are some other benefits too... it is somewhat risky but in my experience the risk of something going wrong is very, very small... I s-offed my device with alpharev.nl live disk, everything went smoothly...
Most of the roms support at least one or two methods of app space expansion, you should bear in mind also that it is not obligatory for ext4 partitions to perform better... the difference between ext2 and ext4 filesystems as far as I know is journaling which is not supported on ext2 and in some other things... but you shouldn't be bothered with those, just format your sdext partitions in the way the developer of the rom you are installing specified and everything should be ok... I prefer roms with d2ext or d2sd because of really big space(up to 2 Gb) and very good performance and no limitations which exist in a2sd roms unless you moved dalvik to sd...
For recovery you don't explicitly have to stick to cwm you should experiment little and find the one that is best for your needs... I had a usb brick with cwm 3.2.0.8, though usb brick can be fixed fairly easy either via fastboot or fastboot commander or from some of those recently modded recoveries... If you plan to install a rom with d2ext then i'd recommend you install either 4ext recovery (which is a mod of cwm) or rmd recovery (which is a very good mod of amonra) because these two allow you to backup all the partitions and therefore recover them in the right way...
Sorry for lengthy reply... Hope this helped a bit, if you have more questions or I skipped something just shoot...

Thanks for the info.
I don't plan to manually change the partition layout, I'll leave that down to the rom developers. When you falsh a rom, if it flashes its own hboot, does thst mean you'll loose s-off as its not set in radio for the desire but patched in hboot to ignore the security flag?
I think I'll probably use alpharev to s-off as it looks like it will be easier to access the phone to fix things in case of a problem.
I've looked at fixing a usb brick so I'm aware what to expect if it did happen, I like to be prepared. I'm not sure how I'd create the mtd0.img for my current rom as hex editing the file or creating one via a site (cant provide links) assumes a software version number of 10 characters including dots, which mine is not. Its only 9 characters - 2.17.61.3. So the site gives an error, and in hex editing a file im not sure weather to replace the 10 characters with 02.17.61.3 or 2.17.061.3 or to blank the first or last digit so there are only 9 characters. Any ideas?
Any d2ext roms you'd recommend? Any with sense as I'll miss som of the features but its not a deal breaker?
And on the issue of ext4 to my knowledge it does generally perform the best in most cases and for the our usage journalling is best disabled.

I believe that none of custom roms install hboot on it's own, so if you install a rom that needs more space than the hboot you have installed has then you are destined for doom... just kidding, it really just won't boot... so if you for example install oxygen (which is very small) you can install it on any of the hboots, only difference will be in amount of free space that you will have afterwards...
Alpharev is the way to go for s-off... Install their custom hboots and you will have no problems... Occasionally, though it never happened to me, you'll have to install a downgrader hboot in order to change hboot to another layout, but that ain't too much of a hassle...
I don't think that there is a risk of losing s-off by installing any of custom roms, s-off gets lost after flashing any of official ruu_s which return your device to stock condition...
I'm pretty sure you won't need to make that mtd0.img because most of usb-bricks get resolved by entering the following in fastboot:
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
fastboot reboot
fastboot oem eraseconfig
if usb-brick persist then proceed to making mtd0.img, and if I remember well it doesn't really matter what digits you changed (but don't trust me with this, I resolved my brick with fastboot commands )
Most of the time I interchange between CM7 with d2ext (you have to implement d2ext script by yourself) and Wmjan's version of RcMix S (it is Sense rom) with d2ext which works perfectly (at least it does for me)... Also damo's pyramid and kingdom ports have d2ext and perform very well, but for them you need custom hboot provided with rom and they are also Sense roms... And at last x-part Miui is very nice, so experiment with those and see what fits your needs...
And at the end, I agree with you that ext4 performs best, especially without journaling, but in some very, very rare cases ext2 can be better...
Hope this was helpful

I've sorted s-off and am about to try out CM7 I'll have to look into implementing the d2ext script, haven't come across that so any pointers/links would be appreciated. I'll have a look at the roms you've mentioned, have seen RcMix S mentioned as the base for another rom.
I backed up my /misc through adb shell
Code:
dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd0 of=/sdcard/misc.img bs=4096
mostly out of curiosity to see how it compared to the ones you can download and hex. It is spaced out slightly differently at the start
thanks again

I followed instructions in this thread for CM7 d2ext implementation - Data2ext CyanogenMOD - UPDATE 26/01/11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902395
check it out, shouldn't be difficult to set up...

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[Q] A2SD+ on rooted stock sense froyo?

Hi all,
is it poosible to get a2sd+ on stock htc sense froyo?. I`m desperately running out of space, but i want to retain the stock froyo because of app updates, those on customs had issue not been able to update for example map, yt, etc. I may be wrong. In that case is there a rom with stock sense and latest froyo update?
Any info about rooting the handset with latest froyo update (stock) would also be helpful.
Thanks.
Hi There
I found this link the other day about forcing apps to the SD card without rooting on Froyo
http://myhtcdesire.com/category/tipstweaks
I have tried it a few times but just can't get it to work for me, perhaps I am missing something
Hope thios helps
JaykaySLO said:
Hi all,
is it poosible to get a2sd+ on stock htc sense froyo?. I`m desperately running out of space, but i want to retain the stock froyo because of app updates, those on customs had issue not been able to update for example map, yt, etc. I may be wrong. In that case is there a rom with stock sense and latest froyo update?
Any info about rooting the handset with latest froyo update (stock) would also be helpful.
Thanks.
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DISCLAIMER: be very, very careful especially if you don't have S-OFF yet and plan to use this method. Mind your exact Desire variant and read all the info on listed stuff before attempting
I use a rooted stock rom with Darktremors Apps2SD method. You just have to install the scripts and modify the init.rc script as described in this thread
You will need to prepare an update.zip with the boot.img or have S-OFF hboot (like AlphaRev) to flash the boot partition on which the init.rc script resides.
It might be also possible to use flash_image, but I'm not sure it will be possible without S-OFF.
I used AmonRA 1.7.0.1 Recovery R5 to repartition the SD, as it seemed to me that using Clockwork which was embedded in Unrevoked 3.21, caused my last USB brick.
This will enable you to move not only the apps but also the dalvik cache to the SD's ext partition. The data from /data/data still remains in the internal storage, but moving the apps and dalvik cache is a huge space saver.
IIRC moving some apps data from the /data/data (I think it was systems apps mostly but honestly I don't recall) to the ext partition may result in errors.
Right now the situation looks like this on my phone:
Code:
# df -h /data
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock5 147.6M 102.8M 44.9M 70% /data
# du -sh /system/sd/*
200.3M /system/sd/app
8.0M /system/sd/app-private
54.9M /system/sd/dalvik-cache
# ls -1 /system/sd/app /system/sd/app-private | wc -l
129
Additional bonus:
Because the ext partition is not being unmounted when connecting the phone as external storage to a computer, you don't end up with screwed up app links, and disappearing widgets when you do.
good luck
thanks for the info.
2 things: what is S-OFF and is there a windows based procedure as I dont have a *.nix system
JaykaySLO said:
thanks for the info.
2 things: what is S-OFF and is there a windows based procedure as I dont have a *.nix system
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This particular *.nix system in my example is the Android OS as seen from the adb shell.
Please search the forum for what S-OFF is, there are tons of tutorials and howtos on this subject, it's basicly an unlocked variant of the HBOOT bootloader. The standard HBOOT won't allow you to flash partitions using fastboot mode like in earlier HTC models, Dream for example.
My advice is not to touch the HBOOT if you're not familiar with it as screwing something up when trying to change it is the quickest way to a bricked phone.
best of luck
"To begin, you'll need a Linux or a Mac system and basic knowledge on how to navigate through your Linux or Mac via a terminal program. The tools presented in this guide will only work with those systems."
As u said, its best I dont mess with hboot.
First things first - I think it should be possible to flash boot.img from an update.zip (just a regular update from the recovery mode). So no S-OFF modification needed this way.
Or just ask around the forum. It could be possible to flash the boot partition on the device using flash_image. Since my phone is already s-off I can't verify that.
JaykaySLO said:
"To begin, you'll need a Linux or a Mac system
and basic knowledge on how to navigate through your Linux or Mac via a terminal program. The tools presented in this guide will only work with those systems."
As u said, its best I dont mess with hboot.
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Ah, that My bad, I thought you meant the code in my post.
Well you need a *.nix-ish environment for that particular solution, but that doesn't necessarily has to be an actual Linux / MacOS box.
There are a couple of ways to work around not having a Linux / MacOSX box:
First: If you have at least some knowledge of operating a unix shell, you can just download a live boot linux distro in the form of ISO image. Download and install VirtualBox, run the iso from there.
Second choice would be Cygwin, which is basically your *.nix environment for Windows.
Third is to install just a Windows perl interpreter needed for some of the scripts, and download a windows version of the mkbootimg binary, and just do the whole procedure manually. You pretty much just have to be able to run:
1. perl
2. cpio
3. mkbootimg
You can google all the needed exe's, and then you google "how to unpack boot.img" and take your pick - OR just take a peak inside the scripts from the semi-automatic solution (the thread you just quoted). The scripts are simplicity itself, pretty much don't differ much from a simple windows / dos batch file.
Fourth is to ask someone you trust to prepare the image for you
Either way, you have to modify the init.rc to be able to run the a2sd scipt on android boot.
OFC you can just start the process manually from a Terminal Emulator directly on the phone, and repeat it every time after you power on the phone, but that's hardly a comfortable way to go
Tell you what. If you feel really courageous I can fashion up a web form for you (and anyone else interested) which could allow you to submit a boot.img and have it modifed automatically, allow you to download a modified version. But: no warranties and also I might end up being an evil sneaky, sneaky bastard Your call
Thanks for the comprehensive info, but I`m not willing to experiment too much for the sake of not bricking the phone. I thought there might be a simpler solution....
+1 from me, getting headache from running out of space, I read online saying EXT3 was the method to go, but how to do it with rooted stock rom? (I head the only way to root Desire 2.2 is unrevoked) , please help
hongkongtom said:
+1 from me, getting headache from running out of space, I read online saying EXT3 was the method to go, but how to do it with rooted stock rom? (I head the only way to root Desire 2.2 is unrevoked) , please help
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Like I wrote in the earlier posts. Partition with AmonRA recovery, install Darktremors APPS2SD, modify the init.rc script located on the boot partition, flash the modified boot - just browse the earlier posts. There are links to threads containing all the info you need.

[Q] Should I root for app2sd?

I just got my new Desire a few days before. It works like a charm. The only 2 things I feel unsatisfied are: battery life and ROM capacity.
There is not much I can do on the battery side. I can put it aside and get used to that. But the ROM is really painful for me -- When I get the device, it had around 150MB free memory. But it is only 22MB left now!
I noticed that the Android 2.2 supported to install application on SD card. I used adb shell to setup the default installation to SD, and moved most of the programs to the SD card. However, it seems that internal memory was not free up as much as I was expected. Indeed, I did not have many software installed. And I am very suspicious if the cache of software (like mail, google maps, etc.) might always stay on internal memory.
I think one solution to solve the problem is to root my device and partition the SD card to increase the program storage. But I am worrying if it might bring security risk from malwares, or make the phone run slower and have bigger power consumption when use SD card more frequently.
Do you root your device for the app2sd? What's the pros and cons? I want to take your opinion before make the decision. Any suggestion will be very appreciated!
w162 said:
I just got my new Desire a few days before. It works like a charm. The only 2 things I feel unsatisfied are: battery life and ROM capacity.
There is not much I can do on the battery side. I can put it aside and get used to that. But the ROM is really painful for me -- When I get the device, it had around 150MB free memory. But it is only 22MB left now!
I noticed that the Android 2.2 supported to install application on SD card. I used adb shell to setup the default installation to SD, and moved most of the programs to the SD card. However, it seems that internal memory was not free up as much as I was expected. Indeed, I did not have many software installed. And I am very suspicious if the cache of software (like mail, google maps, etc.) might always stay on internal memory.
I think one solution to solve the problem is to root my device and partition the SD card to increase the program storage. But I am worrying if it might bring security risk from malwares, or make the phone run slower and have bigger power consumption when use SD card more frequently.
Do you root your device for the app2sd? What's the pros and cons? I want to take your opinion before make the decision. Any suggestion will be very appreciated!
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Rooting , followed by alpha rev s-off n1 partitioning, is by far the best thing, so much fun.
I use defrost based on cyanogen mod, great support, and ota feature, with kernels galore, and the all important a2sd built in. As long as you have an ext partition on your sd card, all apps go straight into the ext partition with out you having to do anything.
Also remember is not jail breaking
Desire is the source of all suffering.
nitrox1 said:
Rooting , followed by alpha rev s-off n1 partitioning, is by far the best thing, so much fun.
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What does alpha rev s-off allow you to do?
It basically provides full root access for your desire as opposed to soft root, where you could only r/w to the to the /system partition while in recovery mode.
What is S-OFF ? (Quotes from original AlphaRev website)
HTC implemented security on their new generation phones. This flag, called @secuflag, controls whether your phone has it's NAND or flash unlocked. Most noticibly S-ON (security on) will read-lock your /system and /recovery partition, to name a few. Also, controls whether zip files being flashed recovery or fastboot, are signed by HTC The now notorious S-OFF (security off) disable this NAND security. Since we are unable to access the Radio itself (where secuflag is stored), we turn attention to HBOOT.
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MasDroid said:
It basically provides full root access for your desire as opposed to soft root, where you could only r/w to the to the /system partition while in recovery mode.
What is S-OFF ? (Quotes from original AlphaRev website)
HTC implemented security on their new generation phones. This flag, called @secuflag, controls whether your phone has it's NAND or flash unlocked. Most noticibly S-ON (security on) will read-lock your /system and /recovery partition, to name a few. Also, controls whether zip files being flashed recovery or fastboot, are signed by HTC The now notorious S-OFF (security off) disable this NAND security. Since we are unable to access the Radio itself (where secuflag is stored), we turn attention to HBOOT.
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What does it allow you to do that you can't do without it?
stats101 said:
What does it allow you to do that you can't do without it?
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It unlocks NAND so that you can write into /system partition. You can also flash radio, custom kernel, custom recovery, any unsigned ROM directly via fastboot without ClockWorks Rom Manager.
When you can write to /system, MetaMorph, AdFree and other apps that require access to this partition will just work. You don't need to reboot into recovery in order to delete/change/add files. Superuser will be able to update su binary automatically, Busybox Installer from Market will have no problems installing the most recent version directly into /system/bin or /system/xbin, etc.
While most users probably don't need it, it's very useful for developers. You can change system configs on the fly, add and load custom kernel modules without reboot and so on.
Basically, it will make your phone fully unlocked, just like the Nexus One developer phone.
nitrox1 said:
Desire is the source of all suffering.
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Can't agree with that any more now

[Q] Moving EVERYTHING to SDcard or just "a part" ??

Hey Guys! Im new on this forum (even though i have made this account some time ago, i never used it )
So.. i just Rooted my HTC Desire, which i've been so afraid of. But now i had to to it regarding the lack of SD-card installing.. BUT! now i installed this neat app called something like "app2sd" which unlocks the installing to SD-card, but it just unlocks the feature like the FroYo update unlocked, just on some other apps?
So my question is.. CAN i move the WHOLE app to my SD-Card, and can i do it without flashing a custom rom or whatever? (which i am afraid of doing) because i want some of those GAMELOFT apps and the main app does still fill up some space unfortunately..
I hope you get what i'm saying (im not the best at english, but im trying )
If you didnt understand me, and want to help me, just tell me and ill try slicing it in pieces
Thanks in advance!
- Mathias
Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it is possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
edit: and btw. don't excuse your english. It's not bad compared to many other people on this board
mortenmhp said:
Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it should be possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
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Thanks for the fast answer!
Well its not for breaking my phone im afraid of using custom ROM, my problem is that theres always some issues, and i've heard something about the RADIO or some stuff??
But if theres a custom ROM based on the FroYo which allows me to move EVERYTHING from my internal to external, which would you recommend, and wheres a good spot to find alot of those roms?
By the way, i also want them in danish language!
Well as for stability, those completely based on the stock roms(leedroid) are just as stable as the htc-ones. And if you are already on froyo, updating the radio shouldn't be necessary. And the only roms without danish language on here is the one labeled miui(some chinese custom rom) btw. im danish myself.
But the way you want to completely move /data to /sd-ext is called data2ext, and i personally wouldn't recommend it, as everything gets kind of laggy in my experience. This is due to the sd-card being much slower in read/write rates than the nand chip, so keep as much as possible internal without filling it up. I would recommend a2sd+ instead, which should give you plenty of space for apps as well
A great rom build on std. htc with a2sd+ is leedroid as already mentioned or auraxtsense, if you want a different theme.
Yea I see but let's keep it English as some people might find it useful :b
But now I ran into another problem .. which is, that I know used that app2sd unlocker and now I can't put widgets on my homescreen from the apps? Like handcent sms if you know it?
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Yes that is because the froyo a2sd solution stores the apps on the fat32 partition which is not initialized before late in the bootprocess meaning the apps is not accessible when widgets are loaded. So using froyo a2sd you should keep apps with widgets on internal.
But with a2sd+ on leedroid or a similar Rom this won't be a problem as the ext partition is initialized early in the boot process. So go with one of the custom roms. That would be my recommendation
Alright then.. but is my data from my apps stored on my sdcard? Like I have "3gwatchdog", and it has stored all of my data transfers. Is that saved when I back up my sdcard and just install the program on my custom Rom?
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No, data from apps is still stored on the internal memory
The ONLY way to get it all onto the SD card is to use a custom ROM which includes Data2SD - but it's still a bit buggy and can lead to a quicker death of your SD card
So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
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mathiasb2 said:
So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
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Titanium backup.
TheGhost1233 said:
Titanium backup.
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Thanks for telling me about that app! But my problem as I see it now, is that when I wanna use Titanium backup, I do need "busybox" and busybox fails when I try to install it? On the market it also says that HTC Desire is not supported?
- what am I supposed to do then?
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[Q] Can I root my desire as it is ?

Hi all. Been reading/watching videos but a little confused about some stuff. Goldcard ? Do i need to make one before rooting ? Not sure what it is really ?
I have a desire from vodafone and can't be sure if it's locked/branded or not ? It's on a monthly 24 months contract.
The box the phone came in hasn't got any vodafone logo on it. When i turn the phone on I only get HTC logo, no voda logo. I can only see the word vodafone when I see the unlocking bar and the notification bar.
Software info.
2.2
Baseband version 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Kernel 2.6.32.15-g2633d94
Build number 2.33.161.2 CL284385 realease-keys
Software number 2.33.161.2
Browser version Webkit 3.1
Can anyone tell if my phone is branded or not and what it means ? Do I need to make a gold card before rooting ? I already found the exact RUU tha matches my phone (one with vodafone in it) in case I need to return to stock before root.
A slight different subject, can I/should I partition my sdcard immediately after rooting ? I'm not sure how to do this, I think using rom manager seems the easy option but I saw a video (how to partition sdcard using rom manager) the guy pressed on partition sd card, then the following options 128 MG - 256 MB - 512 MB AFTER choosing one of these options next screen is SWAP SIZE 0MG - 32MG - 64 MG - 128 MG - 256 MG ( the guy in the video recommends 32MG or 64 MG)
Then he stops as he doesn't want to format his sdcard.
What I'm confused is that in other root guides there's always mention of ext3 - ext 4 (didn't see these option in the video)
For example, instructions from a guide: Go into rom manager, select 512MG for both cache and ext 3 (what ?? didn't see that in the video !) This will format your sdcard...blabla...
So, what's the easiest way to format sdcard. The main reason I want to root is to get more internal memory. I have a sandink (class 2) 16GB card. Also, will partition the sdcard have a risk of killing the sdcard. I didn't do anything to this card, just put in the phone and tranferred old files from old card from computer into new card.
Thanks so much for any advice.
As a rule most vodafone phones come branded, however if its from phones for you or carphone warehouse it is possible its unlocked and unbranded look for apps in the app drawer that mention vodafone, if you find one or two then its branded
Regards
Vengeance
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That is branded, x.xx.161.x is the code for Vodafone UK
You can still debrand it/root it, just download this and keep it safe for warranty issues should they arise:
http://www.multiupload.com/K0FR1OK301
If you're going to debrand it you'll need a gold card and then use the 2.29.405.5 RUU. If you're going to root it a gold card isn't needed.
As for A2SD+, I have 1.5GB as my EXT3, 0MB as the SWAP and the rest FAT32 (using a 16GB Class 2 SD card)
@ Vengence1990 - I bought the phone from Vodafone store and there are no apps that seem to be from vodafone.
@EddyOs - I don't really mind branded or not but not sure If I need to debrand first in order to be able to use Voda RUU in case I need to return phone to stock condition. If i just root and flash room and stuff and something goes wrong will I be able to just use RUU (click on it) and my phone will be back to stock condition if I don't debrand it.
you said use have 1.5 gb as ext 3 and 0 as swapp and rest fat32
does it mean that the first option rom manager gives you 128mg, 256mg, etc...is in FACT the ext 3 ? Also I've noticed rom manager only gives the option up to 512 mg BUT the guy shows a way to increase this by going to rec.mode and choosing advanced options for partion sdcard.
Thanks guys.
Don't use ROM Manager as it's wank, you should be able to manually partition your SD card using the recovery after rooting but if not you can use GPartEd (Google it)
And yes, the RUU can be used to return your phone to stock if you ever need it. You don't need to debrand to root
HELP ! I just came across a guy asking for advice and he says... using unrevoked doesn't work on my desire because I have the latest official build from froyo...???
Is this true ???? He's on orange. I haven't heard of this, thought unrevoked worked with any desire (it says so on the site) I haven't rooted yet, if this is true (about unrevoked) how can I find out if I have this new build of froyo as I bought my phone last mid december. I'm worried about using unrevoked now. Would somebody clarify this, please, Thanks...
Just found another post and I think I'm on to something (bad news I think) It's about the nadchip pvt4, think if it's 40000 unrevoked won't work, The newer pvt4 chips ship with the later code of 2.29 or voda 2.33 (mine is voda 2.33.161.2 cl284385)
Am i correct in thinking I had a near escape (as been meaning to use unrevoked for the past few day but was a little uncertain )
So, it seems I can't root using unrevoked after all...
@EddieOs - Hi, funnily enough i saw that you were involved in a discussion about this issue in android forum. So guess you'd be able to tell me for sure what's what. Thanks....
unrEVOked works on all Desires, but some people have issues using the latest version. Find the link on androidforums for 3.21 as this should work. I've rooted my phone on the latest WWE build (2.29.405.5) and I had no issues whatsoever
Thanks for reply, when you mention 3.21 you mean the unrevoked version 3.21 right ? but don't i need to find out if my phone is pvt4 20000 or 40000 version ? I checked and my phone shows pvt4 but I can't see if it's 20000 or 40000. There was a guide on how to find out by downloading something but instructions weren't very clear so didn't understand it. Do you have any suggestions how I can find out this for sure before using unrevoked (latest version) or 3.21
also in the guide it says...2) If you forced all apps to SD card, this is impairing the installation of the superuser app. Go back through the guide and substitute "pm setInstallLocation 2" foir "pm setInstallLocation 0" and try it again
I don't understand this, I keep all apps that can be kept in the sdcard kept there.
Go back through the guide (what guide ?) and substitute "pm setinstallLocation 2...blabla
Don't know how to do this...
Thanks for any info
As you're lazy, try this:
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.21/reflash_package.exe
Thanks, I had already downloaded this version of unrevoked to my computer when you posted link. What I need to find out is if my nandchip pvt4 is 20000 or 40000. If it's 20000 it would be ok to unrevoke but I suspect it's 40000
So I will have to learn about amonRa recovey. Don;t quite understand it...
This is getting so frustrating, maybe I'll take phone to a shop and ask for it to be rooted.
Where do you live?
As for AmonRA, download this:
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.0.img
Start unrEVOked and before connecting your phone select File>Custom Recovery and point it to that file above on your PC. Then connect the phone and it will flash AmonRA instead of CWM
Why don't you just try unRevoked, and if it doesn't work, no big issue? Aslong s your not messing around with it, the only time people have had problems is on the re-boot, and thats after the phone has completely booted? As for the PVT thing, I have the 4000 and I haven't had any problems rooting aslong as I was running 2.1 software, so no idea :/ it's all very confusing, but I would go for it
I live in Bournemouth. Will study for a bit more before doing anything...
Yeah... need to find out if my phone has erase size value 20000 or 40000 I know I can do this by using sdk but I find it a little complicated.
I need step by step instructions (any takers ??) or other way or finding out that isn't too difficult.
Thanks for any help...
Well... managed to find out my phone erase size value is 20000 so I should have no problems using unrevoked 3.21
Now, the doubt about goldcard......

[Q] Maximize internal storage for Lee-droid 3.0.8.2

HI All,
Hope you can take a look over my setup and help me maximize the space on this phone.
I have rooted, S-off'ed and Followed several guides trying 3 Roms. I like Leedroid best and want to use it going forward. However I keep running out of space after a couple of months and find myself wiping the phone down to start again. despite using the 3.0.8.2 a2sd version of the rom.
I've read posts about this issue suggesting A2SD reintall or terminal emulator fix's but they refer to CM7 and other Roms so I am fearful of trying them out without consulting the experts.
Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong or suggest a new approach I would be willing to wipe everything and start again I.e re-install apps from the market because TB keeps my contact sms etc safe.
I dont know what a2sd leedroid comes packaged with. the "a2sd reinstall" command from terminal is something specific to Dark Tremor a2sd. This can be installed on any rom, so it could be that. This wont break anything if you have any other a2sd solution as these commands wont be programmed into the script.
If it has got Dark tremor, moving dalvik-cache onto sd ext would save space too. the command for that would be "a2sd cachesd"
Hi RootSU, Thanks for your reply. I've downloaded the terminal emulator and tried those commands, doesn't seem to work.
I suppose what I'm trying to Ask is: To run Leedroid what is the optimum configuration to fit the most apps without getting running low message coming up.
Here is the quick sys info which i got too.
LeeDroid ROM does not have the DarkTremor's script - so the a2sd commands won't work. AFAIK, it uses MCRScripts.
There should be an application like that in the ROM with preinstalled scripts.
The last time is used there was and after running the script which moved the dalvik to the SD the problem got solved.
This is the link for the patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15732939&postcount=384ton
Yep, just found that add o in the thread:
http://leedroid.ftp.rshost.eu/Bravo_Addons/Move-Dalvik-to-sdext.zip
if you havent done this, it will save a lot of space.
Ok thanks,
I saved that file to SDcard rebooted to recovery and Applied Zip file, It seemed to go well took a while but no errors. Here is a new pic of system info not really much change is there ?
Can you suggest any other checks ?
Not really. may be you already did this? How many apps have you got?
Are you s-off? Maybe try data++ version?
i used to use this rom, now on HD port
can't remember, but i think the A2SD rom already moves the dalvik cache to ext, so flashing that zip won't save anything. you must have a lot of data on internal
to maximise internal storage use the data++ ROM
there is a very good FAQ on how to install it, and more importantly, explains the difference.
since you are already S-OFF, it involves changing hboot to maximise internal memory. then you can move dalvik to ext to have even more...
thanks guys makes sense, Eddie giving this FAQ a go.

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