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Built this theme upon request by a friend who recently bought a G1 from me. Being a huge fan myself I had a lot of fun w/ this one =) Features JrBourque's red VK. If anyone wants a port, this can be done relatively easy so feel free to throw that out there if interested.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mimfg25tzmj/Robotech_Hv1.5r3_A2SD.zip
Aight. Decided to make the switch this evening so I ported my latest theme over. Ended up ranting bout a bunch of stuff that came to my mind after the icons of this theme were criticized. Here is the link and screen shots to spare anyone not interested bout the rant lol. To give credit where credit is due, I compiled JrBourque's Red VK into this build. Anyone who need's a custom VK should hit him and Diaztradeinc up asap. Quality stuff fo sho.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmyyzgnyxa2/Robotech_JFv1.5.zip
Thus far, posting this las night (in Hv1.5 form) I've only gotten one post of criticism regarding the icons... but I don't really care. I'm open to constructive criticism within my means and MO, but I'm not here to please absolutely everyone. I enjoy making these things, have a zillion different ideas for themes that I'd like to see on my own phone and will continue to post them up as I make them, for whomever might be interested in them (no point in keeping them to myself).
This criticism over my icons put a lot on my mind today so I suppose I'll take the opportunity to put it out there. There seem to be 2 destinctive types of themes to me - Graphic driven themes and Subject driven themes. By graphic driven theme I mean those like Aero and Gloss that are based on no subject but built from scratch, open completely to unique artistic creation to no end. By subject driven themes, well, that's self explanatory (IE Mario, X-men, Punisher, Spider-Man, Gambit, Megaman, Robotech etc. etc. etc.).
Don't expect any of my themes to be graphic driven themes. Subject matter inspires me to build these themes, not graphic design, and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. I really only do this for the enjoyment of seeing my work and particular subjects come to fruition and don't have much interest in pushing my graphic art skills beyond where they currently are. I'd consider my graphic art skills intermediate at best. My skills are not nearly up to par w/ other designers on here. I'm far more inspired to see themes based on my favorite comic books and anime (among other potential mediums) come to fruition than I am to take the time to create unique and original designs. I'm in constant awe of what other members create and share w/ the community. I'm not in this for competition or comparison. I'll let peeps do their thang while I do mine. Jus in this for my own personal enjoyment and there's no point in keeping the fruits of my labors to myself if anyone else is ever interested in running it themselves.
To speak more directly regarding my feelings about icons representing the individual apps instead of the subject matter... in building a subject driven theme, I feel if the icons don't represent the subject in particular, they aren't nearly as interesting. I guess I think of it in the terms of what a Desktop theme would look like (because, Android really is a miniaturized desktop afterall). Even if I extracted a calculator (for example) from the source of the subject (like a calculator that appears in an episode of Robotech in this case), it wouldn't be recognizable as representation of that subject unless it were a character holding a friggin calculator or something. And if an icon like that was made you really wouldn't see the calculator once the image was scaled to the small size that the system icons are.
My work being criticized as though it should be similar to other themes in this regard bothered me enough that I guess I felt compelled to rant and explain my point of view, (and if you're readin this, naw man, I'm still not offended, jus put a lot on my mind). Anyways. This thing is long enough I suppose lol
OK... but don't you think you could make the icons at least sort of related to the apps?
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OK... but don't you think you could make the icons at least sort of related to the apps?
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If I wasn't at such a loss for source material I would have. I'm not kidding. About 80 or 90 google image search pages later I was still at square 2 where in previous endeavors id be at square 6.
Besides, I DO honestly strive for that (my settings icon in my Megaman theme being a good example of that, it was the start menu of MM2), however, I compare my work to that of a couple other cats on here and their icons aren't too particular to the individual apps either.
I agree. It would be REALLY sweet to be able to be that specific but the truth of the matter is I'm decent w/ Gimp (photoshop clone, much better), but I'm no ace by any means. There aren't enough pictures out there to do such a thing in the way id prefer. Calendar/calculator for example. Don't know if either ever appeared in a robotexh episode but if they did, even though it was taken from robotech it wouldn't feel in accordance w/ the theme cuz it wouldn't be familiar looking at all nor would it be destinctively related to the subject matter.
Sorry for the novel lol. You touched a softspot for me, not in a way that I'm offended at all, more like I WISH I COULD make the icons in stronger accordance w/ the individual apps but it's just not possible.
Id actually be curious to see someone else's attempt at such. Do you know of a charicter/show/whatever based theme that's been able to pull this off well? If so you should point me in that direction so I can scope it out
Man. Ain't no other Robotech fans up on here? Really? =) guess I stand alone. Or maybe no one is running H's 1.5 anymore now that he's released 6.0 =) I'm actually gonna update my phone to JFs 1.5 update so I think ill be porting it anyways and when I do ill post the port as well I guess.
Would be nice if you could make a proper Samurai Champloo, after seeing this I'm sure it will be great
Haha I just posted on the other one. Do you have to wipe for this? I haven't flashed a theme in a good while, also like i posted there is there any way that you can make a Samurai Champloo? After seeing this i would jump on your work of SC
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Haha I just posted on the other one. Do you have to wipe for this? I haven't flashed a theme in a good while, also like i posted there is there any way that you can make a Samurai Champloo? After seeing this i would jump on your work of SC
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Ha ha ha. FUNNY thing you mention that. I just decided this evening to start workin on a Cowboy Bebop theme. The robotech theme was on my list and when my friend bought a G1 from me and said "hey you should make a robotech theme" I took that as a sign. Now a dif friend is buyin a G1 from me on Sat and said "hey you should build a cowboy bebop theme" (which was also on my list =)) followed just a few hours later by "man a Samurai Champloo theme would be awesome too" lol. So I'm thinking at this point w/ 2 people already requesting both, both being on my list, that I can't make one w/ out doing the other ha ha. Once my Cowboy Bebop theme is done and released I'll def have to dive into Samurai Champloo as well ha ha.
Oh and, no wipe necessary. What build are you running? If you're runnin Haykuro's 1.5 jus flash it and it should update fine (in which case you'd want to grab the Hv1.5 theme on the other thread). Same w/ JF's too. =)
Ah perfect! Damn i wish i would have known this earlier to beat your friend and have you make the Samurai Champloo first but a man can wait I'm running JF1.51 ADP. So maybe you can work on it... whenever you're done a nice thank you will be heading your way
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Ah perfect! Damn i wish i would have known this earlier to beat your friend and have you make the Samurai Champloo first but a man can wait I'm running JF1.51 ADP. So maybe you can work on it... whenever you're done a nice thank you will be heading your way
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Yeah. there are some major complications regarding 1.51 US that I wasn't really wanting to get into. I'll prolly look into it further but ultimately the only real dif between 1.5 and 1.51 was MyFaves and Amazon for me so I decided against updateing. And from what I understand, flashing a theme built on 1.5 onto 1.51 US doesn't really work right =(. If someone figures out an easy way to extract the framework-res.apk I might jump on board. Otherwise I might actually look into 1.51 UK (which is also compatible w/ the JF1.5 themes that I'm constructing I do believe). I'm pretty sure that the only thing dif about US and UK is that the US f/w has My Faves, which isn't really a big deal since you can adjust your faves (if you even have any) using t mo's website.
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Ha ha ha. FUNNY thing you mention that. I just decided this evening to start workin on a Cowboy Bebop theme.
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heh, CbBb, my all-time favorite anime/show/whatever. I was thinking of one a while back, thought of making it real subtle, in-so-that only a fan would know it was anime/Cowboy Bebop. Heavy use of the opening credit style, pictures of the swordfish, profile silhouettes, etc etc etc.
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Yeah. there are some major complications regarding 1.51 US that I wasn't really wanting to get into. I'll prolly look into it further but ultimately the only real dif between 1.5 and 1.51 was MyFaves and Amazon for me so I decided against updateing. And from what I understand, flashing a theme built on 1.5 onto 1.51 US doesn't really work right =(. If someone figures out an easy way to extract the framework-res.apk I might jump on board. Otherwise I might actually look into 1.51 UK (which is also compatible w/ the JF1.5 themes that I'm constructing I do believe). I'm pretty sure that the only thing dif about US and UK is that the US f/w has My Faves, which isn't really a big deal since you can adjust your faves (if you even have any) using t mo's website.
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The 1.51 Adp doesn't actually have myfaves or amazon apk. so if it's like the uk one it will be cool
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heh, CbBb, my all-time favorite anime/show/whatever. I was thinking of one a while back, thought of making it real subtle, in-so-that only a fan would know it was anime/Cowboy Bebop. Heavy use of the opening credit style, pictures of the swordfish, profile silhouettes, etc etc etc.
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Yeah it took me, literally HOURS to find a good element to use as the menu background, I ended up using a contour from the opening credits that actually worked pretty well =)
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The 1.51 Adp doesn't actually have myfaves or amazon apk. so if it's like the uk one it will be cool
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yeah man. I actually think you'll be in good shape then. Pretty sure the US build is the only one w/ that issue. If you flashed this robotech theme (or the Megaman one I ported for JF 1.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515742 ) that'll tell ya whether this CbBb theme and the SC theme to follow will work or not =) using the same template to build these.
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Yeah it took me, literally HOURS to find a good element to use as the menu background, I ended up using a contour from the opening credits that actually worked pretty well =)
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Blue suits it well
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Blue suits it well
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ha ha. Yeah I can't seem to stay away from Blue. It's my favorite color. =)
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ha ha. Yeah I can't seem to stay away from Blue. It's my favorite color. =)
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Samurai champloo better not have blue! *shakes fist* haha I'll be checking out the theme right now I'm scared though
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Samurai champloo better not have blue! *shakes fist* haha I'll be checking out the theme right now I'm scared though
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Naw I was actually thinkin of goin Green for the Samurai Champloo one. there are some graphics I remember seeing around the net I'm already thinking of incorporating into the theme lol. I can't help myself. Just can't stop. Haven't been able to get any more than 5 hours of sleep a night and have been completely exhausted but still can't seem to pull myself away from my computer lol.
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Naw I was actually thinkin of goin Green for the Samurai Champloo one. there are some graphics I remember seeing around the net I'm already thinking of incorporating into the theme lol. I can't help myself. Just can't stop. Haven't been able to get any more than 5 hours of sleep a night and have been completely exhausted but still can't seem to pull myself away from my computer lol.
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If i knew how to create a theme i would help you out, but I'm dumb and useless so expect a lot this *shakes fist* If you do something wrong, and i feel your pain about sleeping 5 hrs a night. I'm about to go on for four :/ and then wake up to school :/
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If i knew how to create a theme i would help you out, but I'm dumb and useless so expect a lot this *shakes fist* If you do something wrong, and i feel your pain about sleeping 5 hrs a night. I'm about to go on for four :/ and then wake up to school :/
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Ha ha ha. Hopefully the theme I build will be satisfactory w/ out any fist shaking necessary lol
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Naw I was actually thinkin of goin Green for the Samurai Champloo one. there are some graphics I remember seeing around the net I'm already thinking of incorporating into the theme lol.
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You think so? I imagined something warm, like orange...
I know there is already an entire thread dedicated to this but I felt like creating one for my own purposes. Lock, delete, flame, piss, moan if you want to. This is just a simple request for a request.
I need an idea for a theme but I need it to be a bit more specific than those I see floating around in the theme request thread. A lot of them request things by name like "starcraft" or "Bad Religion" and I have no idea what those are. So, I'm just asking for someone to make a request, specify colors if they want, link me to an image or two so I can get an idea of what you want and add any other details you feel will help flesh out your vision. I'm not the best themer here but I love to do graphic design and I see theming as a way to improve and polish my skills. And its fun. But please no sports teams or halo. Those are just waaay to overdone. Maybe not here on Android but elsewhere for sure. Thanks.
aqua alien by prash looks like a homosexual pokemon theme - take that design and make it better with like some robotic tech theme. whites and blues are always great combo. take smorg stuff for glossy sleek looks. thanks.
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aqua alien by prash looks like a homosexual pokemon theme - take that design and make it better with like some robotic tech theme. whites and blues are always great combo. take smorg stuff for glossy sleek looks. thanks.
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LOL thanks for the laugh. I'll have to quote you on that.
As far as the OP, Themes are a great way to Polish your skills, goodluck! Hope you find what you're looking for.
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LOL thanks for the laugh. I'll have to quote you on that.
As far as the OP, Themes are a great way to Polish your skills, goodluck! Hope you find what you're looking for.
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just for that, im gonna apologize to you. your work is excellent and you're a good sport. the colors you used are real sleek, but the whole alien pokemon look didn't flow well
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Ubuntu 9.04.
carbon fiber
first time posting, all u guys r sick, i think a carbon fiber theme would b slick with a little shine to it
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first time posting, all u guys r sick, i think a carbon fiber theme would b slick with a little shine to it
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that would be nice, but with a little twist to fancy looking style
http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Desktop_Project
Base a theme around these icons.
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http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Desktop_Project
Base a theme around these icons.
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Wow. There's enough icons in the Tango icon theme to skin app icons, buttons, and even the emoticons. I may just use these to make a Ubuntu theme .
Thank you .
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Wow. There's enough icons in the Tango icon theme to skin app icons, buttons, and even the emoticons. I may just use these to make a Ubuntu theme .
Thank you .
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If you really do this - please tell me. Would love to see it. If not, let me know...I would be more than happy to make it.
My friend has a pretty damn slick Left 4 Dead theme for his Palm Pre that would be cool to see ported over.
http://www.prethemer.com/Left_4_Dead-theme81.html
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If you really do this - please tell me. Would love to see it. If not, let me know...I would be more than happy to make it.
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Yeah I'm gonna do it, but not with the official Tango icons, instead I'm gonna use the Unabashed Tango Theme. It's not the official Tango theme but it's close enough. It even has 48x48 icons.
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As far as the OP, Themes are a great way to Polish your skills, goodluck! Hope you find what you're looking for.
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Thanks Prash.
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Ubuntu 9.04.
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I google'd this (via images) and checked out some images and liked what I saw but reading down I see someone already beat me to beginning work on an Ubuntu theme. I may just work on one anyway simply because I really liked the images I saw.
Also, I like the Left 4 Dead one for the Pre. I'll see how much I can dig out of it and make it a straight port for you, doing as little myself as possible to it to keep it how you saw it on your friends Pre. Thanks for the responces. I really appreciate that.
By the way, I see a lot of pictures of what I think is a Moose mixed in with the Ubuntu images. Is this animal related and should I make wallpapers with it?
super nintendo theme
There is a WindowBlinds skin I have that I thought would be cool, it's called GT3
http://www.wincustomize.com/zoom.aspx?skinid=4617&libid=1
i wanted to make one i based of an anime named hellsing. it has lost of blood and vampires and red and black i started to make one but i do not have the graphic design skills to do it. if you would like to do this ill send some images that was planing on useing
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i wanted to make one i based of an anime named hellsing. it has lost of blood and vampires and red and black i started to make one but i do not have the graphic design skills to do it. if you would like to do this ill send some images that was planing on useing
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I love Hellsing. I'll give that a go once I finish Ubuntu.
black notification bar and when slid down its semi transparent. app draw icon to open is 100% transparent, when slide open semi trnsparent. with this design on both notification bar and app draw like the one in in Minus for cyanogens 4.0.4.
with hero icons.
theme for xrom 1.5r4.
thanks.
Hey hey, everybody! I've been running emotionless beast for a while since 1.5. I love it to death, don't get me wrong, but on an all jet black phone, IMO Nothing beats a darkstar port. So I figured wtf? Let's port one over. Problem there is I've been working 12's lately, and only get a little bit of computer time, if any during a day. Weekends, same thing . So I need to throw a request out there to any individual(s) that also would like to see this happen to help me out.
I did some custom themes on my cliq, but those were all through metamorph. So if someones willing to take the plunge and start on this project, I am more than willing to help them out on a few sections. My photoshop is ready and willing. Just need a hand and someone that can give me a stock-deodexed template to work off of. I figured if we end up doing this we should just make it for Froyo, since that is (hopefully) in the near future. It'd be kinda silly to work hard on a 2.1 theme just for it to phase out next month entirely.
Anyways... any volunteers? Concerns? Would you like to see this too? let me know.
Im working on porting my beast to froyo with the power options and everything. I got my framework-res.apk all done. I just need to modify the 3jar files. After I finish the port I was thinking of making a black and chrome theme with blue highlights. I already got my name picked out "Dark Beast". I'll gladly look into this port and add my own twist.
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Here's a link if anyone's curious to see screenshots:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679258
Yeah that is just one variety of it, there have been many versions of darkstar released. That'd be awesome, mystery if you did decide to make a "Dark Beast" I'd be glad to be a part of it/help you out with it you decide you like Darkstar and want to make a hybrid/mod type thing go down.
The things I like about darkstar is : A. The rounded screen corners give the screen/phone a very blended/smooth look to a solid black phone. B. I also just think that Jet black/green look extremely sexy complementing one another. C. It just looks overall clean and nice.
The only thing I don't like about it is most of the notif. bar icons. All white and completely boring is not my thing. I'd like to do something with them, which would be no problem.
Anyone else have an opinion either way on this?
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Im working on porting my beast to froyo with the power options and everything. I got my framework-res.apk all done. I just need to modify the 3jar files. After I finish the port I was thinking of making a black and chrome theme with blue highlights. I already got my name picked out "Dark Beast". I'll gladly look into this port and add my own twist.
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Thank you
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Hello. I have noticed over the last 3 months that the theme section has been dropping off dramatically. I dare say it has a major thing to do with JKAY which is fantastic mind you however I am still sad and want someone to make me feel better.
Themers please come out with something other than ICS for the love of god. I am willing to start a bounty.
Theme Ideas:
My number 1 picks would go in order as follows
1. ELEGANT STEEL
2. BUUF
3. MATTED BLUES
4. MULTI COLOURED GINGERBREAD
5. A NEW BLACK THEME
I am no doubt going to get flamed for this but if only I get through to 1 person I am happy
I'm not saying this trying to be funny, but i think the easiest thing to do would be to learn how to do it yourself.
There are a lot of guides around I'm sure your aware of, it's not that difficult to string some images together, the hard part is editing smali for major theme changes.
I'm guessing the main reason it's been dropping around here is people are probably in the same boat as myself, not enough spare time to do anything, and any spare time you do have, there are more important things like family etc.
Hopefully when I get my new computer for xmas I can start doing some things again (if the missus let's me of course!!).
I agree with the ICS point, they seem to be everywhere ATM lol. I'm not a fan of stock looking themes so I'll probably try and expand the v2 of glowing glass contacts and maybe update phone candy to a final and retire it.
I am willing to learn how to make themes icons even splash themes. I know the ropes of illustrator and photoshop ect. But i need a helping hand to point me out where to start with what tutoruial. In return ill post my "work" for free. Please provide me with links so i can make the next person happy.
I would like to make themes for sgs2 for people who run cm7.1
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I'm not saying this trying to be funny, but i think the easiest thing to do would be to learn how to do it yourself.
There are a lot of guides around I'm sure your aware of, it's not that difficult to string some images together, the hard part is editing smali for major theme changes.
I'm guessing the main reason it's been dropping around here is people are probably in the same boat as myself, not enough spare time to do anything, and any spare time you do have, there are more important things like family etc.
Hopefully when I get my new computer for xmas I can start doing some things again (if the missus let's me of course!!).
I agree with the ICS point, they seem to be everywhere ATM lol. I'm not a fan of stock looking themes so I'll probably try and expand the v2 of glowing glass contacts and maybe update phone candy to a final and retire it.
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Nobody has any right to flame u for saying your opinion mate but IMO themers are just waiting cuz ICS is coming quite quickly and I know someone of them is just working on leaked version just to prepare their magic.
Moreover I'm sure we'll see real beautiful things cuz everybody would like to create something better to beat Samsung UGLINESS
Personally I'm in love with ICS theme by Vertumus and I can't wait to see his beauty on real ICS firmware...but for any other themes u're asking for just be patient and wait a little and you'll see I'm f***ing right
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I am willing to learn how to make themes icons even splash themes. I know the ropes of illustrator and photoshop ect. But i need a helping hand to point me out where to start with what tutoruial. In return ill post my "work" for free. Please provide me with links so i can make the next person happy.
I would like to make themes for sgs2 for people who run cm7.1
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Probably the best one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814
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I would like to make themes for sgs2 for people who run cm7.1
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Theming for cm7 is nothing like what you see here. You need to learn the T-Mobile theme engine to create themes for cm7.
The following is a good guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964391
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Hi, I am a fan of custom bootanimations and I recently found out how to create my own. I liked doing it alot and creating each frame of it.
There are probably a lot of people who would love a custom bootanimation of their own, and I would love to help create those, because I have no idea what I could make.
So, if you have a good idea, leave it here and I'll make it for ya.
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Hi, I am a fan of custom bootanimations and I recently found out how to create my own. I liked doing it alot and creating each frame of it.
There are probably a lot of people who would love a custom bootanimation of their own, and I would love to help create those, because I have no idea what I could make.
So, if you have a good idea, leave it here and I'll make it for ya.
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thanks so much in advance
maybe start off with some football clubs ones?
and also roms / kernel based ones?
Request
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Hi, I am a fan of custom bootanimations and I recently found out how to create my own. I liked doing it alot and creating each frame of it.
There are probably a lot of people who would love a custom bootanimation of their own, and I would love to help create those, because I have no idea what I could make.
So, if you have a good idea, leave it here and I'll make it for ya.
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Hi there,
I am not sure what your limitations are so if im asking too much for what i want then please just say so. Im no artist or any good with Photoshop stuff but i have always wanted:
Gary C in the top half of the screen in holo blue with the C underneath Gary and the Leeds United badge in the bottom half. Now here comes the tricky bit. I would like it to appear as if it is sand or particles been blown in to make my name and the badge.
Is this possible? If not its fine, its just something ive wanted for awhile and i couldnt possibly do it myself as the best i draw are stick men haha. I just saw your thread so thought i would ask
Regards,
Gary,
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Hi there,
I am not sure what your limitations are so if im asking too much for what i want then please just say so. Im no artist or any good with Photoshop stuff but i have always wanted:
Gary C in the top half of the screen in holo blue with the C underneath Gary and the Leeds United badge in the bottom half. Now here comes the tricky bit. I would like it to appear as if it is sand or particles been blown in to make my name and the badge.
Is this possible? If not its fine, its just something ive wanted for awhile and i couldnt possibly do it myself as the best i draw are stick men haha. I just saw your thread so thought i would ask
Regards,
Gary,
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Do you have any fonts in mind to use for the text?
Gary
C
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Do you have any fonts in mind to use for the text?
Gary
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Erm, I never really thought about that. I've got a font called Sony sketch installed on my phone from rom toolbox, so something simlar to that if possible.
Thank-you
Allright, got the font, the text, the badge, and then the background... have anything in mind? Sand on the beach and then water waving the stuff up?
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Allright, got the font, the text, the badge, and then the background... have anything in mind? Sand on the beach and then water waving the stuff up?
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hi and sorry for the late reply. had afew things going on.
yea i quite like the idea of that thanks
regards,
Gary.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lCpPMoUTQxA
can you make this minions video tu bootanimation its funny and everyone would love it !!!
hope only that resolution would fit on SGS2 screen resolution 480x800
thanks in advance