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Haven't seen any for the EVO yet.
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Haven't seen any for the EVO yet.
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Well, I read that they already have a pretty good port for the HD2 already (Which is great for that device since a working Android port would really breathe life into it), and I would think that it would be even easier to port to the Evo simply because they are both designed to run Android.
However, I'm not sure there would really be much to gain by doing that, but maybe i'm wrong.
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Well, I read that they already have a pretty good port for the HD2 already (Which is great for that device since a working Android port would really breathe life into it), and I would think that it would be even easier to port to the Evo simply because they are both designed to run Android.
However, I'm not sure there would really be much to gain by doing that, but maybe i'm wrong.
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The new HTC Sense looks to be the grand prize from the dump.
I would like to know what dev is going to atleast attempt to port the new Sense or the ROM as a whole.
Mainly, I just want the new Sense.
I honestly don't think we're going to get close to a Desire port until the CDMA or world phone version is launched. It will be a real ***** to port the GSM frameworks to CDMA. It might be possible to get the new sense ripped out of it, but from what I've seen Sense is embedded in both the apps AND the frameworks.
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I honestly don't think we're going to get close to a Desire port until the CDMA or world phone version is launched. It will be a real ***** to port the GSM frameworks to CDMA. It might be possible to get the new sense ripped out of it, but from what I've seen Sense is embedded in both the apps AND the frameworks.
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We had the Nexus One AOSP ROM, so I don't think it would be impossible.
Hey guys, i just read an article about succesful porting Honeycomb into G1 and also to HTC Wilfire. So i was wondering, is it possible to port Honeycomb into Kaiser because Wildfire has similar specification. Thx for answers
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Hey guys, i just read an article about succesful porting Honeycomb into G1 and also to HTC Wilfire. So i was wondering, is it possible to port Honeycomb into Kaiser because Wildfire has similar specification. Thx for answers
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I'd rather port the next version of android made for smart phones. Getting Honeycomb to run even close to well on our phones would be asking a bit much i think.
I don't want anybody to do it. I was just asking if is it possible. So thanks for replying
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I don't want anybody to do it. I was just asking if is it possible. So thanks for replying
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I'd say it'd be possible, especially if someone has already sorted some 320x240 overlays for the wildfire. It'd be dog slow though i'd imagine and probably a bit difficult to use on a small screen.
I don't even think it would be possible.
Just because of RAM. There wouldn't be enough. Perhaps resizing and compressing textures and such for the small screen would decrease the payload.. but even still.
Just a suggestion, we need to do more on bringing a stable gingerbread on to Kaiser. Still it needs work regarding stability on wifi/gps and also the camera. Honeycomb maybe considered as resource intense imo.
I dont know how to port ROMs but wouldnt it be cool if we could get something like this on the Hero: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103398&page=2
Its probably a bit heavy for the Hero but I'd settle for a stripped version ...
I'm sure this will be near impossible but I also thought having Sense 2.1 would be impossible. What do the more expert devs think?
Dude, it's awesome , but where is it from? Is it a launcher from somewhere or a rom? Is there any sources about this thing, but the video? It should be possible to port, but it would be an huge advantage if we had something to port it from
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Dude, it's awesome , but where is it from? Is it a launcher from somewhere or a rom? Is there any sources about this thing, but the video? It should be possible to port, but it would be an huge advantage if we had something to port it from
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yes it is awesome! there are no official sources but if you look on the 2nd page someone has kindly got a dump of /system. I dont know if this is enough. its a full ROM not just a launcher. Where would you even start when porting something like this??
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yes it is awesome! there are no official sources but if you look on the 2nd page someone has kindly got a dump of /system. I dont know if this is enough. its a full ROM not just a launcher. Where would you even start when porting something like this??
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I can't port anything And then it has to be resized as the phone has qHD resoloution (like the Sensation and EVO 3D, so probably easier to port to those phones. And someone said it had framework depencies, so it's probably as hard to port as the Sense Launcher and widgets, but a bit harder, because you have to resize everything as well (I just guess it is not open source)...
i see this interface liter than sense UI... but not so lite as AOSP... I like to try it, it seems to be a more useful UI that Sense... Maybe the devs on the hero forum want to have a look
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I can't port anything And then it has to be resized as the phone has qHD resoloution (like the Sensation and EVO 3D, so probably easier to port to those phones. And someone said it had framework depencies, so it's probably as hard to port as the Sense Launcher and widgets, but a bit harder, because you have to resize everything as well (I just guess it is not open source)...
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yes I guess its kinda like porting MIUI to the Hero. That hasnt been achieved so I dont have high hopes for this. But I thought I'd bring it to attention anyway just in case someone fancied a challenge
It is a fair challenge, framework is probably only compatible with armv7 processors and the different screen res issues would also need looked at, so not only would everything need resized, all the xml's would need to be edited correctly as well.
The libs will be different as well and I don't think it will be a simple job of just swapping over some of ours. It is basically as hard as porting MIUI, if not harder.
ok so i'll rephrase...
I thought I'd bring it to attention anyway just in case someone fancied a MEGA challenge
it's not about a challenge...but sometimes it's not worth it... It seems that salsa sense still has the bug with the speakerphone...and i think i know why...another problems is that it sometimes it kills SETCPU and damn i need that app...
I got 2 phones...a HTC hero and a Nokia E5...and was looking today @ engadget and see that a new WP7 smartphone is coming out and it look like my e5 on the edges...and i sometimes wonder...will we ever go back to buy a nokia smarthpone even if it runs WP7...?
A problem is that phones appear like mushrooms after the rain and i wonder why buy a phone when you can get for the same price a tablet that has a larger screen, it's powerful and much more...
I personally like the HTC SENSATION...but it costs more that a tablet
I know i'm off topic with 80% of the post but tell me you guys...is it worth the challenge of killing lots and lots of time of porting another ROM from another phone that a new generation?
beatifull launcher... porting this launcher is very hard work. supported only 1Ghz snapdragon devices.
Seems that yesterday some files was uploaded for our developers to give a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103398
Now this is a nice interface and user friendly
Hello everyone.
Im a HTC Faithful and currently using an Evo 4g still. This phone is starting to show its age and im thinking of picking up a Epic Touch.
But looking at the dev section, it doesnt seem that there are that many roms in progress, let alone any updated ICS roms. There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on.
Im just wondering where all the ICS roms are. If i moved over, id prob want to stick to ICS.
Anyone move from Evo to Epic Touch and feel that there are enough roms? That its being supported as much as other HTC phones?
Any input?
Depends. The Stock Touchwiz Roms from samsung has plenty of development here. The AOSP side we just barely got a CM7/KANG that has quite a few bugs. For some those bugs arent a problem, but for me it didnt pass as a daily driver.
Also the whole Clockworkmod-fused-with-the-kernel/rom on this phone will give you a headache if this is your first time rooting a Samsung Phone.
It would be my first Samsung rooting. I have looked over the instructions and saw it's somewhat different from HTC style, but nothing I can't handle.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
No where
I see that no one has answered your main question...There are no ICS ROMs available as of right now...The deves are creating a base for it so when its possible to create one, they can implment it faster.
Uhhh. I guess the dev's are working on them.
I'd be stoked if you can work faster than they can, or pay them to work faster...
But it's not like changing a battery, there's a lot of work that goes into cooking a ROM.
They want to get CM7 complete and stable as a base to use for other Aosp roms. Samsung's official ICS for our device will have touchwiz and I think 95% of us don't want that. We need Aosp roms and kernels nailed down before we progress any further. Once the devs have a stable functional base to work from other doors will open. It takes time.
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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There may not be ICS but this is still a hell of a phone. In the market oyher than the Google phone just coming out this is the top of the line. I came from an Evo and I love it
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I think its Samsung vs HTC thing
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I think its more because Samsung is not releasing the source code, once they put it out our esteemed devs will bring ICS very fast. HTC is very fast about everything giving out source, update etc. I am just waiting for HTC to come with some phone which is a little bit better in specs and I am getting that. Samsung phones just looks beatifull. I want a phone that works as good and is backed up by support from the Manufacturer.
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Honestly the new Touchwiz isn't that bad. The only people making a big fat fuss over it seem to be previous HTC owners. Let me tell you, sense sucks big fat donkey balls compared to Touchwiz. I was a Go Launcher devotee prior to owning the Epic Touch. Touchwiz has proved to be ok for me.
I would still be completely happy with my day one purchase of Epic Touch even if we don't end up getting ICS until mid next year, gingerbread on this thing still flies compared to every other phone out there.
Furthermore, the OG Epic had a slow but steady dev community. Half the roms I flashed on the evo ended up being kangs or just plain crappy old skins. There were a few really good ones, salvagemod was the best vanilla AOSP. But really, the OG Epic community put out some real quality stuff, albeit at a slower pace.
Honest answer: jump in, the water is fine. Yeah, ICS will be quite nice once we get it, but in the meantime, there isn't a better phone you can get on sprint than the Epic touch.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Literally was writing this verbatim! LOL. I'm guessing OP posted without looking anywhere but the EVO forum and this Q and A section or the dozens of ICS threads would have reached out and smacked him in the eye.
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
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I definitely agree with you in that the Evo is old news. Which is why I'm considering the upgrade to begin with. It is showing it's age more and more.
Thank you for your input.
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Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
Does Sammy not release source code? Aren't they legally required to do this?
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
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I really don't see anyone trolling you here. Looks like a pretty tame thread to me. My comment was probably the "harshest"if you could call it that. My main point was that you stated that no one was working on ICS and I was pointing out that it would be extremely difficult to miss the fact that several devs are in fact working on ICS, MIUI, CM7+9, AOSP and more TW custom ROM's.
I don't think any of us disagree that we wish there we more things going on, but I also think people forget that the EVO dev process was not overnight. Go back to the first EVO posts and you can see that it was several weeks from release before the customization started and a couple months before things really got going. And when the EVO came out, there was zero worthy competition. Pretty much everyone jumped on the EVO train.
I don't think that anyone here is upset by your post, but I do think it discounts the efforts that have been going on for well over a month to get ICS and the other goods to this device.
"There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on." I think that statement was the one that bothered me because it clearly showed that you were making assumptions without doing any research. And we have enough people in this forum doing plenty of that already. In fact, I have never seen more dev cooperation on any other device. Take a look at the ICS thread from the beginning and you'll see some amazing teamwork. Unfortunately derailed by demanding and entitled community members and leeches, but still alive and kicking in IRC and private spaces.
But I digress, the main point, you probably wouldn't be disappointed by picking up this phone. IMO, it is the best out right now and a quick look around will show you that the number of ROMs is about to hit a stride. The dates of release can show you that new work has just arrived and its beginning to look a lot like EVO-town in here.
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Coming from the Evo 4G and writing guides and helping people on those forums for a while, I bought an E4GT.
Compared to the Evo just development wise on XDA, there aren't as many ROMs or as much development going on.
But phone wise, its a great phone and a great upgrade from the Evo 4G. Personally I use Launcher Pro/ADW so slapping that over TouchWiz is great.
Rooting is simple. There are auto roots going on and not as much of a pain as the Evo 4G. Also flashing things like Radios, ROMs, etc are faster as well because of the difference in phone speed and boot speed.
As for ICS, there was something in the works, but I think there hasn't been any much development on it.
Hello,
I saw the Verizon S3 has been given the ability to run 2 windows at the same time.
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Im just curious at why this feature hasnt been ported to the Gnex? Maybe its the hardware specs but its just a question i thought of!
Thanks for reading!:good:
Been a while since this question was asked flooded the forum daily, but the general consensus then was it is not possible w/o a touchwiz port. If you want more info, do a search, it's been talked about multiple times.
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Been a while since this question was asked flooded the forum daily, but the general consensus then was it is not possible w/o a touchwiz port. If you want more info, do a search, it's been talked about multiple times.
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yep I've been reading. there were some beta/alpha releases with touch wiz that gave the ability, very slightly. Force closed every few seconds, but other than that we would need a skilled developer and lots of time haha
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yep I've been reading. there were some beta/alpha releases with touch wiz that gave the ability, very slightly. Force closed every few seconds, but other than that we would need a skilled developer and lots of time haha
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Most of us here agree that nobody wants TW/BLUR/etc, we bought Nexus for "pure Android" or AOSP or an enhanced AOSP ROM. That is why you wont likely see fully functional ports of those skins/overlays/bloatware, we bought Nexus to get away from that bs. No offense to anybody who likes those skins or the features that they might come with, but the Nexus community is more AOSP focused.
hardware doesn't powerful enough, so if you run two window in GNexus, you will feel that works too slow
I think AOSP is great indeed! im not one for sence, unless its sense 5.0, and TW just has the neat window effect. Im sure eventually it could be created natively eventually. The Halo idea is a step towards it i think. Maybe one day!
What about Cornerstone? I loved it on my tablet, while I used it. Not sure how well it would work on a smaller screen though.
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What about Cornerstone? I loved it on my tablet, while I used it. Not sure how well it would work on a smaller screen though.
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Pretty cool reading up on it! Not an app, but has to be built into the ROM itself. Its open source now and looks doable? if there is a will, there is a way. thanks for the share!
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Pretty cool reading up on it! Not an app, but has to be built into the ROM itself. Its open source now and looks doable? if there is a will, there is a way. thanks for the share!
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Yeah, sorry if I created any confusion. It definitely needs to be baked into the ROM source. "He who we do not name" had an Iconia A500 ICS ROM with Cornerstone built in. It was nice but he didn't include it in future releases of ICS or JB. My understanding is, is that it's really designed for larger screen devices like tablets. I'm pretty sure text etc. would be too small to read in the smaller multitasking windows. But running 2+ apps at once on a GNex and being able to bring them to the larger window at will would be pretty darn sweet. :highfive:
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Yeah, sorry if I created any confusion. It definitely needs to be baked into the ROM source. "He who we do not name" had an Iconia A500 ICS ROM with Cornerstone built in. It was nice but he didn't include it in future releases of ICS or JB. My understanding is, is that it's really designed for larger screen devices like tablets. I'm pretty sure text etc. would be too small to read in the smaller multitasking windows. But running 2+ apps at once on a GNex and being able to bring them to the larger window at will would be pretty darn sweet. :highfive:
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Hell yeah!
Here are some nightly builds it appears for the GNEX, but not for toro, which i have.
Link is here
In all honesty, why? The device's age is clearly showing with the ongoing firmware updates that are optimized for higher end devices. The GN, while still a great phone, is becoming somewhat slow and I can't see a mod like this being any better.
It would be indeed a cool idea for the N4 though.
you can try to do a full wipe, it often works
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In all honesty, why? The device's age is clearly showing with the ongoing firmware updates that are optimized for higher end devices. The GN, while still a great phone, is becoming somewhat slow and I can't see a mod like this being any better.
It would be indeed a cool idea for the N4 though.
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I agree. :good:
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I agree. :good:
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Mine as well keep whats alive alive! the development in the gnex is still outstanding.