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Hey guys, I don't know whether ur scared of the topic but no one has found ways to better the sound quality of the phone . Everyone is able to port stuff and create roms but never anything about sound improvement like porting dolby from other android mobile.
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when is say sound quality, i mean music quality through earphones. i got a pair of sennheisers cx400
Mine plays very good. Comparable to iriver T60.
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I'm using Sennheiser CX 300 II and the quality is fine. Better then my creative zen.
Audio from the speaker is dreadful.
drew2d1 said:
I'm using Sennheiser CX 300 II and the quality is fine. Better then my creative zen.
Audio from the speaker is dreadful.
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Ditto....listening to them as I type....there is a slight hiss when sound goes quite...but still nice enough sound.
But I would like to experience better quality if its possible.
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Why are there 2 of the same threads going on? Mods, remove the one in Dev section...
My 2p regarding headphones, mine is fine with Sennheiser HD25 Mk2s
whats this dsp manager thing about
The Desire sound quality is fine, its your earphones that are the problem.
I made the mistake of buying some cx400s after owning some cx300s that broke. The cx400s were more expensive and thought the sound would be better but they sounded flat compared to the cx300.
Now I use some £80 kipsch earphones and the difference between the cheap sennheisers is amazing. So I suggest buying a decent pair of earphones ie £60+ to hear what the Desire can do.
paulruk> earphones sounding flat (=linear) does not mean they are bad at all. All monitoring speakers and stage earphones have flat output. Use a software DSP before the output (for instance DSPManager) if you want louder low's and high's. Flat output is usually best when you want to get all the mediums in classical music.
I've got westone UM2, linear output, DSP Manager does wonders on house / rock music.
what is dsp manager. any pics. pls. anything would be helpful. is it anything like equalisers on mixzing or astro player.
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paulruk> earphones sounding flat (=linear) does not mean they are bad at all. All monitoring speakers and stage earphones have flat output. Use a software DSP before the output (for instance DSPManager) if you want louder low's and high's. Flat output is usually best when you want to get all the mediums in classical music.
I've got westone UM2, linear output, DSP Manager does wonders on house / rock music.
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ok sorry , what I meant was that the cx400s sounded like they had no bass, and no treble. It was all in the middle.
I find the sound quality on the desire great. I am currently using Sony Ericsson mw600...
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when i plug my Ultimate Ears Triple-fi 10 vi into my desire, the sound is not good as iPhone 4, the sound in desire is 'no bass no triple'. it like a inverted "U".
is there any solution instead of install another music player?
Guys have you tried PowerAMP music player, which has a good equalizer with pre-amp + separate bass and treble knobs that can be enabled/disabled. Also I am using Sony
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... Sony MDR-EDL12LP Bass Boost headset (costs abt 20-25 eur) 108 dB, 8-22000 kHz I know this is not a top notch stuff at all but imo that's a very good combination, I'm pretty satisfied and pleased with the sound quality.
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PowerAMP is indeed a great if not from far the best music player available on android. It has most of the stuff you would need (except online podcasting stuff) such as an equalizer with common presets and flac support
Now when we are at it, how does the Desire stack up against higher-end DAP's? Using a iAudio 7 with some Etymotic MC5's right now, but would like to know if the Desire is just half as good as the iAudio
Everybody use sony mdr- ex 57lp earbuds this is the best and cheap read test about it.
Their cannot be the best warphone for everyone (personal preferences). Furthermore, I am pretty sure there are better ones than the ones you suggested.
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I also have a cx300s and compare to the sony mdr- ex 57 that sound like ****
Guys What is your opinion about the headphone audio quality from op3? I know audio is subjective and it depends upon your listening equipment too but nonetheless share your opinion.
P.S - I know it's not better than HTC 10 but comparison with HTC 10 would be a good reference.
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Guys What is your opinion about the headphone audio quality from op3? I know audio is subjective and it depends upon your listening equipment too but nonetheless share your opinion.
P.S - I know it's not better than HTC 10 but comparison with HTC 10 would be a good reference.
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I didnt read anything about them mentioning a dac for the Oneplus3. Nevertheless, i still ordered it lol.
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I didnt read anything about them mentioning a dac for the Oneplus3. Nevertheless, i still ordered it lol.
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I see you have a HTC 10, please share your opinion once you receive the op3
I'll be getting one too, so I'll report about it. Unfortunately there aren't many, if any USB-C Portable DAC, if you wanted to use one to boost audio quality/performance.
I'm also wondering the same thing and it's basically what's holding me from buying the phone.
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I'm also wondering the same thing and it's basically what's holding me from buying the phone.
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It uses NXP Audio Amplifier. I had the review unit and did a teardown with one of my friends. The sound quality is Good via the headphone jack but it feels quite flat. You can fix this by Using V4A Or other EQs. It uses a Dirac HD Sound too.
As said, it uses the standard snapdragon 820 audio circuit and 24bit 192 kHz built in dac. As in the S7, audio is unexceptional (exynos version has wolfson derived Dac and is better but is said to still not be up to outboard Dac/amplifier quality).
Apps like viper and power amp will not help to increase sound quality. They may make things sound different but the limitations are hardware based. If anything, they put more strain on resources. Sure, if the pretty multi coloured lights appeal, use them. Otherwise you're better off with Google standard music player or something like black player.
If audio is of utmost importance go HTC/LG or outboard dac such as dragon fly.
mk_1996 said:
It uses NXP Audio Amplifier. I had the review unit and did a teardown with one of my friends. The sound quality is Good via the headphone jack but it feels quite flat. You can fix this by Using V4A Or other EQs. It uses a Dirac HD Sound too.
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can you tell me how to prove whether Dirac HD Sound is there or not as there is no app also as per their website Indian one it says for speaker optimization only
How's that in comparison to the iphone's ? I'm gonna buy that dope today
Hello, is there any information about The DAC used in HTC e9 plus? I am an audiophile and would like to know more. Thnx all
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Hello, is there any information about The DAC used in HTC e9 plus? I am an audiophile and would like to know more. Thnx all
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Iam not sure about the DAC used in e9plus, but it is better than the Note 5 wolfson DAC which is considered to be a high quality DAC in mobile ) . Even the amplifier is bit powerful than the note 5.The instrument seperation and sound stage is better in htc e9plus. But still the bass is punchy and dont feel like artificially created. I use Audio technica M50x.
I dont turn on the htc boom audio while using headphone because i like the actual sound.
I was lucky and got an HTC 10 with high res earbuds but now my other headphones suck except the beyerdynamic DT 770 pro but they are not for everyday use
What do you guys use?
Btw. Are the Apple Earpods working for you? Mine are not recognized by the phone...
there really isn't a specific recommendation.... it's totally dependant on your tastes...
I will buy your hi res headphones from you
Hehe I don't sell them
I have beats Tour and beats power and they sound aweful.
My beloved earpods are not recognized by my phone, sadly.
Maybe they are too old.
I also tested some Philips and they were aweful too.
I need some recommendations
I bought 1more dual driver and im really satisfy
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I'm using ultimate ears triple fi 10 with headphone amplifier. Works great, but i have to put off boom sound software feature to get full range music. The bass boost with boom sound is just rubbish and kills the mids completly. So i dont really use 10's special music features unless the enhanced powered headphone jack. Besides that every 820 device should sound the same as they are using the same DAC.
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... every 820 device should sound the same as they are using the same DAC.
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HTC claimed they worked with Qualcomm to optimise the output circuitry to work with the DAC so it would be better than other implementations. I don't know how much difference it made...
What type of earphones are you looking for? In ear, on ear, over ear?
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No in ears
Something like https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B0080..._SR100,100_&psc=1&refRID=WSNP2ASJPR562DCAQCKY
Or.
https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B014W...bo+play+h7&dpPl=1&dpID=419IfVJf+sL&ref=plSrch
I've been very satisfied with the RHA Ma750s. If you like cheaper earpods I've tried Samsung's ear pods that are included w/ the gs6 which sound pretty good.
I've also found on bass heavy sets (in my case Bose IE2s, in your case beats tour) it helps to create an audio profile and set the first 2 frequencies to minimum, set mid to 3-4, and set the two high freqs to 9-10. This helps with the lack of treble response on bass heavy earbuds.
I recommend checking out head-fi forums for some advice, but for ear buds, I love my AKG K318s. They are open back ear buds and the have pretty fantastic clarity and openness to them for being ear buds. They are great in the mids to highs, but bass response isn't that great - depends on your music tastes. They are perfect for rock/classical/vocals stuff like that. For bassier stuff, I use a pair of V-Moda BassFreq but I dont believe either of these are made anymore. I use mostly Sennheiser Momentum over-ear and on-ears at work, and Philips SHP9500/Grado SR80 at home.
I use klipsch x12i in ears.
They're pricey but well worth it.
Came from klipsch x10i and x11i.
Once you've had a pair, you're hooked.
They sound amazing...
The HTC 10 is a great audio device but it certainly doesn't sound the same as any other mobile device using the Qualcomm 820 SoC....
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
Audiotechnica ATH-M50 headphones for the win!
I use the headphones at work and there is a SIGNIFICANT sound quality difference from when I plug it into my PC vs my HTC 10. The 10 adds another dimension to the music and makes it sounds more... vibrant?
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The HTC 10 is a great audio device but it certainly doesn't sound the same as any other mobile device using the Qualcomm 820 SoC....
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
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Not quite my friend...
Taken from:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-audio-testing-boomsound-evolved
"Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 does a lot of things right, but clear audio isn't one of those things. Something in the digital to analog converter circuit introduces an extreme amount of noise and crosstalk into the analog output, and phones like the U.S. Galaxy S7 and LG G5 sound pretty poor because of this. After doing some testing, I was presented with results that just didn't make sense from the HTC 10 — it was better than it should be, even with extra work and attention to the analog circuit that brings signal from the DAC output to the headphone jack. You can only do so much magic to a bad signal. I asked HTC how they did it, and found out that some assumptions about the HTC 10 audio hardware that the internet (and myself) has are incorrect. The HTC 10 uses a stand-alone DAC as well as headphone amp and isn't using the Snapdragon 820 DAC. This is pretty important, and why the HTC 10 sounds as good as it does.
We use a discrete DAC (not one on the SoC) in addition to the amp and have done a ton of PCB engineering to insure the best possible signal-to-noise ratio. Credit to HTC engineering, not off-the-shelf components.
So much for relying on the internet. That's a mistake I won't make again.
Needless to say, the results of my benchmark testing with the HTC 10 are pretty damn outstanding."
The discrete DAC is the Qualcomm Aqstic and it sounds awesome, the best I've ever heard in a phone.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
Xiaomi Piston 3's sound AMAZING for the price, which is around $12, but for best SQ you need to be careful to avoid fakes, replace the tips (included tips are rubbish), and burn them in for ~50 hrs.
I currently use the Audio-Technica ATH-CKR10 and it sounds amazing for my type of music (edm, trance, vocal trance) although they are quite expensive at around 200 your best bet is to get them from amazon and make sure its fulfilled by amazon, for some reason the other listings are always 300-600 bucks....
Ordered some Sony bluetooth over the ear headphones on Amazon prime day, work great. They were 50% off
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whatthefunk said:
The discrete DAC is the Qualcomm Aqstic and it sounds awesome, the best I've ever heard in a phone.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
Xiaomi Piston 3's sound AMAZING for the price, which is around $12, but for best SQ you need to be careful to avoid fakes, replace the tips (included tips are rubbish), and burn them in for ~50 hrs.
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Would you mind sharing a link of a legit seller for the Xiaomi earbuds? I tried purchasing a set last summer but got burned by eBay seller and received a knock off. One of the earbuds volume was significantly lower (almost nonexistent) than the other earbud. Would like to try out some quality hi-res earbuds, my 2013 Beats Tours are pretty disappointing in both the sound department, as well as them constantly falling out of my ears.
But as far as Headphones go, My Beats Studio 2.0's sound amazing when I Calibrate the sound profile to them. The Dolby effects "Studio" setting really helps separate the sound stage nicely. So nice, it's allowed me to fight off the itch to mess around with V4A and all the other sound mods I have run in the past, and a much nicer richer listening experience as well.
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For bang for the bucks, try VSONIC GR07, despite the lame plastic chassis, it really does sound like a ~200-dollar-headphone. I like it more than my UE triple.fi, even UE900, sound-wise.
So i'm using the "Bose Soundsport" while in gym, on the bike or just walking outside. Although i'm not a big fan of Bose products i can highly recommend these because they are so damn comfortable as they are between real In-Ears and EarPods and sound excellent for their size. (way better than the High Res HTC In-Ears)
At home or while working i take my "Bowers & Wilkins P7", which were brought on a new level when i switched from HTC M7 to HTC 10!
But in the end it depends on what sound you like and the quality you use...for me it was always hard to find good headphones as i hear very different genres like Hiphop, Rock, Punk-Rock, House, Jazz etc.
I found some crazy earphone
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ance-320-ohms-earbud/1924356_32302987270.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ohms-earbud-earphone/1924356_32411358569.html
I know they are ugly but they are review well in head-fi.org.
Dont waste your money, buy soundmagic e10.
You can read reviews, i did it and it is best one i have had ever , better than bose,denon....
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ferdyconde said:
Dont waste your money, buy soundmagic e10.
You can read reviews, i did it and it is best one i have had ever , better than bose,denon....
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But it won't trigger the quad dac.Because it has 46ohms similar my apple earpod.Only 50+impedance will trigger the quad dac.
Btw Soundmagic e50 has 50-51ohms.
You try it and later decide. Another one that people say good things is Fiio
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But it won't trigger the quad dac.Because it has 46ohms similar my apple earpod.Only 50+impedance will trigger the quad dac.
Btw Soundmagic e50 has 50-51ohms.
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Will Creative Aurvana Live! work well with DAC on this phone?
https://en.creative.com/p/headphones-headsets/aurvana-live
https://www.head-fi.org/f/showcase/creative-aurvana-live-headphones.6798/
Maybe it would be good thread to write how to determine if headphones are appropriate for that phone?
I'm waiting for my new LG G6 and I'm wondering if I will need to change my old headphones...
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sojkin said:
Will Creative Aurvana Live! work well with DAC on this phone?
https://en.creative.com/p/headphones-headsets/aurvana-live
https://www.head-fi.org/f/showcase/creative-aurvana-live-headphones.6798/
Maybe it would be good thread to write how to determine if headphones are appropriate for that phone?
I'm waiting for my new LG G6 and I'm wondering if I will need to change my old headphones...
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I guess not.Because it has only 32ohm.
You can try a high impedance adapter from ebay 7-8$ with your current headphone.
Just look for the headphone impedance,which has minimum 50ohm.
Note-I am not a sound specialist, i just get some idea after googling.
Soundmagic E50C-51 ohms
Soundmagic E80C-64ohms
For reference Sound magic is an award winning company for providing best bang for buck quality
My Sennheiser Momentum 2 are 18 Ω and they trigger the quad-DAC.
I have problem with choosing Senheiser Momentum in ear G or RHA MA750i. Somebody have some recommendations?
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There is a simple way to activate the sabre amplifier.
Get a 3.5mm male to female adapter. Connect to lg g6 . it will activate external adapter connected.
Then plug in your standard <50ohm headphones.
Enjoy.
you can try to apply for this|
https://www.lgrebates.com/LG-Entertainment-bundle
Well i Have EC10's with 46 Ohm. They only trigger External mode with the included Y-Adapter. The Earphones sound superb on pretty much every Device except the G6. The Quad DAC cancels out the Dynamics and Bass. If you like neutral analytic sound you will be very satisfied. If you want atmospheric, open wide airy Sound, you will be dissapointed a lot. The DAC will go into HiFi mode when using the E50s or E80s. But the Sound signature wont improve, your AMP will just be driven harder which equals in louder sound. Thats basically the whole point of the HiFi mode. If you use Headphones with 250 Ohms it would be extremely quiet in Normal Audio mode, so a better solution is to give this privilege to the higher Ohm headphones and not drive the AMP with full power when something with low resistance is plugged in. This is needed to prevent your headphones from taking damage, improvide battery life (A AMP can draw more power then your CPU). And to guarantee a clear sound playback because lower end Headphones will distort to that point that everything is just buzzing if you drive them with a lot of power.
I will try OneMore E1001 Ref Headphones and see if the sound improves but i doubt that because my USB DAC (70-200$) sounds miles better with the same EC10s that i use with my G6.
All of my earphones trigger the DAC even cheap ones, I have however purchased some Soundmagic E80's and all I can say is WOW, easily the best earphones I have ever used and highly recommended. Purchased refurbished (but appear to be new and unused customer return) on eBay for £35 with three sets of Comply tips thrown in http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321924939199
I have the Sony mdr-100aap, with IMPEDANCE (OHM)
24 Ω at 1 kHz. Should it trigger the dac? They are supposed to be HiFi compatible. I only see normal headphones when plugged.
If all you are looking at is impedance rating to trigger the amp, you are doing it wrong. Find the headphone that sounds best to you *regardless* of impedance, and let the phone do its job.
My vote is for the Campfire Audio Nova or Dorado.
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I found some crazy earphone
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ance-320-ohms-earbud/1924356_32302987270.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ohms-earbud-earphone/1924356_32411358569.html
I know they are ugly but they are review well in head-fi.org.
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That website has a popup that I can't get around on my phone, and I refuse to click it. Bull**** site. Search for venture electronics instead.
I did see they're the VE Zen earbuds briefly, I heard they're like the VE Monk with bass. That is a REALLY good thing. I can't justify the $150 though many can and likely should. The Monks are really good.
Guys, if you're looking for clear and precise sound, I strongly recommend you to look at the balanced armature headphones. Instead of 1 dynamic driver which covers the entire frequency range they have 1,2,3... practically up to as many as you wish drivers each for a specific frequency segment. A lot of manufacturers make it, such as Sony, Sure, Audio Technica, RHA, Vsonic, Dunu. I'm pretty happy with my Sony XBA-A2 headphones which has always sounded good with any source and with LG G6 their potential is being even more fully unlocked
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My Sennheiser Momentum 2 are 18 Ω and they trigger the quad-DAC.
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How ? Does it show high impedance mode in DAC settings ?
Guys realy ?Many same question.
Ok then last time.
Minimum OHM 50 ..This working minimum(QDAC) (OR trick search v10 or v20 high gain trick(need special cables)
So 18 ,24 ,33 ,16 NOT trigger..50+?Yes!
But the headphone not all...Need music player .HD music supported professional music palyer: Poweramp(need setup) usb audiplayer pro(need setup) or totaly free HibyMusic player(need setup)
And last...Good quality music(recomendent 24bit 96Khz minumum)Then happaning the magic!
Elnrik said:
If all you are looking at is impedance rating to trigger the amp, you are doing it wrong. Find the headphone that sounds best to you *regardless* of impedance, and let the phone do its job.
My vote is for the Campfire Audio Nova or Dorado.
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Absolutely correct...
Sound quality is subjective... People should stop worrying about the amount of impedance... And look for the headphones they like...
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I have purchased Sound Magic E80C... Will share my observations, once I test them with my new LG G6 and also with other mobiles/DACs...