[Must read] broken forum - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

Devs, n00bs, seniors, everyone. Please calm down.
N00bs..read before you post. This is a big cause to recent drama. I read a thread today and the same question was asked and answered on like3 straight pages... this is not called for.
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
Everyone else please don't fight and make things worse. Help the n00bs with links to forum rules and such.
I make all these mistakes too. But we need to fix it. We are losing our community.
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I'll add to this a bit if you don't mind. Any noobs feel free to pm me whatever the question may be and I will try to help. There is no sense starting a new thread because 99%of the time the question has been answered and i honestly I like to help. I don't have time to develop so this is my attempt to give back to a community I got a lot out of. I may not have your answer but will most likely be able to send you in the right direction and knipp is extremely helpful and knowledgeable as well. I personally don't care but don't post a thread like help plz I bricked my phone in the dev section unless you have a pair of flame retardant pants. Look bottom line is I'm here to help if anyone needs it
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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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knipp21 said:
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
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This. It's extremely refreshing when a dev spends good time creating a ROM for a phone. It's nice to be handed a ROM that has been tested and is essentially bug free. I praise the guys that do that, and the guys that stick to their work. Doing it for fun rather than for money.
Of course I'm not expecting a good ROM to fall into our laps, I do like to follow projects from start to finish just as long as the dev(s) are working solely on that project - Like Cyanogen.

I agree about posting ROMs that are fully tested.. but then only 10 or so get to enjoy the ROM until it's stable. It's nice having everyone give feedback because 100 testers is better than 10. But I 100% agree with you, we need to get this community back on track, and we as users can help indefinitely.
We need to remember, not too long ago we we n00bs. I didn't even know what an .apk was. Now I know how to edit and decompile .apks.
Let's help to make this a fun and sharing community again.

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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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Great idea. I'm in a radar class all week so I can't do it but if anyone wants to that would be awesome. I hope our mod will sticky it.
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Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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oxlong27 said:
Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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Include the fact you can't use sense programs on aosp roms. And other stuff lol
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Haha ill put that in bold. Hlp plzzz flashed tiamat on skyraider and i can haz no wifi. Hahahahahahah
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Yes, you have to wipe.

Hey guys im not gonna get to starr the all in one thread tonight my son is crazy sick and cant sleep. Ill start tomorrow night, meanwhile shoot me some suggestions on what you think should be included
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ics developement mt4g (please close)

I feel like we can do a better job and keep the moderators happy while still making progress on pics for mt4g... but let's keep it together this time..
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let's reopen by moving back to general thread see how we do.. I think the desire s port had the most working I.e. GPS etc.. we should start with a port.. a work on one at a time.. wifi is the biggest need it seems for most
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So....what is the purpose of this thread?
to figure out how to get the ball rolling in an organized way again.. I pm'd mars who ported desire s to see if we can start there again.. I don't know if he can or will use this for his port.. or if we go back to the general thread... I just think to much progress was being made to shut down..
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I just think to much progress was being made to shut down..
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The mods obviously disagreed, so what makes you think starting another thread in the development section was a good idea?
The dev section is for posting actual software...ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc. Not for discussions. That's what the General section is for.
well for starters...
WHY IS THIS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION????
btw, ever think of WHY so many devs are leaving and giving up? maybe it's because people like you are spamming the dev section and the rom threads with random garbage.
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well for starters...
WHY IS THIS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION????
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Yeah if there is no rom under development this should be moved to general. Le sigh.
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I actually thought one of the ports could start posting here... one.. but it is irrelevant.. I just heard from the mod.. a new thread is going to open from the original OP.. just cleaner..so disregard... and we wait
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i really really hate it how the ICS development ended... i just hope it will come back soon.
thanks everyone for all the your hard work
I do have an idea. IDK if you'd agree on this but heres my idea:
All developers from the Desire S, MT4G, Desire HD need to come together to work on ICS. Things would get done faster and we'd basically have the same builds but the developers would independently work on drivers and such alone unless they want to work on 3 devices completely.
I'm just saying this because then the work could get done much faster with developers pulling together. The only other option seems to create additional threads like some others have with different ports but make them completely separate. I do agree that many builds should not be posted within 1 thread. However, I do not agree we should only have 1 thread on ICS. I also agree that people shouldn't be asking the same questions over and over. We could possibly develop some kind of bug reporting policy. The devs could use our help and by us reporting the bugs and making logcats we can further help the developing along faster.
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i really really hate it how the ICS development ended... i just hope it will come back soon.
thanks everyone for all the your hard work
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What happened was people couldn't wait one damn minute for a upload and couldn't read what was posted a page back. It was disrespectful. Try doing that on any other thread. It would've came if people just had patients. People have lives outside of xda. (Jobs) Hopefully next time it won't be like that. I'm gonna go on cm7 and post a port of cm9 because they are taking too damn long...get it?
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What happened was people couldn't wait one damn minute for a upload and couldn't read what was posted a page back. It was disrespectful. Try doing that on any other thread. It would've came if people just had patients. People have lives outside of xda. (Jobs) Hopefully next time it won't be like that. I'm gonna go on cm7 and post a port of cm9 because they are taking too damn long...get it?
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Every freaking comment was about the stupid wifi issue, a person didn't need to read more than 3 posts up to know that was an issue. Some peoples kids I tell ya! Read at least the last few pages and get a.decent feel for how the rom is, and if you want a stable rom...then you probly shouldn't flash a BETA rom geesh
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like i said before...
devs are leaving the MT4G because so many people are just spamming the dev section and ROM threads with random useless crap.
JUST STOP IT GUYS!!
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Every freaking comment was about the stupid wifi issue, a person didn't need to read more than 3 posts up to know that was an issue. Some peoples kids I tell ya! Read at least the last few pages and get a.decent feel for how the rom is, and if you want a stable rom...then you probly shouldn't flash a BETA rom geesh
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I'm in agreement with everything u just said bro...and I just got a glimpse if what it feels like to be a real dev...wow...and all I did was share a port I made...ppl need to chill, show some appreciation and relax...most importantly, RELAX!
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saranhai said:
like i said before...
devs are leaving the MT4G because so many people are just spamming the dev section and ROM threads with random useless crap.
JUST STOP IT GUYS!!
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What are you doing by repeating the same ****?
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marseillesw said:
I'm in agreement with everything u just said bro...and I just got a glimpse if what it feels like to be a real dev...wow...and all I did was share a port I made...ppl need to chill, show some appreciation and relax...most importantly, RELAX!
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All I did was read the comments and wait till it was ready enough looks like the form is down unless.... does this mean no ics rom?
And can't they band a user from certain threads that the creator started to avoid spamming ?
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I'm contacting a mod,asap.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
why the thread was closed? why peoples are fighting here. Just sit relax and wait for the developers to work or otherwise port the rom yourself, well its a saying that a man is always unthankful
i hate people who whine and complain about ****....
Whiners should FIX the problem.. if they cant, they need to STFU...

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He posted something earlier that he was leaving xda and wouldn't say the reason. But that it's deeper than we think and it has nothing to do with the users. He said to follow him on google+ but I couldn't find his account on his xda page.
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Great WTF are we going to do now!
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XDA is deleting any questions about this too... Stay classy guys
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He attacked me personally when I was trying to complement someone other than him in his thread... He then went on to delete my subsequent replies because they made him look bad... I'll miss his ROMs but certainly not him!
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He attacked me personally when I was trying to complement someone other than him in his thread... He then went on to delete my subsequent replies because they made him look bad... I'll miss his ROMs but certainly not him!
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may have jumped the gun posting this....believe i had a misunderstanding myself. the threads are back, likely just some cleaning up to do.
that being said, i've never seem tdj post anything that spoke poorly of his character. i've 3 kids & i'm sure i wouldn't have his patience & temperament dealing with what gets directed at him around here. and i'll agree with you on one thing...i would miss his roms if they were no longer available
edit: mods -- feel free to close/delete this thread

TDJ thread

TDJ's Dev threads should all be visible again.
Also, for all those looking for it, here is a link to TDJ's G+ page: https://plus.google.com/110028656953160917856/posts
Please do not start any more threads on this matter - feel free to use this thread to rant, complain or whatever but any other threads will be deleted to keep the section tidy.
edit: just to be clear though, I'm not promising to answer any questions - I'm not going to comment here, it's just a replacement/substitute for the multitude of threads that were popping up on this matter.
Thank you for restoring the threads.
I'm not here to get myself in trouble and being as I am relatively new to the site I wanted to ask one question and make one comment.
Comment: Out of 104 replies, 52 people are using TDJ's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681221
With that being said:
Question: Is it a common practice to remove such work without notice or an explanation? I know we are all human and emotions come into play and by all means I am not questioning the actions of any mod but maybe, based on the comment above, things should be handled better in the future. Just a suggestion.
Why doesn't dark side evolution do my laundry?
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Thank you for putting his stuff back up. I for one appreciate his work (amongst many others) and appreciate him standing up for what is right when we see people doing wrong. I've seen other devs insult his work (comparing roms) and not once have I seen him stoop to their levels. I for one would like to know why this happened and is anyone else treated like this? I hope there are no agendas or favortism on this board. Punish the ones who do wrong or steal, and not the hard workers. There's my rant and I know I'm not important enough to be responded to and don't expect it. Again thanks for placing his great work back on this forum
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Why were they deleted?
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What's going on?
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It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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I totally agree. Who stole his rom?
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xUnreachablex said:
It would appear that on XDA stealing is OK but calling people out for stealing is cause for removal of your work. TDJ wouldn't have been the first one to have his work or RD status removed, have you ever wondered about posters who have a very low post/thanks count yet have a intimate knowledge of XDA and the topics on which they are posting? They are the biggest game in town so they kind of have us but they aren't the only one.
I am in no way speaking for TDJ, my words are my own. Ban me if you wish, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Unfortunately there is a reason people move their work to Rootzwiki and don't deal with XDA. I make no preference on any side of any matter. I know TDJ called out a so called Dev for using his work for their ROM and they seemingly did nothing before posting but not sure what other drama came out from that. I don't think anyone here would doubt TDJ's dev abilities and if the mods keep their actions of punishing the real devs and not the kangers then XDA will become a ghost town i predict.
The people who suffer most are the end users, Devs don't have to do this and put their work here they are doing XDA a favor by doing so, it seems XDA needs a Mod overhaul . This has been the most pathetic excuse for a development section in any forum that I have ever been in and its not the DEVS 8 out of 10 times.
Is TDJ gone? Dam u xda you just keep running good devs out of here!!
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It's probably best if all disputes are handled through the mods or PM. Starting a war in any devs thread is frowned upon and you know how loyal crackflashers can be. You call a dev out and the people who enjoy their work are going to rage. This is just my view on what happened.
I would have done it the same way TDJ did so I understand why it went down like it did. I'm very glad he's sticking around, he's a huge asset to our community.
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Thank you for restoring TDJ's threads... and also thank you to TDJ for all of your hard work in creating some of the best ROMS on XDA. Without TDJ's work I can safely say that I wouldn't even be posting on XDA right now... keep up the great job.
And thanks again for BETA 07... I would post in the relevant thread but I don't have permissions to do so yet
:-/ XDA has made me sad as of late.....
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FOREVER RUNNING DARKSIDE!

Noobs, trolls and Know-it-alls......

Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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akindbro4u said:
Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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bigtom624 said:
I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1
scooter247 said:
I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
Wood

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I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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djtheraven said:
I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?
algorhythm said:
Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Very well said
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.
So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.

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