Can anyone find this type of case for our phones? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Im really loving this style of case. Is anything like it made for our phone
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-GAL...ccessories&hash=item336b28d960#ht_3081wt_1021

Very cool! I want one too!

Whoah! That case is super dope!!! It is now THE case that I want. Hope they release an epic 4g touch version soon. Thanks for the heads up on this case!

bds120 said:
Im really loving this style of case. Is anything like it made for our phone
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-GAL...ccessories&hash=item336b28d960#ht_3081wt_1021
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whaaaaaaat that **** is fire i want one let us know if you do find one

I stumbled upon this looking for a case a few days ago. Has the kickstand and all doesnt look like it would be too good for drops, though. TPU cases are money!
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=58196

bds120 said:
Im really loving this style of case. Is anything like it made for our phone
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-GAL...ccessories&hash=item336b28d960#ht_3081wt_1021
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That is one sweet looking case.
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ripalsanghani said:
I stumbled upon this looking for a case a few days ago. Has the kickstand and all doesnt look like it would be too good for drops, though. TPU cases are money!
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=58196
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Isn't that the same one sprint sells
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Yes. I use it daily and loving it, doesnt add any bulk. Putting a case on the thinnest phone Available kind of defeats the purpose dont you think?
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mnsportsguy1978 said:
Yes. I use it daily and loving it, doesnt add any bulk. Putting a case on the thinnest phone Available kind of defeats the purpose dont you think?
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If thin is the reason you bought the phone then yeah

That's really cool. Has anybody seen any sports cases yet? I search ebay and amazon all the time and just get designs and plain colors. For me Cubs, Bills, Lakers, and Lakers. ya I live in iowa and my teams are all over lol
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and, I have the "dropsies", so I am looking for an Otterbox/Ballistic type of protection; anyone found something like that yet?
thanks

I just found one like it!
Its a belt clip on holster style case with a protective cover that stays on the phone.
I just ordered one. I will let you know how it is when I get it.
It was $14.99 with $4.99 shipping, and comes with a usb cable.
Here is the description, and a link to amazon:
USA Gear Impact-Resistant Hard Shell Case With Quick-Loading Removable Holster for Sprint Samsung Epic Touch 4G **Includes Micro USB Cable**
Sorry, but XDA would not let me post a link. But it is on Amazon.

Mr Global said:
I just found one like it!
Its a belt clip on holster style case with a protective cover that stays on the phone.
I just ordered one. I will let you know how it is when I get it.
It was $14.99 with $4.99 shipping, and comes with a usb cable.
Here is the description, and a link to amazon:
USA Gear Impact-Resistant Hard Shell Case With Quick-Loading Removable Holster for Sprint Samsung Epic Touch 4G **Includes Micro USB Cable**
Sorry, but XDA would not let me post a link. But it is on Amazon.
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Yea I was going to tell you all. I found this one also but it says kickstand but where is it??

I don't think that the one I ordered from Amazon has a kickstand.
I looked the description over again, and I didn't see it mentioned.
-Aaron

bds120 said:
Yea I was going to tell you all. I found this one also but it says kickstand but where is it??
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Lol... I ordered this on Friday too!
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kkwus74 said:
Lol... I ordered this on Friday too!
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Hey when you get it...please let a brotha know. I am super interested in this. If it comes what is says please report to us. The outer case still does not look as sturdy as the one I originally posted but I am still interested.

bds120 said:
Hey when you get it...please let a brotha know. I am super interested in this. If it comes what is says please report to us. The outer case still does not look as sturdy as the one I originally posted but I am still interested.
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Sure.... I needed a case with a holster abs this was the only option now...
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bds120 said:
Im really loving this style of case. Is anything like it made for our phone
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-GAL...ccessories&hash=item336b28d960#ht_3081wt_1021
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If they make that for our Epic, I'm all over it.
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(Temporarily Out Of Stock) SGP Slider Vibrant! Come and get 'em!

Ok, I just happened to notice they finally have the Slider case for the Vibrant in The SGP Store.
Yesterday they still weren't up yet.
Remember, this is for the Vibrant and not just another i9000 case.
Here is the link:
http://www.sgpstore.com/index.php/cPath/23_29
I'm picking one up ASAP!
EDIT 9/2/2010: Apparently The company has run into some production problems.
That is why the cases have been delayed.
The entries have since been removed from their website.
Is that the same as the magenta one in tmobile stores?
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disturkis4u said:
Is that the same as the magenta one in tmobile stores?
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no, it's not a silicone case.
It is a slider case.
Very nice and sleek
ARRRRG!!! theyre not in stock yet!
Edit: I ran to get my CC
Actually, T-Mobile does offer a similar case to the Slide cases mentioned, and only in the magenta color (so far, anyway).
Just for kicks, I tried it on my phone, but the plastic just seems cheap and it doesn't feel all that secure where the parts join. I would hope that the SGP ones are better quality than the no-name ones T-Mobile offers.
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Sorry for the double post, but here is a picture of the case I was talking about
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Sorry for the double post, but here is a picture of the case I was talking about
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Hmm, Thanks for sharing!
i kinda does look like it
Do you mind taking more pictures of the case on/off the phone?
Ty
best looking cases for this phone imo. wish it had a little kickstand type thing. . .
Looks awesome, buying ASAP!
Title says it all
But on related note, is the included screen protector good? I was planning on ordering a realook one but hey, if this gets the job done without ruining the screen quality...
Are these glossy casses and do they provide grip? Also if they are glossy wouldn't they start to get scratched up when putting them down on hard surfaces?...anyone know?
I am dying for a white one. These are the nicest cases I have seen for the vibrant thus far.
Pretty sweet I dig them too just not sure what color...hmmm white or blue...
If they would just hurry up and get these in stock...
ZombieDude00 said:
Pretty sweet I dig them too just not sure what color...hmmm white or blue...
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Im going with the "storm trooper" look myself .
Anyone got one yet? Someone post a short review of fitment. Hoping that the case fits well and stays intact unlike some other ones with similar install style.
I hope this version doesn't have a cutout for the antenna.
The pics definitely have the antenna cutout. Hopefully these are just sample pics.
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scrizz said:
Ok, I just happened to notice they finally have the Slider case for the Vibrant in The SGP Store.
Yesterday they still weren't up yet.
Remember, this is for the Vibrant and not just another i9000 case.
Here is the link:
http://www.sgpstore.com/index.php/cPath/23_29
I'm picking one up ASAP!
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Hope you can do a little review once you get it.
Those Ultra Silke silicone cases look quite nice, especially if their claims of them not being sticky/tacky are true.
these need to come out like NOW!

**pics included** Black Cruzer Case on Amazon fits GSM perfect

I got the black glossy Cruzer case from Amazon and it fits snug and tight...better than my Incipio case I purchased from the Verizon store. The case is nice and durable. The power button and 3 prongs are open and the volume keys are closed with a nice rough texture. The volume keys are very easy to use since they are sealed. I recommend this case to GSM Galaxy Nexus owners and the price is not bad at all.
I gave it a 5 star review on Amazon.
Here is a link...
Check out the other designs Cruzer has... Android print case looks pretty cool too.
***pics on post #8***
Thank you, will order some tonight.
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Looking forward to photos. This might be what ties me over until seidio releases some accessories.
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How is the fit and finish, for lack of a better term, of the case? How tightly does it fit around the face and how are the areas around the mold seam?
I'm currently using this Qubits case and while it is quite good, it is not perfect.
halo0 said:
How is the fit and finish, for lack of a better term, of the case? How tightly does it fit around the face and how are the areas around the mold seam?
I'm currently using this Qubits case and while it is quite good, it is not perfect.
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The fit and finish is great. It is not loose around the face or around the seams. Im telling you, this fits nice and tight all around the phone.
Sorry guys.... I'll get pics later today...give me about 2 hours.
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I have this case and while it fits perfectly it takes away from the look of the phone. Also makes it bulky and just not the same. I have a smoked one if someone wants it. Will sell it for $5.
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mobilehavoc said:
I have this case and while it fits perfectly it takes away from the look of the phone. Also makes it bulky and just not the same. I have a smoked one if someone wants it. Will sell it for $5.
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Bulky? Compared to naked?
All cases take away from the beautiful phone....
This case is not bulky.
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Pics uploaded.
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mobilehavoc said:
I have this case and while it fits perfectly it takes away from the look of the phone. Also makes it bulky and just not the same. I have a smoked one if someone wants it. Will sell it for $5.
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Amzer?
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Amzer?
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if its the same as this one then its a cruzer lite case
Same exact one as the OP but "smoke". If you want it, PM me.
Anyone try this on the LTE version yet? Seems like a sick case, just dont want to waste a few bucks if it doesnt fit well.
droidkevlar said:
Anyone try this on the LTE version yet? Seems like a sick case, just dont want to waste a few bucks if it doesnt fit well.
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Yes it has been tested on the lte model
joelmic said:
Yes it has been tested on the lte model
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So fits perfect? And thanks!
And one last thing. How much bulk does it actually add? I cant really tell from the pics. THanks again
droidkevlar said:
So fits perfect? And thanks!
And one last thing. How much bulk does it actually add? I cant really tell from the pics. THanks again
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Very little tpu is a thin yet strong maternal
joelmic said:
Very little tpu is a thin yet strong maternal
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Thanks. Just ordered. Will get it Wed and report back on my findings.
Thanks for the review. I just ordered this for my GSM version as well.
sn0warmy said:
Thanks for the review. I just ordered this for my GSM version as well.
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What color did you get?
Sale at Amazon on these
FYI - if you want more than one, you can get three for the price of two at Amazon - use promo code BUY2GONE. Several different colors, two different patterns.
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What color did you get?
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I got black. I didn't care too much about the color though. I only use the case when I am in route from one location to another. When I'm at home or at the office I take the case off.

Otterbox for it legit???

Found this link as I bought my $1 xtreme guard screen protectors that work just like invisible shield when I came across this..this looks like a heck of a deal if u ask me from amazon...
Google this ---> OtterBox 77-21392
Ps.. Check this link out... And check the colors... Think I might grab one...thank me if I was able to help ya out for ur new case
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I have TMobile so hopefully so
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http://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-77-21392-Commuter-Series-Packaging/dp/B0085JRQFU
Yea I saw that one and tempted to pull the plug in buying it
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CZ Eddie said:
http://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-77-21392-Commuter-Series-Packaging/dp/B0085JRQFU
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I've ordered from that seller plenty of times so its legit!!!!
ahfu25 said:
I've ordered from that seller plenty of times so its legit!!!!
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Already..!! Lol ... I thought of getting a white on white but planning on getting a blue gs3 so if any one sees the black version for buy now please post up link ..I've only seen white and pink and that camo green
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ElMeR09 said:
Already..!! Lol ... I thought of getting a white on white but planning on getting a blue gs3 so if any one sees the black version for buy now please post up link ..I've only seen white and pink and that camo green
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http://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-77-21092-Commuter-Series-Packaging/dp/B0085JRQQE/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
In stock June 22 it says.
I'm still waiting on the otterbox defender.
Randomacts said:
I'm still waiting on the otterbox defender.
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Also in stock on the 22nd:
Black Defender
More Colors
if bestbuy has cases in stock show them this link. they will price match
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If you guys are gonna grab it from Amazon, be sure that you buy it directly from Amazon, they have the best return policy around.
lol SGP is selling otterbox?
ElMeR09 said:
Found this link as I bought my $1 xtreme guard screen protectors that work just like invisible shield when I came across this..this looks like a heck of a deal if u ask me from amazon...
Google this ---> OtterBox 77-21392
Ps.. Check this link out... And check the colors... Think I might grab one...thank me if I was able to help ya out for ur new case
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why is it so cheap for a commuter case? Is it for galaxy s3?
twoashj said:
why is it so cheap for a commuter case? Is it for galaxy s3?
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Commuter is not as strongly built and doesn't have a built in screen protector like the Defender.
Commuter's usually come with a screen protector you can install though right? Mine always have.
Tazer2death said:
Commuter's usually come with a screen protector you can install though right? Mine always have.
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yea but not built in like defender
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If anybody has used a commuter case on a phone before, how does it come off for battery changes? Is it a pain to get off?
Thanks in advance!
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Commuter is not as strongly built and doesn't have a built in screen protector like the Defender.
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What I meant was it's about $35 on Otterbox website, but this amazon link is selling it at a cheaper price. it doesn't look legit without someone's reply saying he has shopped there before.
mocheesehead said:
If anybody has used a commuter case on a phone before, how does it come off for battery changes? Is it a pain to get off?
Thanks in advance!
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Pop off the plastic. Not really difficult but it is on there solid and has absolutely no chance of falling off ever. Then the rubber skin just comes right off as you would imagine a rubber skin would. Not super hard but it is a 2-step process for such a strong defensive case.
Took me all of 10 seconds to pop off the cover and the battery case on my current phone.
You can find it cheaper with free shipping from Mobilecityonline.com, $24.99. I've ordered from them before and they are reputable.
mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=30320

otterbox Defender case on sale for $24.99 until tomorrow

cheapest i've seen on this great case for galaxy s3 http://smartphonepedia.com/deal-of-the-day.html
Thanks for link just ordered Glacier color looks like they have some in stock!
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Nice find!! Thanks for sharing. Ordered one in glacier, at that price it's worth a try.
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werked said:
Nice find!! Thanks for sharing. Ordered one in glacier, at that price it's worth a try.
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How is it they have some the colors in stock when even the Otterbox website says they're not released?
osufeth said:
How is it they have some the colors in stock when even the Otterbox website says they're not released?
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Maybe they are selling the Chinese fake ones
DarkManX4lf said:
Maybe they are selling the Chinese fake ones
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That's what I was wondering, if these are real or not..
I'm relatively new to case shopping (the S3 is only the 2nd smart phone i've owned), so I don't know how common that happens or not
osufeth said:
That's what I was wondering, if these are real or not..
I'm relatively new to case shopping (the S3 is only the 2nd smart phone i've owned), so I don't know how common that happens or not
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Well I have been seeing more and more threads about fake accessories for the sgs3.
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Maybe they are selling the Chinese fake ones
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The pics on the site look real. They also did a video review of the case with drop test....there was a pic of what looked to be genuine otterbox packaging. Hoping it's the real deal....they see to be a legit site. When I ordered mine today they had no stock of the blue, purple or green....only a crapload of black and 13 (make that 12 after my order lol) of the glacier.
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Plus don't forget the 90 days return!
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Anyone bought from them before? Or found some useful reviews of the site? Only found a bunch of youtube videos by them.
I've ordered a case from Noreve already, but had an Otterbox on my HD2 and the protection was great... especially when you're drunk and likely to drop your phone :laugh:
Ok I bought myself one. Looks like it will be a cool case especially since you can use the holster as a kick stand.
DarkManX4lf said:
Ok I bought myself one. Looks like it will be a cool case especially since you can use the holster as a kick stand.
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That was a selling point for me as well. I love my ballistic sg maxx, particularly due to the less bulky holster....so it will probably be my go 2 when leaving the house. When hanging at the house I will make good use of the kickstand feature on the otter holster. My only wish would be that it could be used in portrait mode. I had an otter on my last phone and NEVER knew it had a kickstand until a few days ago. :banghead:
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Does this have a belt clip (deal breaker for me)? Also, how is the screen protector? Do you have to use it? Thanks.
Yes, it comes with a belt clip. It's a separate holster that stays on your belt and the phone clips into it. It can also be used as a kickstand if you take it off your belt and 'lock' the clip open.
If it's anything like the HD2 Otterbox the screen protector is good, but mine didn't hold up well to repeatedly removing the phone from the case, it developed blotchy parts where it was sticking right to the screen and other parts weren't. Eventually I removed the screen protector (it's not designed to be removable, so you can't put it back in if you do remove it).
dang. That is a good deal. I bought a Glacier one from Amazon yesterday for $35 I think. Im kind of nervous if the case is legit though...
This is the one I bought, anyone buy from "ITX Wireless" before?
NEVERMIND: I cant post links yet, but seller is ITX Wireless on Amazon, hopefully its real.
Thanks OP for the link! Just bought myself the Glacier to go along with my white SGS3.
Bought! Thanks, nice deal. I just happened to break my case today unfortunately...so this worked out well. Went with Glacier.
Thanks for posting this excellent deal. I've used Smartphonepedia.com recently. I ordered my Galaxy S3 Body Glover tpu case from them. It arrived extremely fast and if the case is knockoff, I honestly couldn't tell. It came in retail packaging and the product shows no signs of being 'cheap' or 'knockoff'.
I definitely did not hesitate on taking advantage of this deal. I ordered the glacier colored case and even though it's on back order, i'm perfectly fine with waiting considering the cost savings and besides my Body Glove case from this company is holding me over just fine. Thanks for this find again!
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Sweet, it looks like the glacier colored ones are back in stock this morning.
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ergibson83 said:
Sweet, it looks like the glacier colored ones are back in stock this morning.
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I guess the shipment from Republic of Mozambique are in.

waterpfoof case for the s3

I know a lot of us has been looking for a waterproof shockproof dustproof snow proof case for our s3. Lifeproof has failed to deliver same goes for with otterbox, they are taking for ever. I found one that is available in a few hours. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/enflux/agilis-series-premium-galaxy-s3-case check it out. And it is cheaper than otterbox.
100k in 52 hours yea i highly doubt it'll reach its goal. Best of luck though.
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So if you pledge $60 or more, do you get a case?
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So if you pledge $60 or more, do you get a case?
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yes you do. plus the quick klip
Just pledged my 60$. Sure hope it comes to fruition.
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they should make a water proof case for a extended battery.
I completely agree.
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this looks like an excellent case... I would buy 2 units (for me and the wife) if they made it.... they should also consider the back to be thin to be compatible with wireless charging....
The otter armor case is already out just buy that
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The otter armor case is already out just buy that
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Why just buy that? I haven't seen one in person so what makes it superior? Who has the Armor series available to purchase?
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I went to otterbox website last night and didn't see where you could purchase. All it had was a Sign Up link to be notified when available.
S3 on the Now Network
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I went to otterbox website last night and didn't see where you could purchase. All it had was a Sign Up link to be notified when available.
S3 on the Now Network
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Yep, but somehow its the best waterproof case there is.
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I have this saved in my Amazon cart but I'm afraid to buy it...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009X8J5VU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_image_6?ie=UTF8&m=A2E944XTTK6JT6
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I have this saved in my Amazon cart but I'm afraid to buy it...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009X8J5VU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_image_6?ie=UTF8&m=A2E944XTTK6JT6
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I have this case. I have not however tested the waterproofnes... Really bulky case but you can easily take the phone out because of the quick clasp mechanism.
El [email protected] said:
I have this case. I have not however tested the waterproofnes... Really bulky case but you can easily take the phone out because of the quick clasp mechanism.
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Do you feel it's worth the money?
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Do you feel it's worth the money?
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In my situation cautious yes. I work in a really dusty enviroment and I use the case only in the workplace. And I got my earlier Sony's screen broken because of no case in the workplace....
I don't use this case in my freetime. It's just too bulky to have in your pocket and phone is a little more difficult to use.
There's couple disadvantages in the case:
- you can't press the powerbutton on the rightside. It's blocked because the hinges of the case are on the right side.
- I have had problems with the voice. I need to take the phone out of the case when talking with someone because they can't hear almost at all for some reason. I have not researched do anyone else have this problem and can I do something for it
I have also a bike clip for the case. I have not tested it yet (I have some plans to use the phone as a cycling computer in the summer time).
I'm little struct between this or Griffin Survivor (I have them both). Griffin Survivor is much better in almost every way (belt clip in Griffin case is really good) if you don't need water proofness but it's much harder to put the phone to the case and take if off.
Got this case to use on my bike: http://www.topeak.com/products/bags/smartphone_drybag_5_bk
Edit: don't mind my sig, got a S3 now.
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Got this case to use on my bike: http://www.topeak.com/products/bags/smartphone_drybag_5_bk
Edit: don't mind my sig, got a S3 now.
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Would an s3 with extended battery fit in this case, im already looking for quite a while for something like this but never realy wanted to order one because i am worried that it would not fit for extended batteries
Do these waterproof cases float? If no, what kind of depths can they handle? (I assume 1m)
I'm waiting for the otter armor.

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