Hey everyone... this phone has gotten excellent reviews, and I was psyched to replace my tired Diamond with it until I saw all the problems people have been having with it (LOS, battery drain, gaming, etc.), especially considering it's Samsung. Thinking of getting a photon or 3vo instead, or just waiting it out for something better (yeah, i know it's always around the corner). But of course the people who have issues are more likely to post than those who don't. So how many of you actually haven't had major problems? Is this thing worth the risk? And does anyone know if TEP would cover this if the problems laid low until after the 14 day trial period?
No issues here. I came from the 3vo and photon, do yourself a favor and get the epic.
I have had it since launch day, no problems, in fact this phone is the only one that I have had that I haven't insta rooted... because it's just bad ass, I'm in no rush
I had no problems for 6 days till I rooted, then I had LOS 4 times the first day. Went back to stock kernel and now 2 days in no problems.
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No issues here. I came from the 3vo and photon, do yourself a favor and get the epic.
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+1 same here. Well said. Treat yourself to the best mobile experience available
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No problems yet either. haven't rooted yet but thinking about it...
No problem here...loving it..
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I have LOS issue at least once a day, but mine can be fixed by going into airplane mode and coming out of it. Don't believe all the hype, this phone DOES have issues, but it's still a great phone.
Also, I would mention check out sprint's forums and android central to get a good overall view of the connection issues on this phone. It seems Samsung has once again released a phone with buggy modem software. It will get ironed out, its just a matter of when, be it 1 month from now or 6 months from now.
Just as a personal example, I get 300-400kbps less on 3g than my girlfriend gets on her evo 4g in the same exact spot, using speedtest.net app at the same exact time. I have repeated this test multiple times at various spots in my city just to confirm.
I hate to be a naysayer, I love the phone and don't intend on returning it. But keep that in mind, you will be getting a phone that is less than perfect on day one. Once we get an actual update and ruu from Samsung, then the real Roms and Kernels will start rolling out. For now, we are just playing a waiting game it seems.
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I had no problems for 6 days till I rooted, then I had LOS 4 times the first day. Went back to stock kernel and now 2 days in no problems.
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My experience as well.... may just be coincidence, but no problems while unrooted.
I love it when people post " I was fine until I rooted and then all these problems, what's wrong with the phone." Well duh have you ever thought it was your rooting.
Have had it since day one. No real problems to speak of. Some people are just way too picky. Talk with a non-geek about the phone and there is nothing wrong, talk with a geek and there are all sorts of nit pick. Honestly some of these people are so anal it makes me wonder. The Epic 4G Touch is a great phone with a lot going for it. Had a Photon and that phone had a lot of issues that prevented it from fulfilling it's most basic purpose, to send and receive phone calls. *ugh*
Ive had this phone since day one, haven't had a single issue with it. No LOS, no gaming bugs, no force closes, nothing. Battery life is nothing short of stellar, and overall performace is pretty much without parallel in the mobile world. This is easily the best phone in the us market right now and you'll be extremely happy with it should you decide to get it. I had an EVO 3D for a month and absolutely HATED it. Get the ET4G, you won't be sorry.
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I have had the phone for 8 days now, I am impressed with the battery life, I leave it on wifi all day long at work and the phone roams with 1 bar of signal. This building is terrible as far as cell service goes. Even so, I leave work and my battery is ~ 40-50%. I usually unplug it around 4:00am and leave work at 5:30pm. I did get the no smoking circle yesterday but I was in the basement of our library, I'm pretty sure that wsa legit and my signal came back when I walked outside. This phone is running phenominal for me, it is by far the best phone I have ever owned or played with.
I went from: POS Crackberry (Curve 8320), MyTouch 3g, Samsung Moment, Evo Shift, E4GT
have the phone since day one, no problems at all. first smartphone that has no issues for me. and its fast.
Same for me. Unrooted zero issues great battery life super fast.
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No issues here since purchase on launch day. Not one single LOS, good signal strength in the areas I frequent here in San Diego, respectable 3G data speeds by Sprint standards, excellent battery life, no unexpected heat, nothing.
14 days is tomorrow, so I'm expecting the thing to completely friggin explode on Saturday. I've never had a smartphone run this well out of the box. I'm a bit floored to be honest.
Get it. I'm coming from Evo3D (Evo and NS4G before that). It it well worth it. I haven't had an issue with it at all. It is the only phone I have had that I have not felt the need to root....yet.
No issues here save for a WiFi connection that dies every now and then, but I think it's an issue with my router.
Otherwise it's by far the best phone I've ever used. It just works.
Still stock, haven't found an overwhelming reason to root.
I have to agree with everyone, i have had like 20 different phones this year and all have been rooted the day i got them except this one, its just so damn fast, but i expect that will change omce cm7 is out for it
I've yet to encounter a single problem with this phone. First time I haven't been rooted within days of buying one too. It really amazes me that I'm satisfied with a smart phone right out of the box.
This phone has worked perfectly out of the box. So well that there's almost no point in rooting or modding it. Battery, GPS, connectivity, everything...
In fact, I didn't have any issues until I rooted it and installed a modded ROM. After that random LOS after resuming from sleep. Guess what? Returning to stock eliminated that problem. So the issues people are facing are from messing around and modding things not from the hardware or the stock software.
Anyway, now I'm on the stock kernel with root access without issues and I'll probably stay this way for a while until a nice stable rom comes along
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I already ordered the phone at 12:01am friday since I was on vacation and had no stores near me. After reading some issues everyone is having, I am wonder if I should return it and wait for a new batch. The one issue that I'm really going to get ticked about is the screen being so sensitive and selecting on its own while charging. Its said to be the samsung charger is the cause of the problem. What is samsung going to do? Mail us all new chargers? Ha!
The other problem would be 3g/4g getting stuck and needing a reboot and wifi having poor signal. Silly things like the notification of when its fully charged, independent ringer/notification volume makes me feel like ill be using a new body palm centro or bb.
Maybe the Evo will stay with me for awhile longer. I feared going back to samsung and had nothing but problems with their phones.
I haven't had any problems using the phone when it's plugged in. I got my phone in Springfield MA on the first day. The battery life is great on this thing and it flies. Like I said in the battery posting area. I only lose about 3% per hour when I'm not using it and I run Skype in the back ground. Yesterday when I was sitting around watching football I was on it constantly. I was surfing and played a couple of games. I easily got 4 hours of screen on time. Still had about 18% when I plugged it in last night. Although I wasn't running Skype on it during that time.
I rooted and my Wifi range is much better than my Epic. Wifi Tether works great. I am loving it and I have no complaints either. The battery life is great too
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I am not personally having any of those issues, I bought mine at 10am on the 16th and I've had 0 issues thus far.
My wifi is terrible but only problem so far. I feel with the dev and mainstream interest on this device, updates and fixes will be out very soon. I work for a 3rd party retaer and its expected supply to be limited. I'd defintly go ahead and get one.
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Thanks for the replies so far. Being that I have an Evo4G im sure battery life on anything else is better. Just worried about the screen doing things on its own while charging.
I got this phone last Saturday. The phone is working great. The battery is much better than my HTC evo. I only have one problem is that my headset control doesn't work at all. Overall, I love this phone.
So you folks, really recommend the phone at this early stage?
I havn't used the charger that it came packaged with, I'm still using my charger from my Samsung Rant, Exclaim or Moment (I've had Samsung phones a long time except for the Evo I had since its launch), but I have had no issues with it.
Only problems I have noticed if reception seems weaker than I am used to..But I think that will be addressed in firmware updates.
Over all, FANTASTIC device.
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So you folks, really recommend the phone at this early stage?
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Yes, based on using the phone since Friday, I'd easily recommend it.
I would definitely recommend it..I walked into the Sprint store on Friday just to check it out and play with it...ended up getting it on Friday
THank you!, i went ahead and bought it full priced, since i didn't want a contracted being renewed.. at the moment love it!, im heading off to work in an hour darn it, but will report, just like everyone else , the thing that worries me the most, is not only the 4G/3G speed ect.. but mainly the GPS which was a bug from the the awesome but sad gps epic4G
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THank you!, i went ahead and bought it full priced, since i didn't want a contracted being renewed.. at the moment love it!, im heading off to work in an hour darn it, but will report, just like everyone else , the thing that worries me the most, is not only the 4G/3G speed ect.. but mainly the GPS which was a bug from the the awesome but sad gps epic4G
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Gps works good for what i need it to do alot better than the first sgs line thats for sure
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I can whole heartily recommend this device. No hesitation.
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Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing the problems.. what are ypur thoughts
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Lol, no.
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I feel the same way... I'm getting serious battery loss after flashing a few of these roms.. with stock Rom I was getting a good 20 hours moderate use.. now with custom roms I'm getting like 10 hourz... I'm In noway knocking on any devs.. I do appreciate everyones contribution... I think it's a lil still early in the galaxy development
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Mine ran great fresh out the box for sure, but thats also because it was fresh and had no apps installed etc lol.
Some roms seem to work better than others. Running Starbust 1.2 with zedo's 4.1 kernel and it's running absolutely great now, better than unrooted IMO.
Could be grass in greener on the other side syndrome, try unrooting and see if you still feel that it runs better stock. With ODIN it's pretty quick and easy to jump back from rooted to not and back again.
I will always be rooted because I love trying out new things and custom roms and overclocking/undervolting etc.. it's fun, like a hobby for sure. And sometimes that hobby especially with beta stuff isnt that stable lol!
Just having adfree and wifi tethering is more than enough reason for me to root. But when the really cool custom roms start coming out, it's gunna be on like donkey kong
I did run a rooted rom with the stock kernel, and I have to say I like zedo's better.
My 2 cents
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Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing t runninghe problems.. what are ypur thoughts
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Source?
My stock-rooted E4GT is working just fine. No LoS, no random reboots, no freezing up, no locking up... no bloat, great battery life, no BS.
I had a ton of issues with LOS and some random reboots on Zedomax's root kernel. Flashed to the stock + CMR and havent had an issue since.
I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
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I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
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I'm stock with root, and it runs smoother than when I was on oc kernel
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I agree that LOS is not caused by rooted kernal. But, I did experience LOS alot more often than stock kernal. When I got the phone I stayed unrooted for a little over a week. I experienced 2 LOS during that time period. Once I finally rooted I was experiencing LOS @ least 3 times a day. LOS also drains the battery like crazy. One night I left the phone off the charger with 100% battery life. When I woke up, the phone was in LOS and only had 40% battery life. Well, today last night I finally switched to stock kernal. So far today no LOS.
I digress. Stock rom works perfect but I needed so mods that require root. The battery percent mod, wireless tether, and roam control. I think I'll wait for an AOSP rom before I try anything different roms.
I've tried all the currently available kernals for ths phone. I've rooted and unrooted. Right now, i'm on stock rooted. I'm still experiencing LOS, but it seems less frequent than when I was on custom kernals. It could be other criteria, though. I haven't tried any of the ROMs, only because I want a stock ROM to flash, if something goes wrong. I don't remember the epic taking this long to get the stock ROM available to us. My memory may be slipping, though.
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Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
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Stop whining!
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Stop whining!
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Not really sure where you see whining. But I do see a clown who has nothing better to do that reply to my "whining". thanks for the post bump though. Now back on topic.. lets keep this sucka free please
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this is why I will wait another week or 2 before rooting....this phone is awe sum as stock, but, like any newly released phone, it takes a few weeks before all the truly revolutionary stuff gets developed.
Most devs have a real job, a family, and a real life, so you can't really expect flashing "nirvana" only a week or so after a phone comes out.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
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Same mentality here my man. It's either rooted... Overclocked.... Or supercharged. I like things over the top lol. Heck even my gas powered scooters and rc cars are souped up. Sorry.... Back on target.
Samsung Galaxy S II
I'm stock since day 1, when the phone first released, and I get LOS once a day. It's killing me not to have root, but I am not modding unless there is a factory RUU available straight from Samsung. Personally, and to no discredit to the developers, I don't trust the stock rom pulled from another phone. This phone is just a bit too new for me to be permanently altering it without a 100% safe way back. The OG Epic was made almost unbrickable, so it's reasonable to assume that a year from now, we will be rolling like pigs in **** with cool stuff to flash.
But I get what you are saying, and honestly, the community did not explode like I thought it would. Seems to be more HTC fans these days then Samsung, and just judging from Samsung's post launch support, or lack thereof, I can understand why...
Furthermore, my 3G speeds were horrible day 1 and continue to suck balls. Most times at work I can't even browse the market because of timeouts. 4G seems to work good though, and that's the only reason I haven't just returned this phone yet.
Check this thread:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76962?start=0&tstart=0
This is sprint's official forum, and they are just now admitting to the crappy radio implementation on this phone. Should have seen this coming a mile away, but honestly I was just too busy looking at this gorgeous 4.52" AMOLED+ screen to notice...
This is the first phone I've had were I don't feel the need to root, and I wouldn't have rooted until it had been perfected more.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
my main reason for rooting was a few apps i had that needed root. as well as the battery percentage
Well, I broke down and got the Epic Touch. This is my 3rd android, and so far, it's been 3/3 Sammy. Funny thing is, when owning the Moment, I swore I'd never get another Sammy. Ha! I moved on to the Epic 4G, and was actually pretty happy with that phone, except for battery life. Well, the new shiny came out (I call it my precious...) and I had an opportunity to get it, and here I sit. Man this is a nice phone! Love the battery life, but kind of miss the narrower, chunkier 4G. (I know... that's counter to everyone else... But I liked the ability to rest the phone on my shoulder while talking if I had by 3500mA battery in there)
Anyway, howdy all! Just figured I'd make my greetings here. I'm an old hand at Android phones (Lord knows I installed enough ROMS on that damned Moment) and using the wonderful mods from the devs here, and look forward to a long run of great add ons in the months and maybe even years to come!
I know the feeling. I was never a fan of Samsung phones but I now own the Epic 4g touch, and a Galaxy tab 10.1. I was strictly a HTC fan but Samsung has made me a believer...
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Even with the crappy updates im rolling with Sammy.
The Moment actually turned into a great phone once the guys over at SDX got 2.2.2 running on it. No more data lock! I'm convinced it was a kernel issue.
I'm hoping that the devs can come to the rescue again, because the ET has the same issue, only we're calling it LOS instead of data lock!
Samsung has a crappy record for updating their phones, and Sprint's updates always address things that either were never a problem, or don't actually fix the problem they claim to be fixing.
Its all about 3rd party developers, and having to void our warranties to get a working phone!
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The Moment actually turned into a great phone once the guys over at SDX got 2.2.2 running on it. No more data lock! I'm convinced it was a kernel issue.
I'm hoping that the devs can come to the rescue again, because the ET has the same issue, only we're calling it LOS instead of data lock!
Samsung has a crappy record for updating their phones, and Sprint's updates always address things that either were never a problem, or don't actually fix the problem they claim to be fixing.
Its all about 3rd party developers, and having to void our warranties to get a working phone!
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It's not the same issue. Every moment I've ever touched had the airplane mode issue. I went through over 10 at least. My first Epic Touch had the LOS issue and after getting that replaced I haven't seen it since. I go into areas of low coverage, no coverage, rooming, wifi on and off and no LOS. My moment would have done this 50 times at least under the same conditions.
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I know the feeling. I was never a fan of Samsung phones but I now own the Epic 4g touch, and a Galaxy tab 10.1. I was strictly a HTC fan but Samsung has made me a believer...
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Ditto here man. I avoided any Sammy like the plague and always liked HTC, but Sense was just getting old to me. I am loving this thing and I am not real sure that I care too much about Sammy's really wretched update history. I'll be rooting once ICS gets a stable release.
I have only had LOS once and it was at a football tailgate on over taxed towers in a really weak signal area....so I can't say is my phone or its everywhere.
Same boat. The Moment told me I'd be going somewhere else next, and then the Epic 4G hit and I was back with Samsung. But I had enough issues with it that I was convinced I'd go HTC or Motorola next. And here I am, back with Samsung, and so far glad I stuck around.
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It's not the same issue. Every moment I've ever touched had the airplane mode issue. I went through over 10 at least. My first Epic Touch had the LOS issue and after getting that replaced I haven't seen it since. I go into areas of low coverage, no coverage, rooming, wifi on and off and no LOS. My moment would have done this 50 times at least under the same conditions.
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Did you ever flash Froyo onto your Moment?
I seriously hadn't had a lockup from February until I activated my ET on 9/22... And that included traveling from Milwaukee to the middle of the woods up north, going from roam to network to roam SEVERAL times along the way.
The reason why I think its the same issue is because, like the Moment, when you get the lockup on the ET, you can then manually go INTO airplane mode, but it refuses to let you come back out again (the option is grayed out). That's exactly the way it manifested on the Moment.
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Well, I broke down and got the Epic Touch. This is my 3rd android, and so far, it's been 3/3 Sammy. Funny thing is, when owning the Moment, I swore I'd never get another Sammy. Ha! I moved on to the Epic 4G, and was actually pretty happy with that phone, except for battery life. Well, the new shiny came out (I call it my precious...) and I had an opportunity to get it, and here I sit. Man this is a nice phone! Love the battery life, but kind of miss the narrower, chunkier 4G. (I know... that's counter to everyone else... But I liked the ability to rest the phone on my shoulder while talking if I had by 3500mA battery in there)
Anyway, howdy all! Just figured I'd make my greetings here. I'm an old hand at Android phones (Lord knows I installed enough ROMS on that damned Moment) and using the wonderful mods from the devs here, and look forward to a long run of great add ons in the months and maybe even years to come!
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Same thing here, same three phones. I don't know how they keep suckering me in.
I am having doubts about this phone already though. Hopefully they will be fixed in an update. I fear the update will be too far down the road though.
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Did you ever flash Froyo onto your Moment?
I seriously hadn't had a lockup from February until I activated my ET on 9/22... And that included traveling from Milwaukee to the middle of the woods up north, going from roam to network to roam SEVERAL times along the way.
The reason why I think its the same issue is because, like the Moment, when you get the lockup on the ET, you can then manually go INTO airplane mode, but it refuses to let you come back out again (the option is grayed out). That's exactly the way it manifested on the Moment.
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I gave up the moment when the Epic was released. Back then we didn't have 2.2 for the moment. So by the time I was no longer using the device.
I understand your comparison. I only disagreed because of the nature of the error. I could force the moment into airplane mode any time that I wanted. So when I got my og epic I did everything I could do to get into airplane and succeeded a few times sadly enough, though it was much harder. When I got the epic touch my first one had the LOS. My second one refused to do it. I'm not saying it isn't possible. I just couldn't force the error like I could with the moment and with the og epic.
I'm not saying my phone doesn't have the LOS bug. I just haven't seen it. My first one did. I did the same things. I did the same things and went around the same areas and haven't seen this bug on my new device yet.
I lost my point. I just wanted to say that the LOS bug is no where near as common and at least it gives you a error that you can see when you have it. The moment will just look at you and smile and you'll go through your day wondering why nobody was calling you...
I'm right there with ya OP, my 1st Android device was the Moment, then I had the Epic 4G, then I got a Galaxy Tab 10.1, and now I have a Epic 4G Touch. I actually like Samsung for the most part, definitely not a perfect company, but I've never experienced a perfect company ever.
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I gave up the moment when the Epic was released. Back then we didn't have 2.2 for the moment. So by the time I was no longer using the device.
I understand your comparison. I only disagreed because of the nature of the error. I could force the moment into airplane mode any time that I wanted. So when I got my og epic I did everything I could do to get into airplane and succeeded a few times sadly enough, though it was much harder. When I got the epic touch my first one had the LOS. My second one refused to do it. I'm not saying it isn't possible. I just couldn't force the error like I could with the moment and with the og epic.
I'm not saying my phone doesn't have the LOS bug. I just haven't seen it. My first one did. I did the same things. I did the same things and went around the same areas and haven't seen this bug on my new device yet.
I lost my point. I just wanted to say that the LOS bug is no where near as common and at least it gives you a error that you can see when you have it. The moment will just look at you and smile and you'll go through your day wondering why nobody was calling you...
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Unfortunately, I got my moment about 1 month before they discontinued it, so I was stuck with it longer than a lot of folks.
I've been fortunate, and only encountered the problem twice so far with the ET. I'll be traveling up north this weekend, and we'll see how it goes. If I'm unable to get data (where I always could with the lowly Moment), there will be some words exchanged with Sprint.
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I know the feeling. I was never a fan of Samsung phones but I now own the Epic 4g touch, and a Galaxy tab 10.1. I was strictly a HTC fan but Samsung has made me a believer...
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The same exact thing happened to me!
Also, I was talking to a Samsung rep, and he said there are some "really cool things" coming that you will be able to do between your Samsung phone and your tablet.
I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
try it, you can always return it. i've never once got LOS. 3g sucks but that's sprint's network, not the phone. my battery life is really good. the phone takes forever to charge but i don't have any weird draining issues like some people.
sometimes i think xda has a tendancy to blow things out of proportion. i'd say give it a try, if it sucks you can exchange it and swap it out or go back to your evo.
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I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
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No one can tell you what phone to get.
Here's some comments on your concerns:
1) The LoStkernel from chris41g almost completely eliminates LOS.
2) Slow 3g speeds are coming to an end with Sprint Network Vision
3) Battery life seems to be phone dependent. Some get great life, I for one get crappy life. As AOSP ROMs come out I have a feeling the battery issues will be resolved.
4) With AOSP, ICS will for sure come to this device. No question. No debate.
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I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
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LOS = n/a: When I use a stock kernel; I had two instances when I didn't. Which is why I use stock now.
Slow 3G speeds = they are all about the same - 1.1-1.6Mbps. Was about the same on Evo 3D recently.
Battery = best battery ever. Twice battery of Evo 3D and Evo4G.
OP its a tiny % that have all these issues. Odds say you will ne fine my brother. Its a good phone.
I brought up the 3G speeds not because of Sprints network, but because some people said there were issues where they would get CRAPPY speeds on this device, and test on say an EVO, and get amazing speeds. Reminded me of when the Nexus S 4G came out, and had reception issues (particularly with 4G), so thats where my concern was. I figured im just going to go ahead and pick it up!
Woot! Lol
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the only thing i HATE about this phone is the battery life. But like others have said, I'm just one of the few. The battery just drains like crazy, losing 12%/hr over night. It's insane. I'll be rooting it in a few days but that' hasn't been a verified fix. And i'm too cheap to get a replacement (refurb) from Sprint for $35 lol.
just remember, people with the problems are going to be the most prominent and loudest.
how often will someone make a post like " my phone is great, absolutely nothing to complain about!"?
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just remember, people with the problems are going to be the most prominent and loudest.
how often will someone make a post like " my phone is great, absolutely nothing to complain about!"?
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+1 I couldn't agree more
All i have to say "get this beast"!!
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this phone is the best android phone out right now. if you can wait a month im sure we will hear about something better coming around the corner. i would recommend this phone, it isnt perfect but its still great.
Best phone out if u can't wait for the galaxy nexus.i love mines
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I'd say if you had Sprint, this is argubaly th best phone you can get. Those problems aren't a big deal and you won't find another phone without problems. These problems you say are really things that will be fixed in prob 3 months?
So best buy would be the best bet? Even if the upgrade is on a total different account? I just dont want to lose the discount on the phone!
Mines worked great until I rooted it. I went from never having LoS to random LoS
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Both of mine LOS'd from the get go. In fact the First one LOS'd on the way home from the Sprint store. It's a really fast, really pretty phone....If Sam/Sprint give it a little love it would be the best phone they have. Until then, I wouldn't recommend this phone.
Rooted phone does not cause the LOS!! Rooted phone just makes u to access more stuffs with ur phone than unrooted phone.
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Rooted phone does not cause the LOS!! Rooted phone just makes u to access more stuffs with ur phone than unrooted phone.
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And honestly if Rooting your phone did cause LOS's that would be just another reason not to buy it.
I got 3 of epic touchs none of them los but i know one thing for sure is not the rooting. I like this phone alot
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I burned through my extended battery in 2 1/2 hours today, and 4g drops were ridiculous. I finally called tech support, and they told me to exchange for a new one. So, I got my second one, still getting 4g drops. My wifes Thunderbolt (my old phone) holds 4g full strenght in my house all day. I am highly disappointed in this phone. If Rezound gets s-off by January 15, I may be switching. It sucks, because I really like this phone other than the signal.
Also, when I talked to tech support, she said there is an update coming in March, which I also read elsewhere on these forums. Why would they wait until March, seems kind of wierd.
I always read about people complaining about this phone. I have this to say to you:
If you don't like it get another phone.
I'm sure there are plenty or Rezounds out there for you.
Haven't you guys read that the LTE network has been on the fritz?
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Cool story bro.
Sounds like an issue with the LTE tower near you. My reception has been great. I'm at 14 hours and I still have 19% left...barely had it 24 hours. If you have multiple phones wigging out, there are two possibilities:
1) The User
2) The Network
Let me guess, you restored all of your titanium backups and/or restored from Google Servers?
Here's another thought. Did you get a new 4G Sim card or did they just pop the old one into the new phone? Ta-Da.
Omg so many Verizon-noobs complaining, of course it has bad battery, it's LTE...
By the way i dont believe you in going from 100% to 0% in 2 and a half hours with two different batteries, unless you are dumb and has screen on 100% etc. If, however, you are serious, call Verizon or something.
Actually, half you guys are arrogant assholes. No, I installed everything fresh, my f*%$ing Titanium files wouldn't transfer from old Nexus back to my computer without hanging up. Yes, I have a high-end computer with no issues, yes the samsung drivers are installed, MTP sucks. Yes, I owned a TB since day one and never had 4g reception issues in my house. No, there are not tower issues, I know how to troubleshoot. I get 10mbs down on both this phone and the TB, except the TB doesn't lose its 4g signal. And yes, I got a new SIM card with my new Nexus.
Plus, I work downtown on the 33rd floor, and my TB held a 4g signal most anywhere in my office, even in the ****ter in the middle of the floor. My Nexus, burned through the battery twice in 8 hours and was in 3g half the day. But, I guess it's user error. It's clear as day there are issues with reception, it's just can you tolerate it.
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Omg so many Verizon-noobs complaining, of course it has bad battery, it's LTE...
By the way i dont believe you in going from 100% to 0% in 2 and a half hours with two different batteries, unless you are dumb and has screen on 100% etc. If, however, you are serious, call Verizon or something.
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No one said I burned through 2 batteries, I said I burned through an extended battery in 2 1/2 hours, screen is on auto, and you are an arrogant prick also. Do you assume everyone is dumb because they have issues with their phone? Also, I have been on 4g since day 1 with the Thunderbolt, I know where f##$ I get 4g and where I don't.
I had a little over 12hrs 36min with minimal usage in an area with known bad signal and had 21% left today, go figure i guess. Granted I only used my phone during my breaks and lunch. Still good for being connected to LTE all day imho. Im happy with the results I've had and I am totally realistic with battery life with an LTE phone, so much so i bought the extra battery+charger. If i happen to be in an area when I know I won't have the option to charge my phone, i swap the battery and have near full charge. It's awesome.
Software issue. Go cry to VZW please.
Yaaaaawn. User err... ogance.
Crazy world, ay?
You guys really are being dicks.
First off, it's clearly not the distance from the 4G tower because the thunderbolt is working just fine.
Second... the guy posts here saying he's had trouble with his second device. And being that an older device is working just fine he's looking for some answers. He's not trying to craptalk the device, but looking to see if anyone else has had the same trouble. That way in can gauge if he should attempt to get a third replacement, or swap out the phone for another device... or maybe someone figured out an issue with a specific ROM or discovered a radio that fixed his issue.
Instead he gets you Trollolols that are being complete dorks by telling him to switch to rezound or cry to VZW.
If you have nothing substantial or beneficial to say to his predicament, why is it so hard to just to stfu and move along?
Take that crap to androidforums.com where it belongs.
To the OP... have you attempted a different radio? Here's an article on it.
http://androidcommunity.com/leaked-...alaxy-nexus-improve-signal-slightly-20111221/
And you can try here to download some.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12864-ra...ge__hl__+galaxy++nexus++radios__fromsearch__1
Gall0ws, thanks for the links, and support. I actually flashed the new radios on my last nexus, didn't get much of an improvement. The TB is between 75 - 85 dbm in my house, and the Nexus (including the new one), is typically between 95 - 115. I don't even care about the reading, because when I have 4g, it's fast. It's the drop outs to 3g that suck. Also, going to monitor this device for a few days before I flash the new radios, so I can really say if they made a difference. This just sucks, I was really hoping for an improvement over the Tbolt.
kwkslvr, I will take the screenshot, then punch it in your face. Do you think I am exaggerrating? Do you think I felt like taking all the **** off my phone, reflash everything back to stock and relock it, then waste an hour at Verizon, then reroot and put all my **** back on, I have no time for that. My thunderbolt is the original day one issue by the way, I don't exchange things for no reason. I don't use Titanium for anything other than restoring certain apps that I have that are no longer in market, no data.
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I burned through my extended battery in 2 1/2 hours today, and 4g drops were ridiculous. I finally called tech support, and they told me to exchange for a new one. So, I got my second one, still getting 4g drops. My wifes Thunderbolt (my old phone) holds 4g full strenght in my house all day. I am highly disappointed in this phone. If Rezound gets s-off by January 15, I may be switching. It sucks, because I really like this phone other than the signal.
Also, when I talked to tech support, she said there is an update coming in March, which I also read elsewhere on these forums. Why would they wait until March, seems kind of wierd.
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I haven't had problems with my GN, but I did find these two articles interesting regarding the whole 4G problems w/ some GN owners. I'm sure it isn't any condolence but...
1.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...accurate-than-others-there-may-be-no-problem/
2.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...gnal-indicator-to-better-match-other-devices/
What I find most disturbing is VZW "fix" for this is to just change/ fake what the signal actually is at and they aren't stating if the GN is correct or incorrect?!?! lol
By the way, when I got approval from Tech to exchange my device, she said there was an update coming in March in regards to the signal display issues, seems odd they would wait til March for an update. Just repeating what she said, nothing more.
Here is a speedtest with my signal strength, speeds are fine, and I am reading 101 dbm.
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I haven't had problems with my GN, but I did find these two articles interesting regarding the whole 4G problems w/ some GN owners. I'm sure it isn't any condolence but...
1.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...accurate-than-others-there-may-be-no-problem/
2.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...gnal-indicator-to-better-match-other-devices/
What I find most disturbing is VZW "fix" for this is to just change/ fake what the signal actually is at and they aren't stating if the GN is correct or incorrect?!?! lol
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The fix might not be simply falsifying any data but perhaps correcting an issue where the software is improperly calculating it. Which of course could lead to a lot of other issues such as excessive power drain because the phone thinks it needs to increase the power to the antenna instead of leaving it alone or reducing it.
For anyone having an issue with their signal, just keep a close eye on the radio threads. As soon as a new one gets leaked, they'll post it up and you can try it out.
And it can take a while, for example, my thunderbolt didn't have a good radio until on that was leaked Fall of this year. There is no rhyme or reason to it. some radios work better for some and not so good for others.
Obviously, if the phone isn't usable for his area, march is a long time to wait for an official update for verizon. But typically this stuff gets leaked out before an official push anyway.
Anywho, JC. Thanks for the links.
No major problems here
I've been running my phone for 2 days here without any significant battery issues; at least none more that I expected based on battery size and playing time. I've ordered the extended battery for insurance, but I fully expect that to do what I need. My only complaint at this point is signal strength vs. other VZ phones I've seen sitting right next to me. I have being disappointed here, am I alone?
Feel free to take a swing, but I don't think it'll fix your GN. I'll be awaiting the screen shot.
The AnandTech article is completely correct. I experienced a similar thing with my iPhone back in the day. This is a GOOGLE phone with as little Verizon interference as possible. Carriers want their users to think that they have GREAT reception everywhere they go. Those numbers are typically fudged, it's nothing new, I promise. As far as 4G drop off to 3G goes, most LTE phones suffer from this. Your T-Bolt is an older device. I'm sure you can't possibly have forgotten the number of LTE-related issues that device was plagued with early on. I remember a buddy of mine returning his because as cool as 4G was, 10% battery drain an hour on LTE while sleeping was just plain unacceptable. The Bionic has had issues. Most likely ALL VZW LTE phones are going to initially have issues the way that LTE and CDMA are basically taped together with very non-sticky painters tape.
I've seen connectivity issues with my MiFi related to specific locations that I'm in (I'm a heavy traveler with work). Any "fix" will be purely for display purposes. The day that release hits will be the day I'll be on XDA trying to research how block the update notification. The GN is currently displaying true and accurate reception strength and I'm sure it's driving Verizon up the friggin wall.
Ok, I'll stop giving everyone a hard time. But really, if the device sucks in your area, I'd return it and wait for a fix. In all seriousness, as you now confirmed from flashing modems, no modem is gonna make THAT big of a difference overall. Constructively, I'd wipe the device, log in with my Google Account, install zero apps, and see what it does. If my battery life sucked, I'd take it to the Verizon store and ask for a new battery. If that battery sucked (like draining dead 3 hours in sleep mode) I'd take the device back and exchange it.
It's not that I'm calling you a liar, it's that typically that kind of behavior is faulty hardware. Having it twice in a row is abnormal. In all fairness, my first iPhone had a bad battery and died in 2 hours (permanently). My second iPhone would overheat and lock up. My third iPhone was "fine" other than the fact that it was an iPhone.
Did it leave a bad taste in my mouth? Yeah, sure, but I still accept the fact that it was a weird chain of events and that the vast majority are perfectly fine. What I'm saying, nicely, is that both your first and your second device are not normal. It's not Google's, Verizon's or Samsung's fault...well, Samsung's for putting together a few bad units, but you know what I mean.
Haven't said 2nd device has bad battery life, just 4g drops. Hoping battery life will be better on this one.
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I definitely think something is wrong with battery life. I bought the extended battery and my phone is at 20% in 4 hours with screen brightness at zero and light texting and a lil fb. I feel like the regular battery lasted longer than the extended one I might test that next.
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