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Internal Storage

This is my first Android Phone without an SD card slot (Had Samsung Galaxy, Thunderbolt and Bionic before). Trying to understand. Is the Internal Storage a physical storage medium like you find in the iPhone or is it an internal SD card? Some people talk about virtual SD drive and partitioning. Am I able to partition the internal storage so that part of it will work like an external SD card and does not get erased with ROM upgrades? Thanks

GermanGuy said:
This is my first Android Phone without an SD card slot (Had Samsung Galaxy, Thunderbolt and Bionic before). Trying to understand. Is the Internal Storage a physical storage medium like you find in the iPhone or is it an internal SD card? Some people talk about virtual SD drive and partitioning. Am I able to partition the internal storage so that part of it will work like an external SD card and does not get erased with ROM upgrades? Thanks
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the internal memory is a nand chip, it's much better than having a microsd card like the HD7 and mozart, as it runs much faster, and less error.
but not too sure about partitioning it, as you only get about just over 13GB users memory.

Errr....Where's the Internal Storage?

So if I'm not mistaken, this phone is suppose to come with a 4GB internal storage n a 16GB (or 14.something something GB in reality)MicroSD card. Ok, I get that much, but, where is that 4GB internal storage? I checked in the Storage section and all I see is the 16GB SD card and 1.89GB free space under Internal Storage. If that 1.89GB is the only space left from the 4GB, what the hell is occupying the other 2GB of space? It can't be the OS (I'm very sure that's on a different chip/ram/etc) and whatever it is, I'm not seeing them on the phone (since the HD videos were even deleted when I format the SD card). So what is in here?
Also, Unlike on the Atrix, it seems you can't unmount the internal storage and view them on the computer under mass storage. In the atrix, when I connect the phone to the PC, I get 2 removable drives pop up, one the microSD and the other is called MB860, which is the internal storage of the phone.....So why can't we do the same thing on this phone? Is there something hidden in there? And if it's locked, that means LG lied about having 20GB of storage available on the phone, while it's only 16GB.

According to the official datasheet for the phone (click here) on page 2 under specifications it states that the phone has 4gb internal storage but only 1.91 gb is usable for apps (which is why on your phone it only shows ~1.9 gb available in info).

gte460z said:
According to the official datasheet for the phone (click here) on page 2 under specifications it states that the phone has 4gb internal storage but only 1.91 gb is usable for apps (which is why on your phone it only shows ~1.9 gb available in info).
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Awww!! That is BS!! So now I actually need to get a 32GB even if that 20GB would have sufficed -__-

gte460z said:
According to the official datasheet for the phone on page 2 under specifications it states that the phone has 4gb internal storage but only 1.91 gb is usable for apps (which is why on your phone it only shows ~1.9 gb available in info).
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if that is for apps then tell me why i cant download anything from the market with out my sdcard mounted

tokie_ said:
if that is for apps then tell me why i cant download anything from the market with out my sdcard mounted
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That leftover space on the internal storage is for apps, specifically for apps that only works or works better in the internal storage over ext. sd card. I just restored all my apps for TiBu, and the apps that go into the internal storage end up in there , and those that go into the sd card end up in my sd card.
Now I only have 845MB of space left on the internal storage, which is not much at all, albeit it is sufficient for several hundred for apps, but still it's very little.

i say once we find a way to get CFW on the phone then we might be able to access it

Let's also remember that the Nitro HD has the 2GB of storage available, while the Optimus LTE only has 1GB.

LiViD said:
Let's also remember that the Nitro HD has the 2GB of storage available, while the Optimus LTE only has 1GB.
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are you talking about it's ROM storage capacity? (I don't what exactly it is called lol)

Application storage.

Suggestion! on memory issue

hi dev, is it possible to merge internal memory and sdcard memory into 1 partition? Or by using emmc method to swap sdcard with external flash but use the sdcard 2gb as a swap space for android system which possible speeding up SGW since i notice SGW has very limited ram memory to play around with 384mb.

Actually I've been meaning to discuss that with Arco but I don't think it's possible.
Our phone has 512RAM but about 200MB are always reserved for the android system, and the 384MB left are for us. However I can never seem to have more than 191MB.

if i'm not wrong the 200mb was reserved for the dalvik machine. i'm still new so everything is guessing. please correct me if i'm wrong. I'm trying to learn and hopefuly can contribute to the community too. cheers

From what I understand, they are 3 separate devices, with different capacity. Maybe we can mount them to different path? Before using the decades swap, I was using an application called directory bind created by a member of xda. Basically it automates the mount -o bind command. I have no idea what to use the internal memory for.
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I think the internal mem is for the apps we download , please correct me if i'm wrong , cheers

DarthJonathan said:
I think the internal mem is for the apps we download , please correct me if i'm wrong , cheers
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SGW hardware is build with 512MB RAM. 4gb internal memory which work just like ordinary computer hard-drive however samsung did a partition on this 4gb internal memory and it become 1gb internal and 2gb sdcard the other 700mb was for the rom. For the microsd we slot in will become external memory. if we do the swap thingy script as mention by adlihebat above it will change the 2gb sdcard to external memory and the microsd to sdcard. So my question is, is it posible for the dev to merge the 2gb sdcard back to the internal memery. or they can make use of this 2gb as swap space for the android system. because SGW is really lag of ram maybe by doing this will help SGW gain some performance.

Used to have a great app Link2SD when I was on Froyo which used to move dalvik cache, lib and .apk files to external SD but doesn't work on Gingerbread unfortunately.

arusage said:
SGW hardware is build with 512MB RAM. 4gb internal memory which work just like ordinary computer hard-drive however samsung did a partition on this 4gb internal memory and it become 1gb internal and 2gb sdcard the other 700mb was for the rom. For the microsd we slot in will become external memory. if we do the swap thingy script as mention by adlihebat above it will change the 2gb sdcard to external memory and the microsd to sdcard. So my question is, is it posible for the dev to merge the 2gb sdcard back to the internal memery. or they can make use of this 2gb as swap space for the android system. because SGW is really lag of ram maybe by doing this will help SGW gain some performance.
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Sounds feasible, i think in theory this need to be done in recovery mode. Modify the partition table as we want it. But need a new rom that will recognize/take advantage of the new partitions. I wish i have time to do all this.
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[Q] Question about SDcard and Internal Partitions.

Hi Guys,
After using an Motorla Atrix 4G for some time I purchased a Note 2. Been using it for a few days now I have a question.
My Atrix had a 2gb partition for apps. The remaining space was mounted as sd-card and external cards as sdcard-ext.
Is it possible to create this for the Note 2 as well? Or are we stuck with the current layout (expect for the SD card mount change trick.)
Thx in advance

Morgenavond said:
Hi Guys,
After using an Motorla Atrix 4G for some time I purchased a Note 2. Been using it for a few days now I have a question.
My Atrix had a 2gb partition for apps. The remaining space was mounted as sd-card and external cards as sdcard-ext.
Is it possible to create this for the Note 2 as well? Or are we stuck with the current layout (expect for the SD card mount change trick.)
Thx in advance
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whats wrong with the current layout?
i find the current layout to be much better. on the 2gb partition layout on my atrix 4g and my note 1, i was constantly bombarded with out of space error messages. by unifying the partitions into one storage partition, we can now install 16gb worth of apps instead of 2gb worth of apps without having to mess with apps2sd, which means its a lot harder to hit the out of space error message.

Hi,
The thing is I have installed a few (large) games and some apps and allready I am almost out of diskspace. My thoughts would be to mount the internal memory indeed as one big partition but as an "apps" partition so the sdcard can be mounted as "sdcard" and store big files.
Just so that all the storage can work as intended.

Morgenavond said:
Hi,
The thing is I have installed a few (large) games and some apps and allready I am almost out of diskspace. My thoughts would be to mount the internal memory indeed as one big partition but as an "apps" partition so the sdcard can be mounted as "sdcard" and store big files.
Just so that all the storage can work as intended.
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if you look around on these forums (may not be note 2 specific, may also be in s3 forums), there are a few mods going around. One involves kinda linking your SD card as a folder in the internal memory, the other involves swapping your SD card and internal memory around (allowing up to 128gb as your main partition), i think the latter one might help you.

Hi thx for the reply but that not what I am after. When changing the mount from the external card to the internal memory path u do indeed get hoops of storage but u will sacrifice the internal memory.
The one-x for example also uses a 2gb data partition for app storage and the rest is data partition for (mounted as SDCARD) storing app and game data.
My idea is to change the internal memory of the Note2 to a data partition and the external memory (sdcard) to a proper sd-card mount.
Is this possible?

Change SD Memory internal storage

Hello everyone, you see I bought an SD 32GB
I want to know if there is a way to use as a primary this card and not the internal memory of the phone, not only want to save the photos, videos, music and that's in the options it brings to change the storage location, what I want is practically unusable leave 5 or 6GB approximate giving the 8GB internal that has to be used, perhaps unusable is not the right word because it sounds like that is damaged or something, but it is not the case
Practically what I want is that everything, absolutely all the information found in the internal memory, change to SD and automatically this as the main stay, to save all kinds of things
I want to split if the SD memory is possible 15/15 or 20/10 GB, for use as internal memory and SD card, so that when you look in the phone information displayed instead of 6GB, this amount as internal memory
Having explained this I think should understand why use the word "useless" because practically 6GB memory brings the phone would no longer be used, everything would be stored in memory SD
I have a Redmi 1S
I'm using the latest Rom V7 China
I think you get to read something like this was possible in Redmi 1, but if I remember one of the cons of doing so was that he should spend a minute after ignition to take effect, which means that if for any reason you should save or something came in that moment the phone memory usage would be 6GB, and not the SD, which I want to avoid at all times if possible in the Redmi 1S
If anyone can help me, I appreciate it!
Please accept my apology for any grammatical errors in advance since English is not my first language

cm 13 has the option to make external sd to be used as internal sd and the rom will format your external sd so make backup if need to, and 2 partition is possible android mm will automatically mount your second partition as removable storage aka external storage. you may need a very fast sdcard. dont blame me if it not work for you since i dont try it myself

antr34 said:
cm 13 has the option to make external sd to be used as internal sd and the rom will format your external sd so make backup if need to, and 2 partition is possible android mm will automatically mount your second partition as removable storage aka external storage. you may need a very fast sdcard. dont blame me if it not work for you since i dont try it myself
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I have a "Samsung 32GB EVO Class 10 Micro SDHC up to 48MB/s " SD Card you think that this is good memory?
automatically cm13 make all this for me? I don't have to do nothing? Only selecting the option to use the sd card memory as internal storage and the true internal storage not be available?

Ronny_Bryant said:
I have a "Samsung 32GB EVO Class 10 Micro SDHC up to 48MB/s " SD Card you think that this is good memory?
automatically cm13 make all this for me? I don't have to do nothing? Only selecting the option to use the sd card memory as internal storage and the true internal storage not be available?
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if you want 2 partitions you better partition the sdcard 1st on your pc, its up to you which size. the rom will ask what you want u want to do with the sdcard (it will mount 2 partition if u have 2 partitions). since i dont try it myself you better heading to cm13 thread