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Atrix Mugen 4800Mah Review (56k/dail up death)

Please let me say, I failed english. Probably all that time I skipped english probably would have served me well....Had I attended, so be gentle on this guy. If this made you laugh, lol, "wow", that's neat, but if this helped you in anyway toss a thank post my way.
Hi it's been approximately 2 weeks since I received this battery. I can mostly say great things about this battery. Lets take a look at this monster, before I can say battery stats this, battery stats that.
I often Google how the extended batteries are "huge". I've SEEN extended batteries, none like Mugen though. Most of them are bigger, this thing really uses the word "Extended". First thoughts make me feel like this makes the phone x2 the original thickness. it feels hefty in the hand, and this makes for a constant reminder that the phone is in your pocket. I cant forget that this brick is in my pocket, but it makes it all that much more dramatic when it hits the concrete.....
I can say now having this battery installed on my phone is more than just extra juice, it makes for extra grip with this large backing. I'm sure a lot of people probably don't have extended batteries, so I'll just side-by-side a series of pictures so you can see.... how big it is.
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Now that you see what it looks like, I'll give you my apparent opinion, its big... and there's more to that than just being big! (Or at least with "our" phones.)
This phone has one of the only biometric scanners that I know of, but it becomes somewhat a hassle with Motorola's choice battery location. Its not something I fret about, considering I don't use the finger scanner. I have tried it with this battery, it makes it awkward to use but not impossible.
Docks, another thing this phone was craftily shelved as. The phone with the @ss loads of docks, more than others, non with this battery will it fit... All of these normal Motorola docks are 'ment for the phone with the stock battery. When you want to dock the phone often, you pretty-much need to keep the stock battery and its back plate.
Cases as we know it are plenty and many far from few with this phone. I've seen more than a dozen cases with this phone. But I have yet to see a battery this "great", there is the problem. None of cases will fit with the Mugen battery! But this isn't a problem with me, I often battery pull from rom flashing anyways.
Lets get to the battery stats, and how it plays with a couple ROMS!... But 1 problem remains, I cannot get the android OS to condition the stats into it. So it majorically says 1% of the poor battery's life. With the extended battery, dont trust all of the OS stats, they dont depict full time ORRR accurate time.
CM7-Beta, Faux 1.3Ghz.
With my current setup on the OEM battery.
On Battery 9Hr:45Min
Voice calls 56% 3Hr:57Min
Phone Idle 18% 8Hr:57Min
Display: 16% 55Min
Mobi.mgeek.tunnybrowser 4% CPU/Total 42Min/9Min
Cell Standby 9Hr:42Min
CM7-Beta, Faux 1.3Ghz. (Mugen 4800Mah)
This setup like before but only the mugen battery changed here. The battery life off this battery makes it so I can shoot higher than 50+ hours, with my current use time. Calibration of the battery is not as easy as "Battery Calibration" when I used, it only shows 1% for most the time.... I could have sworn after this, I get better battery yet as I have tried this method.
Charge, turn off, pull battery, charge, pull battery, charge, untill the battery is surely full. Now from 4.206v down to 3.615v as we talk im currently trying to charge while on from 3.600~ maybe getting correct battery stats.
On Battery 59Hour~ (aprx, hard without OS giving correct stats.)
Voice Calls 44% 6Hr:43Min
Phone Idle 22% 22Hr:8Min
Display 20% 2Hr:33Min
Cell Standby 5% 1Day:1Hr:41Min
There was a screen shot for 57hours unplugged, but it continued till 59hours and shut off. It still does the 1% stats. from full battery, wipe stats, till here.
Later I want to try Froyo based roms, and see if I can break these records. (on froyo I got 6+hours of talk time, with bluetooth.) that's pretty good IMO. Mainly, just so I can see for myself.
Now for my conclusion....?
The phone is great on battery, if you let it. The battery gives more than double life! I like it, and all of it's size battery, and capacity! It just might be easier to give pros/cons.
Pros:
Lots of battery life, more than double
No annoying battery swapping
Size/Weight to those who like it
Cons:
Size/Weight to those who hate it.
Finger scanner hard to access
cases no longer fit it
I love this battery, and it's completely replaced all my oem batteries. No longer shall I battery swap. Besides how can you work a weekend or more and not use a charger.... Whilst usage like mine or better? You cant, only with Mugen's battery! You need one, more than need, you want one! I'll update with calibrated stats, vs max charge and drain to 1%-0%?

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Ill compare stats vs OEM and this battery (Calibrated) But I'll try this with running netflix as a constant. Be patient, wont be long from now.

lol mother of god.. it's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's...

That thing is ****ing huge, lol.

This could come in handy for long road trips. Does it come with an external charger?
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Mugen battery, my review
Eddie Bombay said:
lol mother of god.. it's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's...
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Awesome? Yes!
rdubyah said:
That thing is ****ing huge, lol.
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Well what do you think? 4800Mah, doesn't that SOUND huge?
s1mpd1ddy said:
This could come in handy for long road trips. Does it come with an external charger?
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No but I'd suggest
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BH5X-Batter...376966?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a65952786
And for those who wanna know, ebay batteries are (from china) are garbage. I've owned alot of them, they lose capacity quickly and become buggy.
And if you dont believe me, try this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Atrix-4G...408011?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3368ab978b
I bet for less than 5 months of swapping batteries, and when their back plates break... Less capacity, and then become nothing more than mere paper weights, (should they not explode) cruddy batteries. Remember, cheap batteries off eBay are usually not rated for their "quoted" Mah! My 2800Mah battery from eBay lasted almost twice as long for about 1-2 weeks. Then no longer, about equal to original after a month. (And I purchased 4 of them) and 2 of them I had to return 2 of them because they DID NOT CHARGE. Now if you were planning eBay batteries, and wanted to make sure you had a weekend away from the charger, don't rely on eBay batteries from Chinese outfits making 90% profit off their less than 1$ production/labor costs.

Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Care to share?

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Yer, that's about the life of my stock battery too, though for hiking trips etc imagine the uptime I'd get with an extended one (-:

This 4800mah seems to be the perfect battery for all the problems I was facing with the original motorola battery. But after seeing an youtube video and some images about it...whoooowww!!! This battery is really large. The Atrix becomes a really large and heavy phone.
Because of that, this is really not a good battery for daily use. I think it could be a good solution if you are going camping without electricity nearby for a whole weekend and then you need an extra battery. Otherwise i think it is really not a good solution.
My choice was this pack: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220799408011?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
I'll keep using my original motorola battery and if needed I still have 2 x 3500 mah batteries (they also need special cover) plus a battery charger. They are smaller than 4800mha but even though larger than the original one. The price was really good and I'm totally satisfied with it.

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Well when you see those battery stats, whats your talk time? It looked like you idled forever, and what rom/kernel/etc are you running. That would makes a big difference, Froyo(stock) vs alien faux 1.3 can differ battery greatly.

Ciloteille said:
Well when you see those battery stats, whats your talk time? It looked like you idled forever, and what rom/kernel/etc are you running. That would makes a big difference, Froyo(stock) vs alien faux 1.3 can differ battery greatly.
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Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha thats huge

Will it fit in the car dock with this battery? just kidding - I think I know the answer to that!

Reference to the 3500mAh batteries, I bought one just like that from Deals Extreme, after a few charge cycles it gave me a consistent uptime of a bit less than the stock battery, for the price they are good spare batteries, but having to put a large back cover on for less performance than a stock battery really sucks for everyday life, I'd spend the extra to get another stock battery if you need one for everyday.
As for battery life, I'm running stock ROM, just rooted, search around this forum, lots of threads about getting 2-3x the uptime from a stock battery.

jgc121 said:
Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Not bad at all! What settings/rom are you using? I would love to get that much out of my battery as well.

jgc121 said:
Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Alot of my phone usage is random webbing and I use dolphin browser for full desktop loading.
I love this compared to own battery. But ill flash a stock rom.and try this

What is the point man that thing is ugly!
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man, and i though i was going to see a battery with vtec yo!!
lol sorry, i saw mugen and honda came to mind. that thing is like retro. turns ur dual core monster into a saved by the bell gray phone monster. funny how both phones are motorolas. :S

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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jgc121 said:
Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Near full of GSM coverage and just few hours of screen on ("Screen on" is near always OFF) is not what you have wrote us.
- A lot of texting with Screen off? You are God!
- 45min of watching video on netflix with Screen off? You are more than God!
- three hours of race game with Screen off?.......
Summary: (theorical) 3 hours of talk (much of GSM), 45 min videos (sound+screen), 3 hours of game (sound+screen), 1 hour (total) of texting over 3 days (GSM+display): 5 hours of "Screen ON" over 72 hours are more then you 3-4% if you try to sum the "ticks" of "Screen on".
Theorically every 10-12 hours the battery is automatically drained of about 10% even if the phone is in Airplane mode and with 200Mhz of clock (with SetCPU), so in 72 hours the battery should be less then 50% (I suppose 30%) even in Airplane mode.
You screenshot is fake.

[BATTERY REVIEW]Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh Lithium Ion "Fat Phone"

Just checking the post box and lo and behold my Cameron sino 2200 MAh battery had finally arrived from England.
It looks like the real deal but only testing will tell.
I purchased in from this Ebay shop.
They delivered it via Royal Postal Service and considering it is the Christmas season it took 14 days instead of the usual 8. Not bad.
The battery and shipping cost me around $22.00 US.
It's charging right now on my universal charger so I still have the use of my phone but I did take some initial photos of the difference in the case size, battery, etc, to post.
My initial response was...whoa! Big! It's exactly twice the depth of the OEM battery.
The back case of of a smoother plastic and not as "grippy" as the original. It's well made and fits perfectly.
The battery itself it a surprisingly tight fit. At first I thought I had gotten the wrong size but it finally popped into place and sits snug in the case.
In hand it feels different of course. Only with some use will I be able to really tell if it's a benefit or a detriment to have a case that size in hand. I have big hands so it might actually end up nice. Some swyping and other activities will tell and I will report of this when I do.
I did a test of the camera with the inset camera and flash holes and there are no blackout spots in the pictures, nor do they suffer in quality as a result of the case.
I had a theory that this case would be provide more bass by acting as a passive subwoofer cavity and indeed it does although I tested it with the standard battery installed. With less cavity space with the CSI battery installed it should fall somewhere in the middle.
One of the things I noticed is increased low end response was created with a sacrifice in overall volume which makes sense. Will report further once battery is charged and there is a little less cavity space inside the casing.
Below are some pics of the batteries, phone profile, etc.
I will follow up with usage test results once it's charged and in the phone.
Battery charged fully after a couple of hours as it was already pre-charged for a bit. On the phone and Battery Monitor base battery profile created. Will find out the true mAh once I deplete and recharge it once.
I hope it will be a day or two before I report in on this.
EDIT: Update
As I would have bloody well hoped, this battery does extend the life of the Wildfire S by quite a bit. Still trying hard to wear it down here by playing some games, coming up with a new tutorial, some recording of me playing guitar with 4 Track Pro, etc.
No solid stats yet but I will have after a drain and recharge or two.
Battery stays at a cool 25-26 degrees centigrade in operation and was cool to the touch while fast charging on the universal wall charger initially. I''ll provide charge while in use stats in short while.
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11:10 pm and this thing is still charging. It's a lot of juice to squeeze in I guess. Waiting patiently and then I will post the charging profile screen shot from Battery Monitor.
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12:00 pm and the battery is now showing full. Removed battery stats file and doing a complete drain. During charging while using the battery next jumped above 26.5 degrees centigrade. 10 degrees cooler than the stock battery.
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2:00 pm and the battery is at 85 percent with moderate usage. Didn't get to sleep until 5:00 am and was up at 11:00 am checking mail etc.
I have to say that compared with the other WFS with the standard battery I REALLY like the feel of this double sized one in the hand. I find it easier for Swyping and general use. It just feels substantial and cups in the palm of your hand in a way that the shallow case doesn't.
EDIT:
The battery is still going strong. Used it heavily last night doing backups and playing Words With Friends online, tapatalk, gmail etc. for a long while. Had a mega text session with a cute girl.
Just after 3:30 PM on day two. Battery finally powered down after a heavy use phase for the last 10% for a total runtime on the first full charge of 40 hours.
Way cooler than the stock battery. Never got warm to the touch. Clocked in at 26.5 C at it's highest temp.
Apparently they even out and get even more capacity after a charge or two so if I get this up to 48 hours with moderate to heavy usage I'm thinking Phat is the new Thin! ;-)
FINAL UPDATE:
Battery charged over 7 hours while under a heavy load playing games.
All in all I've gotten used to the size, love the amount of power and longevity I get, it stays cool, and the price was great.
Next up... Ecell gold 2430 mAh standard sized lithium polymer review.
Coming soon.
DS

it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.

m1ndh4x8r said:
it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.
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Hehe.
Yah it's not the smallest but I'm liking how it feels in the hand even though it's no longer a Zoolander cell.
So far I've been running it hard since 5 pm or so yesterday. NANDROID backups, restores, lots of web time, some games, FB, doing a bunch of root stuff to fix GPS and figure out WiFi issues. Sitting here with another couple of estimated hours left on it. Trying to run it dry for a calibration or two and it's taking a while to say the least.
It's like the weekend pill Cialis...You could call this thing the weekend battery.
I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.
Me <3 testing...

Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?
Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)
I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.

MoneyFist said:
Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?
Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)
I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.
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Mine was in around 16 to 20 hours based on my usage.
I'll give you the stats on this one after it runs dry. Down 10% over the last 13 hours so far.

d33ps1x said:
I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.
Me <3 testing...
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That's the test I'm more curious about. Anyway I thank you a lot for the review on the FAT battery. It's bigger so it should be better. As I already wrote on another thread I've had nice experiences with Cameron Sino batteries.
I'm curious about the Li-Polymer because the density and weight of the material are totally different. If that one approves I will buy one for sure.
Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac.

miguelca said:
Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac.
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ROFL. Nice.
As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.
I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.
Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating.
I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.
It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.

d33ps1x said:
ROFL. Nice.
As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.
I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.
Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating.
ROTFLMAO
I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.
It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.
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Good luck with the shipping time and with the batteries too.
If the Li-Polymer Gold battery only has about 1700mAH then it is pretty false advertising. My feedback would be pretty negative on eBay.
Sellers shouldn't be so greedy and announce values that are way above reality.
Anyway if 15.50€ gets me about 30-35% battery increase then I will probably buy one.
An original battery costs the double...
I will wait for your review before I decide because I really don't like ordering so near Christmas...
Thanks for your help mate.

No Problem. Up to 37 hours with moderate to heavy usage now.
Final update. 40 hours on first charge.

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No Problem. Up to 37 hours with moderate to heavy usage now.
Final update. 40 hours on first charge.
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This means that on the 3rd or 4th complete charge cycles you will probably get a few more hours. Just follow the battery maker's instructions and I guess that 45 hours of moderate usage will be possible. That's quite an achievement!
Even if it's a Big Mac, for work purposes that wouldn't be a problem.

I'm charging my battery every day...This is too big to my little WFS

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I'm charging my battery every day...This is too big to my little WFS
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I concur...

Awesome post, might get one of the 2430mah ones if it's moderately better than this one.

Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.

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Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.
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Cameron Sino still takes their business very seriously. That's great!

OP, can you come back after a few weeks using this battery, and do a 2nd review to see how it's lasting?
I only ask because I tried a similar 3500mah extended battery, which was amazing for the first few days, but after a week or two it started losing it's charge realy quickly.
40 hours use from a single charge seems awesome, but I don't wanna go spending on another battery until it's withstood the test of time

No problem. I'll put it in my Calendar.

Awesome, can't wait for the results

Nice testing,we shall se if we have new battery champ for our nice wfs

3,800 mAh Extended Battery Review! *Video* *Pictures* *Screenshots* vs stock!

If you have bought this battery, and have experiences, good or bad, and want to share them, let me know!
No longer providing daily updates, but will post how the official extended battery compares in a few days!
If you guys would like me to either carry on testing this battery out, carry out tests on batteries I have (stock, extended, 1950 ebay), or purchase others and test them I'm more than happy to (providing cost isn't too high!) Just let me know!
Scroll down for a 100% to flat Vs stock!
Check out tuner520's findings here, here, here and here!
Hey guys,
So I took the plunge and bought one of these 3,800 mAh extended battery and covers from ebay, they finally turned up today and I am very impressed! I'm not going to try and say the back isnt ugly, but it is far easier to look at than I expected! I was expecting a massive ugly lump, and while it is fairly ugly, it isn't that big for the bump in battery life you'll be getting! The cover follows the curvature of the phone to start with, then flattens out over the top, unfortunately, it seems the designer got bored when it came to the end, and just made a square edge!
I have yet to put the battery through it's paces but will push it hard over the next few days and get back to you with the results!
Video Review!
Pictures!
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Day 1
So Its 8:30 pm here in the UK, been unplugged since 8 am, fairly heavy usage, still got 22% left. Will update with screenshots later tonight!
Day one (first full cycle) Screenshots!!! (the gap is where I made a clockwork backup) At least an hour of GTA played, and 3g was constantly on.
Day 2
Very light usage today due to having exams, so been revising all day (sitting an exam part way through). I am going to pop the battery out and do some reviews of some new cases and the official extended battery I just received, then pop the 3,800 back in and carry on into day 3!
Day 3
So I took out the battery to do some reviews last night, then put it back in, and carried on! Light usage to start with, then medium usage towards the end of the day! (streaming music, web browsing) This battery just will not go flat with this usage!!! Very impressed, it's still only on it's second cycle!
Time for some quick maths if we take day 2 and day 3, add the total time together ( 12h 27m 23s +1d 1h 44m 55s = 137,538 seconds = 38.205 hours (I think!)) and take it as 50% battery used, we can calculate that the battery should last 76.41 hours, or 3.18375 days, which is pretty impressive!
Hope you guys are finding this useful, I'll update again tomorrow!
Day 4
Okay, so I used it a bit more today, and as a result it's now flat! I'm going to charge it up overnight, and tomorrow I will do a 100% to flat test streaming youtube videos, and compare against the stock battery to see how this beast does!
Day 5 - 100% to flat vs stock!
Currently running what I shall call the nyan cat test. Screen brightness on full, bluetooth on, NFC on, portable hotspot on, running on 3g, left in the same spot, playing the 10 hour nyan cat video from youtube.
Done the 3,800 mAh battery, impressive results! Just testing the stock battery then I will post up screenshots of how long they lasted! If there is enough demand for it I can also carry out this test with the official extended battery, as well as the 1,900 mAh batteries I have from eBay.
Results
Okay, so first up is the stock 1750 mAh original battery!
And now the 3,800 mAh extended battery!
So, the results speak for themselves. 3 hours extra screen on time, and the battery is still only on its third cycle!
Update: I tried to make it look better by covering it in white carbon fibre effect vinyl, but due to the excessive curves around the camera (and my somewhat lacking skills), it did not end well!

so review it and tell us if it really doubles batterylife hope so otherwise it is really damn ugly
but for that price not going to argue xD

flipper23 said:
so review it and tell us if it really doubles batterylife hope so otherwise it is really damn ugly
but for that price not going to argue xD
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Will do! Gunna push it hard for a few days and see what kind of life I can get out of it!

Damn! Why didnt you get the big one?

That is one big battery!
How much weight did that thing add, counting the battery and the backpiece?

Jaevlar said:
That is one big battery!
How much weight did that thing add, counting the battery and the backpiece?
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I'd say the battery and case weigh around twice the originals, so it's a noticeable amount of weight extra, but not too much!

so your NFC now is not working right?

ad78 said:
so your NFC now is not working right?
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Nope, NFC does not work with this battery.

Wow....would you like a side of phone with your battery!
But then again, I had a Nokia 9000i Communicator...so that is still an ultra slim phone!

So are you actually seeing double battery life with this? I recall reading a while back about some 3rd party battery tests and they were only performing at about 50-60% of their rated capacity, while OEM's performed at 95-98%. The back case is hideous... I really hope someone comes out with something in between the lackluster 2100 mah ext battery and the 1850 OEM battery.
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Saw this was for the GSM version... Whoops!

can't wait to see some battery life screen shots with this!

Updated the OP with day one screenshots!

Has anyone found a deal for a battery of this size compatible with the LTE model?
(Preferably not the Seidio version, as it retails for near $70.)

13 hours from full to empty with 4 hours and 20 minutes screen on time with a big 3800mah battery, i get 20 hours from full to empty with 4,5 hours screen on time with my stock 1750mah battery.
I know its the first cycle but i really hope it improves alot
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I've had all types of extended batteries for my Evo 4g and my Evo 3D ranging from the cheapo Chinabay to the $75 Seidio 4000mah batteries. Seidio has the closest mah rate as advertised and I once was able to get 120hours of average use out of the Seidio 4000mah battery. The Fleabay extended batteries are only "slightly" better than OEM and it adds the pregnant look to your phone.
Now that I am on the Galaxy Nexus and have loved to use Google Wallet, I am not so keen to jump to use extended batteries that do not support NFC. If Seidio is able to make an extended battery that has the NFC antenna, I will buy it in a heart beat.

Gah.. I'm at four hours screen-on time with my stock battery

Yeah looking at your screen shot, I'd estimate it's about a 2200-2500 mah at best.
A stock battery can almost hit 4 hours, and that ones got maybe 4.5 hour.
That's like what, a 60% effective mah over the rated?

wonshikee said:
Yeah looking at your screen shot, I'd estimate it's about a 2200-2500 mah at best.
A stock battery can almost hit 4 hours, and that ones got maybe 4.5 hour.
That's like what, a 60% effective mah over the rated?
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u do realise that he was playing a lotta GTA and on 3G and heavy usage u cant get over 2.5 hours on stock battrey.

berz said:
u do realise that he was playing a lotta GTA and on 3G and heavy usage u cant get over 2.5 hours on stock battrey.
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I should have mentioned this, I clocked around an hour of GTA use through the day, plenty of web browsing and some video, I would struggle to get through half the time this battery lasted with my stock, and that was it's first cycle!

+1 for 3800mah batt for GSM and recommend it to heavy/busy users.
Battery Monitor says batt life is
13h55m with my heavy usage
13days4hrs Standby
I measured the weight of the batteries and 3800mah is 68.65grams versus stock at 37.75g
BTW, my phone (SC-04D Docomo G.Nexus) is same as the US GSM type. The GPU is overclocked to 384mhz, processor overclocked to 1.42Ghz and its tweaked from kernel to baseband.
Also, I noticed is that this battery has a working internal temp sensor unlike my X10's mugen 3600mah. I don't use NFC but can put the stock batt back in for that moment... it only takes seconds for the Nexus to boot up anyways.
If you need/want extra batt power, I highly recommend this battery. I've used these fat type batteries for 2 phones now and love them both.

True up on 6200 mAh batteries, comments?

There are seems to be quite a few choices for those "double" capacity batteries from Anker, Hyperion, QCell and Mugen where first three go for about $20 with battery cover while Mugen goes for $105 including leather pouch. What makes Mugen 5x more expensive? Can't be a leather pouch And how are those Anker/Hyperion/QCell compare in quality? Most have positive review, except I found this slamming Bad review about Hyperion putting fake labels to cover up their true capacity.
Plus, there is also Seidio Innocell rated at 4500 mAh, and I trust Seidio brand. While reading "beware" Hyperion thread about their Note batteries, people peeled the label off to find 3 battery cells in there rated at 1500 mAh which brings it to 4500 mAh. That made me believe these so called 6200-6400 mAh batteries could be really 4500 mAh while "6200" number is used as marketing technique to promote "double capacity". Which also explains how Zero Lemon 9300 is so humongous because it's truly "triples" the capacity of the battery based on its super extended size, so I have more faith in Zero Lemon about being true to their numbers.
Any thoughts on this?
Also, if I would get various samples of these batteries and want to run test/review, are there any good apps for a true capacity monitoring? I assume any new battery have to be charged to full, and than discharged to phone shutdown, and charged back up for a true calibration, right?

vectron said:
There are seems to be quite a few choices for those "double" capacity batteries from Anker, Hyperion, QCell and Mugen where first three go for about $20 with battery cover while Mugen goes for $105 including leather pouch. What makes Mugen 5x more expensive? Can't be a leather pouch And how are those Anker/Hyperion/QCell compare in quality? Most have positive review, except I found this slamming Bad review about Hyperion putting fake labels to cover up their true capacity.
Plus, there is also Seidio Innocell rated at 4500 mAh, and I trust Seidio brand. While reading "beware" Hyperion thread about their Note batteries, people peeled the label off to find 3 battery cells in there rated at 1500 mAh which brings it to 4500 mAh. That made me believe these so called 6200-6400 mAh batteries could be really 4500 mAh while "6200" number is used as marketing technique to promote "double capacity". Which also explains how Zero Lemon 9300 is so humongous because it's truly "triples" the capacity of the battery based on its super extended size, so I have more faith in Zero Lemon about being true to their numbers.
Any thoughts on this?
Also, if I would get various samples of these batteries and want to run test/review, are there any good apps for a true capacity monitoring? I assume any new battery have to be charged to full, and than discharged to phone shutdown, and charged back up for a true calibration, right?
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I trust Seidio and Mugen. I have tried Anker but am still undecided until I test it for a 3 month minimum. The reason why I usually choose Seidio is because they don't overstate capacity and they usually release a case for their extended battery, which I haven't seen from the other guys. As for Zero Lemon... They are the new kid on the block and will have to prove themselves. Their TPU back cover/Case is definitely thinking outside the box, however they might have to diversify with some other options.

vectron said:
There are seems to be quite a few choices for those "double" capacity batteries from Anker, Hyperion, QCell and Mugen where first three go for about $20 with battery cover while Mugen goes for $105 including leather pouch. What makes Mugen 5x more expensive? Can't be a leather pouch And how are those Anker/Hyperion/QCell compare in quality? Most have positive review, except I found this slamming Bad review about Hyperion putting fake labels to cover up their true capacity.
Plus, there is also Seidio Innocell rated at 4500 mAh, and I trust Seidio brand. While reading "beware" Hyperion thread about their Note batteries, people peeled the label off to find 3 battery cells in there rated at 1500 mAh which brings it to 4500 mAh. That made me believe these so called 6200-6400 mAh batteries could be really 4500 mAh while "6200" number is used as marketing technique to promote "double capacity". Which also explains how Zero Lemon 9300 is so humongous because it's truly "triples" the capacity of the battery based on its super extended size, so I have more faith in Zero Lemon about being true to their numbers.
Any thoughts on this?
Also, if I would get various samples of these batteries and want to run test/review, are there any good apps for a true capacity monitoring? I assume any new battery have to be charged to full, and than discharged to phone shutdown, and charged back up for a true calibration, right?
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I have battery monitor pro and what I get from estimated mah is about 6200 from my anker battery. I dont know how accurate it is.

eijisawakita said:
I have battery monitor pro and what I get from estimated mah is about 6200 from my anker battery. I dont know how accurate it is.
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Have you tried it with stock battery to confirm? Would be a good benchmark.
Also forgot to ask, which battery monitor pro are you using, GSam or another one?

Most of the third party battery makers lie. If you're feeling generous you can call it "over-rating". And yes, Sedio and Mugen have been busted doing it in the past. I have no idea what the current state is with them. IMO, they are not worth the money. The only place I consider worthy of trusting for real data is http://www.batteryreview.info. And only because their results match my own testing. There is no way to know for sure if you don't test outside the phone on a known load. The battery makers know this, and know they probably won't be called on it.
Does that mean the $20 battery that gets 5500 rather than 6200 is a bad deal? Not necessarily. That's up to the buyer. I do wish sites like Amazon would require truth in advertising though.

vectron said:
Have you tried it with stock battery to confirm? Would be a good benchmark.
Also forgot to ask, which battery monitor pro are you using, GSam or another one?
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I'll try it with my OEM battery and report here. I use battery monitor widget pro. It has estimated mah based of how long you charge it. Mine reports 6342 with anker.
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ttabbal said:
Most of the third party battery makers lie. If you're feeling generous you can call it "over-rating". And yes, Sedio and Mugen have been busted doing it in the past. I have no idea what the current state is with them. IMO, they are not worth the money. The only place I consider worthy of trusting for real data is http://www.batteryreview.info. And only because their results match my own testing. There is no way to know for sure if you don't test outside the phone on a known load. The battery makers know this, and know they probably won't be called on it.
Does that mean the $20 battery that gets 5500 rather than 6200 is a bad deal? Not necessarily. That's up to the buyer. I do wish sites like Amazon would require truth in advertising though.
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That batteryreview.info had some of the most poorly written, unscientific reviews I have ever read. And, if that's how you test, then you are in the same boat.
Regarding amazon, I wish they would allow me to buy back the 15 min I just wasted reading thru the batteryreview website.

mdt73 said:
That batteryreview.info had some of the most poorly written, unscientific reviews I have ever read. And, if that's how you test, then you are in the same boat.
Regarding amazon, I wish they would allow me to buy back the 15 min I just wasted reading thru the batteryreview website.
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Well, his testing method on a paper sounds legit and he uses all the right tools for measurement. But his incoherent reviews are all over the place. Needs a better and more consistent review format, plus having links to Amazon where he gets a credit when you purchase the battery kind of takes away from credibility... If you decide to have unbiased independent review, stick to it without other agendas. He should just setup PayPal donation account to get funds to buy and review all the available batteries

I agree with the amazon links, I'd rather see a paypal donate etc.
As for the testing methodology, if you have specific concerns, point them out. He uses commercial test gear, I have a few different things. Some home-built and calibrated, and a couple RC battery testers that also verify cleanly against known data. While the guy's writing may leave something to be desired, the cells he has tested that I have also tested check out the same. I've also seen other sites that reference his that claim to have tested with the same results. For myself, I like to run multiple tests on different gear and average the results to get a final number, though they are within a few %. I also generally run tests at a few current levels.
I don't do much with it these days. I will post if I pick up a battery, but the stock one does ok for now. I did some tests on Vibrant, G2x, and Galaxy Nexus batteries. The stock were always at or above rating, the third party were all over the map. A couple of the third party batteries I took apart had cells with lower capacity markings on them, they did check out to those levels. I have no financial interest in any of it, other than as a user that doesn't like getting sold something that isn't what they told me it is. IMO it's no different than buying a gallon of gas, and getting 0.75 gallon. A few % difference I can be understanding about, >10% there is no excuse.
I might pick up a Zero Lemon, I'm interested in the huge capacity claim. If it tests out, I might even run it in my phone. Still a little unsure about the case/battery cover though.

ttabbal said:
....... A few % difference I can be understanding about, >10% there is no excuse.
I might pick up a Zero Lemon, I'm interested in the huge capacity claim. If it tests out, I might even run it in my phone. Still a little unsure about the case/battery cover though.
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Exactly, what I'm looking for in review - to be sure there is no more than 10% variation from advertised capacity. I also would love to see some battery aging results where it's retested after 3-4 months to see if performance stayed the same or degraded.
Regarding Zero Lemon, I exchanged a few emails with them yesterday, and they are taking case/battery VERY seriously!!! To the point where release of the battery is being pushed out (as it was mentioned in original Zero Lemon thread) so they can fix the fit of their current TPU case. Plus, they are considering designing a new rugged case. I'm glad they are listening to feedback of those who already tested their battery/case and not rushing just to get their product out of the door. Big props!

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Exactly, what I'm looking for in review - to be sure there is no more than 10% variation from advertised capacity. I also would love to see some battery aging results where it's retested after 3-4 months to see if performance stayed the same or degraded.
Regarding Zero Lemon, I exchanged a few emails with them yesterday, and they are taking case/battery VERY seriously!!! To the point where release of the battery is being pushed out (as it was mentioned in original Zero Lemon thread) so they can fix the fit of their current TPU case. Plus, they are considering designing a new rugged case. I'm glad they are listening to feedback of those who already tested their battery/case and not rushing just to get their product out of the door. Big props!
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To really test aging, I think it would be best on a battery that had been used in a phone the whole time. Just to see the real effect of using it. You could set up an automated charge/discharge jig I suppose, but it might not be as good.
I like what you're saying about Zero Lemon. I hope they really do follow through with a great product. More battery is always welcome for me. I'd love to have the phone plugged in less.
If you want to do battery testing, let me know and I'll get you schematics and code for my stuff. I'd also be willing to test some you send and I'll pay the return shipping.

So when i purchased my note II the very first thing i purchased was an extended battery.
i ended up purchasing the Hyperion 6200mAh from amazon as they have a little statement
***NOTE*** Back Cover has had a mid-line change to accommodate for the NFC chip that will eventually be included. Pictures will be corrected soon.
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so i took a gamble that NFC was going to be included on the case and it was! i had to bend the NFC prongs out on my phone a little to make it touch but after that it worked!
Now the battery i have easily gotten double the battery life out of. i got my phone all dialed in then took the regular battery to almost completely discharged.
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as you can see i got about 16 hrs on the stock battery with about 3 hrs and some change of screen time.
The Hyperion battery did a heck of a lot better
Had 4 hrs of screen time on the Hyperion and same about of time off the charger, still 54% left.
Now the only drawback of the extended battery is the NFC location, i do have trouble getting it to pick up with other phones, i have on order a new NFC antenna and I am going to try relocating it to the back of the battery.

Anker, Hyperion, or ZeroLemon for OEM 2200mah replacement battery?

I've searched through the forums, but I wanted to hear some recent opinions. I'm looking to replace my oem 2100mah s3 battery with a 2200-2300 nfc capable battery from one of these three companies. I've looked through the reviews on amazon for all of these three replacements, but I can't decide between the three. Has anyone on here had good experiences with any of these brands specifically for an oem replacement battery (not extended)? Anker and ZeroLemon seem to have better reviews for their 2200mah batteries. I want to keep the replacement battery for at least 18 months. So longevity is important for me as many reviews say these batteries start dying quickly after 6 months.

Jottle said:
I've searched through the forums, but I wanted to hear some recent opinions. I'm looking to replace my oem 2100mah s3 battery with a 2200-2300 nfc capable battery from one of these three companies. I've looked through the reviews on amazon for all of these three replacements, but I can't decide between the three. Has anyone on here had good experiences with any of these brands specifically for an oem replacement battery (not extended)? Anker and ZeroLemon seem to have better reviews for their 2200mah batteries. I want to keep the replacement battery for at least 18 months. So longevity is important for me as many reviews say these batteries start dying quickly after 6 months.
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So ordinarily, not having a Galaxy S3 yet, I wouldn't comment on a question like this. However, because you asked about longevity, I decided I did have some relevant experience that might be useful to you. For my Galaxy S 1 (Sprint Epic 4G), I bought an Anker 1800mah hour battery replacement pack containing two batteries and an external charger. I figured I'd use one in my phone and keep the other for a spare. But shortly thereafter, my wife and I upgraded to Samsung Galaxy S2s (Spring Epic 4G Touch), which happen to use the same battery as the S1. So we each took one of the Anker batteries and got rid of the stock ones, since the phones were bought used and their batteries were pretty well shot. It has been over two years since I made that purchase, and the battery life on both of those Ankers is still as good as the day I put them in. I can't see any degradation at all. So I would highly recommend getting Ankers. I am looking to upgrade to an S3 possibly, and that's what I intend to put in it.
Incidentally, although Anker sounds like an Asian name for a company, it's actually a US company founded by people from Google. So this isn't cheap import junk... the stuff actually works. I put their car chargers in both of my vehicles and my phones charge much faster now as well.

I've got an Anker in my S3 LTE as we speak, and they're pretty good. Have bought them previously too for older phones and have always lived up to the reviews.
Can't speak of the other makes you mention, but the Anker ones come with an 18 month guarantee.

I bought several of the Anker units when I was in the US last year and can't really fault them. I don't know if I could tell the difference between them and the stock Samsung one.

I ended up going with a zerolemon 2300mAh model. It only has a 6 month warranty, but I imagine I'll know if I have a dud by then. Anker reviews seem to indicated that they die after about 8 months. I imagine the zerolemons might as well, but I saw far fewer reviews on amazon that stated this. I'm sure Anker makes a good product, but they seem to put a lot of effort into eliminating negative reviews on amazon and encouraging positive reviews by replacing faulty batteries out of the warranty period. That's just my impression.

My friend will come from US and i want to buy one of these batteries. Zerolemon 2300 mah or Anker 2200 mah which one do you recommend guys?

Jottle said:
I ended up going with a zerolemon 2300mAh model. It only has a 6 month warranty, but I imagine I'll know if I have a dud by then. Anker reviews seem to indicated that they die after about 8 months. I imagine the zerolemons might as well, but I saw far fewer reviews on amazon that stated this. I'm sure Anker makes a good product, but they seem to put a lot of effort into eliminating negative reviews on amazon and encouraging positive reviews by replacing faulty batteries out of the warranty period. That's just my impression.
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can you post some stats please? I am looking to buy a zerolemon 2300 as wellm thanks.

I don't have a stats app, but now I'm getting over a full day on a single charge. I get to 50% after light use from morning until 7pm. I can leave the phone on overnight without connecting to the charger and be at around 40% the next morning. So far, the zerolemon is doing very well.

blue_moon said:
My friend will come from US and i want to buy one of these batteries. Zerolemon 2300 mah or Anker 2200 mah which one do you recommend guys?
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I have the Anker one since August. Works wonderfully.

I have the anker 7200 since feb/march and its been giving me 2 days ( 8-10 hours screen time) .. Probably was better when I first got it but I can't complain on the battery life at all compared to stock.
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I have the gorilla gadgets 4550mAh battery, and it is alot better than the stock. However whwnever this battery dies, im going to be getting the 7000mAh battery, or a new pbone lol

bloodstorm666 said:
I have the gorilla gadgets 4550mAh battery, and it is alot better than the stock. However whwnever this battery dies, im going to be getting the 7000mAh battery, or a new pbone lol
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7000mAh battery is too big

i got an Anker 2200 mah. i will give you a review soon.

i want too buy Anker 2200mah please tell something about it

LKHN said:
i want too buy Anker 2200mah please tell something about it
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My battery results with Anker 2200 mah.
Boeffla kernel pegasus standart.
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Compared to 4.4.2 blekota S5 lite v10 there is A little battery drain about %10 much more. Android System eating lots of it Like 4.4.2 as you can see. Screen eats %22, apps eat %69.

blue_moon said:
My battery results with Anker 2200 mah.
Boeffla kernel pegasus standart.
Compared to 4.4.2 blekota S5 lite v10 there is A little battery drain about %10 much more. Android System eating lots of it Like 4.4.2 as you can see. Screen eats %22, apps eat %69.
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one more question Brand New stock battaery or Anker 2200 mah? and why? i want buy it here http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B00A44JSFK

LKHN said:
one more question Brand New stock battaery or Anker 2200 mah? and why? i want buy it here http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B00A44JSFK
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i dont know about brand new stock battery but there are a lot of fake battery on amozon and ebay. be careful.

I've had the Hyperion 7000 mAh battery for a year now.

I've had the anker 2200mAh battery. Dunno if it's just my usage but the battery just expanded in size. So much so that it doesn't even power on my phone anymore.

whatsgood said:
I've had the anker 2200mAh battery. Dunno if it's just my usage but the battery just expanded in size. So much so that it doesn't even power on my phone anymore.
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As soon a battery begins expanding, it's time to buy another, not try to use it, that's dangerous. For your safety, discard it.
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