Very crappy signal.. (different from LOS) - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Is this an issue for anyone else?
I just switched over from Evo 3D. And in my living room, where I used to get 2 bars on Evo, I get absolutely 0 on this phone. It goes in and out of roaming like 100 times while I'm there. And in the basement, where I used to get at least 1, I get roaming at all times.
Is there a fix for this?
(I searched on the 1st two pages of this section, and found nothing.)

arozer said:
Is this an issue for anyone else?
I just switched over from Evo 3D. And in my living room, where I used to get 2 bars on Evo, I get absolutely 0 on this phone. It goes in and out of roaming like 100 times while I'm there. And in the basement, where I used to get at least 1, I get roaming at all times.
Is there a fix for this?
(I searched on the 1st two pages of this section, and found nothing.)
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I see the same signal strength on both phones. You should check with your local Sprint people for getting a refund or something.

This phone's reception is way worse than the evo 3D.
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Try calling Sprint and having them do a profile reset on their end and then update your PRL and profile while in your home. It helped me
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I can't compare to evo3d, but compared to evo 4g this phone is far worse reception. Also, wifi reception is at least as terrible. At is, assuming the DB levels and bars both correlate to the real signal level. I often send and receive calls with 0 bars. It makes no sense, but i've learned to live with the concept that 0 bars on an samsung epic 4g touch does not mean anything.
If you are roaming however where you previously got 2 bars.. well.. thats a different story. Try turning off roaming and see if you can't dial out.

i feel ya. both me and my father got new epic touches and i at least really love the phone.. but ... the 3g at least signal strength is subpar.
where i was getting -78 db on a moment
and he was getting -71 db on an evo
we are both hovering around the -101 db mark at home.
poor.
very sad because other than the poor signal strength outside of major areas these things blow my mind.

arozer said:
Is this an issue for anyone else?
I just switched over from Evo 3D. And in my living room, where I used to get 2 bars on Evo, I get absolutely 0 on this phone. It goes in and out of roaming like 100 times while I'm there. And in the basement, where I used to get at least 1, I get roaming at all times.
Is there a fix for this?
(I searched on the 1st two pages of this section, and found nothing.)
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Take it into Sprint store. They will do a test. My first SII ET had some other bug. I had very poor reception and very slow internet.

Yep. My speeds suck on 3g. Works great on 4g
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speedy0339 said:
This phone's reception is way worse than the evo 3D.
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I am finding exact opposite results.
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if i lean forward on my couch, I get 1 bar sprint, lean back, nothing, unless i force roam to VZ, i get 2-3 on that... anyways, reception is about the same as for the OG epic for me, the 4g is way better for me though, I was in my work parking lot and got 13 megs down... but 4g is so spotty here I rarely turn it on. Anyways, with the Network Vision thingy going on... I suspect some crazy signal drops/increases coming...

10-13Mbps download speeds on full bar 4G at home. No LOS, Not a single issue with this phone. Battery life is amazing. I am finding it hard to be on the forums because everyone is complaining about something. Bad 3g...blame the IPhone for that. My 4G has gone up by 5+Mbps. I did the 4G signal hack that I did on my Epic and it only got better. I guess I need to go chill in the Nexus forums until people get their issues worked out. Its probably a voltage increase when phone is idle that will fix LOS issue
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[Q] Really slow data speed

I have been dealing with Sprint this past week about very slow data speed. I have been getting around 50-100 kbps down and 300 kbps up. When I went to a nearby town I was getting 800- 1300 kbps down and 400-500 kbps up. All of these are on 3G. Today when Sprint called me I was asked if " EV " was displayed instead of 3G. I was told there are 3 levels to 3G. I vaguely remember EV before I rooted and ROMed but I have not seen it since. Is indication of " EV " typically removed from a custom ROM? I have used Frozen 1.2 and am now using RandomRom 2.3.4. I tried all of the available modems with Frozen with no change before I installed EG22 and Flashed RandomRom. I have a few friends that also are complaining about slow data speeds in our area so I don't think its my phone anymore. Any thoughts or advice on the subject?? Thanks!
I think you mean EV
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viper786 said:
I think you mean EV
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Your right! Fixed!
Fryedchicken said:
Your right! Fixed!
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I think you mean "you're"
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Sprint has horrible 3G speeds which is also why Im going to drop them soon.
After Sprint did not renew its tower leasing agreements and lost its Alltel tower network, its % nationwide coverage area dropped precipitously. Even with SERO, I am now questioning whether it's worth staying with Sprint given the decline in service over the past few years.
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Sprint has horrible 3G speeds which is also why Im going to drop them soon.
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Have fun when you reach your 2g of 5gig cap. which is really easy to do.
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You're most likely on 1x. The Epic doesn't have 1x or EV signal icons by default. Try this app and it will tell you everything about your connection.
before the evo came out, sprint was worty of its name.
it had the fastest 3g in the country. 3-5mbps on my hero in nyc
then evo came out and who needs 4g when your 3g is more than enough?
Everyone saying they dropping sprint soon. Sprint will phase in their new type of signal next year, they will discuss it on the 7th of next month. I think they may have started on some towers. My 3G has greatly dropped but my 4G is almost as fast (if not as fast) as my DSL internet. I am happy with it and being with Sprint 6 years and compared to what others complain about from their service I'll stick with sprint for 6 more. Unless they raise prices.
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R3537L1F3 said:
Everyone saying they dropping sprint soon. Sprint will phase in their new type of signal next year, they will discuss it on the 7th of next month.
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Well, hopefully it changes things for the better, but I still don't see how it makes up for the lack of towers. And what's good is 4g if I can't get it in 50% of locations? Giving it until the end of the year.
I guess im lucky. I get ok 3g (0.9mbs) and great 4g ( 5-7 mbs). But driving around my city, it cones and goes once I hit a few city hills.
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Me and my g/f both have Epics. Mine is rooted and running a custom rom and hers is stock. Both of us were experiencing crappy data speeds until i updated both phones modems to EH17.
Speeds are much better in some places where we have good signal, from 300k to 1.5 - 2.2mbps. So it may have something to do with the modem you currently have as well.
Although i did talk to a sprint employee at the nearby store and I was told they were going through some tower upgrades in the DFW area. Tearing down old towers and putting up new. He suggested that it would be around 6 to 8 months time before things are completed.
I also have been in contact with sprint over the last 6 weeks or so about crap 3g. At times I see 12KB downloads with 6 out of 6 to 6 bars.
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I ran that clear nvram thing from the other thread. I suggest you try this. It fixed my GPS perfectly and my 3g speeds have increased dramatically. I ran a speedtest earlier and got 300-350kb/s. Before I did it my 3g was atrocious at less than 50kb/s.
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Problem with all this is that CDMA "4G" eats a ton of battery compared to just as fast (or in Sprint's case, 20x faster) HSPA+ network. This is just my very personal observation between Epic and LG G2X. My super personal opinion is that CDMA should just burn in hell and die. Voice quality is better...
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herzzreh said:
Problem with all this is that CDMA "4G" eats a ton of battery compared to just as fast (or in Sprint's case, 20x faster) HSPA+ network. This is just my very personal observation between Epic and LG G2X. My super personal opinion is that CDMA should just burn in hell and die. Voice quality is better...
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This. Anyone ever run their phone in airplane mode from a full charge to 0%? The battery lasts AGES. I had to run benchmarks repeatedly on performance mode for hours to kill it purposely. The ****ed up part is that I ALWAYS have NY 3g off and 4g on. The radio in this device is horrid for battery life.
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I've also called sprint this week to ask/complain about data speeds. The best I've ever had is around 1100 kbps down, but lateley it's only been 100 to 300. So a couple of days ago I went to a verizon store and asked the girl to compare speeds with me. She was getting 1900kdps down and my epic NEVER even found the nearest server. I was blown away and very red faced when I left. I could get better data speeds with two soup cans and some string.
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I've also called sprint this week to ask/complain about data speeds. The best I've ever had is around 1100 kbps down, but lateley it's only been 100 to 300. So a couple of days ago I went to a verizon store and asked the girl to compare speeds with me. She was getting 1900kdps down and my epic NEVER even found the nearest server. I was blown away and very red faced when I left. I could get better data speeds with two soup cans and some string.
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You know who else has 2 soup cans and a string? Mah maaammm!
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I gotta say the slow data speeds were killing me but now things have changed for the good. I hit my 4g icon by accident and now my data speeds fly! 5700kbps down and almost 1700kbps up....truely awesome!!!! Thanks Sprint!!!!
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Anyone else have horrible Wifi range?

With my Epic, i'd always get 2 out of 3 bars for wifi in my room.. i'm only getting 1 bar for wifi in my room
Hmm, I guess i'm the only one
have you noticed difference in speed between the two?
I'm on the fence right now as to whether to go trade the MoPho in for a Sammy. Last Sammy I had was the Moment, so you can understand the hesitation...lol.
yeah i did notice the fact that my bars are lower than usual
it's on par with my previous E3D's and NS4G, not like that's any compliment.
This thing is killer at locking onto even a weak 3G signal though.
I noticed it too, I usually have 3 bars wifi with my old epic 4g but now on 2 to 1 bar?
I am as well... I had to go right beside my router to even connect.
I wonder if there is a battery-chugging mode like on the E3D...I'm not sure if that was HTC's idea or not. Hard to tell, looked like a optional stock component. It helped a ton, but, at the expense of your battery.
bars dont really tell you much...
this has been well documented that cellphone manufacturers are always changing how many bars = how many dB.
It's annoying, to say the least.
If I am not mistaken the epic 4g only had a wireless G card where epic touch 4g has an N card. If you are broadcasting both aka your router has N and G then its going to auto connect to the N signal. N is faster but has a shorter range.
Zzim said:
If I am not mistaken the epic 4g only had a wireless G card where epic touch 4g has an N card. If you are broadcasting both aka your router has N and G then its going to auto connect to the N signal. N is faster but has a shorter range.
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Almost everything you just said is incorrect. The Epic 4G supports 802.11N, and one of the primary functions of 802.11N besides increased speed is increased range. Every new standard of 802.11 focuses on improving both of these.
Mine seems to be as good as the EVO
I am having the same issue... Sitting in my living room I have full signal with my Evo... 1-2 bars with the SG2.
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Mine is showing 1bar and my wifes EVO is show 3 so I did a speedtest and the results are amazing 18down 4up for the E4GT and I didnt waste my time testing the EVO.
Same here, used to get three bars in this room with OG Epic, now only 1. Not worried about it though because the up/down speeds are right on.
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Someone already said this here but I think it needs to be restated. Just because you only have x amount of bars means next to nothing. Do a speed test and see what the difference is. Different companies will show different amount of bars for different amounts of signal strength (which can be very misleading). What really matters is your signal strength in dB, not your bars. If your EVO gets the same down and up speed as your E4GT, you probably have similar signal strength with your wireless connection regardless of how many bars you see.
mine is a lot better than my nexus s. about 4x better in fact.
Same here
But i did a sppedtest and it is a great connection 18 up 8 down these bars dont mean much
Same here. I'm one room over from my router and I only have 1-2 bars. My EVO3D has full.
I think they put the wifi radio in the bottom... When i cup it the signal goes down
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[Q] terrible 4g signal (compared with Photon)

First, let me say that I love this phone. However, I used to get perfect 4g signal in my home with the Photon, and now the signal is touch and go at best. Anyone have the same issue or know of a fix (besides moving)?
Found this post that seems to have some proven methods for samsung 4g (and 3g) signal and speed boosting!!
i can believe it. motorolas are usually the best when it comes to reception. I know on the EVO there was a way to make it more receptive to 4G signals and it worked great..but im not sure about samsungs though.
Read that as well. Photon signals were tops. Photon got signals where no other phone would even dream of trying to pick one up.
That said I am coming from the Evo, so the whole Galaxy thing is new to me..
I get the exact same signal as my photon. I was doubtful at first but I am actually surprised I get 4g in my room. I don't get it with the evo3d. Photon got it and now sgs2 gets it too.
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nkd said:
I get the exact same signal as my photon. I was doubtful at first but I am actually surprised I get 4g in my room. I don't get it with the evo3d. Photon got it and now sgs2 gets it too.
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Hello,
So, interm of signal and receiption, Photon 4g and GS2 are about the same?
nkd said:
I get the exact same signal as my photon. I was doubtful at first but I am actually surprised I get 4g in my room. I don't get it with the evo3d. Photon got it and now sgs2 gets it too.
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May be this depends on how strong the signal is. I know my EVO 4G had way better signal than the 3d that I dumped. I have the Photon, and if the signal is great I am coming aboard. The problem is there's no set measurement of how much more or less signal this phone has over the Photon or not. Also hows the regular 3g signal compared to the Photon? I like the fact that there is suppose to be support for the next rev B or 1xdo A signal. This means I can hold the damn phone for a more than a year if I choose to.
I'm a total noob or something cause I can't seem to find [irl.MSL] according to the thread. Little help please?
A reviewer did 'study' of 4G signal strength-reception andnfpund the Photon with the best reception of any Sprint phone.
JBNAquatics said:
I'm a total noob or something cause I can't seem to find [irl.MSL] according to the thread. Little help please?
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Don't think it's there, either... But call 611 and they'll tell you immediately. Can confirm the fix works, at least for boosting signal. Speed seems unchanged, but fine... About 4mbps.

Wifi radio strength

Anyone having weak wifi radio where I get full bars with the e3d I get one bar on the epic touch and the speed are on half compared to my e3d any one else having this
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I have the same problem
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same problem,,,
I got time warner 20mbps down and 2mbps up. I only get one bar on wifi signal but i get full 20mbps and 2mbps up. i only used to get 7mbps with my og evo
Same problem
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Same problem. Mine cuts on and off every few minutes
Ditto.....
Ditto
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it is better than my EVO with CM7 but it is a little weak
No problems with mine. Rock solid!!! I can go to the end of my driveway and check the mail which is over ~125'
You can not look at the amount of bars you have. What do the bars mean? ! You have to actually look at the speeds if they have not changed then you have nothing to worry about. One bar on this phone might be the same as three bars on our old phone.
But if it's not working correctly all together then that is something ole' Sammi needs to fix.
Kiki
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Same problem here. If I am in the front room mine won't even connect to the router in the other room most times. Hope this gets fixed in a update.
You might check the galaxy s2 forums over at androidforums.com; I remember when i was following the gs2 that there were some issues with wifi; not sure if htey were resolved. Generally folks loved the phone nad thought the gps was decent; but there were one or two threads on wif. Not sure if they figured it out...
Same issue here. My laptop and my EVO3d have FULL bars while this phone is hovering back and forth between 2 bars and none. The connection even drops. It has a horrible wifi signal, even at work.
Maybe I will switch to the iPhone 4... they have the wifis.
Im thinkin just the bars are not what your used to seeing, mine always shows 0-2 bars but the connection is always solid.
I have a nexus s 4g. I think Sammy makes some weak radios. I have the same problem. OG evo works fine.
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I got time warner 20mbps down and 2mbps up. I only get one bar on wifi signal but i get full 20mbps and 2mbps up. i only used to get 7mbps with my og evo
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Yeah same here TimeWarner is good here. I had the nexus S 4g a week ago and that phone could not lock into a wifi signal even standing in front of the router so as much as i like it i said goodbye and hello Epic touch 4g even on 1bar its blazing fast.
I have the same issue, but I think it's also more of the signal indicator making it worse in your head...as it does mine! I'll hold a wireless signal at good strength but the WiFi icon has no bars...just the dot at the bottom! I did to some "field" tests in my driveway and yard with my Toshiba netbook, iPod touch, and ET4G; the netbook definitely had the best signal at a distance, the iPod in second, and the ET4G in VERY close third. Anyone think there could be a firmware fix or is it just a bad radio?
I read in two separate places that the fewer bars were due to a linear formula used to calculate them, which was not a standard in the industry.
When decibel levels were compared, they were about the same.
I don't know how true that is.
I guess that's possible but then what do you need to have FULL bars? I am sitting right next to my router and I only have 3 bars... Maybe I need to shove the Router antenna up my phone's mini port

[Q] Poor cell signal- often roaming

I've had the E4GT for less than 24hrs, and biggest issue is the less than splendid cell reception. Sitting in my living room i used to get 2-3 bars- this thing constantly throws into roaming. I updated my PRL, Profile, and Firmware. Didn't know what the latest PRL was that was out.
I know this thing has only been out a few days, so i understand some bugs. Is anyone else having signal issues where they didn't before?
I'm really trying rock this for a couple days stock before i root the hell out of it, lol.
Thanks for any input. Link me to resources if you like, i have no issues reading up on my own if this is a common issue.
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I've had the E4GT for less than 24hrs, and biggest issue is the less than splendid cell reception. Sitting in my living room i used to get 2-3 bars- this thing constantly throws into roaming. I updated my PRL, Profile, and Firmware. .
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Ditto! I even have an Air Rave and reception is poor.
I am running into the same situation. It keeps on switching between roaming and normal for no reason. I usually get pretty good reception in my room. It will sit there at about 2-3 bars reception, few minutes later its roaming. The phone hasn't been moved at all.
This happened to me 20 minutes after I got it on Friday but after a reboot it was fine. No problem since then. I assumed it was a network issue.
Same issue here, even with Airave (evo next to SG2 has better signal)
Huh, I'm getting better reception than my Evo 4G. The Epic Touch now works in my condo elevator at basement garage level where the Evo would consistently drop a call.
has anyone did a signal strength comparison instead of bars. they may have different values per bar on different phones.
Returns are warranted?
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I wonder if there is a difference in radios or something. My experience tells me that this radio is finicky as heck, and I don't know why.
Is there a way to find out if Samsung used different parts or suppliers to make the Epic Touch?
I remember HTC doing this with their phones, and some would be fine, and some would not (different issue each phone, lol)
Mine was doing the same i switched the phone to only go on sprints network and has been fine. I rarely need true roaming but it would go into roaming even when sprint service was available.
I think Sprint may be doing network upgrades/maintenance. The same phenomenon occurs on my Epic 4G Touch and multiple Nexus S 4G's. I'll see signal jump from -106 dBm to -76 dBm and in some places go into roaming. Nothing to worry about as long as it works. They may be upgrading equipment to support EVDO rev B hopefully.
I get much better 4G reception on the E4GT than the NS4G, FWIW.
My signal isn't as good as my photon was better then my evo 3d. I usually don't roam much. Trust me when I say this, reception could be worse lol ill deal with it!!
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I hope the poor signal has to do with upgrading to EvDo RevB on Oct7
Thank God I am not alone. My cell reception too is finicky. In places my old evo (which my girl use now)have weak signal my epic touch would roam in and out. Sometimes it won't leave roaming even after I get to a known good reception area. Only a reboot would kick it back to sprint network. I read somewhere that calling sprint and having them reset my phone on their end might help. I am going to try this out as soon as I get home.

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