[Q] Voice and Data - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
So I've noticed that I cannot do voice and data simultaneously (call someone and surf the web at the same time). I know its supposed to be possible under 3G and HSDPA for GSM networks. I am in a perfectly good HSDPA region (3G too for that matter, but my phone shows the H icon).
The only reason I can think that it is not working is because I am currently using the Vision_Radio_12.52. 60.25_26.08.04.30 (from *LEAK* Vision_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.13) radio which is not the newest one.
So will upgrading my radio solve the problem (I can do voice and data fine individually.)? Or is it just not possible for some reason with this phone?

You can but only with 4g, the h on stock means 4 or 3g

No same for me and I am on a different radio the one ending .12,data turns off when talking,as to the reason why, I dont know, I just know it does not work.

killj0y said:
You can but only with 4g, the h on stock means 4 or 3g
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Ok, but like I said, I am seeing an H indicating that I should be on a HSDPA network (there is a seperate 3G icon when I am in 3G).
Regardless of 3G or 4G, I thought GSM can support voice + data over both 3G and 4G.
Bombadier is using the latest radio and is having the same problem so I wonder what is the reason behind this...

Radio and ROM specs in my signature, I have no problems talking and surfing while in H or 3G.

SuperDave81 said:
Radio and ROM specs in my signature, I have no problems talking and surfing while in H or 3G.
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Quick question do you have mobile network data always on?

Whatever the default is, I never manually turn it off, but I do use juice defender and allow it to turn off mobile data only when my screen is off.

Should of said on the phone running Unity, as I have it set from settings - wireless and network - mobile networks - not always on, will change it to always on and see if the connection stays on while talking.
Edit Just tested and the data connection stays on while I am on the phone,the OP should try mobile networks always on then.

My mobile network is already set to Always On.
When I get back home, I will update my ROM to the latest InserCoin v1.61 and the newest radio and report back. Hopefully, that will fix my problems.
Also, once I flash the newest radio, will I have to flash RIL too?

Just remember, newest radio doesn't always mean the best radio. I'm using an old one that after trying 5 different radios turned out to be the best.
Not sure about RIL's on sense though...

Seems to be all quiet about the need to match the rils,I used to, but had a few bad experiences matching the rils on the new unity releases 2.35+ so have stopped doing it,certainly with AOSP based roms it is not recommended to match,hope you get your problem sorted.
P.S. As the other chap said,the newest radio does not always mean the best radio,a bit of experimentation is required,also be sure to wipe the EFS data when changing radios.Link to a flashable zip can be found in the radio thread.

Updating to the newest ROM, kernel, and radio solved the problem. Thanks everyone for the help!

andersonjacob54 said:
Updating to the newest ROM, kernel, and radio solved the problem. Thanks everyone for the help!
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Pleased to hear you are all good

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new radio causing 3g/hsdpa connection problems

I don't know if there are more of you having problems with 3g and hsdpa after flashing the new radio update.
My connection type only accepts gprs after the flash. When i dial *#*#INFO#*#* and choose information and tap the ping test, i can only see that gprs is connected.
With the older radio's i always had a hsdpa connection.
This is the radio i'm using: 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04
Roms are different roms with the same issue:
-Defrost 2.0a
-DJDroid v1.0r1
-Adams OpenDesire 1.5 and 1.6 prerelease.
All roms in combination with this radio are causing problems with my 3g connection.
Maybe if you specify the ROM and the Radio versions you are using, someone can help you....
RiodaITA said:
Maybe if you specify the ROM and the Radio versions you are using, someone can help you....
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edited the first post.
dutch Hi / KPN... no difference at all.. 3g works fine, speedtest still showing 950kbps
Open desire 1.5, h3g data connection is HSDPA, with latest radio.
Well i only see the gprs icon, no 3g or hsdpa here. Speedtests give me 0.01mbit down and 0.02mbit upload speeds.
I just found 2 more simcards.
1 kpn
2 t-mobile
both the same thing, no more than 0.02 mbit up and down. . .
Maybe i have to try flashing a older radio back.
peewster said:
I just found 2 more simcards.
1 kpn
2 t-mobile
both the same thing, no more than 0.02 mbit up and down. . .
Maybe i have to try flashing a older radio back.
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No problem with the radio (got 3.4 mbgit this morning), and I'm on dutch vodafone.
Ok, so maybe my phone is just broken....
peewster said:
Ok, so maybe my phone is just broken....
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Maybe vodafone 3G broadcast thingie (dunno) is broken in your area?
Yeah mine dropped to 2G All the time so I flash the Android 2.2 HTC sense Rom and pushed it to wcdma only. Works, I think it's an issue with the radio for T-Mobile UK customers
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abats said:
Maybe vodafone 3G broadcast thingie (dunno) is broken in your area?
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No because he tried kpn and T-mobile as well.
I've always had 3G issues on mine regardless of radio so I'm putting it down to being orange. New radio for me seems better tho, I get H alot more so things work fine!
Maybe the flash didn't take...
I flashed Dj Droid 1.0 r1 today with new radio and ive not shown Hdspa since. I did a speed test and it showed 1.9 - 2Mb, which is good for where i am. I did the ping test and it came back saying Hdspa so i think with me its just the icon thats not changing.
2.2 unless patched will only display 3G icon for both 3G and H. I doubt HTC have put that patch in...
And found another vodafone card (vodafone dongle)
Lets try
I have the same problem with H only getting 3g signal, since I started using 32... radio. So its defiantly not network related.
Ok tested my vodafone dongle, and same issue (from laptop), so there must be something wrong with the vodafone network.
Pffieuw
I have same problem with last radio with ROM Six O'clock AM, Open Desire, AOSP, DjRoid and AOSPDesire_1.2.2.
It's a bit strange, normally when i am in the living room a always had 3g or hsdpa. Now i only have gprs until i go upstairs, when i'm at the top floor it shows me the hsdpa icon, and a speed test of +/- 1.5/2Mbit down and up.
So there changed something. Maybe Vodafone messed up their signal or there's something different with the new radio. . .

How is your 3G connection since latest radio install?

This isn't related to any particular ROM as I have tasted this with various sense and none sense ROMS... Has anyone since using the latest radio had issues with connecting to 3G or having very strange fluctuations, where the signal might go dead completely then back up to full?
I seem to be experiencing this with 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20
nope seems fine with mine. OD rom in Australia
the ginger god said:
This isn't related to any particular ROM as I have tasted this with various sense and none sense ROMS... Has anyone since using the latest radio had issues with connecting to 3G or having very strange fluctuations, where the signal might go dead completely then back up to full?
I seem to be experiencing this with 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20
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The mentioned Radio is really poor in 3G Network. Especially change between 3G and EDGE. When I disconnect from Wifi it too often doesnt connect to the GSM or 3G again - the bars are there, you can phone but cant use data connection.
I hope there'll be a updated radio soon!
Im not happy with 5.09.00.20.
Hi,
I'm also experiencing a poor 3G connection with this radio.
I'm not happy with that.
Vodafone Spain, also same while itinerance in Portugal, USA.
Best
this radio has been absolutely fine for me.
having poor reception at singapore here too...
should i downgrade the radio?
Working best for me. From Malaysia.
Not working at all well for me. All was working great until I flashed to this radio. I'm now experiencing complete signal drops at least once an hour, have to toggle airplane mode to re-enable.
I tried rolling back to each other radio bar the first 3 or 4 with the same result.
Could it be something else or am I missing something when rolling back the radio?
It works fine for me as long as I stay in Copenhagen, but I've experienced losing signal altogether when travelling, this didn't happen before, so I think it's because of the radio.
I have a weird issue where I never seem to be able to access the Internet in any way until the connection icon changes from "3G" to "H". Is this normal? I haven't noticed this on the stock radio but then I didn't keep it that long...
Still having this "issue". Anyone else?
New version is working really better here.
Where could one get that version? And is it supposed to work on any ROM without breaking it?
I have the 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 radio and am on Telus.
I have the same issue as you. When the icon shows 3G my internet doesnt work at all but as soon as it changed to H (bang) full speed internet..
It did it for me on the 32.43 radio but not on stock. Anyone know what the stock Telus Radio is?
Guys you do know on telus we dont have a 3G network its strictly "H" that would be why your internet does not work. I would like to know how you managed to get stuck in 3G as i never have.
I have no idea - i just updated radio and rom to 2.2 Official (but rooted) - i entered the apn settings from the telus website.
When on internet things will be fine, internet loading (H in task bar) and then suddenly it will turn to the 3G icon and internet will freeze until the H icon comes back. Strange...
When i go into the settings and check my phone model it says its a HTC Desire A8181 - i checked the internet and this model is 3G Dual-Band 900/2100MHz.
Before i flashed a 2.2 rom my model showed as HTC Desire 8182, which is 850/1900 3G.
Could this be why its getting stuck on 3G instead of H?
My model also displays HTC Desire A8181 and I'm running a 2.2 ROM.
I don't remember what it said before on the Telus stock rom, but I could try flashing it back to see, since I have it in backup.
If you could try flashing it back that would be great - i think i have my Nandroid backup but its on my works computer...
Tsuushin said:
I have a weird issue where I never seem to be able to access the Internet in any way until the connection icon changes from "3G" to "H". Is this normal? I haven't noticed this on the stock radio but then I didn't keep it that long...
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Tsuushin said:
My model also displays HTC Desire A8181 and I'm running a 2.2 ROM.
I don't remember what it said before on the Telus stock rom, but I could try flashing it back to see, since I have it in backup.
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the modle should do anything i change mine to just HTC Desire, what rom are you running?

WiFi connection kills mobile network

I'm having an issue that happens about 50% of the time. When in a WiFi zone and connected to a router, quite often the mobile network will lose connection so I cannot make calls or send texts. None of the mobile bars are illuminated and there appears to be a little "x" above them. Leaving the WiFi zone disconnects from the router, but the mobile network still does not come back.
I have to reboot the phone before it picks up the mobile network again. It's really frustrating because without checking my phone, I never know whether it has mobile network connection or not (when i'm in a WiFi area such as work). I know the area i'm in has mobile connection, but WiFi just seems to kill it.
This is happening on the stock HTC ROM and the latest Oxygen ROM that I flashed to. Is this a known big or any tips/tricks?
Go to Settings > Wireless & Networks > press Menu, select Advanced, and check your Wi-Fi Sleep policy settings.
maybe you have an old radio? i would suggest that you try to flash another radio to see if it solves your problem. again, just a suggestion!!!
MasDroid said:
Go to Settings > Wireless & Networks > press Menu, select Advanced, and check your Wi-Fi Sleep policy settings.
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Hmmm, I did not know about that. I'm not sure it'll fix the issue, but the WiFi turning off an on did somewhat bug me, so cheers for showing me that setting anyway
mariosraptor said:
maybe you have an old radio? i would suggest that you try to flash another radio to see if it solves your problem. again, just a suggestion!!!
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Well, I don't know what my stock radio was, but when I flashed to Oxygen I tried the one the dev recommended. Perhaps i'll try another.
Would 3 Mobile be really annoyed if I took the phone in for help and it was flashed to a custom ROM?
alex98uk said:
Hmmm, I did not know about that. I'm not sure it'll fix the issue, but the WiFi turning off an on did somewhat bug me, so cheers for showing me that setting anyway
Well, I don't know what my stock radio was, but when I flashed to Oxygen I tried the one the dev recommended. Perhaps i'll try another.
Would 3 Mobile be really annoyed if I took the phone in for help and it was flashed to a custom ROM?
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You could also try a modified kernel and as suggested above, a different radio version as this can help with issues related to Wi-Fi reception, GPS signal strength, and battery life.
If you purchased the mobile from 3 Mobile, then they may suggest that your warranty is void as you have 'hacked' it. You can always flash back to stock ROM and then check if the same issue persists. If not, then go back to a custom ROM, try different radio versions and some may work better as it can depend on your network/area, and if still not resolved, try flashing a compatible modified Kernel from the Desire Android Development section of the forum.
I'm using Leedroid 2.3b with RIL optimised for 5.11.05.27, and I notice weak signal with WiFi, it is present, but WiFi bars change all the time, among other symptoms similar to those he has described. The other day I went out of range of WiFi network, but the phone hasn't switched to mobile network, but instead the WiFi icon remained and there of course was no connection. Would you define this as an ROM or radio issue? Is there any sense in changing the radio to other when the ROM developer stated this one is the best?
A few days ago I flashed the newest radio (I was using batt+ up to that moment) because I experienced echo during calls. Now the echo is gone, but this happens.
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I'm using Leedroid 2.3b with RIL optimised for 5.11.05.27, and I notice weak signal with WiFi, it is present, but WiFi bars change all the time, among other symptoms similar to those he has described. The other day I went out of range of WiFi network, but the phone hasn't switched to mobile network, but instead the WiFi icon remained and there of course was no connection. Would you define this as an ROM or radio issue? Is there any sense in changing the radio to other when the ROM developer stated this one is the best?
A few days ago I flashed the newest radio (I was using batt+ up to that moment) because I experienced echo during calls. Now the echo is gone, but this happens.
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I think it could be ROM or Radio related... I was not aware that the associated RIL was to be flashed also although I know it is always recommened as it can provide an important part in handling the communication between the Radio and the Kernel.
Have you tried without the RIL and just the radio alone? Try that and see if it improves the situation.
I downloaded and flashed RIL for this radio. It shouldn't make any difference though since this RIL is supposed to be in the ROM already. :s
This radio is also downloaded OTA from our provider. I checked my sister's Desire, she has the same radio on her stock Desire (i.e. it was downloaded OTA).
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Is there any good advice on what Radios work well and what they excel at? I see quite a lot posted, but no hard information on what works best
What I would love is one that actually picks up mobile signal. Where I live, we get very poor reception, however, usually 1 bar is possible. My Desire never picks up anything whereas my old N95 8gb used to get 1 bar as does my brothers phone.
It's good enough for texts at least. Any advice on radios then?

3g and 1x icons

Ok I don't know if any has this problem but when I'm in a stock Rom I have both 3g and 1x Icons but when I flash a custom Rom I only get the 1x icon why is that it is mind boggling pleas help
I've noticed this occasionally as well, I would think that the stock ROM isn't reporting your signal strength accurately, or something like that.
You do have mobile data on, correct?
From what I read, cannot remember where, this is an issue with cyanogen. You are on 3G when data is enabled but the status icon will remain 1G. Or I have no idea what I am talking about. My phone is reporting the same btw. When I go online I use 4G or Wifi anyway. 7.0.2.1 stock PRL 01115 Baseband 2.15.00.11.19
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From what I read, cannot remember where, this is an issue with cyanogen. You are on 3G when data is enabled but the status icon will remain 1G. Or I have no idea what I am talking about. My phone is reporting the same btw. When I go online I use 4G or Wifi anyway. 7.0.2.1 stock PRL 01115 Baseband 2.15.00.11.19
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That does make sense, I had the same issue when I was on Cyanogen.
OP, as long as you don't notice a different in speed and connectivity, then it isn't really a problem, I'm assuming.
SoraX64 said:
That does make sense, I had the same issue when I was on Cyanogen.
OP, as long as you don't notice a different in speed and connectivity, then it isn't really a problem, I'm assuming.
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Then again better wait till an expert confirms it. I would like to know so I can answer it correctly later on. You could test your speeds with data on in areas you know you do/don't get 3g service and post the results.
yes data is on but if i flash a regular stock rom like the factory but rooted the 3g icon comes up at the start with no problem but if i put some of the fancy roms or any of the 2.3.3 roms i only get the 1x only i dont know why is this i flash and flash and stilll the same crap .....
well i guess no help but im on the new virus kingdom port and mann it is fricken sweet " in my peter griffin voice"
The answer
Try *#*#4636#*#*
Choose Phone Information
Set preferred network type to CDMA only
Back out, your change is saved.
You should see 3g only now, just as you would with a sense rom.

Constant Data Disconnecting

Ever since getting my phone, I've had problems with data dropping entirely every so often, but also constantly switching between 3G and H (my Sensation was always rock-solid on H as this is a good coverage area).
Yesterday I was testing the Spotify radio app which streams music. That was the first time I used the data so heavily and the data connection was dropping literally about once a minute. It seems heavy data use causes the connection to drop. Wifi is perfect with no issues at all.
A) Has anyone else run into this and figured out a solution?
B) Is this T-Mobile blocking my data for some reason? Maybe they didn't like me switching to an unlocked phone? Is there a number to dial that will reinitialize my account/connection? Or perhaps another APN I can try?
C) Or does this sound like a radio issue? Or a ROM issue?
You can look at your connection information if you open the phone dialer and enter in #*#*4636#*#*. Then press on phone information and at the very bottom you can force "H" only, so it won't switch back and forth between 3g.
You can also turn off/on the radio on the same page. Plus there's a load of connection information at the top.
This was a huge thing for Toro users, it seems.
Haven't heard as much on the Maguro side.
But if your situation is the same, it's a hardware issue.
If you flash stock (and maybe try swapping in a new SIM card) and it still does it...get it exchanged.
The switching between 3G and H is by design. T-mobile phones don't show the change but it's happening. (Marketing)
As far as data drops go. Is it completely dropping or just buffering?
El Daddy said:
The switching between 3G and H is by design. T-mobile phones don't show the change but it's happening. (Marketing)
As far as data drops go. Is it completely dropping or just buffering?
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100% dropping. All bars completely disappear and it's just left with a black blank triangle of no bars, even when I'm in an area of full 4-bar coverage. After a long while the bars reappear, and then after a while, the 3G/H comes back and data is reactivated.
And then it happens again a few minutes later.
Paul22000 said:
100% dropping. All bars completely disappear and it's just left with a black blank triangle of no bars, even when I'm in an area of full 4-bar coverage. After a long while the bars reappear, and then after a while, the 3G/H comes back and data is reactivated.
And then it happens again a few minutes later.
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What are you running and which radio?
There was a data drop issue on 4.0.4. I haven't had the problem since moving to JB
El Daddy said:
What are you running and which radio?
There was a data drop issue on 4.0.4. I haven't had the problem since moving to JB
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Rooted 4.1 JRN84D.
How do I tell my radio version? Is it i9250XXKK1?
Paul22000 said:
Rooted 4.1 JRN84D.
How do I tell my radio version? Is it i9250XXKK1?
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The radio you are running is XXKK1 which is a very old radio. Perhaps one of the first.
You should update to 4.1.1 and flash the newest XXLF1 radio.
Hopefully that will solve your issues.
El Daddy said:
The radio you are running is XXKK1 which is a very old radio. Perhaps one of the first.
You should update to 4.1.1 and flash the newest XXLF1 radio.
Hopefully that will solve your issues.
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Ah I see. Is it feasible that these issues could be caused by an old radio?
Anyway, does this 4.1.1 ROM and radio look like the right one to flash? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737849
Its definitely possible. Could be a mismatched ril issue too.
Yep that ROM and radio are correct.
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