[Q] Arc very weak zoom - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello
Is there any way to improve the camera's zoom?
it can improve a rom?
photos are very nice but the zoom is not clear and very weak
B.R.

Dont think there is a way to do that. If you want good zoom probaly better off with a actual camera
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telefan22 said:
hello
Is there any way to improve the camera's zoom?
it can improve a rom?
photos are very nice but the zoom is not clear and very weak
B.R.
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The short answer is no. Your phones camera, like most smartphone cameras only has digital zoom. This is essentially the same as cropping an image using photoshop or some other photo editing software.
If you want to be able to zoom and have crisp photos, the only option is to buy a camera with OPTICAL zoom.
As a rule I have found you are much better off ignoring zoom on your camera completely, and editing it later on, and if you do use the digital zoom feature, use as little magnification as possible.
Any software updates/changes could the algorithm slightly, and in my opinion, it rarely makes much difference, and being Sony has a digital camera/SLR arm (they also bought Minolta a while back), I would suspect they have tweaked for quality already.

I ask because I previously used the desire hd and there was a very good zoom

telefan22 said:
I ask because I previously used the desire hd and there was a very good zoom
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DHD camera is not as good as arc in the first place, and the zooming function make it worse..

I had a DHD with 2.3.4 rom and zoom was very good and clear

Take the photo and zoom afterwards with a pc or an app if zhe zoom of the cam isn't good enough for you.
Arc has the BEST camera on a mobile phone...
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Well, the .181 on 2M and 4M has good zoom

drengur said:
The short answer is no. Your phones camera, like most smartphone cameras only has digital zoom. This is essentially the same as cropping an image using photoshop or some other photo editing software.
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I agree that digital zoom is not as good as optical but it has its used on the Xperia ARC. You will actually get me details zooming in than taking a full size picture which you enlarge later on.
Try the following to test this, it will only work on motives close by. Place a book 1-2 meters away from you. Take a full size picture and then take a one where you zoom in on the book. You will actually be able to read the text on the book on the zoomed picture while the enlarged full size picture will show the book as pixelated and it is difficult to read the text.
There is no difference on motives far away between the zoomed picture and enlarged full picture.
I am not sure why the objects close by contain more details when zooming than enlarging a full picture. My best guess would be that SE has some logic buildin on the photo chip that on the zoomed picture correlate pixel readings on the sensor and not just cropping and enlarging the final picture.
Please let me know if you experience the same, I am very puzzled that the zoomed picture for objectives close to the camera contain more details than the full size picture.

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[Q] ARC camera resolution

Hello everyone!
I recently bought a Sony Ericsson Arc and the images taken by its camera look pretty good on the phone it self, but wen it comes to downloading them on PC the results are quite unexpected. the image resolution is poor 400xXXX pixels or less and size is about 600kb (same shown in astro file explorer) although its taken on 8mpx settings and same with using HDR camera. I use universal android suit (i dont know maybe i need original sofware?) The question is how do I fix that Resolution problem? what settings and where? pls help
cczr1 said:
Hello everyone!
I recently bought a Sony Ericsson Arc and the images taken by its camera look pretty good on the phone it self, but wen it comes to downloading them on PC the results are quite unexpected. the image resolution is poor 400xXXX pixels or less and size is about 600kb (same shown in astro file explorer) although its taken on 8mpx settings and same with using HDR camera. I use universal android suit (i dont know maybe i need original sofware?) The question is how do I fix that Resolution problem? what settings and where? pls help
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i don't believe hdr camera supports full resolution even if it claims it. Take a picture with the stock camera and check the resolution on that. What's universal Android suit?
Mr Patchy Patch said:
i don't believe hdr camera supports full resolution even if it claims it. Take a picture with the stock camera and check the resolution on that. What's universal Android suit?
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HDR camera does support full resolution, I have taking several pictures with both SE camera app, HDR camera and Vignette all at 8MP and compared them with 100-200% magnification, the resolution on each is exactly the same, there is absolute no difference in the details recorded.
HDR camera does after combining three pictures increase color saturation and contrast for the whole picture and fine details. This makes the pictures look like they have more details but up close it is easy to see the same amount of details and same pixel sizes.
I have decided to uninstall Vignette as it add some very weird "pixel curtain" all over the pictures which initially gives it a larger file size as it add additional pixels which is not supposed to be there. This could give the wrong impression that it contains more details which is not the case.

Nexus Camera, no widescreen/16:9 photos??

Lets put ugly black bars on the sides of all your pictures while giving you gorgeous 1080 video capture.. Okay seriously, any chance the stock camera apk can be modified to allow widescreen photo capture?
Software...limitations....for...NOW...hopefully Google will bump us up.
white2kss said:
Lets put ugly black bars on the sides of all your pictures while giving you gorgeous 1080 video capture.. Okay seriously, any chance the stock camera apk can be modified to allow widescreen photo capture?
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You mean instead of taking full 5mp photos, you want the camera app to crop the top and bottom of the photo and downscale it to 2mp? Because thats what 1080p is.
When viewing a picture on a Widescreen monitor, an HDTV or our phone's screen for that matter, 16:9 just looks better.
Anyone know if this is on the to do list, or if there is a way to do enable this on the stock camera app?
Surprised the camera doesn't default to 16:9. Most phone cameras haven't used 4:3 in a long time.
zoom in on the photo if you're bothered, I'd rather have full resolution and make full use of the 4:3 chip inside than having some cropped off.
It's as bad as the people who moan when DVDs, Blu-rays and film channels (at least here in the UK) show films properly which means there's black bars at the top and the bottom, I'd rather see the whole thing that have some edges chopped off!
Whats also interesting is if you take a picture while recording a video in 1080p or 720p for that matter, then those shots are in widescreen.
Forget which quality is better for a second and think about the fact that this will lead to having different aspect ratios for some of your pictures since theres no way to force is on the Camera shots.
I dont know whether the quality is better with widescreen or not (it sounds like not) but I think we can all agree we'd rather have the option to turn it on or off.
Hopefully it comes in an upgrade or MOD at some point.
Has anyone tried using Vignette?
Yes, Vignette seems to work well on ICS. That said, I haven't found a way to make it shoot 16:9 stills. However, it looks like Camera360 Ultimate might -- and for whatever reason, it is free in the Market as I type this.
Balthazar B said:
Yes, Vignette seems to work well on ICS. That said, I haven't found a way to make it shoot 16:9 stills. However, it looks like Camera360 Ultimate might -- and for whatever reason, it is free in the Market as I type this.
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Yeah guys, VIGNETTE works well on SGN, you ca adjust aspect ratio to 16:9.
I have just purchased this and need to try how is the quality now...
but at least it works in wide screen mode, even though the effect is more or less a zomed in pictures, but the app can save simultaneously the original 4:3 photo as well. . It would be better to have a native 16:9 camera..
cheers
thomas
dindindores said:
Yeah guys, VIGNETTE works well on SGN, you ca adjust aspect ratio to 16:9.
I have just purchased this and need to try how is the quality now...
but at least it works in wide screen mode, even though the effect is more or less a zomed in pictures, but the app can save simultaneously the original 4:3 photo as well. . It would be better to have a native 16:9 camera..
cheers
thomas
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What ROM are you using and what settings in Vignette to get it working? On my SGN it won't even refocus, it crashes as soon as I touch the screen and I get this message:
VIE encountered an error.
Runtime error: java.lang.
UnsupportedOperationException
I sent the dev an email ages ago but haven't received a response.
I've tried rebooting, un-installing, re-installing, full wipe, turning force GPU rendering both on and off and nothing seems to work :,(
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Most camera-chips and camera's are 4:3, including on high-end DSLRs.
If you want it to have a widescreen look, either zoom in or just crop it. It's not that hard.
josteink said:
Most camera-chips and camera's are 4:3, including on high-end DSLRs.
If you want it to have a widescreen look, either zoom in or just crop it. It's not that hard.
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Yeah, and this is limitation for capturing normal widescreen photos. For example, my previous xperia neo has 8M camera and it native sensor has 4:3 (3264*2448) or total ~8 million pixels. But it software camera has 16:9 mode which crop top and bottom lines for 16:9 (3264*1839) or total ~6 million pixels. At the end, our gnex camera has 4:3 (2592*1944) or ~5 million pixels. For cropping this to 16:9 we'll have only 1458 for height. This is totally loss information for such a sensors.
If your such a camera nazi then crop the pics to 16:9. But i agree with the people that say why downgrade quality , im sure if they did you would start a thread on nexus camera not detailed photos
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josteink said:
Most camera-chips and camera's are 4:3, including on high-end DSLRs.
If you want it to have a widescreen look, either zoom in or just crop it. It's not that hard.
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It's actually 3:2. Only Olympus produces 4:3 DSLRs.
Back to the main topic, if you want to capture somewhat widescreen images OP, try Camera ICS.
It doesn't do 16:9 but 3:2, at least. It also offers various improvement.
IceBean said:
It's actually 3:2. Only Olympus produces 4:3 DSLRs.
Back to the main topic, if you want to capture somewhat widescreen images OP, try Camera ICS.
It doesn't do 16:9 but 3:2, at least. It also offers various improvement.
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Is the Nexus's sensor has the aspect ratio 3:2?
helgi.ua said:
Is the Nexus's sensor has the aspect ratio 3:2?
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No, it's 4:3 but there's a setting in Camera ICS that automatically crops 4:3 images to 3:2.
By doing so, you lost about 0.5mp (from 5.0to 4.5mp) which isn't a big deal.
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And guess what? Camera ICS also supports 16:9 (3.8mp) format.
Camera Mx, 16:9 aspect ratio
Camer JB +
Install Camera JB+ from the app store. It gives the option of Widescreen (16:9) pictures but you have to compromise with MP (3.8MP)

[Q] Camera problems

Hello!
I need some assistance regarding the HOX stock camera app.
You see, the photos i tace with the One X turns out really bad.
My old (old, old, old) iPhone 3GS kicks this one's ass.
The images turns out grainy and low res. It's set to 8mpx and all settings are stock.
Now i thought it was a hardware problem but when trying other camera apps souch as Camera Zoom FX they turn out pretty great.
The stock camera app pictures is about 1.5-1.7 mb while the Camera Zoom fx are at a natural ca 3.5mb.
Photo taken with stock camera app: 8mpx: http://oi45.tinypic.com/n2odar.jpg
Photo taken with Camera Zoom FX, 8mpx: http://oi48.tinypic.com/i5ver8.jpg
HOX stock: http://oi49.tinypic.com/21dizcx.jpg
Camera Zoom FX: http://oi48.tinypic.com/315cvg0.jpg
What could be causing this problem, or should I simply return it?
Do you have the stock camera app 8mp set to 16:9 or 4:3 format? I noticed with my own testing that the 16:9 format uses less of the sensor and you dont get full 8mp images resulting in lower image size. The 4:3 format is getting me 2.8mb+ image size.
undegaard said:
Hello!
I need some assistance regarding the HOX stock camera app.
You see, the photos i tace with the One X turns out really bad.
...
Now i thought it was a hardware problem but when trying other camera apps souch as Camera Zoom FX they turn out pretty great.
...
What could be causing this problem, or should I simply return it?
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You seem to have already answered your first question, and as to whether to return it or not because the stock camera app over compresses images, well, up to you.
Stock cam app compresses so you can have burst mode. Third party apps don't have the same speed as stock camera, but compensates with quality. And no, even with the stock app, the 3GS camera is worse.
harlz: I've tried both. 4:3 gives me a slightly better image.
I'ts strange thoug. Yesterday I rebooted the phone and took a picture, the screen was black for about 3 sek and then it took a photo that was just amazingly good. I took about tree more great pictures that ended up on ca 4mb. But now. I'm down to about 2mb and the images just looks like crap.
What could be causing this? Is anyone experiencing something like this?
ArmedandDangerous said:
Stock cam app compresses so you can have burst mode. Third party apps don't have the same speed as stock camera, but compensates with quality. And no, even with the stock app, the 3GS camera is worse.
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Thanks for the help! Or...
Anyway, 3gs photo: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...54128967643_649942642_9781743_388921598_n.jpg
not that superdifferance
undegaard said:
harlz: I've tried both. 4:3 gives me a slightly better image.
I'ts strange thoug. Yesterday I rebooted the phone and took a picture, the screen was black for about 3 sek and then it took a photo that was just amazingly good. I took about tree more great pictures that ended up on ca 4mb. But now. I'm down to about 2mb and the images just looks like crap.
What could be causing this? Is anyone experiencing something like this?
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Sounds like you were using the HDR function of the camera?
undegaard said:
Thanks for the help! Or...
Anyway, 3gs photo: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...54128967643_649942642_9781743_388921598_n.jpg
not that superdifferance
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Well..your image is out of focus so -_-
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach.../1/8/2/4/3/uploadfromtaptalk1335072169687.jpg
Jummy said:
Sounds like you were using the HDR function of the camera?
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I wish I was. But if you look at the picture Its not. Niether is any of the other bad pictures. I made a thread at swedroid and people are experiencing this as well.

lg g4 pixelated camera anyone else notice this?

when I take a photo then view it and zoom in, the photo becomes pixelated and does the same when i viewed it in photoshop never did this on my s4 any suggestions please.....
What settings did u mess with ? Or auto everything?
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Any photo is made up of pixels, so when you zoom, you will see those pixels of course, it's expected.
So I'm confused what you mean. Are you saying that when you zoomed into the S4 pictures, you never saw any pixels? That's impossible!
Perhaps it's just different software or tools you happen to be using, maybe you somehow are able to zoom further into the G4 pictures so that you can finally see the pixels, but when you used the S4 you just never got close enough to start seeing the pixels? But trust me, every single digital picture has pixels, you can't avoid it.
Are you using the correct resolution?
You can't really change the G4's photo resolution, at least not using the included Camera app. So it's unlikely the OP is shooting at, say, 2MP rather than 16MP.
But as KingFatty said, every photo will become pixelated if you zoom in far enough, that's just the nature of the beast.
The only "exception" I can think of is if you are using the digital zoom on the G4. It handles this a bit strangely, IMO.
On my last phone, as I recall, it would save digitally-zoomed picture as a lower-resolution file, reflecting what the sensor actually captured.
But with the G4, the picture will still be saved at the normal resolution (5312x2988, if shooting in 16:9). But in reality, if zoomed fully to 8X, it only captured 1/8 of the normal area on the image sensor. It only captured what was at the middle of the image sensor, then it stretched that out, "pretending" it captured 5312x2988. When in reality, what it captured is much lower resolution.
So a digitally-zoomed picture will look much worse than normal, when you zoom in using Photoshop, etc. It'a *already* been digitally zoomed in once, when it was saved. If using the digital zoom, you may as well just take a normal picture, then crop it down later to just what you want, it's the same end result.
This is why I never use digital zoom on anything. Cropping the final picture will always give you a better result than digital zoom since the digital zoom also effectively cancels any image stabilization in use.
How far area you zooming in? If you look at a photo from a DSLR at 100%+ you easily see the pixels and you can see how soft the photo is.

DEPTH CAM as NORMAL CAM. Can we use this for 3D picture/video?

Someone found a way to use depth cam as normal cam that took 13mp image https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...miui-stock-camera-portrait-mode-dual-t3816069
now, can we use this knowledge to create or mod a camera app to take 3d picture/video?
theoretically, the easiest way should be simply allowing both camera to take photo / record video simultaneously. This will allow very easy post on a computer to merge them into one 3d picture or 3d video.
or as a workaround, maybe.. simply open https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...miui-stock-camera-portrait-mode-dual-t3816069 AND google camera on split-view, and initiate recording/take a pic?
i cant test it as im still waiting 100 hours left for unlock.
thankyou
It's no use because of interpolation. Our depth cam is 5MPx, so if there is a real way to shat 3D pictures they will be half-blured because the 5mpx picture will be expanded to match 13mpx.
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It's no use because of interpolation. Our depth cam is 5MPx, so if there is a real way to shat 3D pictures they will be half-blured because the 5mpx picture will be expanded to match 13mpx.
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the reverse should work then, 13mpx scaled to 5mpx

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