[Q] Pogo pins on the side, what are they for? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Any clue what kind of device\dock the galaxy nexus will be able to connect to with those three metal connectors on the side of the phone?

a desktop dock was shown in the presentation last night.
eric b

Its mainly for charging isn't it?

Probably the dock have MicroUSB, Audio 3.5", and HDMI output.

hum with the all in one os I hope this means that docking your galaxy nexus to a tv makes it run like a google tv and that we can get a padphone-like accessory. One of the tings I love about android is there is virtually no reason for me to dock my phone to my computer, I can do 99% of the things I want over data, wifi or bluetooth (most of it without any need for me to interact with the device)... it would be a shame if they put those pins there just for that.

The Pogo Pins are for a Docking Station.

julienrl said:
Any clue what kind of device\dock the galaxy nexus will be able to connect to with those three metal connectors on the side of the phone?
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desktop docking station and barometer

julienrl said:
Any clue what kind of device\dock the galaxy nexus will be able to connect to with those three metal connectors on the side of the phone?
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I hope there's Car dock as well as the Pogo desk dock - just like the Nexus One.

only problem is... that in the presentation it docked on the hand side of the phone. But the pogo connections are shown to be on the right hand side of the phone where the power button is.
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/find-the-error-position-for-the-pins-of-the-galaxy-nexus-docking-station-not-yet-conclusive/ << See more here
What the hell is going on there? I'm figuring the dock at the time of launch was fictional and 3d generated and they overlooked this mistake.
As it stands having the pogo connection points on the right hand side is kind of dumb, as it orientates the device in landscape in the opposite direction to pretty much every single other landscape dock on the market.
Not only that if the phone does dock on the right hand side it will cover up the power button, which in most android phones is what powers up the touch screen. So they must have a solution there, I imagine it will just mean the screen will never turn off.
Really hope they sort this out properly, as this is why i have hung on to my N1 for so long, and I've been hang out for a next gen, 'wireless' charged phone.

SCOOP: the real galaxy DOCK
here it is people.
I am convinced this is it. Pogo pins and the notch out for the power button. Its exactly like in the Galaxy launch, but minus the dodgy 3D/photoshop render. It now docks on the right hand side, as expected from the placement of the pogo plugs.
link
bit.ly/rCD2xz

sifntsifnt said:
here it is people.
I am convinced this is it. Pogo pins and the notch out for the power button. Its exactly like in the Galaxy launch, but minus the dodgy 3D/photoshop render. It now docks on the right hand side, as expected from the placement of the pogo plugs.
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bit.ly/rCD2xz
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That looks correct, yes. Good find.

Hi
Where I can bay this dock any idea in uk??

Nowhere officially yet. Give it another week or two.
Sent from my samsung gt i9250 which is in the wrong country.

Do we have any information on the pogo pin outs, if the system is intelligent or dumb. The images appear to show that the pogo pin car down handles charging and audio out?
Eg - I want to look into a DIY solution.

Pogo pins.
What an annoying internet coined name.

ericshmerick said:
Pogo pins.
What an annoying internet coined name.
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Not Internet-coined. POGO is a trademark used since 1965.
http://www.ectinfo.com/aboutus/default.cfm?exec=view&cat=hist

Chirality said:
Not Internet-coined. POGO is a trademark used since 1965.
http://www.ectinfo.com/aboutus/default.cfm?exec=view&cat=hist
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Nice article with 99% irrelevant information. Thanks.
When were these connectors officially called pogo pins? Did I miss something or are we assuming that's what they should be labeled as?

ericshmerick said:
Nice article with 99% irrelevant information. Thanks.
When were these connectors officially called pogo pins? Did I miss something or are we assuming that's what they should be labeled as?
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Since 1965, Everett Charles Technologies, 'ECT', has taken a leadership role in the development of advanced technology board test products holding over 100 patents. Originating with the company's signature POGO® spring contacts, ECT has ...
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Is this not clear enough?

Anyone have any idea on the pinout of these pins? Wondering The possibility of making my own stands. I had read somewhere that different voltages on one of the pins was used to simulate car/home...

fiveohhh said:
Anyone have any idea on the pinout of these pins? Wondering The possibility of making my own stands. I had read somewhere that different voltages on one of the pins was used to simulate car/home...
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I'd love to find this out too...maybe someone who has a dock and a voltmeter could fill us in?

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Landscape dock/car dock same for GSM & LTE?

Anyone know if these accessories work for both models? The dimensions are so close that it might. It seems implied that they will but I haven't read anything to confirm this. Cases are a totally different matter of course.
A number of people here have said that LTE cases fit the GSM phone fine.
I would be VERY surprised if the accessories didn't work with each other. From a design standpoint it would be very easy to make them interchangeable and it'd just be wasteful and expensive not to.
Knolly said:
A number of people here have said that LTE cases fit the GSM phone fine.
I would be VERY surprised if the accessories didn't work with each other. From a design standpoint it would be very easy to make them interchangeable and it'd just be wasteful and expensive not to.
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Well the question is whether the docks can be made to accept the slightly thicker LTE version & the GSM version, and also line up 3 pogo pins to the three gold contacts, and firmly hold both models (at least for the car mount this is important).
Does anyone have an answer for this? I am curious too. I want to buy the verizon car dock for my GSM Nexus, but only if it will fit properly.
I stopped at Verizon store near my house and put my GSM phone in the car dock with out issue. Didn't check to see if the pins lined up but imagine they would.
The GSM phone also fits into the side pouch with kickstand that Verizon carriers, including all the cutouts for pins, headphones usb and such
AverageCanadian said:
I stopped at Verizon store near my house and put my GSM phone in the car dock with out issue. Didn't check to see if the pins lined up but imagine they would.
The GSM phone also fits into the side pouch with kickstand that Verizon carriers, including all the cutouts for pins, headphones usb and such
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They have the car docks in store?
HideYoKids said:
They have the car docks in store?
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Same question here. Can anyone confirm this?
sublimnl said:
Same question here. Can anyone confirm this?
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I have not been to the Verizon store to confirm, but i read somewhere online that someone got the car dock and some other Galaxy Nexus accessories from the Verizon store. they might not have them out, but if you ask a rep, they can probably get them from the back for you. YMMV depending on the store though.
couple questions.. if someone can confirm that Verizon is indeed selling the car docks, can you tell me how much they're selling it for and most importantly if it has a slot for the power button? out of all the pics I've seen, its not clear whether you're able to hit the power button while docked
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HideYoKids said:
They have the car docks in store?
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sublimnl said:
Same question here. Can anyone confirm this?
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spovat said:
couple questions.. if someone can confirm that Verizon is indeed selling the car docks, can you tell me how much they're selling it for and most importantly if it has a slot for the power button? out of all the pics I've seen, its not clear whether you're able to hit the power button while docked
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I can guarantee the Verizon store on Military Rd in Niagara Falls NY has the card dock. If I remember correctly it is 39.95 which made me laugh because in Canada Bell is selling the dock for $89.95
I will likely be going to the states again this weekend and if I do, I will try to remember to stop by the Verizon store again and check out the card dock again about the power button.
BE CAREFUL, there are reasons why the the Verizon car dock ($39.95 vise $89.95) is cheaper than other places.
I just looked at the Verizon car dock. It does not take advantage or the pogo pins. It has a cutout on the bottom of the dock for plugging in the micro USB, into actual phone each time you put the phone in dock:-( There is no USB port on the side of the mount.
Repeat it is different than the style than what I have seen pictures from Samsung.
I know what your going to say and sadly I did not think to take any pictures.
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Lightning N1 said:
BE CAREFUL, there are reasons why the the Verizon car dock ($39.95 vise $89.95) is cheaper than other places.
I just looked at the Verizon car dock. It does not take advantage or the pogo pins. It has a cutout on the bottom of the dock for plugging in the micro USB, into actual phone each time you put the phone in dock:-( There is no USB port on the side of the mount.
Repeat it is different than the style than what I have seen pictures from Samsung.
I know what your going to say and sadly I did not think to take any pictures.
Sent from my SSGN
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thanks for clearing that up. Wasn't planning on getting the Verizon dock anways. Sorry to the others whos hope I may have gotten up.
The GMS dock is more expensive because you can plug in usb power & 3.5mm audio permanently into the base near the windshield. The cheap Verizon part must have the cable dangling and plug USB in every time. Might as well buy generic car mount.
Again Verizon pushes out garbage at a consumer price point they can increase profit on.
Please post if you find you can run power/audio on GSM mount with the thicker Verizon phone.
I can also confirm that the dock Verizon is selling is a basic shell. No integrate USB and Headphone jack. In fact, I'll be returning it tomorrow, the headphone jack is not cut out enough for my car's jack even.
LTE nexus fits in GSM dock?
Dam
Bell canada wins !
But 89.99 too much . Anyone selling the gsm dock online ? (Uk?)
erolfox said:
The GMS dock is more expensive because you can plug in usb power & 3.5mm audio permanently into the base near the windshield. The cheap Verizon part must have the cable dangling and plug USB in every time. Might as well buy generic car mount.
Again Verizon pushes out garbage at a consumer price point they can increase profit on.
Please post if you find you can run power/audio on GSM mount with the thicker Verizon phone.
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I found this out the hard way today as well. Just a cheap shell and won't even engage any car dock settings. Returning it tomorrow and would love to find something that does work with the pins so it knows its in a dock.
Hope the media dock the rep ordered me today doesn't have the same problem.
I definitely want the gsm car dock for my vzw gn, but you can use tags and NFC to push it into car dock mode. I will be using these for many things.
I heard mention of the gsm docks not coming until january. Not sure if that's the case or not, but they are sure hard to find.
HTCpedia has the car dock with pins for $40 and is expected to be in stock on the 29th of this month for anyone interested.
jamontoast1291 said:
HTCpedia has the car dock with pins for $40 and is expected to be in stock on the 29th of this month for anyone interested.
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Link? I searched on their site and didn't find it..
http://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?...Y&q=car+dock&x=0&y=0&dispatch=products.search
pentafive said:
Link? I searched on their site and didn't find it..
http://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?...Y&q=car+dock&x=0&y=0&dispatch=products.search
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http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vehicle-mount.html
The pictures and the description disagree. The pictures and price are of the crappy mount. The description describes the good mount, I'm going to assume its the crappy one because 2/3 points to the **** one.

The three pins on the phone...

What's the three "pins", dots or whatever you want to call it on the right side of the phone, what does it do? Is it like a dock station or something?
They are supposed to be used in conjunction with a car dock or desk dock to leave the end of the phone open (Think about our phones in a dock, sideways, in your car being plugged into the charging port) the problem is, is that Samsung doesn't see enough customer want and therefor is not currently planning on making said accessories.
Well I'll be damned, just found this posted:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-D1F8BEBSTD
miketoasty said:
They are supposed to be used in conjunction with a car dock or desk dock to leave the end of the phone open (Think about our phones in a dock, sideways, in your car being plugged into the charging port) the problem is, is that []bSamsung doesn't see enough customer want[/b] and therefor is not currently planning on making said accessories.
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Could have something to do with the extortionate prices they wanted for them.
£49.99 for a dock? I expect at least a spare charger to come with it. However, this was not to be the case.
£49.99 for a piece of shaped plastic, with some die-cast weights inside, and 3 copper charging connectors. That's value for you
oscillik said:
Could have something to do with the extortionate prices they wanted for them.
£49.99 for a dock? I expect at least a spare charger to come with it. However, this was not to be the case.
£49.99 for a piece of shaped plastic, with some die-cast weights inside, and 3 copper charging connectors. That's value for you
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If it makes you feel better, the US version for Verizon is $49.99 but doesn't use said connectors, it's just a piece of cheap plastic with holes for cables.
Eeeessshh, that's a steep price. Audio out isn't a desired feature to me. I'll just stick with my free one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497881
good day.
retskrad said:
What's the three "pins", dots or whatever you want to call it on the right side of the phone, what does it do? Is it like a dock station or something?
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Look up the nexus one car and desk dock to see. That phone had the same 3 docking pins.
It sucks that we just recently found out that samsung cancelled production for these though...
RogerPodacter said:
Look up the nexus one car and desk dock to see. That phone had the same 3 docking pins.
It sucks that we just recently found out that samsung cancelled production for these though...
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That sucks. Wanted to buy both.
I was just wondering if I could ask a potentially naive but somewhat related question.
How do the three pins work? I'm assuming you'd need to use two for charging (+ve and -ve)? How do get everything else through just one pin? Have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Thanks, Rowan.
They would sell so many more accessories if they didn't try and pork people do bad.
Samsung canceled the car dock?
God I hope Motorola makes the next Nexus. Samsung is the worst.
chopper the dog said:
Eeeessshh, that's a steep price. Audio out isn't a desired feature to me. I'll just stick with my free one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497881
good day.
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Lol, great idea to combine 2 technologies
the outer pins are for charging the inner pin is for grounding i believe, i don't think it has audio capabilities
miketoasty said:
They are supposed to be used in conjunction with a car dock or desk dock to leave the end of the phone open (Think about our phones in a dock, sideways, in your car being plugged into the charging port) the problem is, is that Samsung doesn't see enough customer want and therefor is not currently planning on making said accessories.
Well I'll be damned, just found this posted:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-D1F8BEBSTD
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Holy **** $90, that's highway robbery right there...
miketoasty said:
They are supposed to be used in conjunction with a car dock or desk dock to leave the end of the phone open (Think about our phones in a dock, sideways, in your car being plugged into the charging port) the problem is, is that Samsung doesn't see enough customer want and therefor is not currently planning on making said accessories.
Well I'll be damned, just found this posted:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-D1F8BEBSTD
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So they make it available...but make it cost an arm and a leg...sigh...

My head hurts from slamming it into my desk over 900 data connection location...

...I know as a community most are not fond of a proprietary connector on a device.
I ride the fence ont hat one.
What I think we can agree on though, is that data and charge cables should not be on the tops of devices as this makes for incredibly stupid dock and mounting options in vehicles.
Am I wrong? This is sort of a big deal to me. I have been dealing with Samsung Focus data on top and it is awful.
If you have a dock, ok I see your point. No dock, don't care...top bottom side...who cares.
How do you connect in your car? This is my major area of issue. For me it is a power cable and stereo plug right now. Wish it was on the bottom of my phone, could at least fabricate a easy-in, easy-out method.
Thresher said:
How do you connect in your car? This is my major area of issue. For me it is a power cable and stereo plug right now. Wish it was on the bottom of my phone, could at least fabricate a easy-in, easy-out method.
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I personally love and prefer the top micro usb. So that when I am at my desk I don't have a cable curving around the bottom or side. I don't have a dock or a stand, so as far as laying flat on a desktop I am looking forward to it.
my car has Bluetooth, and I don't see a problem with plugging it in via the top in my car phone mount. Much better than a side connection imo.
jettrue said:
I personally love and prefer the top micro usb. So that when I am at my desk I don't have a cable curving around the bottom or side. I don't have a dock or a stand, so as far as laying flat on a desktop I am looking forward to it.
my car has Bluetooth, and I don't see a problem with plugging it in via the top in my car phone mount. Much better than a side connection imo.
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I totally agree, Docks can be made to work no matter where the port is. I believe the Lumia 800 has a car dock. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_u8qi2lRkQ&feature=youtu.be
Seed 2.0 said:
I totally agree, Docks can be made to work no matter where the port is. I believe the Lumia 800 has a car dock. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_u8qi2lRkQ&feature=youtu.be
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I already have a dock for the 900. It comes standard equipment in my dodge durango. 1 of 8 cup holders.
alodar1 said:
I already have a dock for the 900. It comes standard equipment in my dodge durango. 1 of 8 cup holders.
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This, exactly.
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Official Samsung Desktop Dock Internals!

Here it is!
Things we now know for sure.
1. It Does not have BT.
2. It uses SPDIF out of the middle pin.
3. It has a TOSLINK 3.5mm connector for line out/ digital optical audio out.
4. It uses a PULSUS PSM702 chip and a COREDRIVER GC89C510A0 microcontroller
buy it?
now does anybody knows where i can buy the piece in picture number 3??
lionheart7282 said:
now does anybody knows where i can buy the piece in picture number 3??
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That would make this DIY even better!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493797
Looks like that chip connected to the pogo dock is a coreriver SC.
http://www.coreriver.com/product-lines/top_CORERIVERmcu.html
I can make out GC89C??? so probably a midas 2.2 or 2.4 programmable microprocessor.
Looks like we will need to follow the lead from here to get a dock working properly.
Hey, Could you send me some higher resolution pictures of the board? I am specifically interested in the small chip near were the pogo pin cable gets attached to the main board. Or the numbers off of it would be good
Also, do you have access to an oscilloscope or logic analyzer? I have been trying to get a dock to play with myself, but it is taking some time
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Hey, Could you send me some higher resolution pictures of the board? I am specifically interested in the small chip near were the pogo pin cable gets attached to the main board. Or the numbers off of it would be good
Also, do you have access to an oscilloscope or logic analyzer? I have been trying to get a dock to play with myself, but it is taking some time
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I tried reading the all thee numbers off it but it is obscured by what looks like a black marker dot. All I can read is GC89C5, I believe there are at least 3 more numbers/letters.
I do not have access to either an oscilloscope or logic analyzer.
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EDIT: After a closer look and some better lighting we have a GC89C510A0
Sorry, I meant the one near the mark "U9" above VBUS +5V
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Sorry, I meant the one near the mark "U9" above VBUS +5V
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It reads 0524P, Looks like a ESD chip.
If any of you actually make one of the diy versions you should sell them since i won't buy samsungs way to overpriced
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What are you using for your pogo pin contacts?

Happened to come across this business card holder in the store and it holds the Galaxy Nexus perfectly. The mesh spacing is also almost the same width as the pogo connections, so I'm looking into modding this into a pogo dock.
http://www.officemax.com/office-furniture/desk-accessories-organizers/product-prod2980161
Just wondering what everyone has been using for their pogo pin contacts? I've seen mentions of guitar string, push pins, and screws from other threads here. I plan to solder the ends of the USB wires to the contact, then hot glue them in place on the holder (which also will insulate them from the mesh so I don't get any shorts).
I'm also thinking of making a slightly raised section on the right side that lines up with the power button so that I can push the phone down slightly to hit power, since I don't want the screen on constantly while in the dock.
you might want to check here for info on enabling the middle pin to get AC charge and Desk/Car mode.
As for docks, I'm using a case, so i'm going to start work this week on moding my case to make pins accessible from the outside.
Pogo pins from yokowo, lined up with the official stand/extra battery charger.
Is there anyway to get these in the US? I'm not near their 2 stores here and I don't see anything about ordering online. I'd prefer to use something like this that's actually made for it rather than have to ghetto rig something
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Is there anyway to get these in the US? I'm not near their 2 stores here and I don't see anything about ordering online. I'd prefer to use something like this that's actually made for it rather than have to ghetto rig something
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I think ghetto rigging something is the only way to go with the pogo contacts. There arent many accessories that make use of the contacts and dont think Samsung or anyone else is going to be coming out with anything new as newer phones come out. I hope as it seems like it is an awesome way to charge the device but think you have to check out the DIY sticky thread at the top of this forum to get better ideas. GL

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