Anyone know how much space for apps? Is it still divided like 1 GB for apps and the rest for storage?
Is it usb file system? Or different one like 3.x?
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If it's anything like honeycomb, the complete internal memory is /data and the /sdcard is "emulated" on /data via fuse. The memory is no longer divided and the complete available memory can be used for either apps or user data.
I read that honeycomb uses MTP, Media Transfer Protocol.
Not sure if USB is supported
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I'm tired of been Google it this for days, it is even possible to use the internal memory as phone memory of may be partition it as a single one I dont use it anyway I have my 16 gb sd card and is just wasted memory
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if is possible to use the internal memory as phone/system memory
magikhands said:
if is possible to use the internal memory as phone/system memory
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I think there's a way to use it in a sort of apps2SD style. I wouldn't suggest it though because the eMMC used in the phone is slower than the SDcard and must share bandwidth with the system.
yeah i know what you mean, but the phone itself has 7ish gb of flash memory (total of 8gb) that dedicate 1gb to the system (746mb usable) so instead of been just there is there any way to use them as part of the system (as right now my phone sees 2 sd card the physical one (16gb) and the internal 6ish gb) this last one I don't use it at all so my question is is there any way to partion it the system one to be able to use the total 8gb internal flash memory?
Same way Motorola Droid X Does
Yes, edit the vold.fstab file in /system/etc and switch the last two lines. Specifically the the "auto" and beyond and the "3" and beyond. Leave what's before the auto and the 3 on the last two lines.
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yeah i know what you mean, but the phone itself has 7ish gb of flash memory (total of 8gb) that dedicate 1gb to the system (746mb usable) so instead of been just there is there any way to use them as part of the system (as right now my phone sees 2 sd card the physical one (16gb) and the internal 6ish gb) this last one I don't use it at all so my question is is there any way to partion it the system one to be able to use the total 8gb internal flash memory?
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I think the app NotEnoughSpace will do that for you. Or more to the point it will allow you to use some of that space for the /data/data partition which on the Dinc is allocated to 150MB and is responsible for the "Application out of space" errors people get all the time.
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Yes, edit the vold.fstab file in /system/etc and switch the last two lines. Specifically the the "auto" and beyond and the "3" and beyond. Leave what's before the auto and the 3 on the last two lines.
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That just mounts emmc as sd and sd as emmc. I think what hes asking is if there is a way to dedicate more than 1gb of the memory to the system out of the 7gb free. So in other words out of 8 total gb he wants 7gb to be dedicated to the system and 1gb for emmc storage.
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That just mounts emmc as sd and sd as emmc. I think what hes asking is if there is a way to dedicate more than 1gb of the memory to the system out of the 7gb free. So in other words out of 8 total gb he wants 7gb to be dedicated to the system and 1gb for emmc storage.
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+1 on this as well.I just store important stuff on there which is nowhere near 1gb used. 700 some mb is just not enough for me.
dyetheskin said:
+1 on this as well.I just store important stuff on there which is nowhere near 1gb used. 700 some mb is just not enough for me.
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There has to be a way to do it i just have no clue how. But i would love to have more space for system.
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notenoughspace is useful for moving what's in /data/data so there's no more FC's and warnings when it gets low based on the old 150mb and under. all my media and storage of files is on a 16gb sd so I'm hardly using the emmc. once this is figured out I'll reset my /data/setup based on how much more space we can allocate for more apps outside the initial 1gb
update: after playing with "NES" and moving certain apps one by one to avoid problems I nearly have almost 120mb freed up in data/data and notice some increase in performance unless my eyes are fooling me
any news on this? I'd love to create more program memory out of the emmc
Advantages and disadvamtages? What are they?
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Niall
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From my days on Desire, I found D2EXT much better cos ALL of the app was moved and the system was tricked into thinking the EXT part of the memory card was actually the internal memory (NAND). For some strange reason there was only few roms that had it (hence why i was on MIUI on my desire).
Don't understand the Xperia Play forum, very disorganised, gonna use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374061 to move my apps to SD card. Defo want more apps, hate this running out of space!!!!
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Advantages and disadvamtages? What are they?
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Niall
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Basically the use of having an ext partition in your sdcard in the 1st place is our device's very poor internal storage(400mb) and the system is already taking up about half of it.
If you notice other devices with high internal storage as default (8gb, 16, 32gb like Galaxy S, SII, Note, Etc.,) doesnt even bother having it, even though its still possible.
If youre installing some user apps and its frustrating because you cant move it to SD card via settings menu, its because the app wants you to install it to the internal memory,
as they “believe” the app wouldn’t work in your SD card. If youre using a higher internal storage smartphone this isn’t much an issue to you, but if youre struggling for space,
this is quite annoying.
So the use of an ext-partition in your sd card is needed for those apps unmovable via the “normal way”.
Some 3rd party apps such as Link2sd(my personal favourite), Simple2Ext(CM7 rom), Apps2Sd, and many more out there will make use of this partition
These tools will “fool” your system in linking those user apps to your internal memory where in reality they’re moving it into your ext-partition, which is basically to your sd card also.
Take note that some apps though(well, not much) are not functional if they’re in the ext partition. In my experience only 2 apps failed to work, Beautiful Widgets and Minecraft pocket edition. I don’t know about others since
almost all apps seem to function well in the ext partition.
Not only that, some apps also(such as titanium backup) can convert a system app to a user app, so you can move it to your sd card using Link2Sd! But I wouldn’t recommend it though, I’m reading a lot of threads here
which system apps are safe to transfer/freeze/delete, so I have some system apps converted to user and now on my ext partition. Sweet.
Hope Ive helped.
Can I second noojster on Link2SD. Both minecraft and beautiful widgets work fine for me. Jelly Defense doesn't seem to like it though. Only one I have found so far.
Ok, so I understand the whole 2GB's System Storage & 11.something Internal Storage that somehow make up 16GB right?
I bought a 32 GB micro SD card that is virtualy not even being used by the phone. I have enough space on the 2gb portion for all of my apps, my problem is that whenever I download an app like GTA3, Six Guns, or Modern Warfare it saves all the date files on the 11gb Internal instead of the 32GB micro SD.
This is so dumb, I have already filled the 11gb's with so much app data and I wanted to know if there is a workaround or something, maby disable the 11GB's Internal storage so that I can have 32gbs for all the data dump. Anybody had this problem???
Its very annoying right, I cant get link2sd to work either because of the way this s2 is partitioned. Depending on what ROM or version Android your running you might be able to unmount internal sd in storage options, or maybe try the data bind method thats somewhere in these forums.
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bump...also interested in a solution for this.
Me too
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Yes. It is very annoying I know how you feel.
Hi!
As I understand the Xperia S has a huge internal memory of 32GB, but this is parted into two partitions: One for Apps (known as /data on my HTC Desire) and one for all kinds of user data (/sdcard).
Right?
I know I can move most parts of most apps to /sdcard with internal functions. But not all apps.
So I would like to have more space for apps - is there anything like HBOOT / http://alpharev.nl to repartition the internal memory for the XS? Anything to make the app partition e.g. 5GB instead of 2GB?
Or: Is there any custom rom which uses the whole internal memory at once with no extra partition mounted to /sdcard? As I understand, this is the way google wants to handle this in ICS. One big internal memory for all purposes.
First, there is a SD card, a data one, a system one, a cache one, boot and maybe some obscure ones. Second, as I'm aware, no known way to increase it. And you don't need a huge partition. You can have a hell lot of apps with 2 GB. The data goes to SD card anyway.
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And you don't need a huge partition. You can have a hell lot of apps with 2 GB. The data goes to SD card anyway.
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to be honest, I am not sure about this.
At the moment I have a Desire with /data 1,5GB (via ext4 partition). I have only 200MB(!) left!
I have no big games on the phones. Some apps are moved to sd, additional. And there are no many big ones on my phone.
e.g. Facebook has 50MB and cannot be moved. G+ 30MB and I want to use the widget, so it is not moved. Amazon App Shop 30MB, cannot be moved. wetter.com 20MB and this is after moving!
And these are all of the huge apps on my Desire with only 200MB free. the other apps are odds and ends.
So, projected to the XS I would have 700MB free in the moment. And there are many apps I had to delete on my Desire and I want do install them. e.g. the Simpsons game 100MB and cannot be moved ...
/data 233MB free of 1511MB:
/data/app 426MB
/data/dalvik-cache 387MB
/data/data 300MB
/data/app_s 97MB
I, sometimes get to go through my apps list, I look at each one of them, and think: Do I really need this app? I can't uninstall it and download when I need it again?
It may help you.
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hm, this sounds like shortage management. And when I by a new phone I do not want to do shortage management, particularly on a phone with 32GB.
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But seriously: my smartphone is my digital Swiss army knife. I do not want to think about "do I need this app the next week?" And even worse "there was an app long time ago which would help me now, but which one from the bunch of similar named app was the one?"
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hm, this sounds like shortage management. And when I by a new phone I do not want to do shortage management, particularly on a phone with 32GB.
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But seriously: my smartphone is my digital Swiss army knife. I do not want to think about "do I need this app the next week?" And even worse "there was an app long time ago which would help me now, but which one from the bunch of similar named app was the one?"
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I get it... Well. I'm running out of options right now... Maybe move some apps to system? Needs root, tough
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dont know if this is what youre looking for:
well for storage you have 2gig phone memory and 25.80 internal memory,
all of the apps installed on your phone if you didnt move to sd will go to the phone memory which is 2gig,
all of the datas,obb files,pictures,movies,etc.. will be loaded on internal memory,
so the 2gig memory on your phone will be big enough for all your apps, meaning only the .apk files are stored on phone memory
and not the data.
Well, the 16gb internal storage would definitely not be enough for a tablet... Is there any way to reverse the internal and the external storage using Xposed? And what kind of format on the sd card should I use, FAT32 or exFAT? Thank you!
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Well, the 16gb internal storage would definitely not be enough for a tablet... Is there any way to reverse the internal and the external storage using Xposed? And what kind of format on the sd card should I use, FAT32 or exFAT? Thank you!
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No, but there are apps you can use to extend the internal storage to the external.
However it always suprises me when people say that 16gb is not enough.
I have nothing but apps and app data on the internal storage, loads of apps installed and still plenty of space for more.
Everything else goes on the sdcard.
ExFat.
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No, but there are apps you can use to extend the internal storage to the external.
However it always suprises me when people say that 16gb is not enough.
I have nothing but apps and app data on the internal storage, loads of apps installed and still plenty of space for more.
Everything else goes on the sdcard.
ExFat.
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Sometimes apps like Facebook can take up a few hundred of MBs and the average size of the apps I installed is about 100 MBs plus some cache with them... And the actual usable storage on the tab s is much less than 16gb, so once I installed too many apps, the shortage of internal storage comes... Btw What kind of apps can I use to extend the internal storage to the SD card? Or is there any way to reverse the storage without using the Xposed?
Link2sd Pro and Foldermount being 2 that I've used. Link2sd Pro being my preference.
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