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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
In my opinion, Verizon gets a pretty good lineup of phones. The Galaxy Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. As far as a carrier, very expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Verizon gets pretty good Android handsets IMO.
I just recently moved one of my AT&T lines to Verizon. Prior to that I was with Sprint. Sprint's data speeds were horrendous in my area and EVERY area in traveled too. I can't even imagine what its like after the Iphone release. Voice was always good on Sprint. AT&T's data blew sprint out of the water. Verizon is as good if not quite as fast 3g wise as AT&T but its incredibly reliable. 4g is blazing. 3g speeds are usually 1 - 1.8mbs on Verizon 3g. 4g pushes 15mbs. AT&T's 3g was anywhere from 800k to 4mbs. Verizon is definitely more stable and works in more places.
Both are leaps and bounds better than Sprint. Also with Sprints $10 premium add on its the same price as Verizon if you use Google voice or another data type service for texting. Which is what I do and saves me the $20 a month. I don't need many minutes since if I get low I can use google voice and GrooveIP for free minutes. Once its set up and configured it works great even over 3g.
In other words, jump ship the grass is greener. Sprint's service has taken a dump the last few years and they run a serious risk of bankruptcy before they can put all the spectrum they have to any real use. They have made one mistake after another after another for a long time now.
The LTE roms are on another site mostly.
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Thanks a lot guys ^^ its really between getting the LTE nexus or GSM on tmo, an whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
*what site josh...?
i moved from AT&T to Verizon and havent looked back, love my GN, but other phones are respectable too,RAZR,REZOUND are good phones too depending on youre tastes
Rootzwiki, but if you have the choice, get the GSM version.. much better battery life.
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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It's really not that bad. I mean if you hammer it on LTE it will drain quicker than usual but it's not this destroyer of batteries that people make it out to be.
while LTE may destroy ur battery, u can always turn it off till u need it. there is plenty of dev support for the LTE version, and verizon's network coverage destroys all other three carriers put together.
also.. if u are going to pay for a data plan anyways, might as well enjoy the subsidy.
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whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
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The GSM version works on all providers in all countries all over the earth. The LTE version works on one provider, in one country.
I think the GSM-model simply has what you may refer to as a "immensely much bigger user-base" and hence more developers than what's when you look at the cold, hard facts, is basically a carrier-phone, available on one carrier only.
If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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It's going to vary largely due to many factors. What's your signal strength, how many other people are using 4G in your area, etc...
I was traveling through Baltimore, MD and was managing only 12 MBPS with 1 bar of signal strength on New Years Eve, which honestly, is easily more than enough for anything. Keep in mind, as time goes on, more people get 4G phones, and use them more, available bandwidth is going to go down anyway. I don't understand why people think they should get 20 MBPS anyway....what are you going to do? If you don't have an unlimited plan, what's the point? You'll use up the small amount of data allotment that you have so quick you'll never even know it.
Thanks guys i think i shall pick up the LTE tomorrow...
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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
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I left Sprint for Verizon 3 months ago, and the extra cost is well worth it - it's like having a landline in my pocket.
As far as your assessment of the Android phone lineup, I'm not sure where you're coming from. I think they have a great lineup, although certainly it's slanted toward the Motorola line. With Google buy Motorola mobility, that should end up being a very good thing.
I also don't think they meddle with the phones nearly as much as ATT does - but I have no direct experience with ATT, just what my friends tell me.
I don't know about all your guys' locations but I live in Mesa, AZ (it is about 30 min from downtown Phoenix). I get VERY slow LTE in the city. Even with 2 bars I get ~5 down and 5 up. As far as signal strength, it isn't much different to any other 4G phones I have used. I get no data in my school's basement and the phone always seems to drop the data service. This morning I had 1X until I restarted the device. At a small town in east AZ, Verizon is the only one with data service, but it is VERY!!!! slow. 3G in Phoenix area is about .8 down (on a good day).
Was hesitant due to what im hearing about battery life on LTE, but i guess I'll deal with battery issue since i do want the 32gig option an I'm hearing nothing but good things about Verizon, any other differences between LTE an GSM version?
I drop Sprint and made the switch to Verizon. I had nothing but network problems on Sprint, crappy speed on 3g/4g network. But one thing I can say is once you make the switch to an LTE phone you’ll never go back to regular 3g/4g service! is like going from DVD to bluray.
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I've been looking for an official spec data sheet on the CDMA and GSM Versions of SGN. Thus far I am unable to find it - I've found the generic spec thus far but nothing in detail.d
Verizon is sending me a new SGN This week and Im going to flash GSM Radio's to CDMA Phone (Yes, I know you dont need to say it) I am taking a gamble that the SGN is a Quad band phone like Rezound. (It has the menu interface for GSM both 3g and 4g) - Personally I would like to see the ability to use CDMA or GSM (Pick on boot or within the ROM) Similar to 4g/3g Swapping.
Let me know If I sound nuts.
Nuts.
But if it would work you'd be called a genius and loved like Einstein in your avatar.
Im thinking it's gonna brick the device but im not worried about that.
Anyone else think its gonna brick the device?
Super nuts. I hope it doesn't brick it but just brakes the radios. Good luck man.
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Ok, I just Flashed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20312089&postcount=6
It didn't brick the device (I assume because its radio only and not the BaseBand)
Gonna reflash my Hybrid 4.0.4 Radio to make sure all is well
Then reflash this and flash a GSM baseband/bootloader
IMO I call BullSh*t to Verizons Non-world phone idea. I think they pushed the phone out so fast that it was built on a universal hardware platform and the software is the limiting factor.
Ok, Flashed the Standard Euro Baseband XXKK6 - No luck on signal or getting IMEI off the phone now.
Gonna run to Tmobile and get a New Simcard for my extra account. At this point I am assuming the sim lock is blocking any efforts to use the GSM Bands.
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Ok,
I've been looking for an official spec data sheet on the CDMA and GSM Versions of SGN. Thus far I am unable to find it - I've found the generic spec thus far but nothing in detail.d
Verizon is sending me a new SGN This week and Im going to flash GSM Radio's to CDMA Phone (Yes, I know you dont need to say it) I am taking a gamble that the SGN is a Quad band phone like Rezound. (It has the menu interface for GSM both 3g and 4g) - Personally I would like to see the ability to use CDMA or GSM (Pick on boot or within the ROM) Similar to 4g/3g Swapping.
Let me know If I sound nuts.
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Im thinking it's gonna brick the device but im not worried about that.
Anyone else think its gonna brick the device?
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You're stupid. You cant accomplish anything with this. It will NEVER work on a GSM network dude. Just buy a goddamn GSM version. You think you're just some pioneer that's going to crack this, as if its not widely known that the phones are physically different? It doesn't have the proper GSM radios in it...
You're just going to brick it. Before you do, why not just sell it and donate the money to charity. Money better used...
Is this a joke..?
So by your logic I can put a Verizon LTE sim card in my GSM nexus and achieve LTE speeds? Since you know, the hardware is the same.
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So I listed my Note 2 i717 on craiglist and someone offered me 600$ for it. I'm considering selling it and buying an international note 2. However I'd lose my LTE capability and it's not easy to blow 700 on a new toy. Or should I wait for the US note 2 and get it on contract for the rumored 199? That would give me LTE but degrade my battery life. You guys know the differences obviously. If I wait though and try to sell my note I'm not sure I'd be able to get the same kind of money as I can now. What do you guys think I should do?
someone offered you $600 for your 1st gen at&t note??? take it and don't look back.
i would assume that samsung would give you the ability to turn off 4G.
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So I listed my Note 2 i717 on craiglist and someone offered me 600$ for it. I'm considering selling it and buying an international note 2. However I'd lose my LTE capability and it's not easy to blow 700 on a new toy. Or should I wait for the US note 2 and get it on contract for the rumored 199? That would give me LTE but degrade my battery life. You guys know the differences obviously. If I wait though and try to sell my note I'm not sure I'd be able to get the same kind of money as I can now. What do you guys think I should do?
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Yea if someone wants to buy your N1 for what an N2 cost go for it!
could allways just hold on to the money for awile and see if the LTE is coming soon.
what are you doing on your phone.. really need LTE?
Well the thing is the buyer is from over an hour away and as much as I would love to go sell it to him the price of gas and tolls would have to be taken into consideration. I don't use LTE since it's not even in my town yet and I'd prefer to have the better battery life so that's why I'm leaning more towards the international note.
Sounds like a scam to me.
You can get a brand new Note 1 for $500 + tax at neweggs. Unlocked.
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Sounds like a scam to me.
You can get a brand new Note 1 for $500 + tax at neweggs. Unlocked.
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I got alot of accessories with it.... Clearplex, 15+ cases all different colors, extra samsung battery, 2 amp charger, charging wire, dock, and a second battery cover.
It's kinda your call bro. But I'm pretty sure if you don't have lte in your area it won't drain the battery any faster. You can even turn lte off to make sure it doesn't even try to scan for it. As far as craigslist I'd be careful and meet them somewhere decently public to avoid getting robbed or something it sounds almost like a too good to be true deal even with all your extras. So tell them to meet you some place relatively public then gauge how they respond and act accordingly.
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It's kinda your call bro. But I'm pretty sure if you don't have lte in your area it won't drain the battery any faster. You can even turn lte off to make sure it doesn't even try to scan for it. As far as craigslist I'd be careful and meet them somewhere decently public to avoid getting robbed or something it sounds almost like a too good to be true deal even with all your extras. So tell them to meet you some place relatively public then gauge how they respond and act accordingly.
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It still has the LTE chip in it so of course it's going to use more battery then the international version. I wish I had the option on my phone to disable LTE but it doesn't work. The toggle is there for 2g networks only but it doesn't do anything. I know it sounds too good to be true but the guy just text me again about 20 minutes ago asking if I got it unlocked yet. I always meet in a public place, I'm not stupid and I bring 3 guys with me just in case. You never know.
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It still has the LTE chip in it so of course it's going to use more battery then the international version.
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... No.
Just sell your old Note, wait for the AT&T Note 2 release.
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... No.
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So the AT&T note 2 doesn't have an LTE chip it in? It magically gets LTE signal and the international one doesn't is what you're saying?
what he's saying is: no, having the LTE chip in the phone does -not- automatically mean more battery drain. sorry but i don't know why you are having trouble with that concept..
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So the AT&T note 2 doesn't have an LTE chip it in? It magically gets LTE signal and the international one doesn't is what you're saying?
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what he's saying is: no, having the LTE chip in the phone does -not- automatically mean more battery drain. sorry but i don't know why you are having trouble with that concept..
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Of course it does. Compare the battery life on the international s3 to the AT&T one. Look at the professional video reviews of the note 2 from big companies. They all mention how once it gets LTE and comes to the states they aren't sure how much of the battery life will be degraded but it will be some amount.
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Of course it does. Compare the battery life on the international s3 to the AT&T one. Look at the professional video reviews of the note 2 from big companies. They all mention how once it gets LTE and comes to the states they aren't sure how much of the battery life will be degraded but it will be some amount.
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Not arguing with your statement, even though I would have something to say about it, comparing the "international s3 to the AT&T one" is apples to oranges when referring to one chip being different when it's a completely different soc.
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Of course it does. Compare the battery life on the international s3 to the AT&T one. Look at the professional video reviews of the note 2 from big companies. They all mention how once it gets LTE and comes to the states they aren't sure how much of the battery life will be degraded but it will be some amount.
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My interpretation of those reviews is that using LTE will decrease battery life. Disabling LTE will bring it right back to what international models are seeing. I think this is what the other forum member was referring to.
Daniel
dachness said:
My interpretation of those reviews is that using LTE will decrease battery life. Disabling LTE will bring it right back to what international models are seeing. I think this is what the other forum member was referring to.
Daniel
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You can't turn off LTE on any US Samsung phone. I'm running a custom rom and the option is there but it does nothing.
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You can't turn off LTE on any US Samsung phone. I'm running a custom rom and the option is there but it does nothing.
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Really? I'm on a Verizon s3 with a cm10 rom and it's in settings- more - mobile networks - network mode. Or you can just toggle it off with a 3rd party app. Or you can type in the dial pad to get to the service menu (I forget the number). Or download the app "phone info" from the market. Turning off LTE is the same as your WiFi, Bluetooth, or NFC it can be turned off to save power.
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Really? I'm on a Verizon s3 with a cm10 rom and it's in settings- more - mobile networks - network mode. Or you can just toggle it off with a 3rd party app. Or you can type in the dial pad to get to the service menu (I forget the number). Or download the app "phone info" from the market. Turning off LTE is the same as your WiFi, Bluetooth, or NFC it can be turned off to save power.
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I should have said any AT&T phone. The option is there but it does nothing.
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I should have said any AT&T phone. The option is there but it does nothing.
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Yep, more than likely AT&T will not allow you the choice to disable LTE. If you are connected to LTE, your battery life will suffer.
If you don't mind losing LTE speeds then go for it. Also, you never know if the US version is going to have a locked bootloader or what other stupid things US carriers do to their devices. Also, dev support is already great on the N7100. You'll get updates a ton faster. I received my device on Monday and couldn't be happier. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't wait for AT&T release theirs.
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Yep, more than likely AT&T will not allow you the choice to disable LTE. If you are connected to LTE, your battery life will suffer.
If you don't mind losing LTE speeds then go for it. Also, you never know if the US version is going to have a locked bootloader or what other stupid things US carriers do to their devices. Also, dev support is already great on the N7100. You'll get updates a ton faster. I received my device on Monday and couldn't be happier. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't wait for AT&T release theirs.
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Do you experience fast dormancy using the international note 2 on at&t?
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Yep, more than likely AT&T will not allow you the choice to disable LTE. If you are connected to LTE, your battery life will suffer.
If you don't mind losing LTE speeds then go for it. Also, you never know if the US version is going to have a locked bootloader or what other stupid things US carriers do to their devices. Also, dev support is already great on the N7100. You'll get updates a ton faster. I received my device on Monday and couldn't be happier. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't wait for AT&T release theirs.
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See, I agree with you totally when it comes to the community dev support. Personally, I haven't yet been spoiled by LTE, so I suppose ignorance is bliss so far. However, this does bring up a point that I have been trying to shout from the rooftops in this forum, and not many people seem to understand what I'm shouting, so here goes again:
The international LTE Note 2 (N7105) does NOT have LTE radios compatible with AT&T's service frequencies.
The AT&T Note 2, supposedly, will be exactly identical to the international N7105 from a hardware standpoint, with the exception of the LTE radio.
Theory:
Considering the vast similarities between the N7105 and the AT&T Note 2, firmware between the two devices should be compatible. Thus, it should be possible to flash the N7105 firmware onto the AT&T Note 2, and then, for LTE functionality, separately flash the modem.bin driver from the AT&T firmware.
This is what people did with the T-Mobile OG Galaxy Tab in order to get Phone calling and 3G functionality.
Perhaps this is the best of all worlds? A pseudo-international Note 2, running unlocked international firmware, while also having the hardware and driver functionality of North American domestic LTE!
Hi all,
I know Samsung are making a 3g version of the note 2, and they will also release a 4G lte version. The isn't any good 4G networks where I live right now, but i was thinking if future proofing my phone, and I also might be moving back to England soon. my questions are this:
If I buy a 4G model (n7105 I think), will I be able to flash the international version roms?, I know I might not get the 4G network if I do that, but would I still get the 3g networks if i flashed a different modem?.
If I get the 4G version, I would get worse battery life cos of the need for a extra modem to be running, but will I be able to disable 4G in settings (like I can disable 3g on my s2)..?
And if I can disable 4g, then would I still get the same battery life as on a 3g version of the phone?.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers Corey
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I'm using N7105 on a non-LTE provider and still works as a charm without battery issues. 50% on day 1 with playing around lasted me half day.
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fishingfon said:
Hi all,
I know Samsung are making a 3g version of the note 2, and they will also release a 4G lte version. The isn't any good 4G networks where I live right now, but i was thinking if future proofing my phone, and I also might be moving back to England soon. my questions are this:
If I buy a 4G model (n7105 I think), will I be able to flash the international version roms?, I know I might not get the 4G network if I do that, but would I still get the 3g networks if i flashed a different modem?.
If I get the 4G version, I would get worse battery life cos of the need for a extra modem to be running, but will I be able to disable 4G in settings (like I can disable 3g on my s2)..?
And if I can disable 4g, then would I still get the same battery life as on a 3g version of the phone?.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers Corey
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yes you are able to disable the LTE network, and choose the GSM/WCDMA instead.
But without disabling it, the network will auto choose the available network. If you current telco doesn't provide any LTE connection, the phone will auto change to 3G.
Like here the telco I'm using, even provides the 4G connection, but, in facts, it is not yet island-wide. So, when I reach my home, it turns directly to 3G. Battery wise, as I notice, is the same. Not much different when you are in 4G or in 3G. But yes, speed is different when you are in 4G.
The only lack of this 4G (N7105), .....
we still don't have specific forum for N7105 (dunno why we don't have... LOL) nor custom ROM. So, I just have to bear with the stock ROM rooted. :fingers-crossed:
Sent from the corner of this rounded earth.
Future proof?
Well depends on how long you are intending to keep it. These days people change phone very frequently and LTE is no loss for most general usage of data use.
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There is already a 3G and LTE version out in Australian market with a price difference of $200+ with the latter being more expensive.
If you are moving back to England very soon (1 or 2 months), do check out the price and review of the LTE plans and services with the various mobile providers before deciding which version to purchase. Have read online that LTE charges in Europe is a killer and data speed of LTE will be greatly affected by the amount of users at the same time, within the same WAN.
As for future-proofing your phone, it will depends on how long you are using it since nowadays, majority of the ppl does not use the same phone for more than 2 years, which is directly affected by the various 'annual contract plans' which the providers has to offer.
Flashing the International version Rom to my N7105 was not very successful as I lost WIFI/Data/Mobile receiption and I have since unrooted my device..
Waiting for the official Home for N7105 as well.. :fingers-crossed:
Hi all,
I am planning to get a note 2 from mobicity here in Australia.
I have the choice of either the 4g LTE version or the 3g version.
My network at the moment doesn't support 4g, so i would only be getting it to future proof it. And i am moving back to England soon, so i might get 4g when I go there.
But if I get the 4g version, I know that 4g LTE uses a lot more battery then the 3g version. But if I disabled 4g in settings (like you can disable 3g on the galaxy s2) would I then get the same battery life as the 3g version? Or would I still get worse battery life?.
I really need to know, as if I would still get worse battery life, I will get the 3g version.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Corey
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The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
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The 4G version will chew through it's battery substantially quicker than 3G. You have to ask yourself whether 4G speeds is worth this sacrifice?
Seeing how you don't have 4G coverage anyway, I would stick with the 3G version.
I HATE it when people say they want a 'future proof' phone because:
a)The phone will be outdated (hardware wise) within 12 months and;
b)Most people (particularly on XDA) buy a new phone every year
Now having said all this, the 4G version does have one ace up it's sleeve over the 3G version - DC-HSDPA on 3G. The N7100 doesn't have this (it maxes out at HSPA+).
So, if you did get the 4G, and disabled 4G, you'd *theoretically* get faster speeds than the 'standard' N7100. Assuming of course, that your network supports DC-HSDPA, which I'm not sure Optus does.
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Hi,
I don't have 4g coverage at the moment, but i am moving to England soon, and I heard they are starting to roll out 4g there at the moment.
I am only 16, and I am currently un-employed, so i don't have any income, apart from the money my dad gives me, so i can't upgrade my phone each year.
That's why I want to future proof it.
If I do buy the 4g version, and I disabled 4g in settings (I heard the was a option for that in the setting of the n2) then would I get the same battery life as if I had the 3g version? As that should disable the 4g radio. And from what I can find out, the only difference between the 4g and the 3g version is the 4G radio in the lte version.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
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Disabling the 4G will give you significant battery life improvement, similar to the N7100.
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Ok thanks,
Do you know if it would give the same battery life as the 3g model if I disabled 4g?
As battery life is really important for me, as my current phone is the galaxy s2, and the battery life is terrible on it, I have to recharge 2 to 3 times a day, so no matter which note 2 I get it will be better then that.
But i want to get the best battery life I can.
Thanks
Cheers
Corey
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I don't know if anyone can guarantee it will be the same between the two, but no matter how you slice it, you'll still get MUCH better battery life on the N2 than on your S2...even if you keep 4g on...so if you turn it off, it will just be that much better. It's a win win either way.
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Actually, 4G is more battery comsume than 3G, but the difference is not so large, auound 10-15%, when you turn off the 4G, the battery performance is same as 3G version.
But the download speed have very big difference between 3g and 4g. I advise you choice LTE version
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Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
what is the reason?
lawtq said:
Here are the facts as i've had both n7100 and n7105.
N7100 gave me 9 to 10 hours on screen battery time almost all the time.
N7105 gives me just over 7 hours. This is 3g only as i'm with 3uk and they only deal with 3g. Their 3g network gives me 19meg download speeds most of the time though.
So a big difference and i actually miss my old n7100 but i'm loving n7105 speeds to. Catch 22 situation. So even with 4g disabled and settings set to 3g only the n7105 radio uses more power.
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But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
seyedshahaboddin said:
But I've confused,what is the reason, N7105 use more power than N7100,when 4G is off ?
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Faster hspa uses more power too.
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Im using the N7105 on "3" in the uk to make use of the DC-HSPA+
Thats specifically why I went for the N7105 because I have unlimited data on that network and the N7100 doesn't support DC.
I use the phone a lot and I easily get a full days use on a single charge and as long as I can do that I don't care as I charge the phone every night.
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@rbiter said:
Faster hspa uses more power too.
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This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
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seyedshahaboddin said:
This is my carrier 3G " omantel.om/OmanWebLib/Individual/Mobile/About_3.5G.aspx?LinkID=3&MenuId=228" ,Considering to my carriers Galaxy note II LTE uses more power than Note II 3g?
sorry,I couldn't post the link address completly because I registered on XDA recently and after 10 posts I am being able to post outside links.so add www before omantel.
Regards
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Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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@rbiter said:
Well, previously everybody was thinking and seeing that LTE used more power and basically it did. Most of that was attributed to lte using a second board for the radio. As second gen lte radios have been integrated onto soc's it has been noted that lte can be more efficient if utilized properly because with lte's low latency and quick bursts of speed the phone can race to idle quicker. I am sure this is a very effective for people who use sync services a lot. If used properly, I am sure the phone can poll for data in quick bursts and can definitely help battery life. This is not always the case between OEM'S being lazy and sloppy and depending on what and how often the phone needs to poll for data. I would also think if lte has bad reception it can have a worse effect than hspa would. I almost got a carrier version of gnote2 to have lte because I want to test it so bad but I hate my carrier enough as is and I hate bloatware with a passion.
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First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
4g speed is worth the battery life i would say..i am a 4g user..
seyedshahaboddin said:
First,thank u "@rbiter" because of ur opinion,but my intent was that,considering by my carrier 3G speed(3.5G up to 7.2 MB but generally is less than 1.5 MB) Galaxy Note II LTE version uses more battery life than Galaxy Note II 3G?and is it a huge differnce?or is it sustainable?
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From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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@rbiter said:
From what I've read they are comparable. But at the same time I've noticed some people getting up to 20% less battery than the international version. A lot of factors go into that like usage and reception. If you really want lte, I would say get it, that is if you really need more than 1.5mb/s more often than not. I turned it down because I am fortunate enough to get up to 5mb/s in ideal situations and 1-3mb/s in less than ideal situations and plenty of WiFi in between.
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I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
seyedshahaboddin said:
I wanna buy Galaxy note II LTE international version!!So what is your suggestion?
here carriers want to provide LTE this year,but if they don't launch it at right calender,and Galaxy note II LTE drain more power in contrast of 3G version,it will be lose-lose game!!
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Make sure the lte bands are compatible and that you have coverage. If you don't have coverage I would just get the n7100. BTW, even though I think Nokia and Motorola by far still make the best phones as far as reception is concerned, Samsung should get an honorable mention for being very battery friendly when signal is poor. Nokia too. Motorola is iffy when it comes to poor signal. And not to mention, the galaxy note 2 gets very good reception for a Samsung phone and by far has the best WiFi reception of any phone I have ever had. Even better than my atrix.
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But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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seyedshahaboddin said:
But I confused again,let ask in another way,image that I have 3G network,I have to choose gnote II n7100 or n7105, in same setting and usage n7105(operated on 3G mode) drain power as much as n7100?or more,how much?
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if you buy an 7105 and don't use lte at all, it will probably get a little less battery like i mentioned before. otoh though, it has dc-hspa so it would depend if you get the same as n7100 on your coverage and speeds. anyways, at most you will probably see a 20% loss of what you would see with a 7100. at most. anyways, quit asking for my approval. if you can get an unlocked n7105 and don't mind a small POTENTIAL loss, you should be good to go.