[Q] Sprint and ATT versions Superior? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

Hey all are the GS2 from Sprint and att superior to our tmobile version? hardware wise? I am new to rooting and all, and I just rooted my phone and it runs super better with all the bloatware removed.. My antutu bench scored like 5460. is that good? and when I freshly reboot i scored a 3800 in the quadrant. anyone know when an OC kernal will be out?

first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?

jessejames111981 said:
first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
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Very well put sir.
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.

Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?

bubbabfp said:
Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!

I cant seem to download Dead Space.. from the flexion site, but I am downloading dungeon defenders now.

jessejames111981 said:
overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
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Your right no need for overclock this processor is one of the higher clocks and we still get better battery life compared to the others variants. Dead space is a good example on optimization for the gpu for us. As soon as we get some kernels and optimized roms are phone will be sitting right next to the other beast.

att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds

Killbynature said:
Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
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This. The big difference from a UI perspective is the lack of hardware acceleration on the TMO version. In all likelihood, it will still that way as well.

quest4fire said:
att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results

I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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overthatscreen said:
I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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Yep, this is pretty much the trade-off. With the optimizations going on over in the Dev threads, I have been able to get this phone to behave a fair amount more smoothly, but it's still pretty much a joke compared to the exynos versions.
On the other hand, my data speeds absolutely crush what I was getting with Sprint's wimax in NYC, so there you have it.

overthatscreen said:
I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I just moved over from the Sprint version today. I will agree that the Sprint version is snappier but the service was horrible, like 300kbytes average, no thanks i will deal with a very tiny bit of lag for better service.
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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Check out the city .....
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TJBunch1228 said:
The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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He's comparing it to the exynos SGS2 tho -- no amount of exchanging is going to make the TMO version look any better in that comparison.

This thread makes me sad I sold, my international exynos version for this
I was using it on att gophone $50 unlimited plan, getting 800 haha, which was ok for simple browsing.
Their prices are ridiculous so signing with.then is out of the question.
after owning it 3 months I sold it , and used the money to get this so I can be on a plan with high speed data
I miss hardware acceleration, and some games running very smoothly.
I liked the big screen, capacitive buttons, and Data speed.
I know I will get other phones and sell this eventually so I don't let it bother me......I try not to lol
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Idk about lag, but my phone doesn't lag at all. Fastest phone I've ever had.
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it was a big deal for me at first, but for my needs it is plenty capable
I miss the high graphics, but realize that good games aren't made to run on one device. If a good game comes out, developers want that game to run well on all devices, so long as they meet the sudden requirements.
Maybe i'm wrong
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Motoblur port to Evo?

Not sure if this should be posted in the development section, but I figured its more of a question than anything development related
Does anyone know if it would be possible to port over the new edition of motoblur? And before we all freak out, watch the videos of the new Droid X
(here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/)
Judging by the specs I've seen...
Some of the listed specs include:
4.4-inch, FWVGA 854 x 480-resolution screen
Android 2.1 with "some new sort of Motoblur"
8-megapixel camera
Ability to record 720p video
Multitouch keyboard
1GHz ARMv7 processor
8GB of storage space
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...The processor is identical; that should help, no? It doesn't seem like too much of a stretch, but I'm no developer.
I just really like the clean, vanilla look of the new motoblur, SenseUI has always seemed a little boring to me. Any thoughts/ideas?
The processors currently both run at 1 ghz, but they are FAR from the same processor. Evo sports a snapdragon from qualcomm while the Droid x has an omap from Texas instruments.
It's a bit premature but I have a feeling that processor is a better candidate for overclocking. Hopefully all those leaked quadrant tests we saw of this phone really were on froyo.
That processor is about the only thing I want from that phone.
Motoblur? No thanks. Not even with a cool name like "ninjablur".
I still say Evo all the way
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Yes the Droid X is using ninjablur, a more "adult" version of motoblur. as for a port, i dont even think the old motoblur was ported to anything besides the G1, its bad. Sense > moto/ninjablur by far. ADW or Launcher Pro > blur also
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The processors currently both run at 1 ghz, but they are FAR from the same processor. Evo sports a snapdragon from qualcomm while the Droid x has an omap from Texas instruments.
It's a bit premature but I have a feeling that processor is a better candidate for overclocking. Hopefully all those leaked quadrant tests we saw of this phone really were on froyo.
That processor is about the only thing I want from that phone.
Motoblur? No thanks. Not even with a cool name like "ninjablur".
I still say Evo all the way
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Shows you how much I know, thanks for clearing that up for me. I was under the impression that since they were both "1Ghz ARMv7" processors they were more similar than that.
Don't get me wrong, my point to this post was not to talk down the Evo, it is by far the best device I have ever used, and I find the X to be bulbous and not as clean cut as my Evo. But as much as I love my Evo, I despise SenseUI. Maybe if it was called NINJAUI I would feel differently
I guess I'll just have to wait for a nice AOSP or Froyo ROM.
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Shows you how much I know, thanks for clearing that up for me. I was under the impression that since they were both "1Ghz ARMv7" processors they were more similar than that.
Don't get me wrong, my point to this post was not to talk down the Evo, it is by far the best device I have ever used, and I find the X to be bulbous and not as clean cut as my Evo. But as much as I love my Evo, I despise SenseUI. Maybe if it was called NINJAUI I would feel differently
I guess I'll just have to wait for a nice AOSP or Froyo ROM.
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LOL I'm not one to bite people's head off for "questioning the Evo". It's so early into our Evo ownership that we have every right to question our purchase (especially within the 30 day window). As for me I have no questions about the Evo, I haven't had any of the hardware defects lots of other ppl have been reporting.
My only issue with my decision is Sprint's data speeds. Some people get great speeds and I am uber jealous. Indianapolis is the 11th biggest city in the US and my data speeds here blow. I routinely get 150kbps downstream on 3G. With a "premium data" add on you tell me how you would feel paying extra and getting stuck with those speeds....
gah shame on my double posting self.
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LOL I'm not one to bite people's head off for "questioning the Evo". It's so early into our Evo ownership that we have every right to question our purchase (especially within the 30 day window). As for me I have no questions about the Evo, I haven't had any of the hardware defects lots of other ppl have been reporting.
My only issue with my decision is Sprint's data speeds. Some people get great speeds and I am uber jealous. Indianapolis is the 11th biggest city in the US and my data speeds here blow. I routinely get 150kbps downstream on 3G. With a "premium data" add on you tell me how you would feel paying extra and getting stuck with those speeds....
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Didn't notice you were from Indy as well, we are in need of some 4G lovin. I'm not home enough to report on my 3G speeds there but I can tell you it can't be much worse than the 1x I get while at school in Bloomington
I've been lucky as well, I have a little bit of the screen rise but not enough to make a fuss about it yet. I just hate that damn Sense, I stumbled upon Avalaunch's EVOlution ROM, that'll hold me over until a proper 2.2 can be released..then I'll never look back
I'll run some speed tests this weekend when I'm home and let you know how mine looks. I'm up on the NE side.
EDIT: that probably confused you, didn't realize I was logged in on my other account :/
I still am very interested in seeing a motoblur brought to the EVO; im actually trying to work on that but i have no real time

Upgrade to the thunderbolt or wait?

My brother agreed to give me the upgrade on his line if I gave him my inc. So i would also have another upgrade in June 2012 so should I upgrade to the thunderbolt or keep my dinc? I'm looking for some advise as to what I should do.
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I say wait...there are a lot of new phones coming out. The thunderbolt wouldn't be worth it to me.
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I agree. The Thunderbolt is not dual-core. Plus Verizon will be getting the Xperia Play and other great phones. Including some great dual-core phones.
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If it was me I would probably wait for a dual core phone with LTE. My girlfriend has the Thunderbolt and it is not much better than my Incredible other that has the big screen that I like.
I say wait too for something with dual core, 3d cam?, and something with a battery that last longer than 3 hours
Seems as though everybody would rather wait. Lol. Seems like an easy enough decision.
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I would hold out although for you it's probably easier said than done. Hard to resist I'm sure!
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I too would wait.
I have to ask, what is the big deal about dual core processors? I mean, what are we expecting these new phones to be able to perform that our Droid Incredible can't?
I just picked up a DInc for the wife, and we now have a TBolt sitting around playing Pandora in the kitchen.
She hated it, ( TB ) but being that it was the 2nd phone she got ( she returned the iPhone ) she's stuck with it. She tried to tell me that she would give me the TB for my DInc, but I really like mine and an not willing to part with it just yet.
Long short I traded my old Eris + a ridiculously small amount of cash for what appears to be a almost new DInc and she seems to be happy with it...
For now...
So, I'd wait
Watch this video. Both of these are dual-core. Super fast compared to the incredible.
m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dh6JZ3Aykr2k&v=h6JZ3Aykr2k&gl=US
Thank me if I help.
i say wait. thunderbolt looks nice but it's not a major upgrade, especially if you're not in a LTE coverage area.
i'm holding my upgrade for the bionic or for the next HTC LTE phone, whichever come first.
The new Sense 3.0 ROMS are keeping me pretty busy that last few days and also has made it a lot easier to not want a new phone right away. Its almost like getting a new one!
I craved the Thunderbolt. I watched forums on it daily during the whole Thundergate release date situation. I finally got tired of waiting. Ended up spending the $700 on a set of recliners instead (I was going to pay full price for the TB).
Then I started sniffing around the DINC2. Same specs as TB only 4" display and no LTE. Not too shabby. Only problem I've been hearing, locked bootloader? Ugh.
i own a new Thunderbolt, and even thought the specs don't look like an improvement they really are. And even though dual core is out there, the test beween dual and single aren't that far off from each other.
Quadrant scores (which is yes invaild technically) at 1.4 oc 2690, but mostly at 2100-2300
Positives
-more ram (768 mb), which makes a insane difference, almost never lags.
-The cpu is 1 ghz but can safely over clock to 1.4 (because qualcomm has stated it is stable clock from 800mhz-1.41 ghz) and i even got it stable at 1.8
-comes preloaded with 32 gb card, nice plus. and even thought it says 8 emmc, it only has 2.8 GB or something to work with, what is still a good amount.
-screen is gorilla glass, so its tough and durable.
-camera 720p recording (rumors of 1080p with new sense roms)
-if u want to video chat then yes this phone has a front camera thats always nice.
-Even though the screen is big, it doesn't feel it. because got some width instead of just length like droid x it looks smaller.
-And o yea LTE which is insane, almost as good as Wifi N in some areas.
Negatives
-Battery Battery Battery Battery Battery SUCKS. But i upgraded to ginersense 2.1/3.0 mods and my battery life is insanely good all of a sudden.
-$250 for a phone is expensive, But Samsung LTE Charge is 300 and tech specs are same if not worse in some aspects.
-Stock comes with 2.2 but with root gingerbread is easily available.
But with any phone you got to buy it for your needs, so if you need battery throughout the day, dont even bother, but if you can lug around batteries or chargers, its a must upgrade.
Wait for sure.
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yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.
+1 for waiting. I'm perfectly happy with my Dinc until something with better hardware comes along.
Oh yeah, just wait. It's what I'd do if I had the option.
Agree
azr3alazd3ycum said:
yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.
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My brother has a Thunderbolt, it's pretty nice. As long as you root it, and do a few tweaks with lower voltages the battery life is pretty good (better than my incredible), but once you turn 4G on it'll be significantly worse.
I'd still say wait, unless you really want to jump into a new phone. Who knows when another comparable phone will come out.
The Thunderbolt is pretty large too, some people like that since it'll be easier to do things on- but personally I find it just more of a hassle to carry around.

What do you think of the T-mobile SGS II?

Hey guys, I'm planning on getting this phone tomorrow so I just wanted to start a thread to see what people think about this phone. Don't need quadrant scores or anything like that. Just what do you guys think of that phone after a day of using it? Thanks guys!
I'm going to have a seat in this thread.
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Were to start....
The phone is just Beast. Responsive, smooth, powerful, clear, beautiful ect. ect. ect.
I haven't tested the Amaze but i have read up on it, the "cons" that i have read other people say about this phone compared to it seem to be pretty quickly decided and kinda biased (my own opinion please don't beat me for that) in any case I didn't sleep much due to my phone (mostly trying to stay awake to kill the battery to so i can give it its full charge) but i'm not disappointing with the SGS II at all.
I also have the SGS 4g, and when i got that phone i was thrilled, development for the phone was well under way by the time i got it. and i personally think the SGS II is a perfect successor.
As for the specifics, you can find all the info elsewhere
barondebxl said:
Hey guys, I'm planning on getting this phone tomorrow so I just wanted to start a thread to see what people think about this phone. Don't need quadrant scores or anything like that. Just what do you guys think of that phone after a day of using it? Thanks guys!
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there are many video reviews on tmonews and mobilesyrup
you can see them by yourself and judge, or better yet, go to any tmo store and try it out yourself
I bought the phone yesterday and am loving it. At first I didn't like the resolution since I'm coming from a Sensation which has an amazing resolution. But the larger smoother screen on the Galaxy S2 is pretty damn nice. The phone is blazing fast and typing on this is so much better than on the Sensation. Swype responds quickly and I'm just loving the smooth feel of the screen.
The only issues for me are that there is no WiFi Calling yet and the resolution. But I can get used to the resolution and WiFi Calling should come sometime soon.
Its the 1st phone I've loved since the Nokia n70 days. And that's a long time.
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Problem solved. This phone is freakin awesome.
I posted earlier about the audio problem but it looks like I needed to format my SD card before I moved it from one phone to another.
Simply put, the phone is incredible.
Go into it with reasonable expectations and you'll love it.
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Gotta add one more amazing thing about this beast. The data speeds are way better than any other phone I've ever used. The Sensation would give me about 7-8 Mbps max. I've already hit up to 13 Mbps on GS2.
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Gotta add one more amazing thing about this beast. The data speeds are way better than any other phone I've ever used. The Sensation would give me about 7-8 Mbps max. I've already hit up to 13 Mbps on GS2.
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I'm running at a steady 13mb and my YouTube and web browsing is lightning fast. My YouTube plays instantly and buffers extremely better than I've seen with other phones.
well i play with it in store did a testmy.net and i can tell it will lap my tmobile G2 atleast 3 times on the network department, as far as speed goes, i try everything to slow it down but its just keep trucking...
i got up to 22 Mbps Down and 3 Mbps up

Coming from an EVO... Who knows about this phone???

I was one of the first on the EVO band wagon with Sprint..
After a long time, of promising me 4G and waiting for the Galaxy Nexus to come out for Sprint.. I'm not waiting any longer..
T-Mobile is giving away GSII 's this weekend.. and I'm making the switch..
Looking for some tips and tricks here..
I know the phone is much faster than my EVO..
What are some things I should know about this phone?
T-Mobiles service is lightning fast for a glorified 3G (HSPA)
My EVO is rooted and I'm running Cyanogen Rom..
I would like to Root my GSII and eventually within a few weeks put a ROM on it..
Now.. Is it all basically the same? Rom manager? Reboot into recovery ? RA,Clockwork?
Flash zips?
How is the battery life? I deal with pretty good Battery life with my EVO.. after much time with messing with Kernels and such..
How is the Camera? Pictures looked great from me playing with it...
Duel Core 1.5 CPU ?? Seems awesome.. Galaxy Nexus is only 1.2 or something..
Screen quality as well looks amazing!!
Anything else you guys can tell me about this phone, I would appreciate it ,..
THANKS
Yup, its probably the same but you need to use odin and download mode to root.
Battery life is 12 hours for me with medium usage, and with lil usage it can last up to 30~ hours.
Camera is fine. I personally find it better than any phone i had, just dont zoom when taking pictures.
1.5 ghz doesnt mean anything, Uk's GS2 is 1.2 ghz but atleast 20% faster than ours.
Hey dude, I was in the same boat as you. I had a HTC Evo running Cyanogen, too. I just got my SG2 last Friday and everything was pretty painless in terms of getting everything done. There were a few things that were confusing and frustrating, but it's really really easy to root and everything.
First thing you're going to want to do is follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332103
The first time you get into Odin and recovery and everything can be frustrating, so you're going to want to keep your battery cover off in the mean time until you can flash the recovery onto there and all that jazz.
Once you've got recovery installed and rooted, you can start flashing ROMs. The ROM I'm using is Juggernaut, which you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322642. It's got the most features, in my opinion, and runs rock solid. One thing I like about it is that I can reboot into recovery while in the ROM, so I don't have to shut it off, do the key presses to get in there. Makes it way easier when flashing new themes, etc. etc. After putting on a custom ROM, I moved on to flashing a theme, which brings Gingerbread up to look like ICS. I used this theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341526.
In terms of battery life, I'm constantly texting with vibration on, using 3G/4G to listen to music and browse the web. I'm starting at about 8 or 8:30 am and get done with work at about 3 or 4, and by the time I get home I'm sitting at like 35 or 40% charge. This is on the Bullet kernel that comes with the Juggernaut ROM. In terms of the speed of the processor, it's fast. Really fast - better than the one we have in the EVO. The camera is awesome, too. I use a program called HDR Camera+ to do HDR pics, and it's awesome. Cost $3.99 int he market, but the stock camera takes awesome pictures, too. Videos on it are awesome. Here's one I took last night to show a friend the colour changing on my new gaming keyboard using the stock camera program to record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geiPjeNjfiU
Sure I'll answer! Hi, and welcome to the sgs2 T-Mobile section!
1: you should know the phone has a way better screen then the evo, hmm probably lacking devs, since there were probably many for the evo. No issues honestly. GPS calls etc. Perfect. Well close to.
2: yes, rom manager, clockwork, etc same flashable zip
3: battery life is something you don't have to worry about, the evo battery sucked, HTC+battery is a no go.
4: camera is ehh, better than the nexus, but not better than the original sgs2.
5: 1.5 vs 1.2 actually the nexus is faster than our phone, but you can't tell much.
6: I mean from the sgs 2 to the evo is a big jump, honestly you'll enjoy this phone!
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Yep.. i'm pretty excited..
Few more questions if you guys don't mind..
How does it score on "Quadrant" ?
Finally, since we're all using T-mobile here.. My fathers co-worker just got this phone as well .. and on a speedtest he is averaging anywhere from 4-10 down and 2-4 up
To me, that seems incredible.. Actually, it seems almost TOO FAST.. as if its just going to show those speeds on the initial speed test, then slow down. ??
I use about 4-5 gigs a month, I use Slingplayer,Netflix,HBOGO, sportstracker live, and many other bandwidth dependent programs..
With those speeds all those I just listed would work flawlessly ....
Is it accurate? Are you guys happy with the speeds??
EDIT** Also, I assume I can get rid of the bloatware and other stuff Samsung puts on these phones with a rom?? Right?
EDIT #2.. lol
No ICS roms yet?
Will ICS come out for this phone?? I assume its more than powerful enough.. No leaked versions yet? I mean, the EVO already has one.. Very alpha stage, but still...
I just got the white tmobile version from the sprint version which I loved but both 3G/4G suck balls.....so I made the flip I use sprint for voice only 30bucks a month.....then I got the $30 5GB 100min on tmobile....my 4G speeds are very fast between 11-22mpbs !!! I barley got 3mpbs on sprint 4G........performance wise I knew the processor was different and went almost looking for a lesser experience ..but hpnestly I really dont notice any difference at all...Im happy with the setup I have and making my cell phone plans work for me and not get screwed by carriers
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THanks..
I just realized.. NO google wallet for this phone..
Husam2011 said:
Yup, its probably the same but you need to use odin and download mode to root.
Battery life is 12 hours for me with medium usage, and with lil usage it can last up to 30~ hours.
Camera is fine. I personally find it better than any phone i had, just dont zoom when taking pictures.
1.5 ghz doesnt mean anything, Uk's GS2 is 1.2 ghz but atleast 20% faster than ours.
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wrong
if you run exynos 1.2ghz and compare it to our 1.5, they should run around the same speeds
the amazing part is that wheny ou oc the exynos to 1.6, then it'd be faster than ours when we oc our snapdragon to 1.8
I also just jumped ship from sprint w/ an EVO. Now on T-Mobile w/ Galaxy S II. Loving it so far though i expected a larger development scene for the device, seems like the other GS II models have been getting a bit more love as far as custom rom development goes. Is they're any reason for this? Besides technical development setback's of course.
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Pretty much the galaxy nexus and ics development slowed down a lot of development...it hasnt stopped development, just slowed it down. There are still a lot of devs working on this device.
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Husam2011 said:
Yup, its probably the same but you need to use odin and download mode to root.
Battery life is 12 hours for me with medium usage, and with lil usage it can last up to 30~ hours.
Camera is fine. I personally find it better than any phone i had, just dont zoom when taking pictures.
1.5 ghz doesnt mean anything, Uk's GS2 is 1.2 ghz but atleast 20% faster than ours.
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The camera does zoom, use pinch to zoom in and out..
I have about 3 hours of screen on time and play games and what not and do about 14 hours
As for the exynos being "faster" this is just not true.. the processor is not faster nor does it compute any more or less. the only thing it has over us is the GPU is much better. However there is no game that is able to tax what we have so it doesn't matter..
As for quadrants I have gotten between 3000 and 4000 depending on the setup at the time. but I would prefer 2500 and a smooth device over a 4000 and jumpy menus..
And t Mo's 4G < or 3G what ever> is great, especially when you compare it to Sprints pathetic speeds. I get between 13 and 20 mbps down and over 2 mbps up.. not to far off of LTE.
Well said.
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I also switched over to Tmobile from Sprint last year and agree about sprints Wimax being pathetic compared to tmobiles hspa. I loved my evo but customer service and 4g for Sprint was garbage. And the sgs2 is by far the best phone out right now
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Benchmarking weirdness

I just want to know if anyome can explain why when running antutu benchmarks I cant even get scores equal to the score the app says I should be getting for this phone let alone better ones. Infact I often get much worse scores not even close to what it says I should be getting. Even more so Im running custom rom with overclocked kernel and its just sad. When u look to see what your device other are gettibg score wise there is like a major difference. I get like 10,000 to like 14,000. Iv tried using set cpu to make it run better with no success. And I tried using the app that came with the kernel to make it better by changing some settings and still nothing. It seems like nothibg I do can even get me scores that the phone should get as an average let alone better ones even when overclocked and such.
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Funny you should post this...
I was angonizing over my scores a month or so ago, and was not getting scores even close to what I expected.
The tests made me so mad I gave up and went stock...LOL
Benchmarks are affected by soooooo many variables within the OS, they are often considered eye wash for speed related results.
The rom you run, the kernel, modem, background processing, data, wifi....blah blah blah....LOL
You see where I'm going with this ??
Stock TW based builds always run the best for me, and give the best scores...(remember, they dont mean much really).....really
If your device runs well, gets good battery life, and you are happy with the choice in roms you have made, then dont worry about antutu, or anything else.
Raw scores are called raw for a reason, as they are base estimates of a perceived result.
True testing of a device must be done under a set of rules only a factory can measure.....IMHO, and unless the devices being tested are paired "EXACTLY" the same, then the comparisons are flawed anyway......at least thats how i see it.....g
I understand that and I know how it affects but its more of a I do notice when my phone is quick or not and the scores usually reflect that. When I had my optimus g with it running alot more crap I was gettibg betyer scores and it wasnt overclocked and all that it was just stock. So I really believe that it should be running better than its showing leaving me to believe that there is somethibg wrong with the kernel or something. I have done this with quite a few devices and there usualky a noticeable difference from stock to overclocked scores. But with this phone seems like it dosent show on this phone.
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Very possible. ..
Most reports for this quad core tell us that overclocking takes the device a bit backward in speed and performance.
I overclocked for a few weeks, and saw no appreciable performance gains.
The end result for me was a stock variant rom and a stock kernel.
I then gained transition speeds with launcher changes.
Nova launcher, with the transition speeds set to maximum is quite impressive. And graphical transitions were running best at stock speeds.
I might get flamed for this, but I would honestly say that with minor UI adjustment, and stock kernels, this device needs very little if any real change at all to achieve the best performance.
Mileage will vary, but I'm staying rooted stock with a custom launcher.
Everything else seems to drag this device down. ..g
My real main issie is with gaming on the decice I notice glitching and slowness quite often and I just feel jipped. It is quad core 2gb of ram why is it so ****. I had the optimus g and it was amazing I only went to this phone for the screen size.
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theshamrockking said:
My real main issie is with gaming on the decice I notice glitching and slowness quite often and I just feel jipped. It is quad core 2gb of ram why is it so ****. I had the optimus g and it was amazing I only went to this phone for the screen size.
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It's been said that our note 2 is a bit lacking with the current GPU...although, a GPU overclock may help you the most, while leaving the CPU alone.
I've not tried any GPU modifications, unless the Roms I've used included them without my knowledge....g
I did try and overclock the gpu and I get vaired results I havent tried playing any of my graphically intense games yet so im not sure but I believe it may have slightly helped. Its too bad I had thought that the mali chip was better than the 330 thats in most high end phones now.
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I dont dare say that mali is poor, but I am willing to say that it does get outshined on more than one occasion....g
Thats just too bad. Maybe the note 3 will run nicer. Although if they do indeed increase the screen size again I dont think I will be abke to handle it so for my sake I hope it stays similar in size. This phone is about as big as im going to want.
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theshamrockking said:
Thats just too bad. Maybe the note 3 will run nicer. Although if they do indeed increase the screen size again I dont think I will be abke to handle it so for my sake I hope it stays similar in size. This phone is about as big as im going to want.
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Agreed....
This device is more than big enough. And overall, I'm happy with it. The performance is adequate for most applications, and unless a user pushes it really hard, the phone just runs well.
Not superb, but well....IMHO....g
gregsarg said:
Agreed....
This device is more than big enough. And overall, I'm happy with it. The performance is adequate for most applications, and unless a user pushes it really hard, the phone just runs well.
Not superb, but well....IMHO....g
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Oh I totally agree. I guess I only notice any thing because that optimus g blew me away. Considering I had previously had a htc vivid and a galaxy nexus as the best phones and so the optimus was amazing. This is more than adequate and I guess more so than the optimus as that had errors just trying to run some games. Like as if the game wasnt able to play well with the hardware. SoI more than like this phone.
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You should be trading your note for the optimal g. Benchmark scores are essentially useless and you shouldn't be bothering with them.
Seems like you would be happier with your old phone.
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theshamrockking said:
Oh I totally agree. I guess I only notice any thing because that optimus g blew me away. Considering I had previously had a htc vivid and a galaxy nexus as the best phones and so the optimus was amazing. This is more than adequate and I guess more so than the optimus as that had errors just trying to run some games. Like as if the game wasnt able to play well with the hardware. SoI more than like this phone.
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If you liked that g....just wait until the Optimus Pro hits...LOL
It's a bit cheaper built I think, but wow...It's a runner...(so they say)
check out it's specs on google....
The note3 will need to compete directly with it, and a few other choice pieces of hardware in the next 6 months if Sammy wants to stay on top.
The improvements from the note1 to this device are staggering, I can only imagine what a note3 will run like.....g
Oh yes iv read plenty about the g pro and it does sound nice iv thought about trying to trade the note for it. But I then remember the reasons I wanted the note instead. Its the dev comunity and the work that gets done. There was the boringist stuff going on over there. And plus it seems like the samsung devices hold value better and juat plane better ui than lg. Ao I like what I have juat miss some of the faster and smoother useI got out of the optimus.
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LittleRedDot said:
You should be trading your note for the optimal g. Benchmark scores are essentially useless and you shouldn't be bothering with them.
Seems like you would be happier with your old phone.
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To be honest benckmarks do matter but only if you really understand them and know how to use them. Im not just someone who sees **** score or awesome scores an decides anything. But the scores do matter. If u took a droid x and ran benchmarks and got **** scores and then ran this not you would see a difference. They matter just if you choose to see it. I know many many people who try and try to convince others that benchmarks dont matter when all a benckmark is is a test of the hardware and if u use the same program on different devices you will note the different qualitys in the scores. Showing you the pieces of hardware or software mostky hardware that is better or worse. Like with the mali vs the 330. Or the quad s4 vs I forget what is in this device. Or an amd vs a intel. They show what does what best. If you know what you are doing.
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I don't believe in benchmarks. I can run antutu and get xyz score, then run it again 10 seconds later and get abc score, then run it again 10 seconds late and lmn score, all to varying degrees. It's a gimmick.
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If the scores vary drastically its probably because of the background services and apps doing things. Sometimes there is less sometimes more. U either take that into account or you do it with a fresh phone with nothibg on it. Including no google account. Just sideload the app and then run the test and do it a few times they should be more similar.
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Regardless of scores. .. and considering the drastically different user habits, I do believe Samsung found excellent balance in both form and function with this device.
To add more power would kill battery. And drive the device size even larger.
I do feel they have a great balance here.
The note3 should become an absolute power phone if they build from this base....IMHO....g

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