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Here I am sitting and waiting in anticipation for my Desire to arrive, a question poped in to my mind.
Any idea when the next Android OS upgrade is due?
Also I know the phone is only just been released, but how often does HTC release updated for the ROM?
Android 2.1 has just been released in January along with the N1 .. no idea as when they plan to upgrade on that.
As for HTC updates, I've noticed they usually release ROM updates for their phones addressing problems and sometimes little improvements. And that might not be long from now.
I wouldn't count on the Desire getting a major OS upgrade anytime soon or ever though! Especially with the more powerful CPU/Graphics hardware coming out this year that might be required, plus their history with upgrades in previous phones.
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My experience with HTC (tornado, wizard, blackstone) are that they dont update the software. You have to rely on hacked roms for new updates.
This could be a microsoft-problem and since I now have my eyes on android I wonder if HTC will keep updating the desire...
Still no word on the froyo-update...
This alone could be an argument for buying nexus instead even if its uglied both in hardware and gui.
What do you think about this?
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My experience with HTC (tornado, wizard, blackstone) are that they dont update the software. You have to rely on hacked roms for new updates.
This could be a microsoft-problem and since I now have my eyes on android I wonder if HTC will keep updating the desire...
Still no word on the froyo-update...
This alone could be an argument for buying nexus instead even if its uglied both in hardware and gui.
What do you think about this?
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I had a Touch Pro, and since MS is the developer I would blame them not HTC for updating MS software. HTC did actually update the Touch Pro a while ago, and a second update of Winmo, should be released in due time. But I would still blame MS for their crappy 6.5 Winmo OS.
According to HTC, will Froyo come some where after Today and 12 weeks ahead. I guess that it will come rather sooner than later. And if somebody cant wait for offical OTA updates, root the device and update to Froyo.
Apparently the 23rd of June thing leaked by one of the support staff was tosh (supported by the fact that the date has been and gone and no Froyo yet!). One of HTC's spokes-people said at Google I/O that...
“We are working hard with our partners to update the HTC Sense experience on Froyo and distribute it to our customers as fast as possible. We expect to release updates for several of our 2010 models including Desire, Legend and Wildfire beginning in Q3″
Being as this is some super speedy new kernel I think its wise that they test their Sense UI to bits before issuing the update
That aside...GIVE ME 2.2 NOW!!!
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What do you mean no word? They've confirmed that it is coming, but not given a precise timescale.
Past Froyo, I wouldn't expect further updates, but I suppose there is a slim chance we'll get Gingerbread. However, since Google will be moving to yearly OS updates after that, I can't see HTC providing anything beyond that - the economics of it just don't make any sense.
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Dave
Can you update with hacked roms and get everying working with the hardware (and just loose the gui) or is it like i remembered with the wizard, problems with drivers to the camera etc.. ?
If not i guess I could transform the desire-hardware into a fully updated gingerbread-nexus in future.
Given that the OS is open source, barring specific hardware requirements, there's no reason why later versions of AOSP Android couldn't be ported to the Desire. Unlike WinMo phones, we always have the option of compiling up Android to suit the hardware.
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Dave
Ok, how many threads are going to be like this???
Yes you can flash to froyo now and loose sense ui, give a look at development section and/or use search or even google search. HTC didnt officially stated anywhere yet that Froyo is coming to Desire @blabla... However there was a leak about Froyo, which was miscommunication and actually 23rd of June was the date when Google announced the release of code of Froyo to everyone. So from that date HTC is able to work on Froyo.
And look with help of search i was able to find this http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/ and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713588
Of course they forget about old devices, Touch HD and all those other devices are outdated. I had a TD2 and it got the free WM6.5 update but after that it was DEAD for HTC.
Dude, read the threads around here. As of today HTC has officially said 2.2 will come in Q3 of this year.
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I had a TD2 and it got the free WM6.5 update but after that it was DEAD for HTC.
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Not entirely true, the TD2 did get a Sense 2.5 after the promised WM 6.5 update. After that the TD2 was pretty much dead for HTC.
yeah they do, its hard to get support for older devices lol
Im hoping that as long as google continue to update the nexus, HTC will update Desire, Anyway what I read gingerbread is trying to clean up the UI's so there will be no need for manufacturers UI's, This will make updating in the futher alot easier I guess and possible updates will be pushed for longer even thought it will change to yearly, Alot of people are stuck with the same phone for around 2 years
Im here at work and got me thinking bout the rumoured news bout Google releasing the JB 5.0 sometime this fall or workingnto release Q1 2013. News from AndroidPolice...too lazy to link it.
Im just thinking that these updates are happening way to fast. Some phones are yet to receive their ICS and yet JB is just around the corner. Also, new phones with quad will be released early/late spring..? with ICS and for some they will have to wait for another good amount of time for JB. We know that Samsung etc are never on the dot when releasing updates.
I kinda miss the days of Windows OS when they actually make you wait 2/3yrs for a new OS release. Just kinda makes it worthwhile.
All im saying is, that Google should wait until the supported phones have been updated to ICS and give them time to enjoy it. For others they will have to spend an extra money to buy the latest phone with ICS. Not really fair.
Ok im goin back to working...lol...sorta
Until we start seeing apps that don't work on somewhat new OS's I don't see it as a problem. For the most part, apps being put out now are still compatible with Froyo so why should people on Froyo care? Yes it sucks to get a new phone and not have the newest OS but what do you expect Google to do? With apple releasing yearly releases as well they need to keep up.
Google has been releasing yearly OS updates for a while now. Why the concern all of a sudden? Also, probably not worth getting worked up over unreliable rumors.
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I think one release a year is fair. With all thats evolving in the mobile landscape, an update interval any more than that will risk falling behind the competition.
A yearly update is not just to change things around for the heck of it, but to aim to improve the user experience. If the Android team has good work ready to be released, I don't see why they should hold it back because manufacturers can't get their act together. This is why we have the Nexus phones.
I completely disagree. Google's yearly release cycle means that they are always working on making Android better. Since a new major OS release comes every year, I am guaranteed to have a modern phone with a modern OS every year if I continue buying Nexii.
In my opinion it is certainly a good thing.
I dont agree with this. Wait 2-3 years for new features and fixes while other OS's (iOS and Windows Mobile) continue to have yearly updates? No thank you.
For the majority of people, whatever current Android they are on is more than enough for them. If you want to stay on the bleeding edge, you get a Nexus device.
JB probably will not be as big as an upgrade as it was from GB to Honeycomb or ICS.
How is Fall of 2012 or Q1 of 2013 too fast? It's not even spring yet. ICS was announced and released in November, I think. That is a full year, at least, in between OS changes. I think that 1 year in between OS updates is perfect. Why would you want to be stuck on an old OS when new, better features are always a good thing?
You're pretty much saying that you wouldn't mind still being on Eclair or Froyo right now. I don't know about you, but I think ICS is light years ahead of both of those OS's.
Hardware obsolescence will eventually halt fragmentation on its own. Most consumers roll over their device at the end of a contract anyway, that's just 2 years or 3 in some markets. Anyone that holds on to a phone for over three years either doesn't care about bleeding edge updates, they're happy with an old device anyway, or they've extended their device's life via custom roms. In other words, If it is January 2013 and you're still on Eclair then a) you probably don't know what 'Eclair's is and b) you're not losing any sleep over being excluded from updates.
I don't see a huge problem with the android market being 'fragmented' over 2-3 versions. It's all just optics: Android haters trumpet the fragmented platform while advocates brush it off. It shouldn't halt or slow down progress, and if it does then Google risks stagnation.
Its not that Google is going too fast, its that the other manufacturers are going too slow. 1 OS release a year shouldn't be a crazy schedule.
Am I reading this right - so you think technology advances too fast and wants it to slow down because YOU can't catch up?!
OP, please tell me that you are kidding.
Edit: I'm not flaming but simply shocked by the logic and argument.
Yes please get back to work already, sorry but I don't agree with your opinion, blame the carrier's and manufacturers as well.
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Google has been releasing yearly OS updates for a while now. Why the concern all of a sudden? Also, probably not worth getting worked up over unreliable rumors.
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The problem with these "hard and fast" Android updates is that is accelerates device obsolescence. Of the hundreds of Android handsets out there, only a dozen or two actually get these new OS'.
This isn't a problem you see in iOS devices, but it's certainly an issue with android.
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The problem with these "hard and fast" Android updates is that is accelerates device obsolescence.
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Obsolescence? So which Gingerbread device can't make calls/text/access the market/use apps after ICS is released?
Just because some other devices do things faster/different doesn't make your device obsolete. And please, look up the word 'obsolete' first before tossing it around.
I think I partially understand and agree with OP's point.
It is not the yearly update that causes concerns, but it is the rate that creates so much hardware junk that counts.
For example, Apple's 3GS still can use recent iOS, at least it is upgradable, though you wont enjoy the speed or new features etc, but you still can use your old hardware with new iOS.
For Android, one year later you phone/tablet may already be "NOT ABLE TO UPGRADE TO NEW OS" , ICS, in this case.
Too many Device Spamming there. I think it is not Google's issue, it is , somewhat the Manufacturer's issue.
Because Nexus S still able to upgrade to ICS, Nexus One , sorts of (please correct me if I am wrong!)
But thanks to million android phone manufacturers, they locked down the system and make it proprietary in certain sense. and not upgradable to future OS because they don't know their current "Feature" will or will not be shoot down by Google's future updates.
Im actually coming from the Atrix which had an announcement from Motorola that ICS release would be sometime Q3 but that would depends if there is a delay or not. I decided to put myself into a contract and decided to get the Gnex since it had the latest offering of ICS. The Atrix ICS is still running on beta.
I agree that yearly updates will improve the user experience/fixes but then again we are but a small community here on XDA that are keen into rom/mod our phones. That is even if we have Devs willing to give time and effort in regards to leak updates. If ever we dont then we are sol. Im just thinking more about the general public who has no idea or would careless bout having a modified rom but are just interested in receiving the updates in a timely manner. Also, wat if ur current phone will not be included for any more OS release? the easiest way would be to purchase the latest and up to date phones.
If lets say that my collegues are getting the ICS for their SGS2 this Q2/Q3. Then JB will be released Q4/Q1 2013. The Google phones will be updated by either official or leak. Also i cant find the link but there was a stat released i few weeks ago stating that there are only 1% or 2% of phones that are currently running ICS.
Its frustrating for an average user having to sit next to a person with the latest OS release and wondering when they will get theirs.
For me, since im on ICS i dont care but when i was using my Atrix i had to settle for a mediocre beta ICS. :banghead:
@jiwengang - Thank you! Im glad someone here at least partially gets my point.
...now to get back to doin some real work.
I agree with others in that it's the hardware manufactures that are the problem, not Google.
1 year OS updates are fine. We just don't need 20 damn variations of the same phone from the same manufacture within that same year. The manufactures can't support all the different hardware configurations they are spewing out in a timely manner, so it takes ages to get updates, if you get them at all.
Dang manufactures need to focus more, stop trying to one up each other every 2 weeks. And support what they release more timely.
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Am I reading this right - so you think technology advances too fast and wants it to slow down because YOU can't catch up?!
OP, please tell me that you are kidding.
Edit: I'm not flaming but simply shocked by the logic and argument.
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Not everyone has either the same knowledge or bottomless pocket that they can sport the latest and greatest phones. I still have a friend who I recently just flashed his SE X10 with GB 2.3.5. Though SE mentioned bout an ICS upgrade sometime in the future of who knows when.
Similar to the PC industry. A gamer will build a pc gamer rig with i9/FX with crossfire/sli etc...If you look at it now, the hardware has reached its peak. You can pretty much play any games these software companies throw at you. It is now the software ie: Games, trying to play catch up and entice gamers with more 'extra' dazzling features or effects to maximize ur hardwares potential. Back then, it was the other way around
If u use a console then its a different story.
Yes, it is shocking. Not everything works as smoothly as butter like ICS.
Yearly release / change of Android OS makes really senses to me.
I don't think I can wait for 2-3 years for an update / release.
that's why I got a nexus!
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You are really losing focus as to what Jellybean actually is. All it is is an updated Ice Cream Sandwich. Yes, ICS was a huge jump from Gingerbread, because of the tablet/phone unification so there were major changes with the UI. That probably won't be the case with the next update. But if you remember the jump from froyo to gingerbread that wasn't a big deal huh? Googles cute little names cause too much confusion with consumers that don't understand software updates. 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3...just updates.
Multi touch bug ftl and slow multitasking.
Was really hoping Google would solve these problems earler
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hurricurry said:
Multi touch bug ftl and slow multitasking.
Was really hoping Google would solve these problems earler
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Multi touch bug is a complete killer. Really can't wait for 4.0.4 AOSP hopefully soon
The news is that not everyone is on 4.0.2 yet. If you can't wait then grab a custom rom, otherwise a whole lot of patience may be necessary.
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The news is that not everyone is on 4.0.2 yet. If you can't wait then grab a custom rom, otherwise a whole lot of patience may be necessary.
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Totally true.
Google is not really considering Galaxy Nexus a Nexus device it seems. Some other systems have gotten newer version of Android already.
At least my Galaxy Nexus runs bloatware-free official Android, even if the build is totally outdated by now. The only real benefit of having a Galaxy Nexus it seems.
Well, I actually don't think it is all that bad. The oldest ISC version out there is still only around 3 months old and better than 99% of Android's entire installation base.
The fact that a few manufacturers jumped on AOSP so soon is great and I'm happy for those users. I don't see the need to be 'first' and it doesn't sour my experience any. Google obviously thought the GN would re-fork with 4.0.3 by now but sometimes bugs get in the way of developer's best intentions.
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Well, I actually don't think it is all that bad. The oldest ISC version out there is still only around 3 months old and better than 99% of Android's entire installation base.
The fact that a few manufacturers jumped on AOSP so soon is great and I'm happy for those users. I don't see the need to be 'first' and it doesn't sour my experience any. Google obviously thought the GN would re-fork with 4.0.3 by now but sometimes bugs get in the way of developer's best intentions.
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Well yeah, but the things that annoy me are the bugs that are present in 4.0.2 and have been fixed in 4.0.4. And not only that, but also the API features of 4.0.3+ that was supposed to be the 'base' version of Android 4.0.
I don't mind how long major releases would take, but this is a small incremental update. I am just surprised that it takes so long to serve it to 'Google phone'.
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Totally true.
Google is not really considering Galaxy Nexus a Nexus device it seems. Some other systems have gotten newer version of Android already.
At least my Galaxy Nexus runs bloatware-free official Android, even if the build is totally outdated by now. The only real benefit of having a Galaxy Nexus it seems.
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Newer versions such as what? The latest aosp is 4.0.3 and not 4.0.4. It's quite obvious that 4.0.4 is not ready.
The Galaxy nexus is a Google supported device and is a nexus.
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Well, if you look from it from the other side. Google might actually spare us from the still-bugged 4.0.3 version wich is AOSP. Also, JBQ already confirmed that the 4.0.4 version contained a "nasty bug" and wasn't ready for release.
If you look at it that way, new devices with 4.0.3 is still bugged in a way. And Google wants to keep those versions away from their current Nexus.
Just my way of being patient
Oddly enough, some of the tablets shown at MWC (on 4.0.3) had multi touch issues. This brings in a whole new strand of questions...
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In regards to the latest os .... can anyone tell me what phone has ics update already???? And I've said phone ohh and it has to be released now announced
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Multi touch bug ftl and slow multitasking.
Was really hoping Google would solve these problems earler
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I was really hoping people would stop *****ing about OTAs.
Sorry, but you all sound like a bunch of whiney kids. You'll never be satisfied because the OTAs will never be quick enough to satisfy people. Google is not going to give you nightly builds of ICS. So just calm down and wait for it to be finished and pushed out.
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I was really hoping people would stop *****ing about OTAs.
Sorry, but you all sound like a bunch of whiney kids. You'll never be satisfied because the OTAs will never be quick enough to satisfy people. Google is not going to give you nightly builds of ICS. So just calm down and wait for it to be finished and pushed out.
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You just love calling everyone whiney kids don't you?
People are pissed because we have a Nexus that for the first time, is NOT leading the way in terms of OS version. We are pissed because of the overwhelming silence from Google.
It would take them 15 minutes to post a blog on where things are at.
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You just love calling everyone whiney kids don't you?
People are pissed because we have a Nexus that for the first time, is NOT leading the way in terms of OS version.
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Yes I do. And people deserve to be given some perspective.
What do you mean? ~1% of Android devices have ICS. How is that not leading the way in terms of OS version when we're the only phone with it? Nothing has a higher OS (and don't say "omg the NS has 4.0.3!"). The Galaxy Nexus launched Android 4.
Why are you crying about not having 4.0.3/4.0.4 over 4.0.2. If its not ready, its not ready. That's why we don't have it officially yet. For all you know Google is holding off till 4.0.5, 4.0.6, or 4.1... no one knows.
Like your phone for what it is. You're like a dog chasing his tail when you get something great and always look for the next best thing. You'll spend your entire time with the device wanting more, and you'll never enjoy what you have.
Like I said in the other thread: OTA's will never come fast enough for people. If Google started pushing one every month (regardless of how what it did or didn't include/fix), it still wouldn't be fast enough because people would prefer it was 3 weeks instead, then 2 weeks, then 1 week, then nightlies. And guess what? Google isn't going to do nightly OTAs of ICS (not even close!). If you want nightlies, go build a ROM from CM source and change things for yourself. Or better yet, build straight from AOSP source and fix the bugs yourself. Make a thread for it and let people ***** at you for not fixing them faster.
maybe this is why apple is having better success in the mobile world then google and all the others.
while all i have is an old ipod touch from apple, and have GN and ACER tablet, the fact is that google ANNOUNCED 4.0.3 as THE LASTEST STABLE release, however, even on the official supported hardware i still have 4.0.2
this is why i personally compare android to the old windows mobile system.
on the old windows mobile system, if you wanted to upgrade to the latest, you had to hack the device and upgrade yourself, and even then not all devices could be upgraded to all OSs. when i talk to people about android, i still find mayself telling them that even on the official hardware you need to hack the device to get the official upgrade.
if google and all the open source will learn a little from old mistake they will build a better test environments and stop calling any buggy version an official release, or make sure that all devices be able to get the latest version when it is announced (ipod/iphone 3rd gen can still be updated to ios5 even if it can barely work with it) .
the simple fact is, the android is repeating all of the mistakes that even microsoft with WP7 have learned, and am not showing even the slightest inclinations to make a change to this inadequate system of multiversioning....
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maybe this is why apple is having better success in the mobile world then google and all the others.
while all i have is an old ipod touch from apple, and have GN and ACER tablet, the fact is that google ANNOUNCED 4.0.3 as THE LASTEST STABLE release, however, even on the official supported hardware i still have 4.0.2
this is why i personally compare android to the old windows mobile system.
on the old windows mobile system, if you wanted to upgrade to the latest, you had to hack the device and upgrade yourself, and even then not all devices could be upgraded to all OSs. when i talk to people about android, i still find mayself telling them that even on the official hardware you need to hack the device to get the official upgrade.
if google and all the open source will learn a little from old mistake they will build a better test environments and stop calling any buggy version an official release, or make sure that all devices be able to get the latest version when it is announced (ipod/iphone 3rd gen can still be updated to ios5 even if it can barely work with it) .
the simple fact is, the android is repeating all of the mistakes that even microsoft with WP7 have learned, and am not showing even the slightest inclinations to make a change to this inadequate system of multiversioning....
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I'll tend to agree with most of what you said.... Apple has this down to a T with releasing OS versions. Everyone with the previous 2 versions of the hardware is completely guaranteed to get the update the day that it comes out. Models 3 years ago may or may not get a full update, but they'll at least get a partial update (with some features pulled). You know what you're getting and you know when you're getting it. You'll never be in limbo. When Apple announces a new iOS version, they explicitly say which models will get it. The consistency is good.
WP7 is a bit better analogy of what Android has to strive for IMO. Android covers tons of carriers, devices, etc. but still needs to be able to handle pushing OTAs to everyone in a timely matter. This is a huge logistical hurdle for MS (or Google) to try jump. MS is handling it by putting very strict guidelines on what hardware can be used and what you can/can't do to the software (which is pretty much nothing). This makes the OTA process a 1000 times easier for MS to implement. What it leads to is basically knowing that the OTA update will work on all of these different devices because they're about 90% identical in hardware, and 99% identical in software. The only hurdle for them is pretty much getting carriers to accept the terms of pushing the OTA.
While Google could implement a system like this, it'd be at least a year out. Because in order for this MS-style system to work, Android would have to have specific hardware and software guidelines. The problem being that Android is open source and free, and manufacturers can really do whatever they want. They only have to follow some very relaxed "guidelines" to get GAPPS. Even if Google wanted to push OTAs to all of these phones in their current state they couldn't. Google doesn't hold the code from Samsung, HTC, LG, Huawei, and others because they're each doing it in house. There is no unifying OTA that can be pushed. Ultimately Google has no say in what happens after they certify it for GAPPS support. At that point, its between the manufacturers and carriers what is going to happen.
Google needs to start hitting manufacturers where they can, with GAPPS. Its the only closed-source part of Android and its a really really important one. They need to start forcing UI guidelines and skinning policies that let OTAs flow smoother. On the carrier side, they need to start pushing carriers to allow manufacturers to push them when its ready. Google can only do so much to carriers though. At that point they can threaten, but again its not up to Google what happens with those devices once the licenses go out. Its not a Google sale to the carrier, its a manufacturer sale. Until every phone Google sells is a Nexus, they won't be able to tell carriers what to do. Although the market share is huge for Android, it doesn't have the same unified push to bully carriers like Apple has.
....but I've got a couple other points as well on your post. You're making it sound like the Galaxy Nexus is running 4.0.2, and the rest of devices are running/being sold with 4.0.3 (the "stable" build). This is not the case. Whether its running the most "stable" build or not, the GNex is the most up to date of all Android phones out there right now. And we'll be getting stock 4.0.3 before anyone, and all of those phones being sold from this point w/ 4.0.3 will have skins attached as well.
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the GNex is the most up to date of all Android phones out there right now. And we'll be getting stock 4.0.3 before anyone
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Why doesn't the Nexus S factor into your argument?
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Why doesn't the Nexus S factor into your argument?
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First off, the Nexus S update has yet to be pushed to everyone. Its still halted because of bugs (and the NS4G doesn't have it officially, either). Second, simply because it's 4.0.3 doesn't mean that it's "better" than 4.0.2 on the Galaxy Nexus. For all intents and purposes, it's the same update... look at the NS4G and NS on Gingerbread. One was on 2.3.5, the other on 2.3.7... doesn't mean one was better than the other, but simply the NS4G needed specific build # because its a different device.
If you're splitting hairs of 4.0.3 vs. 4.0.2 to try and win this argument, it's not going to work.
now here is where we can start the argument... 4.0.3 is better then 4.0.2 if only due to the codex hardware fix.
But that is not the question. The issue is it was officially released as latest stable, however only after official release somehow all of a sudden the official Google phones are full of bugs and it is not good for them. If it is not developed and tested on the official hardware, then why put the official stamp on everything? Where is Google QA? Why buy Google official devices if we cannot even get the minimum we expect from the name? Pay attention, I am not talking about vendor devices, only on official stamped device/software....
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You just love calling everyone whiney kids don't you?
People are pissed because we have a Nexus that for the first time, is NOT leading the way in terms of OS version. We are pissed because of the overwhelming silence from Google.
It would take them 15 minutes to post a blog on where things are at.
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Couldn't have put it better myself. Google really needs to pull its **** together and give us some of that 4.0.4 goodness!
Thank god for unlockable bootloaders and XDA devs, huh. Oh, wait......
From my point of view (and mine only) I knew the nexus would have an unlockable boot loader, I knew there would be a root exploit before I even brought the device and I knew the devs here would provide better then Google themselves, that's why I personally, brought the phone. Fortunately you didn't choose HTC. The delays are longer and the devices more secure. What I'm trying to say is, make the most the the nexus and this community and get a custom ROM or makesure you choose devices in the future for the right reasons. Let's face it, very few of us brought it for the specs....
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Its official that HTC One series will get jelly bean.News is official from HTC.
Source : codenametech dot com
Did anyone think it wasn't going to happen? Here's HTC's quote:
"We know HTC fans are excited to get their hands on Google's latest version of Android. At this point in time, we can confirm that we have plans to upgrade our HTC One X, HTC One XL and HTC One S to Jelly Bean. Please stay tuned for more updates regarding device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Jelly Bean."
If you parse it, it says "we can confirm we have plans" and "stay tuned for more updates." Confirming an "update" vs. "plans for an update" are two different things and set different expectations. To me, that means it's not around the corner.
In related news, SamMobile, a 50%-reliable source for Samsung news said:
"The insiders of SamMobile reported that Samsung is testing Android 4.1 for the Galaxy S III and Galaxy S II. Samsung is almost ready to update their Galaxy S III devices to Android 4.1. There is no date planned yet but it could be around August / September."
Neither HTC nor Samsung will want their flagships updated last so sometime in the fall for the One X and SGS3 seems realistic. With a JB release being at least a couple of months away the 2.X update to 4.0.4 should occur as planned. The One S received it three days ago.
its a great news altogether.I think with all the devices that they came up with in 2012 all should be upgraded to Jelly bean.
Not the v apparently.
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There's a term called "planned obsolescence." It's pretty much designing products so that they'll never be equal to the "new and improved" product causing people to always want and hopefully purchase the "next big thing." Google wants the manufacturers to keep their devices current so that at any given time the majority are on latest and greatest Android OS. The manufacturers want the opposite; people buying-up to a new device to get the new bells and whistles. With ICS out for ten months and only 10% of devices on it I'd say the manufacturers are winning. Does anyone really think it takes companies like Samsung and HTC nine months to develop an update? Dragging their feet is intentional and there's nothing we or Google can do about it.
BarryH_GEG said:
There's a term called "planned obsolescence." It's pretty much designing products so that they'll never be equal to the "new and improved" product causing people to always want and hopefully purchase the "next big thing." Google wants the manufacturers to keep their devices current so that at any given time the majority are on latest and greatest Android OS. The manufacturers want the opposite; people buying-up to a new device to get the new bells and whistles. With ICS out for ten months and only 10% of devices on it I'd say the manufacturers are winning. Does anyone really think it takes companies like Samsung and HTC nine months to develop an update? Dragging their feet is intentional and there's nothing we or Google can do about it.
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Yes but for this question of "planned obsolescence" We need S-OFF in all phones........quickly
g3rm3n said:
Yes but for this question of "planned obsolescence" We need S-OFF in all phones........quickly
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For all we know locking their phones and eliminating the warranty for unlocked devices could be HTC's way of preventing or scaring people from getting the "latest and greatest" on their own and therefore having to purchase the Two X, Three X, and so on. In other words, a form of planned obsolescence. Manufacturers aren't as stupid as a lot of people believe they are. We don't like them for what they do but their well aware of why they do it and what the benefit is financially.
BarryH_GEG said:
There's a term called "planned obsolescence." It's pretty much designing products so that they'll never be equal to the "new and improved" product causing people to always want and hopefully purchase the "next big thing." Google wants the manufacturers to keep their devices current so that at any given time the majority are on latest and greatest Android OS. The manufacturers want the opposite; people buying-up to a new device to get the new bells and whistles. With ICS out for ten months and only 10% of devices on it I'd say the manufacturers are winning. Does anyone really think it takes companies like Samsung and HTC nine months to develop an update? Dragging their feet is intentional and there's nothing we or Google can do about it.
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HTC has been the fastest to produce updates on their flagships to the latest os. And it is hardly a quick process to integrate their sense into the oses.
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BarryH_GEG said:
There's a term called "planned obsolescence." It's pretty much designing products so that they'll never be equal to the "new and improved" product causing people to always want and hopefully purchase the "next big thing." Google wants the manufacturers to keep their devices current so that at any given time the majority are on latest and greatest Android OS. The manufacturers want the opposite; people buying-up to a new device to get the new bells and whistles. With ICS out for ten months and only 10% of devices on it I'd say the manufacturers are winning. Does anyone really think it takes companies like Samsung and HTC nine months to develop an update? Dragging their feet is intentional and there's nothing we or Google can do about it.
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There is also something like the competition and when caring consumers see that the competitor does give them updates they will buy from the competitor next time
godutch said:
There is also something like the competition and when caring consumers see that the competitor does give them updates they will buy from the competitor next time
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Who would that be? They all suck with some sucking worse than others. Samsung is just now starting to update their tablets to ICS. Do you think it's a coincidence that started to happen only after the G-Tab 2's have been on the market for a few months? There's zero incentive for a manufacturer to devote resources to keeping their phones updated. If Samsung started to HTC would also. But there's no motive for anyone to change what they're currently doing. Why do you think Google built their own tablet? With all their influence over the manufacturers they couldn’t get them off their asses to pay attention to a market segment Android was getting the crap kicked out of it in. If Google through Motorola starts setting new precedents others will follow. Until then the dysfunction continues.
I tired of waiting for HTC to do what is right, just give me S-Off and CM10
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Misleading title ... There is already a thread about this sticky...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740569