For the people that are not on G+ or follow a few of the cyanogenmod team members that are on it I wanted to repost what Koush said about an hour ago. I know people are waiting for CM7 on the E4GT but at the same time pestering the dev's is not going to get us anywhere and in turn could get them upset.
Epic 4G Touch Users: The devices were donated to us by RootzWiki, with absolutely no strings or expectations attached. Please stop asking for ETAs, it's extremely irritating and pretty disheartening.
Regardless, for those asking about Epic 4G Touch, here's what has been done with it so far:
The first official template/guide for building Samsung recoveries, specifically tested on Epic 4G Touch:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8296-gui...rkmod-recovery-into-samsunginitramfs-devices/
It also helped add external/internal sd card support in CWR and RM:
https://twitter.com/clockworkmod/status/130005657024856064
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/89ed0b7355e93c145bb40483db5f79766a00e7df
You may not appreciate it, since it doesn't get you CM7 immediately. But this is the kind of work that streamlines the process for future Samsung devices getting properly supported and mainlined.
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Just a reminder guys give them time and chill. It takes time to get something great for these phones.
-cid
Thanks for the update! just knowing that they are working on it has my mouth watering!
I agree with the op. Bothering developers about it will not get it done any faster. It might them quit working on it. So everyone please just enjoy your phone now and good things are coming to us.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
musclehead84 said:
I agree with the op. Bothering developers about it will not get it done any faster. It might them quit working on it. So everyone please just enjoy your phone now and good things are coming to us.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
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True, but it's still nice to hear about their progress every now and then. We hadn't heard about anything other then rootzwiki giving koush an e4gt. Can't wait to have some aosp goodness
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True, but it's still nice to hear about their progress every now and then. We hadn't heard about anything other then rootzwiki giving koush an e4gt. Can't wait to have some aosp goodness
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The fact that Samsung can't even get off their ass to fix such a serious problem like LOS much less update their phones definitely makes people antsy about getting AOSP (which also helps bring other development)
Thanks for the update! I really need to follow them on Google+
Koush is the man! Noobs....let him be.
For what its worth I don't think the hangup is Samsung and lies more in the hands of Sprint who apparently have had a Samsung update submission and haven't done anything with it...for various reasons given I don't understand.
In addition to Samsung stepping up their game since the Samsung S's releases (namely beginning with SGS2 they also tried to counter their poor update record.
During the time I had the SGS2 from April through July we had THREE Samsung updates...coming fairly quickly after known issues.
The carrier here is the roadblock.
Lesson? Get the Nexus Prime.
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The fact that Samsung can't even get off their ass to fix such a serious problem like LOS much less update their phones definitely makes people antsy about getting AOSP (whichwho also helps bring other development)
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For what its worth I don't think the hangup is Samsung and lies more in the hands of Sprint who apparently have had a Samsung update submission and haven't done anything with it...for various reasons given I don't understand.
In addition to Samsung stepping up their game since the Samsung S's releases (namely beginning with SGS2 they also tried to counter their poor update record.
During the time I had the SGS2 from April through July we had THREE Samsung updates...coming fairly quickly after known issues.
The carrier here is the roadblock.
Lesson? Get the Nexus Prime.
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The problem with the idea that Sprint is holding up the updates is three fold:
1) Why would Sprint hold up the LOS fix? They're losing money on constant credits and device exchanges.
2) Samsung has a history, no matter what carrier, of not being anywhere near prompt with updates.
3) Also, why would Sprint hold up updates for only Samsung devices? Other device makers don't seem to have issues.
I think the fact is, Samsung sees the international market as more important than the U.S., and is even less concerned with the CDMA market.
I am so exited! Got my phone and stock drove me CRAZY within a few hours. The folks at CM seriously spoil us. We are so lucky to have them. I don't know why the small group of geniuses at CM can develop a ROM that is AWESOME and the stock ROMs suck so bad. I mean, she wouldn't anyone want to know what their battery percentage is, or have options for their dock and lock screen style, or not throw their battery and performance in the dumpster!
Not only does CM put out awesome ROMs in a timely manner, they do it across like twenty devices and eight manufacturers for free! ! ! Friggin miraculous. Anyway, thank you! Let's not be impatient because the miracle takes a couple weeks longer than convenient.
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Replying for in this thread for a bump. Please stop pestering the devs. CM7 will be ready for our devices when it's ready.
chunology said:
Please stop pestering the devs. CM7 will be ready for our devices when it's ready.
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Really?
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Why do people bug the crap outta the poor devs. Best thing to do is don't get the device right when it comes out if you can't wait. KOUSH and the other devs have life's. He will bring it in time believe it.
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How do I follow Koush on G+?
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How do I follow Koush on G+?
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http://tinyurl.com/6l2gqny
and
http://tinyurl.com/6xkhxaa
Post of the week
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http://tinyurl.com/6l2gqny
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http://tinyurl.com/6xkhxaa
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Hey Nifnard,
How would I know his actual handle?
I know how to search in G+ and when I searched for Koush a log of profiles came up. I bet you were giggling like a little school girl when you were posting.
People on this website are full of themselves. I miss the old XDA.
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Hey Nifnard,
How would I know his actual handle?
I know how to search in G+ and when I searched for Koush a log of profiles came up. I bet you were giggling like a little school girl when you were posting.
People on this website are full of themselves. I miss the old XDA.
Sent from SGSII.
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Dude, it was in light fun.. you really need to lighten up a little bit there. and if you click the second link it googles his name and "google plus" which the first link that comes up, is his profile.. http://tinyurl.com/6xkhxaa
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holy **** that was hilarious. i never did get how people using android phones dont get how easy it is to google something. its a verb for god sake, just do it lol
MaliceOmega said:
holy **** that was hilarious. i never did get how people using android phones dont get how easy it is to google something. its a verb for god sake, just do it lol
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Google is a verb. So true. All my friends and family members probably think I'm an asshole because I google everything on my "google phone" to prove everyone is wrong. Sadly I prove myself wrong too at rare occasions.
Related
http://teamwin-recovery.blogspot.com/2011/12/developer-burn-out-and-addiction.html
He says he will fulfill his obligation to finish our recovery. The point I'd like to make is that people need to backup off developers and just let them work.
This is happening far too often.
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I feel for him because I know what it's like from developing a MUCH MUCH smaller app, it gets very annoying.
At the same time though, I hate seeing these posts and how the devs let the community get them so worked up, we're all human but things like this you need to be able to deal with and know they will happen.
Hope the dev can enjoy his holidays and
He's definitely getting a donation from me when we get TWRP. No question.
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I feel like the ET4G users are more grateful after reading that. I mean, that ICS thread had almost or over $2k in pledges. I'm sure he will be happy with how our community, for the most part, acts and reacts after he releases.
Anyone else know immediately that it was Agraben as soon as they saw Teamwin mentioned?
I "kinda" feel for the guy, but he's always been very much of a "loves to dish it out, but can't take it" kinda guy.
When Team Alpharev or whatever beat them out for s-off on the HTC devices, he about had a meltdown.
He went full-hostile to pretty much the world for a while (on Twitter, at least), so much that the rest of Teamwin was doing the "we don't know this guy" dance for a bit.
Either way, though, I don't wanna wish anyone bad news, so I hope he gets it all worked out, because he's very much a hell of a developer, one of the best. (And it's very right-on for him to fulfill his obligations.)
He wrote they only received $500 on the hdmi port. I thought there was a bounty for that. I don't remember the amount but I think it was larger than $500. I will try to confirm but if it is true, than another bounty that failed.
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He wrote they only received $500 on the hdmi port. I thought there was a bounty for that. I don't remember the amount but I think it was larger than $500. I will try to confirm but if it is true, than another bounty that failed.
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Which is why bounties need to be done away with completely. Some people seem to pledge just to see the amount get high enough that it will "light a fire" under the devs. Then, when the product is released, they don't follow through on their pledge, but use the product anyway.
I know that the other members from team win haven't been so active and we may be witnessing the end. Heck one of them posts about how much he likes his I phone
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I know that the other members from team win haven't been so active and we may be witnessing the end. Heck one of them posts about how much he likes his I phone
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Yeah, and he freaking loves it, and won't shut up about it.
(but he's more of a "graphics guy" than a real dev.....)
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Which is why bounties need to be done away with completely. Some people seem to pledge just to see the amount get high enough that it will "light a fire" under the devs. Then, when the product is released, they don't follow through on their pledge, but use the product anyway.
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+ a million to that.
mazook98 said:
Yeah, and he freaking loves it, and won't shut up about it.
(but he's more of a "graphics guy" than a real dev.....)
+ a million to that.
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Shinzul.... Who spearheaded the Wimax movement doesn't seem involved at all and he was part of the heart of the team.
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Shinzul.... Who spearheaded the Wimax movement doesn't seem involved at all and he was part of the heart of the team.
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Whoa.... I was referring to Shift.
I have no qualms with Shinzul, as I've never exchanged one word with him.
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Just got the Christmas HD wallpaper. Thanks for the info!
This will make my GF jelly belly of my phone lol.
naripsta said:
Just got the Christmas HD wallpaper. Thanks for the info!
This will make my GF jelly belly of my phone lol.
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wrong thread?
#ontopic
I follow Agraben on twitter, I have noticed his tweets getting more and more crazy! I think part of the problem is everyone was riled up and ready for TWRP2 when he saw the communities excitement he began to add more devices to TWRP2. Daily he would tweet about adding another device whether it was a phone or tablet, his work load was growing. I began to see TWRP2 never being released due to endless device adding, lol. Then I saw the tweet where he wanted $/donations to pay for 1/2 the new Galaxy Nexus, I dont think that panned out to well and it seems he bought the device anyway. That would be enough to tick any one of our wives off! And we all know it the wife isnt happy, neither are we, lol. If he had dropped the recoveries he had for the devices that were ready 2 months ago, things may be a bit different. People might be riled up to send some donations that way, but the endless device adding got everyone down, myself included.
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Whoa.... I was referring to Shift.
I have no qualms with Shinzul, as I've never exchanged one word with him.
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I was talking about shift also in my original post... I was just stating that also on the team Is Shinzul who has been really quiet. I'm not saying I had qualms about him ust that he has been quiet for a long time. He was really cool and gave updates on stuff he was working on.
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wrong thread?
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I follow Agraben on twitter, I have noticed his tweets getting more and more crazy! I think part of the problem is everyone was riled up and ready for TWRP2 when he saw the communities excitement he began to add more devices to TWRP2. Daily he would tweet about adding another device whether it was a phone or tablet, his work load was growing. I began to see TWRP2 never being released due to endless device adding, lol. Then I saw the tweet where he wanted $/donations to pay for 1/2 the new Galaxy Nexus, I dont think that panned out to well and it seems he bought the device anyway. That would be enough to tick any one of our wives off! And we all know it the wife isnt happy, neither are we, lol. If he had dropped the recoveries he had for the devices that were ready 2 months ago, things may be a bit different. People might be riled up to send some donations that way, but the endless device adding got everyone down, myself included.
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Yeah, it's not like he's a lead chip designer for Nvidia or anything at his day job... (Oh, wait... he IS...)
Doesn't Nvidia pay their employees a good salary? I would think that they would, but who knows..
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Yeah, it's not like he's a lead chip designer for Nvidia or anything at his day job... (Oh, wait... he IS...)
Doesn't Nvidia pay their employees a good salary? I would think that they would, but who knows..
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I would think he brings in a good check, but thats still $750 two weeks before Christmas.
Whoops, wrong thread indeed LOL.
Its a fine line that many dev's have to walk; one side of them loves to work on new devices and the challenge of getting something to work on a device can be very intoxicating..On the other hand, it takes away from your personal life, and, eventually, the moochers, leechers, and the folks who feel they are entitled to everything and anything for free just because the registered of a web forum, drives away the creative, sharing folks who make the great software that we get to play with on our phones..
Frankly, even if he got paid for all the things he has developed for smartphones, it wouldn't make a differences, because, the first jerk bait, who complains about having to wait for an update, would just set him off again..
Any dev posting stuff on XDA, has to think about how they will deal with all the obnoxious ass wipers who seem to have overrun what used to be a fun, and exciting place to interact with others; its not just XDA that has this issue now, its pretty much every "Free" web forum that offers software and programs for anyone who can figure out how to register..
Maybe a "membership fee" type site, would help keep some of the worst, most obnoxious, douchebags out??
^ indeed.
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Free to read with a small fee to post in Dev forums (free for recognized devs) would work for me.
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We had a bounty for bubby to get the money to buy our phone. And I remember there was one guy who (was awesome!!) donated over $200 as well as gave bubby a computer for him to work on.
I have been following bubby on his twitter and it doesn't seem that he's working on our phone. He's working every day but just not on our phone, not at all.
But, by simply looking at his twitter it's not entirely clear whether he is or not working on our phone. I hope it's just me that read it wrong.
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Several people confirmed that he's working on his Epic 4G Touch, not our phone. He has not posted a single twit regarding anything he has done / is doing / is considering doing for our phone. He has not been responding to my questions on twitter, and people have been saying he either dance around when asked about our phone or not respond at all.
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I know the concept that a donation is a donation and is not like you are paying for something, but...
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While he has not developed a thing for any phone other than his own Epic 4G Touch, he has been asking for donation for numerous other phones. We should probably interfere and refer the people in other forums (potential victims) to this thread.
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Just a thought, whoever donated, are you able to charge it back through your credit card company with a reason of "service not delivered"? If you are lucky maybe you can get your money back? I know it's a "donation" but bubby did promise in the bounty thread to deliver lots of stuff, he even said he already got ICS booted etc and played us with "here's a bunch of goodies coming up from me just donate to me and stay tuned" ****.
If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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Lmao, how pathetic.
Hard lesson learned for those involved? Sure.
Kick in the balls from his part? Absolutely.
How is that not 100% theft? Atleast fundamentally.
To the laptop owner, has he sent that back?
By looking at his twitter it's not exactly clear whether bubby is or not working on our phone. Can someone else share some opinion?
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If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
tweak. said:
Lmao, how pathetic.
Hard lesson learned for those involved? Sure.
Kick in the balls from his part? Absolutely.
How is that not 100% theft? Atleast fundamentally.
To the laptop owner, has he sent that back?
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Maybe he hasn't got around to work on our phone yet I hope?
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If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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Sorry for my ignorance but what's the answer to my question? Can you please spell it our explicitly for me?
We have the same info as you, dude.
The thread you referenced: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318854&page=8
And his Twitter. Ask him directly for a 'better answer' but, I think he's made it pretty clear he doesn't know wtf he's doing.
Thread question answered.
Wow.....well I think this is pretty messed up....
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wow this guys gone, he just got a free laptop and a brand new samsung galaxy s2.
an undesrieable leech...
Its sad but truthfully some can be misleading as we all know. What is done here is in fun hobby and practice...to donate is great and needed....but only after said item has been created...
Moral wise...f ya its wrong and ill never support his present or future work.
Reality .... he probably cares less and can only verbally be punished....I think much more in order such as ban of account or other....
To mislead and not give up what was given....well some can be gutter trash here but hopefully not to long........
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We had a bounty for bubby to have our phone. And I remember there was one guy who (was awesome!!) donated over $200 as well as gave bubby a computer for him to work on.
I have been following bubby on his twitter. It doesn't seem that he's working on our phone. He's working hard every day for sure but just not on our phone, not at all.
But, by simply looking at his twitter it's not entirely clear whether he is or not working on our phone. I hope it's me that read it wrong.
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He is not working on our phone... He is working on his personal device Epic 4G Touch
I know... Sucks
its not the first time he does this, maybe you guys should've checked this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926461&page=2
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its not the first time he does this, maybe you guys should've checked this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926461&page=2
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Wow. I'm definitely glad that I didn't donate. I'd only donate to devs that I can vouch for, like Faux, Slayher, etc. Hopefully Bubby didn't violate any of you guys who has donated. Maybe he's working on something big.
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I brought this up in his bounty thread and everyone doubted me. Real devs can get their own phone. Simple as that. Someone should ask luckyduck or something in these forums; claimed to be his "tester".
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I think its effed up especially after just reading what mickeycobra04 posted about other thread. **** is nuts well deja vu if u wanna get technical. And the crazy part is right when the s2 came out he made stock kernel tar the stock recovery and i think a few other things. He basically reeled everybody in so they would know he wasnt just a nobody and could develop a little then he says cm, ics, asop and that rite there was like music to our ears so we start donating and he stays active. Then after some time he gets his phone and a laptop! And posted like 2 times since. Now i know everyone has lives and **** like that but cmon bro its been a month maybe a little less. Bring something to the table man it aint cool.
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Sorry for my ignorance but what's the answer to my question? Can you please spell it our explicitly for me?
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at the risk of being a **** to a 15 year old kid, let me try to help you understand. if you go over to the fascinate/continuum forums and ask them about bubby, you will hear nothing good about the kid. he has been making promises to android users for a while now, and RARELY coming through with anything more than a system dump or a stock kernel here and there. i know its said that donating with expectations isnt donating, but in the android community, why do people donate? we want to see someone make **** happen. well, this kid is a talker and not a doer. i donated to help get roman his gs2, i was rewarded with jugs(kernel), and juggernaut(rom). in the future, people should do a little more research before they dive in and give a person(15 year old kid) money for a phone, or a laptop.
He is in the skyrocket forums asking for donations also. I hate to say it but I seriously think he is in the wind folks. Its sad because this will prevent people from donating to serious developers. I have a corporate T-mo account and we got 25 galaxy s2's as a promo and he begged me for one of them and I was very close to sending him one in the beginning but thank god my very smart wife told me I'd be crazy to send some kid that I dont know from adam a 600 dollar phone. Well live and learn and just hope that maybe he will still come thru. But not looking to likely. Hell team kang has released 3 roms since Bubby supposedly got his phone.
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I brought this up in his bounty thread and everyone doubted me. Real devs can get their own phone. Simple as that. Someone should ask luckyduck or something in these forums; claimed to be his "tester".
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bubby wont use a tester on anything "valuable". hes a gloryhound. everyone should follow his tweeter and see his ridiculous tweets. its comedy.
http://twitter.com/#!/bubby323xda
I think that those that whove donated should bomb the Skyrocket, Epic and whatever else thread Bubby frequents towards get the message across. Post the links of these threads that shows proof of Bubby not delivering what he claim he'd deliver and maybe he'll answer.
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This is the ONLY thread that will be allowed for ICS discussion, all others will be locked/deleted, and persistent abusers will earn an infraction or a ban - I'd rather not do that!
reinbeau said:
This is the ONLY thread that will be allowed for ICS discussion, all others will be locked/deleted, and persistent abusers will earn an infraction or a ban - I'd rather not do that!
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Thank God! I love you man ( As a MOD I mean )
We'll get ICS when we get it, simple as that!
~Eugene
I think we should storm T-Mobile's headquarters Matrix-style to get the source code, then hand it to the very capable developers here to finish it in a day or two. What say you?
Good idea... but I think the topic "ICS" is too general. How would we be able keep track of what the issue at hand is? Different groups of people could be talking about different things here at the same time.. if we keep it to "ONE" official forum for ICS. And it would just end up for a lot of us to do page searching.
There is only one issue at hand:
The T989 doesn't have ICS/Samsung source code.
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Good idea... but I think the topic "ICS" is too general. How would we be able keep track of what the issue at hand is? Different groups of people could be talking about different things here at the same time.. if we keep it to "ONE" official forum for ICS. And it would just end up for a lot of us to do page searching.
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They post it in the proper Q&A section.
eugene373 said:
Thank God! I love you man ( As a MOD I mean )
We'll get ICS when we get it, simple as that!
~Eugene
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What he said!
Come on Tmobile things have seem to been heating up with ICS ?!
Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
jmercil said:
Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
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LMFAO
Samsung + Tmobile + updates = Buy a new phone. Sorry, but this has always been an issue everyone always talked about with Sammy and T-Mobile. Things never change. They even posted it on FB like we are awesome, your carrier Blows! Have a nice day.
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Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
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Came here to post this (Samsung just tweeted and FB'd it). Y'all are fast!
Well, this is very depressing. I guess I'll be hopping on the SIII bandwagon soon.
As happy as I am with the T989 on Gingerbread, I want the latest and greatest. T-mobile has failed me once again. All of this Galaxy S II ICS news from other carriers, the ICS update for the S II for Tmo UK users, and now we get a message "in the coming months". That's sort of... heartbreaking to say the least.
Would source from skyrocket ics be enough for us to get decent battery life from a port ?
gawd ........ some how I thought them releasing source as fast as they did would change how they do things. I think its time we start jumping their a*ses again
If we dont show support for the galaxy s3 maybe they will pull their heads out of their butts.
I freakin love the phone but I'm tired of all they stupid excuses. You can still release source or some crap.
And I would love to have someone with a lot more followers tweet this !
A response from Tmobile
Time to spam Telus website.
- taz b.
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Exactly what I thought. They arent going to tell use until they push out the update. Apple does a somewhat similar few days notice.
It is annoying on both ends. Tmobile should realize they arent Apple and a software update isnt the press equivalent of realizing a new phone.
I've already gave up on this phone getting an official update , already accepted that ill have to get another phone so i will choose wisely next time, honestly the only thing that keeps me with T-Mobile is wi-fi calling if they ever stop that then I see no reason to stay with them
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I've already gave up on this phone getting an official update , already accepted that ill have to get another phone so i will choose wisely next time, honestly the only thing that keeps me with T-Mobile is wi-fi calling if they ever stop that then I see no reason to stay with them
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You sir have a point.
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gawd ........ some how I thought them releasing source as fast as they did would change how they do things. I think its time we start jumping their a*ses again
If we dont show support for the galaxy s3 maybe they will pull their heads out of their butts.
I freakin love the phone but I'm tired of all they stupid excuses. You can still release source or some crap.
And I would love to have someone with a lot more followers tweet this !
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Probably would be useless, the small number of users that actually know of or care about an update is nothing compared to the amount of people that just buy a phone because it looks nice or has a big screen. Most customers are oblivious. Most it would do is start a small trending topic and then it would fizzle like KONY 2012. Next thing you know your running around in public naked doing the "5 knuck backhand no drop ins". Updates are worthless to carriers usually unless its more of a Dev phone like the nexus. Which the SGS2 is not. Well atleast T-Mobile version. Money is in the contract! Hook line and sinker.
But what do I know? Nothing but what I have seen with my last three devices on T-Mobile. I don't think the SGS3 is going to be any different, ship the phone. Get the money. Rinse and repeat.
Thankfully there is a sweet dev community that can work wonders Modding and porting ROMs but I can even see now certain communities are fading out because of Vultures and demanding users plying updates updates updates. We should all chill and just enjoy what we have and work with it. Last thing you want is more talented Devs and Themers leaving a device you own because patience is not in our vocabulary. ICS will or will not come...device has only been out for several months. Look at the SGH-T959 community, strong and mad ROMs. Stuff takes time. This is a hobby for people, hobby! Something people like. Whoaaaa...way off topic. I'll shut up now. Sorry for the Opinionated rant.
Carry on.
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Sent an email to Sprint explaining my issues with battery life after ICS update. Here is the response I got. Just thought I would share
Thank you for contacting Sprint. I apologize for the inconvenience that
you have experienced with your phone.
There is no known issue related to the Software upgrade to Ice Cream
Sandwich on Samsung Galaxy SII handset.
Please visit your nearest Sprint Repair Center for assistance and ask
them to perform a diagnostic test on your phone.
To shorten your wait time at one of our stores, you can make an
appointment online or over the phone. It's easy to find a Sprint store
that is convenient for you; simply visit sprintstorelocator.com.
Alternatively, please call Sprint Technical Support at 1-888-211-4727
and follow the prompts for technical assistance. To enable testing, it
is important you call us from a phone other than the Sprint phone you
are having trouble with.
Please reply to this email or visit sprint.com if we can be of
assistance.
Sincerely,
Julie K.
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not trying to be rude but if you are on stock ics and you are having bad battery life you should probably look at your battery. Don't expect to get over a day with these phones, but stock Ics is pretty good on battery life.
I'm sorry but there is no way in hell that sprint does not know what is going on. They do know what is going on period. One good look at their forums over at sprint says so.
That email you go back looks like a standard form letter ( email ) that they just push out to get you off their backs.
Those emails are automated.
They scan for key-word phrases, and automatically respond with pre-set emails.
I can guarantee no person at Sprint read it.
They don't even copy and paste anymore, just a script that responds!
Are you sure its ICS and not some rogue program you installed?
I would suggest a hard reset and leave the phone stock (IE - not install any apps) for 24-48 hours and see if you still have battery issues.
Or it could very well be your actual battery....
I do know of one issue I have seen with a few ROMs and kernels. There is a issue where if you have the notification light enabled and you get a notification then it keeps the phone from entering deep sleep. Now I will say this issue didn't seem present on stock FF18. If you're not running a stock kernel I suggest flashing Chris41Gs stock SAFE kernel. It doesn't seem to be plagued by this bug. Just something I've noticed and thought I would share.
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Right there with you
You're not alone. There are a bunch of us having issues with the released ICS. I'm probably going to revert to Caulkin's EL29. That was the best I've had so far. I've talked to sprint and they don't seem to care too terribly much. Initially they claimed a network outage for my connection issues, but when I told them it's everywhere I go the rep didn't have much else to say. It seems that they released ICS without really testing, which is frustrating. This is as much Google and Samsung's faults as Sprints.
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You're not alone. There are a bunch of us having issues with the released ICS. I'm probably going to revert to Caulkin's EL29. That was the best I've had so far. I've talked to sprint and they don't seem to care too terribly much. Initially they claimed a network outage for my connection issues, but when I told them it's everywhere I go the rep didn't have much else to say. It seems that they released ICS without really testing, which is frustrating. This is as much Google and Samsung's faults as Sprints.
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I think its mostly Samsung and sprint fault Google has no fault in this update and of course sprint reps and techs not going to care cuz there's nothing they could do plus I'm pretty sure they hoping for Samsung to hurry up with that patch so people would stop calling them and complaining about the failure of the ics update.
Its funny cuz everyone wanted ics people here in xda well for this device was impatient and was rushing Samsung for the update which now everyone is hating it for having issues lol well this is what you get, me on the other hand I could careless for the ota because source was the major big deal once I read that ota and the leaks where the same their wasn't no reason for me to take the ota update then since there's really no difference heck I Odin back to el29 got on caulks 3.0 gb rom and I'm going to stay there till the devs finish compiling or doing what ever it is that they do with source kernel, once its ready and ics roms are better and much more stable with kernel source that's when ill go back to ics I think that's the best idea to do but I know that's kinda hard for some of you flashaholics out there.
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Not to be a ****. But, maybe this will teach people to stop rushing things.
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Not to be a ****. But, maybe this will teach people to stop rushing things.
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Your not being a **** at all its just basically the truth there's folks out here that act like little kids and are impatient to received there candy and mind you the devs that are working real hard shares and make these candies for free, heck I'm a flashaholic myself but I have other hobbies besides flashing that could keep me entertain that's what some of these folks here need if you check the dev forums you'll see so much useless post referring (omg I can't wait for the next update, or omg freaking awesome there's a from update thanks alot I'm downloading now) like if the devs doesn't know that your going to download it I mean yea its good to give your respect and good comments and such but I think instead of cluttering the dev forums with useless non info about issues the bad and the good about the rom just hit the thanks button for these incredible devs.
Geez sorry I just had to rant cuz idk how these mods and devs can handle it
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LOL, wow, apparently opened a can of worms here. The point of my post was merely to let other xda users know that I contacted sprint and they told me there is no known issue with the ICS update on the E4GT.
Love you all
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Not to be a ****. But, maybe this will teach people to stop rushing things.
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You do realize there were 3 weeks without an RDF? Sprint couldn't take that into thought to make bug fixes? There's plenty of time for us to wait.
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I guarantee most people problems will be fixed if they did a clean install. Not many people were *****ing when it was just a leak. When i was running FF18, battery was as good as GB. I got 5+ hours of display time.
I had great battery life on most if not all of leaks. The difference was, I almost always did clean installs. I'd bet the battery issues are related to old GB app data not playing nice on the ICS base, which is why most that have done a factory reset after upgrading to ICS have seen their battery life improve.
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I had great battery life on most if not all of leaks. The difference was, I almost always did clean installs. I'd bet the battery issues are related to old GB app data not playing nice on the ICS base, which is why most that have done a factory reset after upgrading to ICS have seen their battery life improve.
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couldn't agree more... additionally to vent a little since this seems like a good post to do it in I'm getting really tired constant onslaught of "bug" posts about the stock ics ota... most of them are specific to the user and not an actually bug ( ie "this isnt exactlly the same as it was in gingerbread im anggggry" ) and it doesn't seem to be appropriate for xda... take that sort of stuff to the sprintusers forums, the devs here are not going to be patching the stock ota for you. If you find an actual bug in a dev's rom please use the dev thread to report it, the dev will thank you, and believe it or not this is the actual point of the dev threads, despite what the thousands of posts saying "omg rom update thanx you!!!1!1 flashing now" would lead you to believe ( use the damn thanks button as opposed to cluttering up the dev thread, that's why its there)....ugh, this place would be a lot better if people would learn to use the damn search bar as well, as its not super fun to see the same questions in thread after thread.... also get off my lawn... /end rant
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couldn't agree more... additionally to vent a little since this seems like a good post to do it in I'm getting really tired constant onslaught of "bug" posts about the stock ics ota... most of them are specific to the user and not an actually bug ( ie "this isnt exactlly the same as it was in gingerbread im anggggry" ) and it doesn't seem to be appropriate for xda... take that sort of stuff to the sprintusers forums, the devs here are not going to be patching the stock ota for you. If you find an actual bug in a dev's rom please use the dev thread to report it, the dev will thank you, and believe it or not this is the actual point of the dev threads, despite what the thousands of posts saying "omg rom update thanx you!!!1!1 flashing now" would lead you to believe ( use the damn thanks button as opposed to cluttering up the dev thread, that's why its there)....ugh, this place would be a lot better if people would learn to use the damn search bar as well, as its not super fun to see the same questions in thread after thread.... also get off my lawn... /end rant
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That's the number one thing that annoys me just seeing the same questions after post after post for example look at Chris 41 new thread for his new kernel in the op it states everything you need to know I mean everything and yet folks still tend to ask I feel like if your not going to read then don't flash at all cuz the dev do what they can and post all the info that is needed so folks won't have to clutter the dev forums with the same questions over and over but it seems like folks these days are to lazy to read or are just straight up dumb.
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LOL I just got a reply from sprint.... kind of makes me laugh here is the whole email thread:
Dear XXXXX,
Thank you for your contact via [email protected] regarding the upcoming launch of the Android Ice Cream Sandwich update. Sprint is very excited to provide the features of this exciting software to include new home screen folders and favorite tray, resizable widgets, new lock screen actions just to name a few, we are current fully engaged with our software team and thoroughly testing the software in efforts of avoid any launch failures.
It is projected that the software will be available for launch by the end of July 2012. We appreciate your patience while we strive to deliver the best customer experience possible.
Thank you for using [email protected]. Your business is appreciated.
Demetre B.
757-223-3363
[email protected]
Get the best value for your money & exercise your freedom to change plans anytime without penalties - we promise!
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Dear Sprint,
You recently pushed the ICS update that was long awaited for , for the Samsung Epic Touch. For many people including myself this has been an absolute nightmare. I encourage you to look at your own forum and see the amount of commotion as well is frustration this problematic update has caused. I employee to take action and address the issues now at hand. Please see the links below:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...amsung_epic_4g_touch?view=discussions&start=0
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/94318?tstart=0
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/94326?tstart=0
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/94156?tstart=0
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/94157?tstart=0
There are many more complains on other sites such as XDA and android central. Please help you customers get out of this dilemma you have now
forced them into.
Sincerely,
XXXX XXXXXXX,
kali323 said:
I guarantee most people problems will be fixed if they did a clean install. Not many people were *****ing when it was just a leak. When i was running FF18, battery was as good as GB. I got 5+ hours of display time.
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I have stock (completelly stock) EL29 Samsung epic touch 4g and I updated via a sprint update (legal) and my phone reboots constantly and battery life is not that good. I know is not the battery because prior to that I went all day with one charge.
use stock mail, text, phone and contacts the only program not stock is the go launcher.
So I think a clean install might not be the solution.
Hehehe i hope nobody read my pre coffe nerd rage.
Sorry, all!
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I guarantee most people problems will be fixed if they did a clean install. Not many people were *****ing when it was just a leak. When i was running FF18, battery was as good as GB. I got 5+ hours of display time.
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Multiple have said and multiple have replied stating this did nothing for them including myself.
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heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Most progress updates happen in IRC chat. irc.freenode.net #lg-optimus-g
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spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Heya, believe it or not we are both coming from the same place. I loved my EVO 3D and hacked it to the max. However, has the months went by the phone's specs were no longer "flagship" quality. As a result, I went with LG OG after much and I mean much research. To your answer it is not empty but it just in hibernation until Jelly Bean is released, which is going to happen at any time very soon for Korean already has it (End of Jan I hope). So the devs are holding back releases for roms until JB but CM and ASOP are all in development as we speak.
Great Link for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064215
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083320
P.S - It is SOOO much easier to root and unlock this phone compared to our EVO 3D. Even a one click tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039421
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^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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Space, I don't have a wide berth of knowledge to give you, as this is only my 2nd Android smartphone. That said, the development here is severely lacking. There were a lot of hotshots promising things they couldn't deliver early on (like this phone is exactly the same as the Nexus 4, lol). They say all the action happens in IRC but log in there. Try it. Back yet? Didn't learn **** did you? No one talks about development there. It's like a business meeting about more meetings. They talk about what they need to be developing.
In the end, I'm not helping, so I can't really complain, but it's slightly frustrating to have a beast of a phone that no one is improving. Least of all LG. When I've attempted to get information I've been ignored or given the "we don't really know" SLASH "stfu kid" response. If you find good development news I'd love to see it.
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Many of us work, I work full time and have kids. Plus I have several other projects. If you honestly think nothing is getting done, maybe you should check github. Look at the amount of work being done towards cm10.1 for the lgog.
Not all development is ROMs and themes. Most of it happens before you see those ROMs and mods. Sure I could copy paste a rom together on my phone and call it something. Then everyone would think it was so cool, but the fact is it wouldn't be much different then what we already have. Will I build a stock based rom? Yes. Kernels? Yes. Aosp ROMs, yes. Some fancy aroma kitchen sink mod. Yup. Will I be doing this all within a week of getting the device and doing my research on it? Nope. There are like 20 sensors on this phone. Not to mention a ton of testing on kernels, what's bloat, what's a proprietary driver/lib vs source built. You need to remember that all of the development is done in peoples spare time. The phone is fast so no rush making it
Faster. The software is decent and has some decent feature without a lot of annoying issues so no rush there. Battery could be improved but thats mostly usage based. Nothing is crippled on this phone so there isn't exactly a huge rush to fix something on it. That is a good thing. We can pace ourselves and get more creative instead of fixing crap that should work already.
The biggest issue is not being jb+. That is being worked on daily by many people. I plan on helping as well but I agree with most of the devs on waiting for the korean source drop.
Give this phone time and it'll be crawling with flashy things.
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To add on to what Jokersax said, there is alot of development going on, but not as roms. CM10.1 technically works, but there is a bug that wont allow your to see anything on it. Would you like somebody to post it for you to test? We have to get a device tree going, and see what mods from other phones work here, and what we need to chance to get the different roms we build up and going. I am fairly new on the dev scene, but I am working on a rom ATM, just about to get out of the testing phase for my first public build (in the dev section). b-reezy is also working on porting MIUI, removing LG software to make it almost completely AOSP, and getting a few themes on our device, and helping me learn more as I go. We have alot of devs, but between real life events, and the time to make everything work it takes time. How long does a take big companies to get updates out that have dedicated developers? For LG it has been over a year to update one generation of android. Just be happy we can update it before that. Also if you sit enough on IRC you can find stuff (I found a flashable korean rom for our phone that boots, is english, but doesnt have 3g/4g/wifi working and such, so it is not posted here yet), but alot of it is people working in their free time, and all my talk about my work is either in my what do you want in my roms thread under Q&A, where there is already 3 test builds of my rom, and some of us are talking individually, like joker right above me, and b-reezy both talk to me daily on Gtalk the last several days to about 2 weeks for each one of them. And I cant remotely do anything as good as they can. Just wait a month or two then you will be spammed with roms and kernels to use. Try hitting up the Nook Tablet thread and see how development is going on there- I have had it over a year and there isnt even 2 dozen roms for it. It is all a matter on how locked the device is, and the drivers and such for the phone. Also we may be able to port stuff from the Nexus 4 BUT THIS IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING! We have a locked boatloader, the nexus doesnt (really big difference for dev work), plus GSM vs. CDMA radios is alot harder to dev for it seems like in the beginning. It is annoying how people complain about dev work not being fast enough yet they dont even remotely understand how any of it works. FYI we will probably have Jellybean on our device before LG releases it. 4.2 is the primary concern for the bigger devs right now. IF ANYBODY CANT FIND OUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT ON IRC JUST ASK, OR EMAIL OR GTALK ME AT [email protected] FOR MINE AND OTHER DEVS LATEST WORK. LET THEM WORK ON IT IN THEIR FREE TIME FOR FREE, AND I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WHILE I AM AT SCHOOL OR WAITING FOR PRACTICE TO START. If you payed these devs then you complain, other than that STFU. There is alot of stuff that goes on that we cant account for ahead of time.
Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Ex f'n xactly. I just appreciate anything I can get. Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. Oh God I hope I said that right!!!
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It's picking up really well. I truly love the beginning of development life for great phones. I also had the evo 3d and enjoyed it grow from cleanrom to jellybean 4.1.
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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pretty things are soon to come. Just need to gets bugs and such out. My work somewhat, but mostly others devs I have been talking to.
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I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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Agreed. Pressure should be put on LG to update and release source. This is what we need to get more things rolling.
That being said, even though this software is only ICS, this is my first Android that I don't mind stock. I've run all the versions of ZV9 so far and stock deodex with some tweaks runs wonderfully. I'm coming from Touch wiz and Sense systems where they skin and change everything. I'll always be a Vanilla head, but I'm just as stoked to see what LG does with jellybean. This stock software isn't that far from AOSP really.
Also I don't see what the hoopla is about trying to port Nexus 4. This phone has way more potential than that.
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I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
I completely agree. However, is this all that surprising? This is my first LG but it's my understanding they're notoriously bad with updates.
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^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
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are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldent you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
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Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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jokersax11 said:
no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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genaro12543 said:
Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
nickespi said:
Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
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I agree with everything you said I just think its easier to be patient when things are kept in perspective. I too am disappointed lg didn't reach they're original promise of jb by December but I'm happy the phone works great and that lg didn't hurt the software TOO MUCH so there isn't problems.
And I'm glad you said you appreciate the devs work I just didn't wanna see the opposite and assumed you were being pushy because you said you agree with that guys post that sounded very demanding just cuz he couldn't see work done on irc.
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