I use stock browser with quick controls turned on. This has happened about three times now. I'm on a forum andi have about 4 or 5 browser tabs open. I'm finishing a long letter and I'm hitting the submit button. Suddenly I'm at android's home screen. I hit the browser button and my letter is gone including all tabs.I don't know what I'm doing to cause this.i don't even know what buttonsi could hit to make all the browser tabs to close at once. Does anyone have any idea? Thanks.
You're running out of memory. If rooted, try changing your low mem settings.
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If you are running out of memory while browsing the web, there is something wrong with your unit. That should not be happening.
Is that what's really going on? I thought maybe I was hitting a combination of keys with the outer palm of my hand or something.
My evo 3d has a gig of memory (800 something useable), and to many browser tabs, plus some music playing, etc will kill my browser. It's not really out of memory per se just the oom value of the browser gets up there too high. Especially with the values most people set by default on custom roms. What's the default for the tab?
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I don't understand. How do I look that up?
It happened today also and I'm positive this time I didn't accidentally hit any buttons or keys.
Every problem I had went away when I installed Opera browser. No more crashes. No more stuttering, choppy YouTube videos. Working select text, copy, and paste. No more bumping the wrong links or accidently closing on-screen keyboard because I hit the spacebar wrong. No more opening windows because my finger accidently strayed across the screen. Everything just works now. Boy am I glad I tried Opera. If you're having any of these issues I suggest giving Opera a try.
Unfortunatly, Opera wont work for some sites that use certain javascript functions and most sites that I use break in Opera (tables & forms dont show up properly). Luckily Ive never really had a problem with the stock browser, but I think the reason why is because I have pluggins set to On Demand. If you ever feel like giving the stock browser another shot I'd highly recommend to keep the plugins set to on demand and clearing out the cache every once in a while doesnt hurt either.
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Opera wont work for some sites that use certain javascript functions and most sites that I use break in Opera (tables & forms dont show up properly).
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Could you please give some examples of sites that "break in Opera"? I am using Opera exclusively and I haven't experienced that problem.
I havent tried using Opera Moble recently, but the last time I worked with it one of my banking sites wouldn't let me login due to javascript errors that were only present while using opera. Also, I use my tablet for supporting customers while out in the field and the primary site I support does not function properly under opera (things like javascript links, the div wrapped tables and embedded videos do not display properly or sometimes not at all).
Opera is great for sites using html5 and simple javascript functions, but I cant use it as my daily driver when it wont play nice with my development stuff and refuses to render pages properly that my clients create. I want to be able to use one browser for everything, not be in the middle of a call and have to tell a customer "oh wait, give me just a sec I have to switch browsers, I forgot your site uses a ajax generated, javascript pop-up and I cant scroll it".
I'd link a specific site as an example, but it would require customer permissiions to do so since their site requires authentication but here's a charted example you can see that while opera has issues other browsers do not: www.quirksmode.org/m/table.html
For the general public though, you shouldnt have an issue.
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apologeez if this article has already been made but too excited to care. just installed skyfire on my htc touch hd and it works. go to skyfire.com and download it.
Is this likely to be better than Opera already preinstalled?
I'm afraid it's still the same upscaled vga version that's been out for a while.
clown is correct, it's still an improvement over the old skyfire with which you had to use vgaFix with (even nice then alpha), but it's still not quite it.
Also, clown, I have a question (hope you read this), since you're using Dutty's Rom....do people know that if you add where you live to the world clock, it will sync with the weather and display it in the New Appointment in Calander? I don't want to start a thread if everyone already knows.
Thanks
It does 'work', in the sense you can see Flash/video content in-page, but it's important to remember Skyfire is a proxy browser - everything goes via their own server first, and all your form filling goes back through their servers too.
I'm liking the rich media, but not enough to risk them seeing my credit card details, passwords and browsing history!
Tried it a couple of times, and tbh, it's slow as hell.
Think I'll be taking it off soon.
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It does 'work', in the sense you can see Flash/video content in-page, but it's important to remember Skyfire is a proxy browser - everything goes via their own server first, and all your form filling goes back through their servers too.
I'm liking the rich media, but not enough to risk them seeing my credit card details, passwords and browsing history!
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Somehow I doubt the $100k+ salary microsoft engineers care about your credit card number.... or would waste their time looking at your browsing history. Even if they were able to go through all that data and find your card number, you think they'd risk their job for the measily couple Ks in your bank account....ya I doubt that. Not to mention you're one of how many 100s of thousands of people using it daily. But hey, that's your perogative
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Somehow I doubt the $100k+ salary microsoft engineers care about your credit card number.... or would waste their time looking at your browsing history. Even if they were able to go through all that data and find your card number, you think they'd risk their job for the measily couple Ks in your bank account....ya I doubt that. Not to mention you're one of how many 100s of thousands of people using it daily. But hey, that's your perogative
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It's not the Microsoft bods I'd be worried about, and I believe that's the point...
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It does 'work', in the sense you can see Flash/video content in-page, but it's important to remember Skyfire is a proxy browser - everything goes via their own server first, and all your form filling goes back through their servers too.
I'm liking the rich media, but not enough to risk them seeing my credit card details, passwords and browsing history!
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What do you think; the opera mobile, o.mini, IE mobile etc. work in different way than the skyfire? You are wrong!
Like you said before : "everything goes via their own server first"
And the main benefit from it is that pages are loaded quicker.
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What do you think; the opera mobile, o.mini, IE mobile etc. work in different way than the skyfire? You are wrong!
Like you said before : "everything goes via their own server first"
And the main benefit from it is that pages are loaded quicker.
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Opera Mini uses proxying (it compresses to OBML) but in doing so they break end-to-end SSL, and so many secure sites (eBay etc.) refuse the traffic. Opera Mobile connects direct unless you specifically set up a proxy service. Skyfire uses the same concept as Opera Mini, and so breaks the SSL chain, but unlike O-mobile there's no option to turn it off. Because the proxy compression process results in unencrypted data on Skyfire's server (albeit transiently) a number of credit card companies have said the idea (based on how O-mini does it) breaks their rules on fraud protection, so the customer wouldn't be compensated if the card details were stolen.
IE Mobile on WM6.1 does not use proxying. Project Deepfish did, but that was closed in 2008 and the servers disconnected.
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Opera Mini uses proxying (it compresses to OBML) but in doing so they break end-to-end SSL, and so many secure sites (eBay etc.) refuse the traffic. Opera Mobile connects direct unless you specifically set up a proxy service. Skyfire uses the same concept as Opera Mini, and so breaks the SSL chain, but unlike O-mobile there's no option to turn it off. Because the proxy compression process results in unencrypted data on Skyfire's server (albeit transiently) a number of credit card companies have said the idea (based on how O-mini does it) breaks their rules on fraud protection, so the customer wouldn't be compensated if the card details were stolen.
IE Mobile on WM6.1 does not use proxying. Project Deepfish did, but that was closed in 2008 and the servers disconnected.
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I think it's not quite true but maybe I'm wrong. Correct me if so...
Opera does exactly the same. Both Opera and Skyfire pre-render websites through their proxies, the difference being that Opera is text-based and Skyfire is image-based.
That's why Opera loads slower and scrolls quickes (loads the whole text part of the website at once), while Skyfire loads quicker and scrolls slower (loads only the visible part as compressed image, google maps style).
I really don't understand it....everytime I go to their web page I can't seem to download it eventhough I already selected touchscreen and click the download button, nuthin happens
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I think it's not quite true but maybe I'm wrong. Correct me if so...
Opera does exactly the same. Both Opera and Skyfire pre-render websites through their proxies, the difference being that Opera is text-based and Skyfire is image-based.
That's why Opera loads slower and scrolls quickes (loads the whole text part of the website at once), while Skyfire loads quicker and scrolls slower (loads only the visible part as compressed image, google maps style).
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Opera Mobile is not using a proxy, Opera is however launching a new version with a option to use a proxy, search on Opera Turbo.
What do you thing about Skyfire?
I think its really faster with loading an entire page, but if you want to browse fast and have a bad connecting its bad.
On Opera you could stop loadÃng a page if you see what you want to see...this is impossible on skyfire...this really sucks...
Altoutgh scrolling on large pages them to be much smoother on Opera...
Mhm what do you think?
Ill keep testing them
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I like them both! I love the SkyFire default page, that integrates my gmail, facebook, twitter and RSS feeds in one timeline. I also appreciate that flash works properly.
One thing I struggle with is that, as SkyFire renders the page for a desktop PC then pumps it to the phone, often the text columns are too wide to view, even when zoomed out fully. For pages like these, Opera is best.
I think that most advanced users will want to install both browsers. On my PC, I have chrome and firefox, depending on what I'm doing. Same thing for my phone I guess.
Non-advanced users? Well, what are you doing on XDA-Devs?
I really like both.
Skyfire love the home page with Gmail and other feeds. Also flash works. However I wish they'de sort out the scrolling, and zooming.
If it scrolled smother / faster and zoomed better it'd be my browser of choice.
As a result I mainly use Opera, but do use both. I'm certainly keen to keep an eye on updates from both.
To be honest, one needs all three browsers: IE, Opera and Skyfire.
Here's my break down:
- Opera is first choice for regular browsing. Loads fast and renders pages in the most intuitive way for mobile device. Most eye candy on web pages is also well rendered (except for video)
- Skyfire. I don't like the interface and I one is constantly scouring the page to find what one is looking for.
However, it is the BEST browser to browse feature rich pages and pages with video such as Youtube.
- IE. So what do I use IE for?? 1) Sometimes when in hotels with a complementary WiFi connection, you have to log in and the provider somehow only recognises the IE browser. 2) My Favorites are linked to IE. e.g when getting in my car the first thing I do is check for speed traps. I have linked a hardware button to a list of my favorites. Being in the car (and probably already driving.......) I don't want to fiddle around with the screen, zooming in etc. In IE you can fix the zoom level and therefore get an instant overview of the info that matters without major distraction.
Hope this helps people.
Y i agree with you, one more thing to add with IE, only one that support certificates. So using my online BANK service for example so i can jut transfer money anywhere directly from my mobile phone
I just wish the three browsers could combine into a super browser... I love the feeds on the homepage of Skyfire, however navigating through menus is slooooow whereas on Opera once you touch it, it loads the menu (for bookmarks, history, settings, etc.). Also the flash working on Skyfire is a huge plus, but scrolling and zooming is terrible. Opera Mobile 10 Beta has the best scrolling/zooming I've experienced. Opera Mobile 9 isn't as smooth but better than Skyfire. The advantages of IE of couse as others have stated, compatibility reasons... I normally use Opera, but sometimes I switch over to Skyfire, but end up being annoyed at how slow menus work, and go back to Opera. If I had to stick with one I'd say Opera 10 Beta has been the best for me. Even allowed me to use the facebook chat feature within the browser which I can never get to run smooth in Skyfire.
I quite like Skyfire, although you have to wait until the whole page has been rendered & then sent to you. So it's a bit slow in that respect. But it always renders a page as you'd see on your PC - Opera does not always do that, to my annoyance.
What I CANNOT understand is why Skyfire takes so long to open up the favourites page (it's on the phone, right? - or is it??)
I do most of my browsing on Opera (9.7), but occasionally use Iris...
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Opera mobile 10.1 beta works like a charm on my Galaxy S Doc Froyo XWJPO v7.6.2. It even downloads flash-videos (e.g. tagesschau.de) and opens them with the internal video player. Only live stream is not working.
Thanks a lot. Is Opera going to publish this version or will Opera Mobile 10 for Android only be pre-installed on selected devices? (I read something like that on areamobile.de --> uu.uu.uu.areamobile.de/news/13631-opera-mobile-10-jetzt-auch-fuer-android)
Isn't the final version going to be released today?
Works amazingly fast and smooth on my galaxy s. I love it! It doesn't play all our even most flash content so it can't yet replace the stock browser, but once plugin support is there, I'll only use this one for sure!
Will the mobile version compress data like mini did?
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Will the mobile version compress data like mini did?
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I has an option to use compression or not.
What I like the most is reflow on pinch to zoom same way as on my nexus modded aosp stock used to be. Very familiar as symbian user as well.
No flash yet. Hope it comes.
Available on market now!!!
Also for those not familiar with the opera you can change opera user agent by opera:config menu (many other settings as well like cache, ram management etc.). User agent 2 will give you desktop and will auto launch youtube app so it's still better quality than what you get by default on mobile site as a consultation for not having full flash.
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What I like the most is reflow on pinch to zoom same way as on my nexus modded aosp stock used to be. Very familiar as symbian user as well.
No flash yet. Hope it comes.
Available on market now!!!
Also for those not familiar with the opera you can change opera user agent by opera: config menu (many other settings as well like cache, ram management etc.). User agent 2 will give you desktop and will auto launch youtube app so it's still better quality than what you get by default on mobile site as a consultation for not having full flash.
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How do you get to the advanced settings? I cant seem to find it on this beta release
Gave it a quick try. Very good but still not perfect.
When zooming in the images and text are blurry for a second and it only updates after you stop zooming, unlike the stack browsers where it's instant.
It is very smooth when scrolling though.
Also in landscape mode, I can't zoom out fully. This is weird, why do they do this? It's not as bad as Opera Mini was in landscape but it still prevents this from being as nice to use as Dolphin HD. I want full control of zoom all the time, not just in portrait mode.
Also can't import bookmarks from the stock browser. Hope they add this ability.
Needs an exit button for when you don't want to leave it in the background, like Dolphin HD. Sometimes you want to close it so it doesn't return to it's previous state and rather starts 'fresh'.
Will keep it to see future updates and maybe if I want to preserve bandwidth when using mobile data. But Dolphin HD will stay as my default for now.
I have a problem on JPA... Internet browser won't save as default, no matter how many times I set it >_<
Great news.
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Gave it a quick try. Very good but still not perfect.
When zooming in the images and text are blurry for a second and it only updates after you stop zooming, unlike the stack browsers where it's instant.
It is very smooth when scrolling though.
Also in landscape mode, I can't zoom out fully. This is weird, why do they do this? It's not as bad as Opera Mini was in landscape but it still prevents this from being as nice to use as Dolphin HD. I want full control of zoom all the time, not just in portrait mode.
Also can't import bookmarks from the stock browser. Hope they add this ability.
Needs an exit button for when you don't want to leave it in the background, like Dolphin HD. Sometimes you want to close it so it doesn't return to it's previous state and rather starts 'fresh'.
Will keep it to see future updates and maybe if I want to preserve bandwidth when using mobile data. But Dolphin HD will stay as my default for now.
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I can zoom in and out completely in landscape and in portrait
Imports bookmarks and speed dial from desktop version. And unlike chrome to phone it actually works.
Agree with you for the rest except this is my browser of choice now. Waiting on beta 2
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I can zoom in and out completely in landscape and in portrait
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Depends on the site.
As a test go to myadsl.co.za.
In Dolphin HD (and I assume default browser too) when I hold the phone in landscape I can see the whole width of the site.
But on Opera I cannot, it refuses to zoom out that far.
It also seems to take longer to load the page (using Wi-fi), regardless of the Opera Turbo setting. This might just be someone else in the house using the connection at the same time as me though.
I'll give it a go later and maybe post back my findings. Opera Mobile on Symbian and Windows mobile were very good and i'd tried Opera Mini on some dumbphones as well and it worked well. I hadn't tried Opera Mini for Android as I didn't like the idea of only being restricted to using Opera's proxies (I assume that was the only option).
Opera Mobile 10.1 Beta for Android direct link from Opera or pick a version yourself over here.
No flash integration.... sigh.
Idan73 said:
What I like the most is reflow on pinch to zoom same way as on my nexus modded aosp stock used to be. Very familiar as symbian user as well.
No flash yet. Hope it comes.
Available on market now!!!
Also for those not familiar with the opera you can change opera user agent by opera:config menu (many other settings as well like cache, ram management etc.). User agent 2 will give you desktop and will auto launch youtube app so it's still better quality than what you get by default on mobile site as a consultation for not having full flash.
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I really was interested in having the youtube app playback youtube videos instead of the stock player. i changed the user agent to 2 as you describe above and it didnt work. i tried clearing cache, cookies, etc and restarting my phone. i have a htc droid eris running 2.1. can you provide more details on how you were able to get the youtube app to launch automatically from opera mobile?
thanks in advance.
Sorry seems web ignores uset agent string right now but if you go to bottom of youtube page and select full site next time you launch opera it will remember it and launch app respectively.
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Thanks for trying, but it didnt work for me. it must have somethign to do with the url on youtube. It tried to launch the youtube player as you indicated but i got an error that it couldnt connect to the server.
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I really was interested in having the youtube app playback youtube videos instead of the stock player. i changed the user agent to 2 as you describe above and it didnt work. i tried clearing cache, cookies, etc and restarting my phone. i have a htc droid eris running 2.1. can you provide more details on how you were able to get the youtube app to launch automatically from opera mobile?
thanks in advance.
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Set it to whichever string you want from "User Prefs" -> "Custom User Agent"
Opera Mobile is the first browser to actually challenge the stock one for mobile browsing supremacy.
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Set it to whichever string you want from "User Prefs" -> "Custom User Agent"
Opera Mobile is the first browser to actually challenge the stock one for mobile browsing supremacy.
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I tired string 2 as discussed above but it didnt work. i am a bit of a noob, so can you go through the exact settings when i do about:config? is there an index of what user agents the numbers correspond to? for example, when i use skyfire, the videos launch just fine in the youtube app. however, i agree with you abotu opera mobile and this is the only thing i need to be all set.
thanks in advance
1: i noticed that chrome "cuts" and overlap part of some web pages...for ex google upper menu appears over the first search result, making it impossible to click.
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1,1: sometimes it stucks and has a strange behavour with s pen (i click somewhere but it takes as click in another place in the page. it s evidente when small chars and many links )
it doesnt happen in any other app or menu.
2 stock browser doesn t recognize "other favourites" folder or the equivalent for italian "altri preferiti".
i can save only in the main folder and subfolders and not there
same for you?
1. Same here
2. I don't know, I mainly use Firefox beta now
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firefox has any kind of sync with google favourites? can be edited?
for me it's a major feature.
I started getting this with Chrome when we got the first "performance improvement" update. I work around it by zooming in and scrolling. Not ideal by any means.
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I dont know but I think the chrome has it's issues?
Noticed the same issue with Chrome, took me a while to really notice what was going on.
I had problems with Chrome as well. I like it but not enough to put up with a chopped off screen and major offset for the touch screen. I went with Opera and it works like it should so far.
Yip, this happens to me as well and it sucks.
Since early 2017 my E980 on stock 4.4.2 has been struggling on text-heavy pages, in every browser. Zooming and then clicking is very laggy; clicks often show up delayed or misplaced due to rendering lag. Example page on Reddit (log in so things are clickable).
Is this normal?
Edit: disregard, this was due to AutoInput.
Depending on the browser, I'm using Firefox Focus on mine nd everything works okay... Consider that this is a 6y old CPU and modern web pages are full of different scripts, stylesheets and stuff... simply don't expect much from it.
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Depending on the browser, I'm using Firefox Focus on mine nd everything works okay... Consider that this is a 6y old CPU and modern web pages are full of different scripts, stylesheets and stuff... simply don't expect much from it.
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Define okay, though. The pages I'm talking about have tens of thousands of characters. This is causing a zoom and UI delay where you zoom in, tap something, and the tap is registered in the wrong spot because the tap zones haven't updated. Try it on the example page. Scroll around, zoom in, and immediately try to tap a grey link (no account needed).
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Define okay, though. The pages I'm talking about have tens of thousands of characters. This is causing a zoom and UI delay where you zoom in, tap something, and the tap is registered in the wrong spot because the tap zones haven't updated. Try it on the example page. Scroll around, zoom in, and immediately try to tap a grey link (no account needed).
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By okay I mean I can spend 30-60 minutes on reddit w/out any issues or slowdowns It really depends a lot on the browser, Chrome is lagging even on my newer device sometimes, while Firefox likes to freeze for no apparent reason. I have only Firefox Focus on that phone and it's as fast as you can expect from that device.
I finally found the cause: AutoInput (Tasker plugin). Disabled it and restarted Chrome.