Motorola has confirmed that RAZR will be launched with an unlock-able bootloader..does that mean that it would be easier to port ICS on defy too??or it has no benefit for us, the defy owners??
sadly no... no implication on our development unless our boot loader is unlocked. that means no custom kernel for us.
Just wanted to add that the GSM version, outside the US, will have an unlockable bootloader.
The CDMA/LTE version on Verizon will be locked.
I thought its just one version...capable of GSM+HSDPA+LTE or CDMA
Can you paste the source? Thanks
I NEED TO KNOW~~~
Not even a meaning.
You know why, because DefY is a old phone, like Milestone.
(I'm talking about the DefY non plus. plus maybe get a chance unlock, since it's new)
so if defy+ gets an unlocked bootloader, they can make it work on defy as well, right?? i am not very knowledgeable when it comes to bootloaders and custom kernels...also, does having a locked bootloader affect the chances of running CM9 (whenever it is released) on defy??
I was hoping a reverse would be true since our defy is old and hence can be unlocked wirhout much pressure from the operators.
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..also, does having a locked bootloader affect the chances of running CM9 (whenever it is released) on defy??
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Some kernel specific features may not work but CM9 most certainly will be supported.
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Someone is working on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169557
MaxLe said:
Someone is working on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169557
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sounds like another dead end
abhifx said:
sounds like another dead end
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Yeah, because no one is working with him
Also, he don't own a Defy.
MaxLe said:
Yeah, because no one is working with him
Also, he don't own a Defy.
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That is not entirely correct.
It's just that Project Cheesecake (search for bootloader related stuff on Moto dev serveres) didn't bring up something useful.
All other attempts to attack the bootloader have been unsuccessful so far.
So samcripp has the support he needs if he asks for it, but AFAIK there are simply no new leads to go after.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
cloogshizer said:
That is not entirely correct.
It's just that Project Cheesecake (search for bootloader related stuff on Moto dev serveres) didn't bring up something useful.
All other attempts to attack the bootloader have been unsuccessful so far.
So samcripp has the support he needs if he asks for it, but AFAIK there are simply no new leads to go after.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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yup.. that sums it up. our only hope is unlocked bootloader by motorola themselves/itself. maybe google can
Related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYAouuoHDJ4 nothing else to say
gigsaw said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYAouuoHDJ4 nothing else to say
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Kitkat rolled out for Optimus G in South Korea !
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/05/16/lg-optimus-g-kitkat-update-hitting-south-korea-we-speak/
isnt that official files ?
Liindberg said:
Kitkat rolled out for Optimus G in South Korea !
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/05/16/lg-optimus-g-kitkat-update-hitting-south-korea-we-speak/
isnt that official files ?
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Untill we have a .kdz file in our hands we can't say anything for sure. Most probably (and I hope) the firmware shown in the video is only a beta because too many features are missed :crying: we saw how LG is used to manage the updates with the G2, so first of all rolled out a "beta" version in some asian countries, without some features (ART for example)..Then, some weeks later rolled out the final version of the firmware. Anyway we are very close :fingers-crossed:
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Untill we have a .kdz file in our hands we can't say anything for sure. Most probably (and I hope) the firmware shown in the video is only a beta because too many features are missed :crying: we saw how LG is used to manage the updates with the G2, so first of all rolled out a "beta" version in some asian countries, without some features (ART for example)..Then, some weeks later rolled out the final version of the firmware. Anyway we are very close :fingers-crossed:
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V29 is beta version, and has ART.
V28 has Knock On, But has been removed, because some reason conflict hardware/
Sorry for my bad english.
I cannot share this firmware. For tester only.
I hope V30b is still in beta.
hoangnova said:
V29 is beta version, and has ART.
V28 has Knock On, But has been removed, because some reason conflict hardware/
Sorry for my bad english.
I cannot share this firmware. For tester only.
I hope V30b is still in beta.
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Thank's very much for the useful details don't worry if you can't share the rom, personally I am not obsessed with having always the latest beta..I suppose that when it's done, LG will start the roll out, and then, here on xda, works will start Only if it's not a problem and if it's possible for you, would be appreciated if you can keep the community informed on what it's added and what it's removed between the various betas, so we can passionately follow LG's progress..if you want to create a discussion, for example, the community would be happy.
Anyway..I think that ART is foundamental for the future, so it's a great news that it's here! :victory:
knock on is a pity, so even knock code would not be there..but it's not as "foundamental" as ART for example, because I think that some talented developer would integrate at least knock on in the kernel (@ak for example, I was thinking to you LOL). The "major" problem would be the knock off, because I suppose that, if the phone doesn't have the knock on, the launcher wouldn't support the gesture to double tap to sleep.
Now it remains to see the other features that LG usually bakes in the roms, as slide aside, Guest mode (it would be REALLY REALLY REALLY useful, at least for me)..hope in good things to come :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Thank's very much for the useful details don't worry if you can't share the rom, personally I am not obsessed with having always the latest beta..I suppose that when it's done, LG will start the roll out, and then, here on xda, works will start Only if it's not a problem and if it's possible for you, would be appreciated if you can keep the community informed on what it's added and what it's removed between the various betas, so we can passionately follow LG's progress..if you want to create a discussion, for example, the community would be happy.
Anyway..I think that ART is foundamental for the future, so it's a great news that it's here! :victory:
knock on is a pity, so even knock code would not be there..but it's not as "foundamental" as ART for example, because I think that some talented developer would integrate at least knock on in the kernel (@ak for example, I was thinking to you LOL). The "major" problem would be the knock off, because I suppose that, if the phone doesn't have the knock on, the launcher wouldn't support the gesture to double tap to sleep.
Now it remains to see the other features that LG usually bakes in the roms, as slide aside, Guest mode (it would be REALLY REALLY REALLY useful, at least for me)..hope in good things to come :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Slide aside, guest mode, plug and pop,... Very easy to mod (or port).
I have a problem, can not use open bootloader (nexus bootloader) to load kitkat kernel.
hoangnova said:
V29 is beta version, and has ART.
V28 has Knock On, But has been removed, because some reason conflict hardware/
Sorry for my bad english.
I cannot share this firmware. For tester only.
I hope V30b is still in beta.
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Then in next version we'll have less features lol
You look too responsible about the ROM. We should wait for a more generous tester to see a leak at last.
Can you help me. How to load kitkat kernel from open bootloader ? Or help me patch with loki, i need recovery for kitkat rom
Anyone ?
Thanks
hoangnova said:
Can you help me. How to load kitkat kernel from open bootloader ? Or help me patch with loki, i need recovery for kitkat rom
Anyone ?
Thanks
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The problem is that you are the only one who has the official kitkat on OG here. Share it, then guys will find a way and strive to help you
hoangnova said:
Can you help me. How to load kitkat kernel from open bootloader ? Or help me patch with loki, i need recovery for kitkat rom
Anyone ?
Thanks
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Could you be more specific? Because I can't fully understand the problem I mean.. (correct me if I am wrong):
-We start from an optimus g, with lg bootloader (for the noobs that read, it can be unlocked with freegee)
-if you put the nexus 4 bootloader ( I suppose following something similar to this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784 changing the bootloader partition) I think that the phone will load properly only kernels meant for the nexus 4 (and not even all the kernels for nexus 4, according to the OP of the guide), but I'm not sure because I've never changed the bootloader..Supposing that correctly manages even the optimus g kernels (and it's possible), I suppose that the problem now is the recovery, because nobody created a recovery working with kitkat roms from optimus G. For anybody, that doesn't have almost anything for now to work on..it's almost impossible to create it, IMHO..I think we have only to wait for LG's relases, sorry
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Could you be more specific? Because I can't fully understand the problem I mean.. (correct me if I am wrong):
-We start from an optimus g, with lg bootloader (for the noobs that read, it can be unlocked with freegee)
-if you put the nexus 4 bootloader ( I suppose following something similar to this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784 changing the bootloader partition) I think that the phone will load properly only kernels meant for the nexus 4 (and not even all the kernels for nexus 4, according to the OP of the guide), but I'm not sure because I've never changed the bootloader..Supposing that correctly manages even the optimus g kernels (and it's possible), I suppose that the problem now is the recovery, because nobody created a recovery working with kitkat roms from optimus G. For anybody, that doesn't have almost anything for now to work on..it's almost impossible to create it, IMHO..I think we have only to wait for LG's relases, sorry
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Well maybe he could use the classic method for unlocking the bootloader instead of mako?
furkandeger said:
Well maybe he could use the classic method for unlocking the bootloader instead of mako?
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I use mako unlock method
hoangnova said:
I use mako unlock method
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Is that necessary? Because I don't think anyone will be able to help you in this case. But maybe you could try classic method and see If it works. It might since in classic method it is still Optimus G bootloader.
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hoangnova said:
I use mako unlock method
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PM @Shelnutt2 ....he'll help you in unlocking bootloader...He does some modification in boot.img file..
He is the dev of freegee app
furkandeger said:
Is that necessary? Because I don't think anyone will be able to help you in this case. But maybe you could try classic method and see If it works. It might since in classic method it is still Optimus G bootloader.
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I think it's necessary because with a new .kdz rom and new android version, usually even the bootloader is replaced by LG with a new version..so the old method at 99% won't work. Of course is worth a try..but I think that loading trough nexus 4 bootloader is the only option to try..even because probably the jelly bean bootloader wouldn't be compatible with kitkat roms..
We only have to wait for a kdz, nothing else..only few weeks and here we go, hoping that someone would be able to unlock (as fast as possible) the kitkat bootloader..
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Is that necessary? Because I don't think anyone will be able to help you in this case. But maybe you could try classic method and see If it works. It might since in classic method it is still Optimus G bootloader.
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Thanks you very much. it work like a charm !
I use jb bootloader & recovery + system, baseband, kernel kitkat.
I share kitkat partition with one person, and he will port to E975.
Hi guys, I just got my hands on a Xperia ZL... it's quite neat! But I wish I could install CM or a custom rom on it. Ok, I tried to check the bootloader and it states:
Rooting status:
Bootloader unlock allowed: no
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Is it really locked?? I wanted to unlock it to change to a diferent phone career (which now is not really a problem), but now it seems I won't be able to install a custom rom can it be done? Do I need to specify any other characteristic in here?
Aoi v1 said:
Hi guys, I just got my hands on a Xperia ZL... it's quite neat! But I wish I could install CM or a custom rom on it. Ok, I tried to check the bootloader and it states:
Is it really locked?? I wanted to unlock it to change to a diferent phone career (which now is not really a problem), but now it seems I won't be able to install a custom rom can it be done? Do I need to specify any other characteristic in here?
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Like 3 year olds say... " no means NO!" lol
Unfortunately you are S.O.L for unlocking the BL
Damn, I haven't done anything to this device! I don't understand why it is locked like that Some guy wants to charge me for doing it (I bet he will try to get one of those unlock codes from unlocking sites), but then I think it will be impossible. Thanks for the help!
Aoi v1 said:
Damn, I haven't done anything to this device! I don't understand why it is locked like that Some guy wants to charge me for doing it (I bet he will try to get one of those unlock codes from unlocking sites), but then I think it will be impossible. Thanks for the help!
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Ya it's not.possible to unlock it. DO NOT give anyone money to do it.
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Thanks for your help, you saved me $30 US
Aoi v1 said:
Thanks for your help, you saved me $30 US
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No problem!
One good thing is that you can flash stock based Rom's, and we have one of the best out there in Niaboc's ExistenZ Rom.
Flash that Rom, and used the xposed modules, and you can manipulate it to your liking just as much as aosp or CM roms.
Especially xposed modules like "HK Themer" let you install CM themes to stock roms!
Give it a shot! ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385313
How come it's taking awhile for devs to get development going? No AOSP Rom whatsoever unlike the g2.....
erapmicks said:
How come it's taking awhile for devs to get development going? No AOSP Rom whatsoever unlike the g2.....
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With locked bootloader and no 100% working custom recovery is pretty hard, don't you think
erapmicks said:
How come it's taking awhile for devs to get development going? No AOSP Rom whatsoever unlike the g2.....
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Bootloader isn't unlocked for most variants.
Sprint doesn't even have root yet
Once LG unlocks the bootloaders for all variants we'll be good to go.
The T-Mo shipped unlocked for some reason so that one has a few ROMs and a working TWRP, that's a start.
SomeGuyDude said:
Once LG unlocks the bootloaders for all variants we'll be good to go.
The T-Mo shipped unlocked for some reason so that one has a few ROMs and a working TWRP, that's a start.
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And a custom kernel lol
SomeGuyDude said:
Once LG unlocks the bootloaders for all variants we'll be good to go.
The T-Mo shipped unlocked for some reason so that one has a few ROMs and a working TWRP, that's a start.
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They aren't going to unlock it for all variants. There will be many variants where the carrier will not allow it, just like HTCDev does. You're dreaming if you expect VZW/AT&T variants will be unlockable via LG.
These type of threads just breed conflict, since you believe there is lack in development...why don’t you take up development and provide to the Community vice creating threads like this...
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You might learn something and at the same time provide to the XDA Community.
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I saw some time ago we have some donation to unlock bootloader.. Why any developer disnt try to unlock the bootloader its unofficial way like g3 does.
I'm jusy a flashaholic i cant luve without roms man and now its like 5 months away from custom roms and stuck with this ugly stock with rooted ? and i would never ever buy a lg one again id rather go to nexus devices it self have more advantages than this lieces of ****
Im owner of F***** H815P
Noe if u wanna ban me please ??
me too
HIshan Pavidu said:
I saw some time ago we have some donation to unlock bootloader.. Why any developer disnt try to unlock the bootloader its unofficial way like g3 does.
I'm jusy a flashaholic i cant luve without roms man and now its like 5 months away from custom roms and stuck with this ugly stock with rooted ? and i would never ever buy a lg one again id rather go to nexus devices it self have more advantages than this lieces of ****
Im owner of F***** H815P
Noe if u wanna ban me please ??
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I've got to agree - I bought mine from Value Basket, advertised as an EU version but the IMIE is for a Singapore carrier and because of that I can't unlock the bootloader, hence I'm stuck with a fantastic phone with good, but not brilliant firmware and no way to flash my favourite CFW's.
monkeydogger said:
I've got to agree - I bought mine from Value Basket, advertised as an EU version but the IMIE is for a Singapore carrier and because of that I can't unlock the bootloader, hence I'm stuck with a fantastic phone with good, but not brilliant firmware and no way to flash my favourite CFW's.
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Got the g4 because every one was raving about it now I got it and found that the boot loader can't be unlocked I've tryed to sell it on but no one wants it because So many people want Samsung stuff now so now stuck with a $500 lemon........
mvalcar said:
me too
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Yes man never every recommended to someone whos i know as flashaholics
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monkeydogger said:
I've got to agree - I bought mine from Value Basket, advertised as an EU version but the IMIE is for a Singapore carrier and because of that I can't unlock the bootloader, hence I'm stuck with a fantastic phone with good, but not brilliant firmware and no way to flash my favourite CFW's.
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Yes man im a flashaholic
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stinka318 said:
Go the g4 because every one was raving about it now I got it and found that the boot loader can't be unlocked I've tryed to sell it on but no one wants it because So many people want Samsung stuff now so now stuck with a $500 lemon........
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Same here if i can sell it now i would go to 6p or wait till next nexus
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HIshan Pavidu said:
I saw some time ago we have some donation to unlock bootloader.. Why any developer disnt try to unlock the bootloader its unofficial way like g3 does.
I'm jusy a flashaholic i cant luve without roms man and now its like 5 months away from custom roms and stuck with this ugly stock with rooted and i would never ever buy a lg one again id rather go to nexus devices it self have more advantages than this lieces of ****
Im owner of F***** H815P
Noe if u wanna ban me please ??
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Easy there! That's not how things work around here. Also, it's not that developers wouldn't try. People worked on it and may still be working on a solution. Maybe, next time you buy a new phone, make sure you don't spend hundreds of dollars on a device you can't unlock or where it's uncertain whether it'll be unlockable or not. After all, you're a "flashaholic".
Shameful post(op)
Well thank to you sir for contributing and not asking for anything.
HIshan Pavidu said:
I saw some time ago we have some donation to unlock bootloader.. Why any developer disnt try to unlock the bootloader its unofficial way like g3 does.
I'm jusy a flashaholic i cant luve without roms man and now its like 5 months away from custom roms and stuck with this ugly stock with rooted ? and i would never ever buy a lg one again id rather go to nexus devices it self have more advantages than this lieces of ****
Im owner of F***** H815P
Noe if u wanna ban me please ??
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I feel your frustration, though (misguided), you need to read a bit about unlocking the bootloader for many of the G4 models.
You are not the only one that feels as you do. You certainly do not need to be rude about your frustration, furthermore blaming people on XDA is wrong. XDA users had nothing to do with locking the bootloader.
BTW you are correct there is a donation thread somewhere.Why not learn how to develop and be the one that could do what no other could:good:
There are enough rant threads already out there, no need to keep this afloat.
PS thanks for being a member of XDA and I look forward to your development
I tired to find way to unlock bootloader for H815P
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Easy there! That's not how things work around here. Also, it's not that developers wouldn't try. People worked on it and may still be working on a solution. Maybe, next time you buy a new phone, make sure you don't spend hundreds of dollars on a device you can't unlock or where it's uncertain whether it'll be unlockable or not. After all, you're a "flashaholic".
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Well if we all had a power to see in to the future.
I got my lg g4 h815t because there was a chance of the boot loader to be unlocked but now it is apparent it is not going to be....thank for draging me up this path by saying It may still happen......
Do we know if anyone is actually working on it?
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Ok I'm looking at trying to get a lg g4 h815 with a cracked screen so I can swap out mother board's to make my h815t to just a h815.
stinka318 said:
Well if we all had a power to see in to the future.
I got my lg g4 h815t because there was a chance of the boot loader to be unlocked but now it is apparent it is not going to be....thank for draging me up this path by saying It may still happen......
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No need to see into the future. You just need to think harder. LG is known for locking down devices. Why bother with the risk of ending up with a locked down device? Besides, I'm not dragging you anywhere. You just like the feeling of being the victim. Get a grip already!
nitrous² said:
No need to see into the future. You just need to think harder. LG is known for locking down devices. Why bother with the risk of ending up with a locked down device? Besides, I'm not dragging you anywhere. You just like the feeling of being the victim. Get a grip already!
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Well see I know that lg lock some device's I have had a few lg device's g3,g4,gflex2 and now just made a MISSILE out of the g4 because sick of being told that there may be a unlocking available for the g4. I all so sick of people saying that the only root for g4 is root injection it would not work for me so now only got my gflex 2. So very soon I will look at the g4 again now knowing what I need to look for.
The way I see it with out boot loader unlocking there is no root for the g4........ok ranting over good night
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Well see I know that lg lock some device's I have had a few lg device's g3,g4,gflex2 and now just made a MISSILE out of the g4 because sick of being told that there may be a unlocking available for the g4. I all so sick of people saying that the only root for g4 is root injection it would not work for me so now only got my gflex 2. So very soon I will look at the g4 again now knowing what I need to look for.
The way I see it with out boot loader unlocking there is no root for the g4........ok ranting over good night
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Well the root works really well, though you have to be using L. Even xposed works with flash fire, so really its not a big deal. If they at least root M I will be even happier.
Of course unlocked bootloader would be ideal but I am happy with root.
milan187 said:
Well the root works really well, though you have to be using L. Even xposed works with flash fire, so really its not a big deal. If they at least root M I will be even happier.
Of course unlocked bootloader would be ideal but I am happy with root.
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Its bcz u dont know about custom roms if google release every android devices their own pure android os i dont need bootloader unlocked
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HIshan Pavidu said:
Its bcz u dont know about custom roms if google release every android devices their own pure android os i dont need bootloader unlocked
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Why do you assume I don't know about custom roms? I do know a lot and tried many of them on different devices. Some are great some are buggy.
Truth is LG rom is very stable and with root, exposed, launcher I can get it very close to pure android experience. So root is still very important.
Don't get me wrong, I still want an unlcoked bootloader.
Unlocked bootloader will extend the life of the device.
milan187 said:
Why do you assume I don't know about custom roms? I do know a lot and tried many of them on different devices. Some are great some are buggy.
Truth is LG rom is very stable and with root, exposed, launcher I can get it very close to pure android experience. So root is still very important.
Don't get me wrong, I still want an unlcoked bootloader.
Unlocked bootloader will extend the life of the device.
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?? ok so u trying to compare lg ui and google ui ? im sure u used buggy roms alot
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Hi all beauty?
Because no attention to lg g4 dual sim?
Even if they are roms based on the stock would be very good, I realize that the H818P has nothing just a rom that was only updated in October and have nothing, pay so dearly for a good device and has nothing or a little attention developers forum we also need a bit of attention to our device and the Brazilians are suffering from it.
Please help us.
I'm grateful.
My device looks like a Samsung, receives nothing '-':fingers-crossed:
This is the single rom we have: /
https://plus.google.com/+gerisnaldosantosdasilva/posts/csFFs2XDwfy
missing bootloader unlock,that's the reason
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nrpetonr said:
missing bootloader unlock,that's the reason
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Even with locked bootloader, the ROM could be based on the stock of the appliance as I mentioned in the first with improvements.
Not this happens, or root for Android M in H818P have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/gerisromg4-h818p-t3216936
As I said we have only one as I show in the address above.
hpbrasil said:
Even with locked bootloader, the ROM could be based on the stock of the appliance as I mentioned in the first with improvements.
Not this happens, or root for Android M in H818P have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/gerisromg4-h818p-t3216936
As I said we have only one as I show in the address above.
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yes,u r right. still such roms are really limited, that's why there is no real interest
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No one wants to help, it gets complicated.
Not roms or anything.
None?
We cant do anything without a bootloader unlock. People are working on it. Theres a petition with over 3000 signatures on it. I suggest you sign it too then we wait for a word back from lg. https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...pt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition