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:?: I need a cable to connect to the phone antenna ports on the device - the port is smaller than the ones to be found on some mobiles (such as my old trusty Nokia 6310i) and I need to find out what type of connector is needed.
Does anyone know where a cable can be obtained or what type of connector is needed ?
I need a connector also
It took me weeks to find the special connector for my XDAII. Now I'm in the same boat for the Universal (JASJAR). I've been searching the net for a while to no avail, but hopefully I find one soon and let us know. :?
Sorry just too lazy to go through the manual so decided to ask the enlightened friends on this forum. I want to know if the antenna socket provided at the back of the Universal is for GSM signals. The GSM signal in my home room is too weak so I thought that attaching an external antenna would be beneficial to the strength of the GSM signal. But obviously even if it is so attaching an antenna would be possible only once we have found a suitable connector.
Kind Regards
I mounted an antenna outside my house
For the last 2 years (with my XDAII) I've used an antenna I ran through my outside brickwall and mounted outside my house. It helped the phone go from NO reception to a pretty good signal. I still have the cable running to my office/desk and all I need now is the connector. It has to be out there somewhere. I ended up buying my previous connector from http://digikey.com, but it ended up costing $30 ... but it was worth it. I'll do more digging today and see if I can find out more.
Oh and by the way, I was using GSM on my XDAII and the manual for the Universal says the connector (closest to the center or USB) is for GSM/GPRS.
Anyone find out what adapter fits the jasjar? My adapter for the pda2k does not fit.
I'm still looking
I've sent emails to PDAGold, HTC in Taiwan and i-Mate to not avail. I'm going to keep on looking. Obviously someone has to know.
Some progress - I've found out the connector type
The connector on the phone is a Amphenol MHC-H196.
I've posted a pdf with all the specifications of the connector on the circuit board ... http://wiki.xda-developers.com/uploads/MHCH196.pdf
Now it's just a matter of finding the correct adapter.
Well I gave up trying to find one and made my own
After spending many hours looking and getting an official "not available" from digikey.com (who I got my XDAII adapter from) and imate techsupport ... I decided to make my own. I haven't been able to test it with my Jasjar yet, though, since it's still being repaired at Topp Solutions in Miami.
I ended up using 26 gage solid wire (which is .4mm diameter) and a .062 inch (1.6mm) diameter female pin connector. This is smaller than the diameter of the connector on the phone, which is actually 1.82mm. Although, I expect it to expand slightly (permanently) when it's slid over the connector on the phone. Obviously, it's very crude for now. I just want to see if it works then I might make a prettier one. I included some pictures for fun. By the way this cost me about $9 in material (which I can use for other projects) vs. $35 for the last adapter I bought for my XDAII through Digikey.
From down under , land of long white cloud...
We have had the same issue ( product known as Jas jar)
My user name in this forum is Digs also, see our discussion :
REF: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=18&TopicId=7105
Did you see the interesting comments made by WilsonsElectronics. HTC really stuffed up with this one.
Is there any news on this matter.
At the moment I have sent an information pack to www.pasternack.com and I am currently waiting for a response. These people do customised products. See under technical support. I will keep you friends informed.
http://www.pasternack.com/ContactUs/ContactInformation.asp
I am after an adapter to get a signal booster... www.digitalantenna.com
I talked to them about three products. there email follows
Description Part Number List Price
60dB gain repeater system 4KSBR-50U $699.95
40dB gain repeater system 4KMR-30U $559.95
Direct Connect Amplifier DA4000 $299.95
DA4000:
The DA4000 amplifier must be purchased with an antenna and cell adapter cable and is a direct-connect system. The antenna is placed on the roof and connects to the inside amplifier which with the correct adapter would then connect to the cellular device. We have many adapters for different phones and air cards. If we do not have the adapter for your type of phone or air card the other option is a wireless repeater. However the direct-connect amplifier can provide higher performance because you are directly connected to it. Please use the link at the bottom of this email to download our 2006 on-line catalog. On page 28/29 is our Cell Adapter Cables which lists the adapters per make/model of cellular phone or PC card.
Description Part Number List Price
Direct Connect Amp. DA4000 $299.95
9dB cell antenna 288-PW $129.95
Cable 340-50NM $79.95
Adapter Cable pg 28/29 $19.95
4KSBR-50U:
The 4KSBR-50U system comes with an external antenna, 50' cable, amplifier/repeater, power supply and an internal antenna. So the external antenna can be installed on the roof with the cable going to the amplifier/repeater inside the house. The internal antenna is also plugged into the amplifier/repeater and is installed inside the house. There must be 40' separation and a wall/roof/bulkhead structure between inside and outside antennas.
With a good cellular signal outside the house the 4KSBR-50U system can reach as far as 40 feet from the internal antenna. Generally the SBR can penetrate 1 or 2 inside walls only and each wall will reduce the 40 feet coverage. Also keep in mind the weaker the outside signal the closer you will need to be to the inside antenna. The 4KSBR-50U system must have a signal that is at or greater than -90db to be able to amplify/repeat it.
4KMR-30U:
The 4KMR-30U, 40dB gain dual band cellular repeater system, comes with an external antenna, 30' cable, amplifier/repeater, power supply and an internal antenna. So the external antenna can be installed on the roof with the cable going to the amplifier/repeater inside the house. The internal antenna is also plugged into the amplifier/repeater and is installed inside the house. There must be 20' separation and a wall/roof/bulkhead structure between inside and outside antennas.
With a good cellular signal outside the house the 4KMR-30U system can reach as far as approximately 18 feet from the internal antenna but will not penetrate walls. Also keep in mind the weaker the outside signal the closer you will need to be to the inside antenna. The 4KMR-30U system must have a signal that is at or greater than -90db to be able to amplify/repeat it.
Try here for antennae and adaptors
I haven't checked this very far yet but the picture seems to match...
http://www.boatersphone.com/PDAs.asp[/url]
More detail...at : http://www.boatersphone.com/Adapters.asp
Its the Nokia 359914 Multi Manufacture Cell Phone adpater, You stick a velco thing on your phone next to the internal adapter, and slide the nokia adapter into it. This is NOT a direct plug in into the External GSM jack of the HTC Universal device ( ie Jas Jar ). But looks like our only safe option. Not sure how the velcro thing goes on the device, the Jas Jar has a plastic back ( over the battery )???
Works on these networks, the site says : 900MHz/1800MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz networks
..."This is an extremely effective new kind of adapter, it works on a similar rinciple to the clip-on adapter, with the exception that it is tuned to work on more frequencies. We have tested it on all UK frequencies including 3G, and we know it works on the American 1900MHz band as well! This adapter was originally designed to work on Nokias but we have successfully used it on other makes of phones, making this a (hopefully!) truly universal adapter. It will work on 'candy-bar' style phones which have an internal antenna.
This adapter is two-piece, one piece is a velcro pad which has sticky-back plastic on it, and sticks onto the back of the phone over the internal antenna. The second piece is the adapter itself, which has velcro over the inductive plate, so it can be easily removed, and has a lead so it can be connected to an external antenna. '...
Where did you get the Information that it's a velcro adaptor?
reading the Page it says:
Plug-In Adaptor for O2 XDA Exec
More details about plug-in adaptor in general:
This kind adapter is called a plug-in adapter, for the simple reason that what it does is plug straight into the port on the back of the phone, and provides a cable connection to the antenna.
The plug-in adapter is preferred to the clip-on adpter, as it works on any mobile network.
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I wrote them an email i'll keep you informed.
If you can get a plug in one then fine, but further down the page is where I get my info from. I highlighted in bold, just in case you cant see good.(Ha).
I'll bet the Jas Jar gets allocated the valcro one. As my experience is that its very difficult to find a plug one for the Jas Jar /O2 Exec.
Although I learly can read your bold text and being able to find this on on the page i really have no clue where you find the connection between the velco apdator and the O2 XDA Exec since it's marked with plug-in adaptor. Well we will see.
My apologies, yes "Plug-in Adapters", for "XDA, XDA II, XDA IIs, XDA Exec "..
BUT be carefull, the GSM external jack is very weak as per Wilson Electronic comments. Post me any confirmations of the plug in adapter working.
'Universal' adapters that apparently plug in
Their News page has a paragraph that describes a new adapter for various flavours of the Universal (although calling it Wizard to add to the confusion!) and warns against plugging in incompatible adapters. The adapters page lists the HTC devices under 'Plug-In' not 'Clip-on'. So that's why I posted.
I sent an Email after posting here, but it sounds like they are a small outfit so be patient!
Be careful with making adapters for transmitting antennae. For receiving antennae you can get away with almost anything, but for a transmitter a bad match on a connector will create reflections and emissions; it might even damage the transmitter (don't know if that's a problem here). If you don't see a clear increase on the reception bars with a well placed antenna, the adapter may be sending all the power straight back, doubling the voltage at the transmitter. Make sure everything is matched to 50R.
Nick (gave up my amateur radio license long ago since long hours in the loft didn't fit with married life!) :wink:
Reply from 'Boatersphone'
Can you do an adaptor from the obscure Amphenol MHCH196 socket on the HTC Universal Windows PDA phone? (XDA Exec, MDA Pro etc.). Presumably the other end is an FME f connector for the 'standard' phone antennas. Or alternatively the other end is a portable (non-mounted) antenna on 1800/2100MHz.
Many thanks
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Hello,
Yes we have an adapter to connect the HTC Universal to one of our antennae and you are correct about the FME F connection. We don't supply an adapter direct to an antennae, only in a two-part system via an FME connection, to allow for changing of either part.
If you require a portable antenna we have a 3G/Multiband antenna with a magnetic base (on 850/900/1800/1900/2100MHz frequencies) or we have a T-bar window antenna, which is 3G/Triband, although this doesn't produce as good results as the magnetic antenna.
Regards,
Arthur @ BPC
Any news? they don't seem to answer anymore. I wrote him two times. Anybody in contact with him?
Messing about in Boats
They advise to be patient, I bet we've flooded them with enquiries and they quote two days to reply!
Okay, so I using a dash on Kavana 6.1 ver: 4.1.13.41
anyways, I bought a 3 in one adapter off eBay the other day with an htc label (supposedly designed for the dash) I also own a regular mini usb to 3.5mm adapter which also doesn't seem to work....the phone will play the music regularly and not pick up that their is a headphone piece connected being either a 3.5mm or 2.5mm though it does pick up if a charger is connected through the 3in one...Could this be the Kavanna could it be the mini usb port? I've tried different headphones...I actually used to listen to music when I first bought the phone when back when but stopped for quite a while....well hope someone can help me thank you!!
i have the kavana 6.1 rom with a 3 in 1 and also a stand alone 3.5mm converter and both work.
its either one of 2 things. 1. you have a hosed mini usb jack on your excalibur ( this does happen from time to time) 2. you have bad adapters not made for the excalibur. I have never bought stuff like this off of ebay, but thats my preference. I bought both of my adapters from here: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5314
and here:
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5414
i know its more pricey than ebay or other sites, but sometimes you get what you pay for.
This is just what i think, i have seen a ton of adaptors that do 3.5mm conversion and they fit in but they do not work, they are for motorola's and other same type adaptor plug in's, so this 3 in 1 adaptor is most likely not an HTC one, ebay is the worse place to buy an adaptor as u can see its probably not an HTC capible adaptor.
Buy Adaptors only from HTC if u wanna be 100% cause anything else is not 100%
Or in person so you can test.
i have bought from ebay for cheap $1.9 (usb to 3.5mm) and they work fine.
well you got lucky not like our fellow poster, there are a ton out there that are fake ones that wont work, just wanna stay away from those anyway you can.
Amazon is where i get my stuff from. I never had any problems with anything.
Hey I got a question for yew folks:
Does the motorola usb headphones work on the dash? Im an audiophile and cheap sounding headphones (like htc's) drive me nuts. The motorola ones I had for the razr and slivr sounded pretty good but I would like to know for sure if they work before I go and spend my money on a pair.
Thanks for all the replies everyone, first off Pudge what was that you said about the mini usb being bad? (how does that work exactly?)
...PPC I think I'll definitely have to stop by the T-mobile store today see if they carry H.T.C. headphones try those out..
..Phatman I have read somewhere that yes you can use the Motorola on the Dash (but it might of been just the bluetooth ones...possibly..)
well actually its not really about the mini usb port being bad, but more of it being stuck in one mode or another. i have seen people here post that the mini usb always being stuck in the headphone mode or never going into headphone mode no matter what. either way, it doesn't prevent you from charging the phone, just that it prevents you from utilizing the port in all the ways that its capable of performing. Usually i've seen the only fix being replacement of the phone (unless you're really good at replacing internal components of the phone yourself).
timepassman said:
i have bought from ebay for cheap $1.9 (usb to 3.5mm) and they work fine.
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i did to works fine
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i did to works fine
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What's the thread title "I bought a 3.5mm adapter rom Ebay & it works"
All pudge was stating is that you take a chance when buying something off ebay not all 3.5mm jacks are the same many manufacturers of phones make the connection slightly different. "You will see the black bits on the plug they can be moved about" <- Simplified
No need to post i got one and ok
I'm traveling from the US to London and then to Scotland in about a week. I bought my Touch Pro 2 with this trip in mind because it's a world phone and can operate on both CDMA and GSM frequencies. What concerns me now is the voltage difference between the US and UK/Scotland (Here in the US we use 110v/120v. In both UK and Scotland they use 220v/240v). The charger is rated for 100v-240v which means it's okay to use in both places without a converter. I just want someone with some experience to confirm or explain otherwise. From what I understand as long as the charger says "input:100v-240v 50hz/60hz output: 5v I'm okay because it will convert it down to 5v anyway, correct?
Also, I heard from someone (who doesn't own a smartphone) that they've heard horror stories of people's smartphone's memory being scrambled from going overseas. This person said regular phones are fine, ONLY smartphones are in danger. I don't understand what would cause this, so I doubt it, but I'd still like to check it out.
I went to Italy and Spain and as long as I had the right adapter for the plugs, the charger worked fine. Same with my camera charger.
So you didnt have to buy a voltage converter? Just the adapter to change the physical shape of the plugs?
why not contact htc? seems that they may be able to provide the best peace of mind to your questions
So long as you get an adaptor (looks like this one, which costs under one UK pound) for the UK plugs for your US-based charger, it will work just fine with our English and Scottish-flavoured electricity we have over here.
When they say input voltage from 100-2340volts it means just that: in that range the adaptor will work perfectly fine to produce the required 5 volts output to charge your phone.
As to your friends "story", well it's just that: a story. a smartphone is a computer with radio chips that functions as a phone and happens to offer a windows mobile OS platform.
Likewise an ordinary Nokia phone is a computer with radio chips that functions as a phone..... so why would one get it's brain "scrambled" and not the other?
take your non WinMo owners story with a pinch of salt, but DO remember not to get chatted up by 2 nice girls in a bar in case you wake up in the bath missing a kidney! yes! it's true! it happened to a friend of mine... well a friend of a friend, he was in Asia, when he got chatted up...... (insert more urban myths here)
Joe
OP, you will be fine. I've travelled to many different countries with my TP2, including the exact two that you mentioned, and can assure you that you will *not* need a voltage converter, just the plug adapter. Best to pick one up before you go, but if not you will find *plenty* of them for sale at every airport you travel through. Don't worry. Have a good trip!
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So you didnt have to buy a voltage converter? Just the adapter to change the physical shape of the plugs?
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Nope, no converter needed, not for the phone, anyway. It is needed for things like hair dryers or shavers that plug directly into the socket without a transformer brick. I got a cheap set off eBay that has various plug adapters for just about any country in Europe and a converter in a hard case for $20.
The charger already IS a voltage converter, as long as the house voltage is within the rated range of the charger, and you have an adapter to fit the physical shape of the prongs, you are good to go. This goes with chargers for other devices, including laptops.
The story about a smartphone's memory being scrambled by travelling is hogwash. I used my Tilt2/Touch Pro 2 and my Tilt before that in Japan many times, and it works just like its supposed to. Like a previous response said, a smartphone is just a cell phone which happens to also have pocket PC functionality. A foreign country is not going to send some evil cell signal into your smartphone and scramble it. Somebody your friend knows probably just messed up their smartphone by dropping it in a squat toilet and blamed it on "travelleing".
Thousands of people travel to foreign countries all the time with their WM phones, iPhones, Blackberries, etc. If there was really some problem there, it would be well publicized by this point, not just one guy you know telling a scary story.
works like a champ
I've been to Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands with my AT&T Tilt 2 and it has worked like a champ.
The included charger handles 100-240V so all you need is the plug adapter for the specific country that you'll be visiting.
For an extended trip you could get a SIM unlock code from AT&T so that you can use a pre-paid SIM card while traveling.
Have a fun and safe trip!
I took mine to Australia and used it for SatNav where the heat from the sun through the window not only stopped the thing charging properly but made the glue melt and run out of the strip on the back around the PTT/Mute button untill it was partially hanging off.
I also took it to Thailand where the humidity caused all sorts of strange issues including it switching itself on during take off three times until I removed the battery. Also the buttons and keys gave unusual results when pressed.
Then I took it to France and used it as SatNav again. It was hot again and the glue came out again until I was in the airport in Switzerland flying back and the back caught on my bag, rolled up and became un-pocketableee so I pulled the back off. Much better now although ebayers may not agree.
Don't worry about taking your phone with you, all you need is a plug adapter which I guarantee someone or other will try and sell you multiple times during your journeys. Mine (still on stock wwe 6.1) even has all the data settings which it sets on insertion of a sim.
In the UK the cheapest prepaid sims are from the supermarkets, I'd go for Tesco or Asda. Asda is a little cheaper but the have fewer shops for you to top up in.
Hope this helps
I have just taken delivery of my HTC battery charger. It cost £9.09, came from Amazon and I assume it is genuine.
It works perfectly in my Nissan X-trail. However it does not work in my wife's Renault Clio (2003/4 reg).
Is there any form of adaptor I can get or do I just have to go down the route of trying the numerous chargers out there (a significant number of which are not to European safety standard, apparently) until I find one that works.
Or is anyone out there happily charging the Desire in their similar age Clio in which case what are you using? I would prefer to find one such as the HTC where data connection is not enabled hence allowing rapid charging, very important with the sat nav running.
Or do I have to buy a new car?....which seems a tad extreme nevermind how much I like the phone!!
Thanks.
How come it doesn't work? Is it the fitment etc?
You sure the lighter socket works in the car? A lighter socket is a lighter socket after all and the only thing I can think is that is has an odd shaped surround that prevents it from going all the way in. Our peugeot 306 is like that and I can't use my flush fitting usb charger in it.
Phil
Thanks for that.
The lighter works fine. I have been browsing Renault information fora and it seems likely that, unless someone comes up with "this is the one I use and it works", I will have to change the lighter socket, French ones being of a different size to UK ones in a car that age. Bizarre.
That's odd!
They probably did it just to annoy us brits!
Anyone ever use one? If so, what do you think of this?
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_antenna_combo_em_removal.html
Not interest in saving my brain, but in extending my 3G and 4G range.
I'm a little interested as well. For $50, it had better give great reception.
I heard my friend talk about this today. I hope it works.
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I have used them from Wilson Electronics with great results...Don't know about these
Hold the (cell)phone - that one doesn't cover the LTE frequencies. Here's a nice indoor one that covers 700 MHz.
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_all_bands_8db_panel_indoor.html
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I would like to see how they are attached to the Thunderbolt. (It says direct connect). There is no illustration of the antenna connection to the phone.
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I would like to see how they are attached to the Thunderbolt. (It says direct connect). There is no illustration of the antenna connection to the phone.
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I would think that it plus into that jack on the bottom back of the TBolt.
Looks to have a rubber plug in it now.
I thought that was covering a screw
Has anyone tried either of these or any other similar device? I recently moved and now my signal has gone to hell (I'm lucky if I get one bar), so I'm seriously considering one of these.
Any reviews/feedback?
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I thought that was covering a screw
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thats what ive heard.
i also would like to see how this thing connects..
Are we still unaware as to how this connects to the phone? All we've got is our USB port and our headphone jack... unless there's a secret antennae jack that I'm unaware of?
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Are we still unaware as to how this connects to the phone? All we've got is our USB port and our headphone jack... unless there's a secret antennae jack that I'm unaware of?
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I know on the droid and several other phones, there are little Antenna diversity jacks so that you can plug in extended or high-gain antennas (usually underneath the battery covers). I have seen the metal connectors (but not in a standardized form) on the inside of the case that connect to the antenna leads inside the back cover. You could potentially solder some leads from those to a proper antenna connecter that you mount on the back of the phone or inside one of those rubber fitted screw-holes. Then you could plug in and unplug your external antenna. As far as standardized connectors for external antennas, I don't think the T-Bolt has one.
emailed that site. heres what they said:
The is a small plastic cover, about 1/4" in diameter, on the back
of the phone. You may remove, very carefully, with a needle, and
the antenna port will be exposed.
Notice, however, that we recommend using the ExtAntPro™ adapter
with the Thunderbolt, because of the very small antenna port. The
regular adapter, which comes with the antennas, falls off very
easily, although it does still work.
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they seem to think that cover isnt hiding just a screw, even tho htc says its just a screw. i feel that htc rep might be wrong tho. i might just have to tear my cover off to figure it out once and for all.
edit: ok that htc person is stupid. ITS AN ANTENNA PORT FOR SURE. watch this vid:
http://youtu.be/zdPiT82gWKw?hd=1&t=2m48s pause at about 2:52. youll see its clearly an antenna port with contacts in the circuit board running from it.
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emailed that site. heres what they said:
they seem to think that cover isnt hiding just a screw, even tho htc says its just a screw. i feel that htc rep might be wrong tho. i might just have to tear my cover off to figure it out once and for all.
edit: ok that htc person is stupid. ITS AN ANTENNA PORT FOR SURE. watch this vid:
http://youtu.be/zdPiT82gWKw?hd=1&t=2m48s pause at about 2:52. youll see its clearly an antenna port with contacts in the circuit board running from it.
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Hello, I second that. I had these antennas for a couple years. I never found the antenna connection on the last couple phones I had, so I never even cared to pull the rubber plug, but it is indeed the antenna plug, these antennas work great, special during long drives, or for when I visit relatives who live in the woods, with a very weak signal. Thanks!
nope not covering a screw i double checked
I would never hook up an external antenna to a phone again. I did it once with my old Samsung Epix, and while it improved the signal when I disconnected the antenna I lost all service, so my phone was basically useless after connecting it.
What about a signal repeater, my office uses them and they work great! our corp office is outside of town so weak signal. Get to work and go inside you get full bars - kinda weird when you notice it. They are place on windows on every floor look just like the external antenna but only have a power cord coming off it.
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What about a signal repeater, my office uses them and they work great! our corp office is outside of town so weak signal. Get to work and go inside you get full bars - kinda weird when you notice it. They are place on windows on every floor look just like the external antenna but only have a power cord coming off it.
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We have one of these at my work as well. Great signal outside, but not so much in the basement of the building. As soon as we moved into that building, getting one of these installed was a top priority of mine. It made a HUGE difference, although mostly for non-VZW!
external antenna
Search U.FL on wikipedia
That appears to be the connector under the rubber plug on a thunderbolt.
I cant find any that just go straight except ipx connectors at rfconnector.com
Does connecting an external antenna affect the internal one at all?
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Search U.FL on wikipedia
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The TB jack is not a Hirose U.FL. It looks more like a MS-156.