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Hey was wondering if there was a way to connect a mimo usb touch screen monitor to my g2 , it would make and awesome display to use will driving .
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
DLNA
Mog said:
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
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NO but DLNA ???
Mog said:
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
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MIMO Monitors are entirely USB-based, so their doesn't need any kind of video out signals on the connector (standard USB connectors do not have video out either). Unfortunately, the USB controller in the G2 does not have USB host capabilities in the current kernel, so this would have to be developed first. Then drivers for the monitor itself would need to be ported over.
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NO but DLNA ???
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While DLNA would work if you are simply trying to stream media over to a larger display in your car, the standard doesn't support displaying the entire phone's screen as is (i.e., you can't send touch responses back to phone, you won't be able to run apps on it, etc.).
No im not looking to use dlna , the mimo monitor is a usb touchscreen monitor . I'm basically looking to make a car dock for my phone and use that as the display and touchscreen .
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MIMO Monitors are entirely USB-based, so their doesn't need any kind of video out signals on the connector (standard USB connectors do not have video out either). Unfortunately, the USB controller in the G2 does not have USB host capabilities in the current kernel, so this would have to be developed first. Then drivers for the monitor itself would need to be ported over.
While DLNA would work if you are simply trying to stream media over to a larger display in your car, the standard doesn't support displaying the entire phone's screen as is (i.e., you can't send touch responses back to phone, you won't be able to run apps on it, etc.).
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Do you happen to know if it would take alot of knowledge to add USB OTG support to the kernal ? i know some other phone have been modded to allow usb host , like the droid and the nexus one .
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Hey it looks like with some work the display link drivers for linux can be used for android to connect and external usb monitor/touchscreen , Can anyone else look at this and tell me if this is some thing that can be done ?
http://sites.google.com/site/voyageofbeagleboard/Home/displaylink-for-android
I'm an EVO user that is VERY interested in seeing this come to light...I don't want this thread to die!
Here are some linux drivers that should work for the mimo monitor so with usb host enable and maybe some modification to the drivers we could get it to work , just wish i knew enough to do it .
http://touch-base.com/
wow
this would be the greatest hack ever to have a permmounted large screen for phone interaction wothis must come to life yt would change everything, 1 device plugged in wherever you are with U/I and hardware to match your usage neeeds
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Well I've been searching for a while trying to connect the S3 as a laptop using MHL+USB OTG, but seems it is not possible or simply hard enough to consider other options. Several options have been considered:
1- Using BT keyboard/mouse is not always suitable since most of us use 2.4Ghz USB keyboard/mouse and it does not consider connecting HDD or other stuff.
2- I found an application that allows you to use your keyboard/mouse connected to your PC to control the phone, "takecontrol", take a look here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5kcm9pZGNvbnRyb2wudGFrZWNvbnRyb2xsaXRlIl0.
Using this app you could also share an HDD connected to that PC solving one of the previous problem BT has.
But this configuration forces you to have your computer switched on... a bit useless if what you want is to connect the S3 as a PC instead of using an actual one.
3- After this I thought of using a wifi USB HUB, but hey! most of routers have USB ports, so why don't we use them instead of buying a new equipment? Then I realised it should work fine for sharing contents from a USB HDD but for USB wireless mouse/keyboard...
(those of you who have a BT mouse/keyboard but don't know how to connect the USB HDD to get "full" PC experience with the S3/S2/Note..., maybe it's still interesting this option)
So my question is if it is possible to connect a USB wireless mouse/keyboard plugging it to a wifi USB HUB. Maybe with an android app? what do you think guys?
I'm still thinkin about this.
Would be possible to use a wireless USB Hub, via wifi or BT?
WiFi Mouse is very good for you, please visit: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/wifi-mouse-turns-your-android-phone-into-a-mouse
For us Galaxy NOte II users.
1. Here is an app that will automatically download and install the latest version of Flash for Android (works on Jellybean).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30646684&postcount=1
2. Then, using either ESFile or Root Explorer...do into the base of your phones file system and find the
data/data/mobi.geek.TunnyBrowser/shared_prefs
folder. Delete
installed_plug_pref.xml AND mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser_preferences.xml
3. Now, when you go into Dolphin, it will be Flash enabled (always on)
Make sure that you go to the "more" menu in Dolphin and select user Agent "Desktop"
4. You can additionally (once you have configured your browser preferences) go into the properties of the "shared_prefs" folder and uncheck the write option, so that the settings can no be reverted.
Flash is the fastest I have ever seen on any cell phone...hands down.... easily. I guess it took a 1.6Ghz quad core for Flash to work perfectly on a phone.
I manually installed it and using it with Boat Browser. Works flawlessly. Now I got to get bluetooth/mouse for it to browse the web on my TV.
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I manually installed it and using it with Boat Browser. Works flawlessly. Now I got to get bluetooth/mouse for it to browse the web on my TV.
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I just bought a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Mouse-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVN6C0/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00
Keyboard-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HCO4GI/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
Love them both. Even the function keys on the keyboard work.
I have an Amazon prime account do I paid $30 flat for the both of them.
Now I am on a hunt for an MHL adapter for HDMI out AND to get some programmable NFC tags for use in the car or when I get in the house.
I was thinking about this one since it has the touch pad built in. I sign up for Amazon Prime also but will probably cancel before the promo expires.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-OrientE...TF8&colid=2NN334OFYO6V5&coliid=I2ZIHWEV02DFHB
I bought the universal MHL to HDTV from Samsung which comes with an adapter. But the adapter is quite fat and you will need to remove most case in order to use it. My case is a pain in the rear end to remove.
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I was thinking about this one since it has the touch pad built in. I sign up for Amazon Prime also but will probably cancel before the promo expires.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-OrientE...TF8&colid=2NN334OFYO6V5&coliid=I2ZIHWEV02DFHB
I bought the universal MHL to HDTV from Samsung which comes with an adapter. But the adapter is quite fat and you will need to remove most case in order to use it. My case is a pain in the rear end to remove.
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That is a teeny tiny one! Unless you want that on purpose.
You could try this one with a slide out mouse pad:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Wire...TF8&colid=16ZLZHWF45LWG&coliid=I3TJD58PL29F6U
I just saw the picture next to the phone, it is tiny. That Motorola one looks good but it doesn't come with a bluetooth dongle. I can use it with my phone but not my laptop and I am not sure what bluetooth HID is and if they sell separate adapter.
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I just saw the picture next to the phone, it is tiny. That Motorola one looks good but it doesn't come with a bluetooth dongle. I can use it with my phone but not my laptop and I am not sure what bluetooth HID is and if they sell separate adapter.
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So, the point here is that you DONT want any product with a bluetooth dongle. If you don't have bluetooth on your laptop and you want the keyboard to work on your laptop then you have to buy a bluetooth adapter.
I think that you may want to look into this as well. you can control your phone from your PC keyboard and mouse with it.
Easyblue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVlBVFkKxfo
But, in any case...you want to avoid having a dongle bluetooth receiver for your phone because it will occupy the microusb port and then you can't charge or your HDMI out while using your keyboard or mouse.
Am I making sense here?
Here is an adapter for your PC to have bluetooth:
http://www.amazon.com/Aitek-Bluetoo...sr=1-11&keywords=targus+bluetooth+4.0+adapter
Get a Bluetooth 4.0 with LE (Low energy technology). they are like 10 bucks.
Wish there was something for Chrome to be flash enabled
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So, the point here is that you DONT want any product with a bluetooth dongle. If you don't have bluetooth on your laptop and you want the keyboard to work on your laptop then you have to buy a bluetooth adapter.
I think that you may want to look into this as well. you can control your phone from your PC keyboard and mouse with it.
Easyblue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVlBVFkKxfo
But, in any case...you want to avoid having a dongle bluetooth receiver for your phone because it will occupy the microusb port and then you can't charge or your HDMI out while using your keyboard or mouse.
Am I making sense here?
Here is an adapter for your PC to have bluetooth:
http://www.amazon.com/Aitek-Bluetoo...sr=1-11&keywords=targus+bluetooth+4.0+adapter
Get a Bluetooth 4.0 with LE (Low energy technology). they are like 10 bucks.
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No I want the option of connecting to my laptop as well so if it comes with a dongle then it is great. I understand I do not need a dongle since my phone already has bluetooth and with the dongle, I won't be able to output to TV since I need that port for the MHL adapter.
So yes, buy that Motorola, and a separate receiver so I can use it with my laptop also. Thanks for all the links you posted so far.:good:
I accidentally sat on my galaxy note 8 yesterday (damn it) and the screen is now broken... i cannot see anything (part of the screen is dark and other part is "scrambled") ... anyway I now want to convert the device into an android tv device as repair will cost too much...problem is I cannot navigate with the device touchscreen as I can't see nothing....
what do i need to completely convert it into an android tv? software, cables, etc... I bought the mhl hdmi cables from ebay but none worked... recommend me the correct cables to buy plz.. thx
You're in a "catch 22" scenario, you could use an OTG cable and a mouse, to enable Bluetooth and pair to a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but you can't see the screen to make the pair and you can't use the MHL cable and the OTG cable together.
You'll be better off getting a new screen off eBay and replacing it yourself.
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no way to "navigate" using adb something like that and set up a bash script that outputs/tv mirroring with mhl?
Replacing the screen seems quite pricey (I am going to use that money to buy a budget chinese dual boot android/win8 tab instead)
As for using it as a TV...
Seems like the stock video player does pass 1080i 30pfs well, all other players paid or not only passes 720p.
As most all streaming services push 720p as High Def, using 1080i would be very rare, and with today's standards to allow Cable to choke our internet. There is a monopoly going on, and if it were the 70's Comcast and Verizon would be heading to court just like AT&T.
You can get a MHL HDMI adapter, and use it to use a TV to connect. I have a Samsung TV, so Anynet+ will automatically turn on the TV and switch to the input when connected to the tablet.
All you need to do, is make sure the MHL HDMI adapter is connected to the USB power before connecting to the tablet. You can either plug in the MHL adapter before powering on the tablet or plug in once the tablet has been booted up. If plugging in while off, give it a few minutes to display on the TV.
The nice thing is that the adapter will work without need of any settings changes. I use Miracast as it does not need cables and works a wee better. Though many complain about how it functions, i think it is because of modded ROMs and the lack that they do not use Samsung's update to fully optimize the workings of their tablets.
If using Miracast, you will need a MHL adapter to configure the tablet for syncing... once configured you wont need to connect the MHL adapter. Though if any Miracast settings get changed your not going to be able connect and use your tv, since your tablet's display is broken.
I prefer a stock ROM, as it is fully working, and don't having to fix what others break.
thx for the reply but the problem is I cannot use the screen as it's broken... any ideas are welcome
ok guys some progress!
using
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ and http://www.mymobiler.com/
I am able to control my galaxy note 8 from pc now with a usb connection
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ is straightforward but it is very slow and could not get keyboard and mouse to work. I used it to install mymobiler app and grant root access to it... with mymobiler, i can use mouse and keyboard and it is faster but still lags... if anyone knows better/lagless screen mirroring app, let me know.
Now, next step is to connect physical bluetooth mouse and keyboard and hdmi so that i can use it as an android desktop/tv pc
ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
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ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
yeahman45 said:
thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
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Yes it will work on any Monitor with HDMI.
Just TV was on the top of my head when making a quick setup.
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
yeahman45 said:
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
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Depending on Monitor settings, some will auto fit or allow for edge to edge adjustment.
Also if using video player, the Samsung video player does do edge to edge, while MXplayer will not through MHL. I gave up on Per App settings in Xposed, before I could ascertain that MXplayer will do edge to edge with H/W or Software decoder.
One thing with SecondScreen, it may adjust for proper scaling with Monitors, though with my TV the built in PC input scales to have a boarder to compensate for the 5% overscan most all TVs use to keep encoded signals from showing at the edges.
Not all Monitors and TVs are perfect, but I am able to use edge to edge with some adjustment with the display or using a 3rd party app such as secondscreen.
what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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Well the other option is to connect your tablet to your A/V receiver and pass the video to your monitor, or to get a signal splitter that will allow audio output. Depending on the quality and performance they can run as low as $20 and up to $150 so in some ways it is best to get an A/V receiver. If your A/V receiver is limited by inputs BlueJean cable has various HDMI switchers.
I have the link to the free app a few posts above this... just read the pages back till you find it. I am running the paid version so updates may be faster and better than the freebie. I went a head and updated to 1.4.5 just to see how much of a problem it is as for workarounds with Touchwiz. I still prefer 1.4.4 as it seems smoother at transitions between on and off / off and on. May revert back and just keep the old version as it does its job very well in automatic mode.
I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
yeahman45 said:
I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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One note about secondscreen... it will shrink the display to have borders. Some TV / Monitors have zoom or scan adjustments to remove most of the borders.
Here is the link for the free version... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free
Is there like a network device that I can buy to turn my 2.5" external hard drives into NAS so I can access my movies from Stick TV running XBMC?
hydeah said:
Is there like a network device that I can buy to turn my 2.5" external hard drives into NAS so I can access my movies from Stick TV running XBMC?
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I haven't tried it myself, but something like this should work: http://www.amazon.com/HooToo-TripMate-Wireless-Pocket-Travel/dp/B00HZWOQZ6/
hydeah said:
Is there like a network device that I can buy to turn my 2.5" external hard drives into NAS so I can access my movies from Stick TV running XBMC?
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Most new wireless routers have usb with media server features.
If you use a separate router that allows you to connect your external HD & wish to keep the Fire TV connected to your current router then I believe you'll have to bridge both routers, if not then you can only connect to one wireless router at a time. The setup itself shouldn't be that hard but it does take some configuration.
Another option would be to purchase a Y-OTG cable that allows you to connect your external HD directly to the stick but I believe your external HD would need an external power source to make it work. Again, I can't confirm if what I wrote would actually work..just throwing some ideas out there.
AFTVnews.com said:
I haven't tried it myself, but something like this should work: http://www.amazon.com/HooToo-TripMate-Wireless-Pocket-Travel/dp/B00HZWOQZ6/
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Thanks, but I don't believe this will work because it works as a separate router, if it was a USB to CAT5 hub of some sort, it would be ideal but this does not function like that. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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Most new wireless routers have usb with media server features.
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I believe they only work with one USB at a time and the one I had (Netgear AC1750) did not work properly, kept dropping connection or just would randomly not see the hard drive, the way it works is not very user friendly. In fact once it even corrupted one of my hard drives, and I freaked! Luckily Wndows was able to correct the issue. It doesn't show the folders as NAS but more like a network device like a PC, so you couldn't easily see the data in there. I now have a TP Link, WDR3600, I believe it works fine with USB Thumb Drives but it won't work with USB hard drives (multiple) but I can at least try to buy a USB HUB and try that to see if it can mount multiple hard drives. As I mentioned above, I am also concerned about corrupting the hard drives when router is finicky.
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If you use a separate router that allows you to connect your external HD & wish to keep the Fire TV connected to your current router then I believe you'll have to bridge both routers, if not then you can only connect to one wireless router at a time. The setup itself shouldn't be that hard but it does take some configuration.
Another option would be to purchase a Y-OTG cable that allows you to connect your external HD directly to the stick but I believe your external HD would need an external power source to make it work. Again, I can't confirm if what I wrote would actually work..just throwing some ideas out there.
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I believe Fire Stick TV has only one USB port for power and power is required to keep it running. With Y-OTG, we won't be able to get power to the 2.5" external drive anyway and also there is no way to mount that drive easily , so network would be best option.
Found this but it has less than stellar reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Addonics-NASU2-NAS-Adapter/dp/B001OC5J9U
you could try a pogo plug, also make sure the hard drive is not going to sleep. i use a netgear router and have not had an issue with the stick seeing my media. i can mount it as a dlna drive or smb. if you are looking to use it with plex then u will need an actual nas drive so u can run the plex server on it. if the router u have only has one port it is prob only going to mount one drive. but with what ever solution u use i would make sure that the sleep function is off on the hard drive as it can cause issues. if i remember correctly on some of the pogo plugs u can install arch linux and then plug a drive into and have it act as an actual nas and not just a hard drive plugged into the router.
hydeah said:
I believe Fire Stick TV has only one USB port for power and power is required to keep it running. With Y-OTG, we won't be able to get power to the 2.5" external drive anyway and also there is no way to mount that drive easily , so network would be best option.
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Correct, which is why I said the external HD would have to have a separate power supply that is not powered via USB, I do see your point though as most new external drives are powered through the USB.. The Y-OTG cable will still allow you to power your stick & utilize the other connection for data but again if your external HD doesn't have a non-usb connection for power then yes you're out of luck.
I know with the Fire TV Box, people use an app called StickMount to mount external storage, the caveat though is your AFTS has to be Rooted; my guess is with the Y-OTG cable it should allow you to connect your external HD & run the same app but that's if everything I mentioned is in order.
EL TEJANO said:
Correct, which is why I said the external HD would have to have a separate power supply that is not powered via USB, I do see your point though as most new external drives are powered through the USB.. The Y-OTG cable will still allow you to power your stick & utilize the other connection for data but again if your external HD doesn't have a non-usb connection for power then yes you're out of luck.
I know with the Fire TV Box, people use an app called StickMount to mount external storage, the caveat though is your AFTS has to be Rooted; my guess is with the Y-OTG cable it should allow you to connect your external HD & run the same app but that's if everything I mentioned is in order.
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I thought about getting the box since it has better hardware and more ways to "hack" but at $19 I couldn't pass on the Stick which finally allowed me to turn off my computer completely! Now if I can get my XBMC see my storage, i'll be done. Honestly if they charged $50 for stick with USB input or for the actual fire TV box and add USB ports, that would be amazing. I think Apple TV does that, right? But can we get Amazon and XBMC on it?
pbanj said:
you could try a pogo plug, also make sure the hard drive is not going to sleep. i use a netgear router and have not had an issue with the stick seeing my media. i can mount it as a dlna drive or smb. if you are looking to use it with plex then u will need an actual nas drive so u can run the plex server on it. if the router u have only has one port it is prob only going to mount one drive. but with what ever solution u use i would make sure that the sleep function is off on the hard drive as it can cause issues. if i remember correctly on some of the pogo plugs u can install arch linux and then plug a drive into and have it act as an actual nas and not just a hard drive plugged into the router.
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What does Pogo exactly do? I thought it was a hardware for a very specific service to access your files remotely, can you even see the files locally using simple sharing process?
Is this something I can do with Raspberry Pi? I just thought of this, I remember seeing RP units with multiple USB ports and RJ45. If there is a small NAS software, or even a simple linux that allows you to share your drives with other devices, this just might be what I am looking for. I am not sure if RP can power 3 drives simultaneously,
How is something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Ultimate-Starter-Components/dp/B00G1PNG54
Thanks again guys.
hydeah said:
I thought about getting the box since it has better hardware and more ways to "hack" but at $19 I couldn't pass on the Stick which finally allowed me to turn off my computer completely! Now if I can get my XBMC see my storage, i'll be done. Honestly if they charged $50 for stick with USB input or for the actual fire TV box and add USB ports, that would be amazing. I think Apple TV does that, right? But can we get Amazon and XBMC on it?
What does Pogo exactly do? I thought it was a hardware for a very specific service to access your files remotely, can you even see the files locally using simple sharing process?
Is this something I can do with Raspberry Pi? I just thought of this, I remember seeing RP units with multiple USB ports and RJ45. If there is a small NAS software, or even a simple linux that allows you to share your drives with other devices, this just might be what I am looking for. I am not sure if RP can power 3 drives simultaneously,
How is something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Ultimate-Starter-Components/dp/B00G1PNG54
Thanks again guys.
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ya you can use minidlna i think it is called for the rpi. a buddy of mine does that, he says its not the best thing in the world but it does work. i think if you got a banana-pi it may work better as it has better specs and still works with all the rpi stuff. as for the pogo plug im not sure how it normally works but i do know people have been putting arch linux on them to use them for dlna stuff and the model for that is under 20$ iirc
this is the banana pi http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...44&cm_re=banana_pi-_-9SIA6DB2337144-_-Product
http://www.amazon.com/EP-3701-Wireless-Access-Drive-Android/dp/B00IR5DJ4E
pbanj said:
ya you can use minidlna i think it is called for the rpi. a buddy of mine does that, he says its not the best thing in the world but it does work. i think if you got a banana-pi it may work better as it has better specs and still works with all the rpi stuff. as for the pogo plug im not sure how it normally works but i do know people have been putting arch linux on them to use them for dlna stuff and the model for that is under 20$ iirc
this is the banana pi http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...44&cm_re=banana_pi-_-9SIA6DB2337144-_-Product
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I've been checking these, I thought r-pie was about $20 but it seems it will cost a bit more than that if I consider using it as NAS after case, etc it will be $50-$60 or so looks like it. Found this page, btw: http://www.howtogeek.com/139433/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-low-power-network-storage-device/
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http://www.amazon.com/EP-3701-Wireless-Access-Drive-Android/dp/B00IR5DJ4E
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Thanks, but I think I need couple of these, one for each drive, also not sure how the drives get their power or how this one is powered. If it is possible to use this with a hub, maybe it might work, but I am not sure.
In case this thing doesn't work as planned (if I can't easily get XBMC to see external drives) what would you guys recommend as a device that I can run Amazon Prime Video AND be able to access my local videos without having to run my PC 24/7 or at least having to run it whenever I want to watch something off-line.
This will allow pass-through of wifi.
http://www.staples.com/Kingston-MobileLite-Wireless-Flash-Reader/product_195697
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http://www.amazon.com/EP-3701-Wireless-Access-Drive-Android/dp/B00IR5DJ4E
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It do want to point out that these wireless dongles that connect to the external HD need the option to work in infrastructure mode & not in ad-hoc mode (peer to peer).
If they strictly work in ad-hoc mode then you'll only be able to connect to the ad-hoc device (in this case whatever is physically connected to the dongle), which means you won't be able to connect to your home's wireless network at the same. In others words you'll have to disconnect & then reconnect to each different wireless connection as needed.
"An ad hoc network is one where computers connect directly to each other on a one-to-one basis. This is useful for impromptu file sharing between two computers. An infrastructure network is one where computers connect to a shared access point. This kind of connection is useful when sharing a printer, Internet connection, and/or file sharing server." - via Amazons Q&A page.
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This will allow pass-through of wifi.
http://www.staples.com/Kingston-MobileLite-Wireless-Flash-Reader/product_195697
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Thanks for the suggestion, but it seems like this is a one-to-one connection. Sort of like how new "wifi" cameras worked until they changed the way they work, they could only act as hotspot so you could get pictures from your camera with direct connection from PC and not via router.
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It do want to point out that these wireless dongles that connect to the external HD need the option to work in infrastructure mode & not in ad-hoc mode (peer to peer).
If they strictly work in ad-hoc mode then you'll only be able to connect to the ad-hoc device (in this case whatever is physically connected to the dongle), which means you won't be able to connect to your home's wireless network at the same. In others words you'll have to disconnect & then reconnect to each different wireless connection as needed.
"An ad hoc network is one where computers connect directly to each other on a one-to-one basis. This is useful for impromptu file sharing between two computers. An infrastructure network is one where computers connect to a shared access point. This kind of connection is useful when sharing a printer, Internet connection, and/or file sharing server." - via Amazons Q&A page.
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I don't understand why they can't just make these devices with an ethernet port instead... That would solve the problem.
hydeah said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but it seems like this is a one-to-one connection. Sort of like how new "wifi" cameras worked until they changed the way they work, they could only act as hotspot so you could get pictures from your camera with direct connection from PC and not via router.
I don't understand why they can't just make these devices with an ethernet port instead... That would solve the problem.
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Look here for where it says "create an Internet briigde to access the web" http://www.kingston.com/us/wireless/wireless_readers#mlw221
or check out the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kingston.mobilelite&hl=en
or download the user manual
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...g&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNFYGaP4eemi_KkjPmUYtyB_aVr15g
I know this feature works as I have used it myself, but the only storage that I have used are thumb drives and sd cards.
It is supposed to work with USB hard drives up to 1tb but I don't have any to test with.
Edit....the G2 model.has an ethernet port. In the questions section someone replied that the G2 will work with 2tb HD's and I see that up to eight devices can hook to it rather than only three.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KU2E9IW?tag=wwwkingstonco-20
Pogo with archlinux
The Pogoplug e02 hacked with archlinux and minidlna works nice. Cost 20$ on amazon, a bit slow but gets the work done.
adfurgerson said:
Look here for where it says "create an Internet briigde to access the web" http://www.kingston.com/us/wireless/wireless_readers#mlw221
or check out the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kingston.mobilelite&hl=en
or download the user manual
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...g&sa=D&usg=AFQjCNFYGaP4eemi_KkjPmUYtyB_aVr15g
I know this feature works as I have used it myself, but the only storage that I have used are thumb drives and sd cards.
It is supposed to work with USB hard drives up to 1tb but I don't have any to test with.
Edit....the G2 model.has an ethernet port. In the questions section someone replied that the G2 will work with 2tb HD's and I see that up to eight devices can hook to it rather than only three.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KU2E9IW?tag=wwwkingstonco-20
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Is the app only way to change settings or access the device? Does it have SMB or DLNA type file server? Every single device shown on their product page is either a phone or a tablet, how do you get your data on Windows (it lists windows as compatible)?
It also says "For Android and Kindle Fire, video support is limited to 2GB." I believe that doesn't matter if we use XBMC on any device including Android based Fire Stick, right?
Found the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tQ1GRf38e8
Thanks, the G2 model's ethernet port is acting as WAN port to turn wired connection to wireless, so only way to connect with this device locally is still wireless, which is still OK since it seems like this is the only device that can do this. I have 3 devices, varying from 500 to 2TB so it sounds like I definitely need G2.
hydeah said:
Is the app only way to change settings or access the device? Does it have SMB or DLNA type file server? Every single device shown on their product page is either a phone or a tablet, how do you get your data on Windows (it lists windows as compatible)?
It also says "For Android and Kindle Fire, video support is limited to 2GB." I believe that doesn't matter if we use XBMC on any device including Android based Fire Stick, right?
Found the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tQ1GRf38e8
Thanks, the G2 model's ethernet port is acting as WAN port to turn wired connection to wireless, so only way to connect with this device locally is still wireless, which is still OK since it seems like this is the only device that can do this. I have 3 devices, varying from 500 to 2TB so it sounds like I definitely need G2.
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I have to admit it was an impulse buy from Staples store and other than connecting to it to make sure it worked I haven't used it at all. Sorry I can't answer any more questions, but in the question section of Amazon for the G2 there were responses from a Kingston agent named Jewell and she gave this at the end " For any further assistance, please call us at 1-800-435-0640 (USA and Canada only) M - F 6am - 6pm PT and I or another available Technician will assist you. Thank you for choosing Kingston".
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I have to admit it was an impulse buy from Staples store and other than connecting to it to make sure it worked I haven't used it at all. Sorry I can't answer any more questions, but in the question section of Amazon for the G2 there were responses from a Kingston agent named Jewell and she gave this at the end " For any further assistance, please call us at 1-800-435-0640 (USA and Canada only) M - F 6am - 6pm PT and I or another available Technician will assist you. Thank you for choosing Kingston".
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Sorry! It sounds like I overwhelmed you with my question, which I admit might have been excessive. :angel:
I'll check out more info on Amazon.
Also found this:
http://www.amazon.com/Cirago-International-NUS2000-CiragoLink-Network/dp/B005C31H34