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Is there a case for the A43 with a keyboard?
arpruss said:
Is there a case for the A43 with a keyboard?
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I dont looked for this, but i think no..
The A43 is to small to have something like this...
The keyboard would be at least 5x bigger than the archos
I dont think so.
Lenn said:
I dont looked for this, but i think no..
The A43 is to small to have something like this...
The keyboard would be at least 5x bigger than the archos
I dont think so.
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Not necessarily. There are keyboard cases for iPhone and Samsung Galaxy S that come with a mini bluetooth keyboard. I couldn't find anything for 4.3" devices though. I would be interested in the same thing!
I haven't seen a case yet but these small Bluetooth keyboards work well with the A43
http://www.ipazzport.com/productlist.html
My knowledge of existing case with the keyboard only for Archos 101
Lenn said:
I dont looked for this, but i think no..
The A43 is to small to have something like this...
The keyboard would be at least 5x bigger than the archos
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Not really. My Treo's built-in keyboard is very useful at its tiny size--I can enter text much, much faster than with an on-screen keyboard, especially given how poor the A43's touch screen is (yes, even with a stylus)--and it's about half of the height and width of the A43.
I would suggest you to use mini-bluetooth-keyboards.
DroidSlave said:
I would suggest you to use mini-bluetooth-keyboards.
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I guess what I want is to make the device into a clamshell, so I can type on it while holding it. With a bluetooth keyboard, one needs either three hands or some place to either lay down the keyboard or the device.
I've been looking at the Samsung Keyboard dock, Logitech Bluetooth keyboard at BestBuy, and the Motorola Xoom keyboard.
I'm still not sure which is a better buy, and which one will work best for me.
I was using the Android on screen keyboard, but it no longer vibrates after installing the TouchWiz update.
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cdf3 said:
I've been looking at the Samsung Keyboard dock, Logitech Bluetooth keyboard at BestBuy, and the Motorola Xoom keyboard.
I'm still not sure which is a better buy, and which one will work best for me.
I was using the Android on screen keyboard, but it no longer vibrates after installing the TouchWiz update.
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did you check that haptic feedback is enabled? You have to check the configuration of whatever keyboard you're using (it's under settings--language and input--configure input methods--[select the keyboard you're using, i suspect it's the default samsung keyboard].
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did you check that haptic feedback is enabled? You have to check the configuration of whatever keyboard you're using (it's under settings--language and input--configure input methods--[select the keyboard you're using, i suspect it's the default samsung keyboard].
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It's selected. I've tried numerous times of turning it on and off. Seems to be some type of bug within TouchWiz that keeps it from working. It works in a few other keyboards I have installed, but the Android keyboard will no longer vibrate.
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Loitech keyboard! I love it battery life seems great, had it for 3 weeks. Its less than the Samsung one and uses bt so it will work with other devices. Comes with a nice protective case / stand.
The Samsung Bluetooth Keyboard Case is now available on their site for the 10.1. You can ask to be notified when available. They said it will be available in the next couple of weeks. If you google, you will see some CNET reviews that give you better pictures. It is supposedly as thin as the notebook case. I just hope it does not have the same flaws as the notebook case. I am returning mine tomorrow. The case seems to allow for easy depression of the power button. I am constantly turning the tablet on/off. I will pick it up, lift the flap, and find the device is booting back up. Not very helpful at all!
The samsung bluetooth keyboard/case looks the best so far. Of course its not out yet. Personally I want a keyboard that has capabilities of charging my tab, kinda like the asus keyboard. Anyway way to extend my battery life!!
I may have missed out on all the Touchpad craziness, but I did pick up a closeout Touchpad bluetooth keyboard from Office Depot for $25+tax using a Staples coupon from here. They had it priced at $69.99 in-store, but their website has it at $29.99 on clearance so just ask for a price adjustment.
It's a really nice feeling chiclet keyboard, about the size of the Apple Bluetooth, and uses AA vs. AAA so I expect good battery life. Some of the function keys don't seem to work (brightness, power, not sure about media) but the top left works as ESC and the Control keys do what they're supposed to, and it works great with Connectbot so I'm happy.
mespo365 said:
The samsung bluetooth keyboard/case looks the best so far. Of course its not out yet. Personally I want a keyboard that has capabilities of charging my tab, kinda like the asus keyboard. Anyway way to extend my battery life!!
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Based on the picture I saw, it seems to be better suited for table top use and not lap use.
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I looked at the logitech and samsung keyboards.
I chose the logitech.
I didn't want to have to remove my tab from its case to use a keyboard. Thats one of the reasons i ditched the asus.
I like the keyboard shortcuts on the logitech, and i like that i can use it with my home theater pc.
The samsung seems too expensive for a non wireless keyboard imo.
Besides, its just a rehash of the old tab keyboard.
are you guys talking about the zagg keyboard or the Logitech one with the little plastic stand. I'm waiting on the zagg one up for preorder on Logitech. Com
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I looked at the logitech and samsung keyboards.
I chose the logitech.
I didn't want to have to remove my tab from its case to use a keyboard. Thats one of the reasons i ditched the asus.
I like the keyboard shortcuts on the logitech, and i like that i can use it with my home theater pc.
The samsung seems too expensive for a non wireless keyboard imo.
Besides, its just a rehash of the old tab keyboard.
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I keep my tab in the case as well. I agree, I don't think I want to keep taking my tab in and out of the case to use the keyboard.
I've been keeping my eye on the LogiTech keyboard. So far I'm starting to use Thumb Keyboard more.
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The zagg case just arrived today, got two shipped to NZ (one for my gf) and i have to say im very impressed with it.
They claim several weeks battery life of normal use(not sure how that compares to alternatives). though it charges through micro usb along with most new phones.
its very light, but also feels solid at the same time, the keys feel similar to the asus transformer dock but they are definitely more responsive.
although they state on their website that it has poor compatibility with the 10.1 in portrait mode i think it works quite well, stands fine and doesn't feel like falling over at all.
it has raised rubber feet on top of the metal so you can lie your tablet down ontop of dock without worrying about damaging it.
it has all the shortcuts you need, including full music control, android function key. escape takes you to home screen while the back key is placed where right alt is on a normal keyboard.
all in all, very nice dock of solid build that weighs less then the tablet for $69.99
Edit: its also bluetooth, so no need to take tab out of its case.
Anyone know how to fix the problem of the onscreen keyboard popping up with any of them? It gets annoying.
which logitech keyboard are u talking about guys?
SamerBerjawi said:
which logitech keyboard are u talking about guys?
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Mine is just an android logitech bluetooth keyboard. I got it on amazon.
nayr1991 said:
The zagg case just arrived today, got two shipped to NZ (one for my gf) and i have to say im very impressed with it.
They claim several weeks battery life of normal use(not sure how that compares to alternatives). though it charges through micro usb along with most new phones.
its very light, but also feels solid at the same time, the keys feel similar to the asus transformer dock but they are definitely more responsive.
although they state on their website that it has poor compatibility with the 10.1 in portrait mode i think it works quite well, stands fine and doesn't feel like falling over at all.
it has raised rubber feet on top of the metal so you can lie your tablet down ontop of dock without worrying about damaging it.
it has all the shortcuts you need, including full music control, android function key. escape takes you to home screen while the back key is placed where right alt is on a normal keyboard.
all in all, very nice dock of solid build that weighs less then the tablet for $69.99
Edit: its also bluetooth, so no need to take tab out of its case.
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Do you have a link? I couldn't find it on their website. The iPad version kept popping up.
Also, can it be used on your lap, or does it only work on a table top surface?
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cdf3 said:
Do you have a link? I couldn't find it on their website. The iPad version kept popping up.
Also, can it be used on your lap, or does it only work on a table top surface?
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Maybe this is the one:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/for-android/devices/keyboard-case-samsung-galaxy
c-loo said:
Maybe this is the one:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/for-android/devices/keyboard-case-samsung-galaxy
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Doesn't seems as nice as the one for the iPad.
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do any of these keyboards designed for the 10.1 have a built in touchpad on them? if not will any bluetooth keyboard with touchpad work?
Hi guys,can i use this rom on a stock gingerbread rom tnx! dnt wana brick my tab.
I'm thinking about trading in my Droid 4 for a S3 only if there is a bluetooth keyboard case. I do know that they sell a bluetooth keyboard... I know iPhone users get access to a Bluetooth keyboard case... I really need the physical and i dont wanna carry around a bluetooth keyboard.
Why would you need a Bluetooth keyboard? On screen keys are so easy. I loved the keyboard on my old D4 but onscreen keyboards are on point this day n age. The iPhone bluetooth keyboard I had on my old iPhone 4S was garbage. Returned it within 3 days. But to answer your question, no there isn't that I know of n I'm almost positive there won't be one neither
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xXJay_RXx said:
Why would you need a Bluetooth keyboard? On screen keys are so easy. I loved the keyboard on my old D4 but onscreen keyboards are on point this day n age. The iPhone bluetooth keyboard I had on my old iPhone 4S was garbage. Returned it within 3 days. But to answer your question, no there isn't that I know of n I'm almost positive there won't be one neither
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Does anyone know for sure? I know someone who wants to get an S3 but the decision is predicated on getting a bluetooth keyboard case. I see them on china wholesale sites, anyone know of a US seller?
xXJay_RXx said:
Why would you need a Bluetooth keyboard? On screen keys are so easy. I loved the keyboard on my old D4 but onscreen keyboards are on point this day n age. The iPhone bluetooth keyboard I had on my old iPhone 4S was garbage. Returned it within 3 days. But to answer your question, no there isn't that I know of n I'm almost positive there won't be one neither
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Maybe for you.
But I stil HATE onscreen keyboards. I came from a Droid 2 to S III. While the big screen is almost doable for typing, for email the entire screen is covered in landscape with swiftkey (samsung's keyboard is a pile of useless garbage in my opinion).
I'd pay a LOT for a slider keyboard case to make an S III like a Droid.
I've seen some flip wallet keyboards on alibaba.com from chinese wholesalers. They just stuck one of those generic BT keyboards to a wallet case. I want a good slider like the Boxwave Keyboard Buddy for iPhone.
S III has to be one of the best selling Android phones ever. I hope a company manufactures a slider keyboard case or at least a good wallet case. With a kickstand and slider keyboard it would be AWESOME.
I had a Droid with a kickstand case and it was fantastic, the sliding keyboard added height to use it on tables.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30279630#post30279630 Check out post #6
http://www.boxwave.com/community/request/request_model.cfm.
I don't know of any yet but like has been mentioned, pretty much any small bt keyboard should work. The problem is just attaching it to a case in a slick way.
Btw, I will say that I was unsure of the virtual keyboards until I started using SwiftKey. It has predictions and auto corrections which are amazing and I can touch type with it faster than I could with the hardware keyboard on my old phone
Ps. If you do fine a keyboard case, please let us know
I have a genuine leather case + wireless bluetooth keyboard for Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300.
I know you said you ate on screen keyboards. I had a LogiTech diNovo Mini keyboard but I still find myself preferring to use SW keyboard.
I use MultiLing Keyboard. It is really versatile. It allows me to customise everything from size, colour of every key, pop up delay, what symbols are behind each key, the order of punctuation suggestions, even whether smilies have noses.
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I Like The First One The Best Personally .
Have you bought one of them?
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I bought this one on Amazon, but it looks like Newegg is carrying it now. Same price too. $25.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1NV0GP8415
These two keyboards have the same price $29.99 on Amazon, therefore I will focus on appearance and function features. They are both black, glossy, aluminum, and ultrathin. Anker’s dimension is 9.4 x 5.1 x 0.2 inches, Lumsing’s is 10.24 x 5.31 x 0.39 inches. The weight have slim difference, 8 ounces Anker and 7.95 ounces Lumsing.
Both of them have the thickest part on the top. There are the rechargeable lithium batteries. Both work up to 140 hours. Also, same recharging solution through USB cable. However, there is a little bit different. The batteries of Anker is in the top front. It makes that part hidden visually. Therefore, the whole keyboard looks like a very thin board. Meanwhile, Lumsing put it in the top bottom as a stand for the keyboard. It makes the keyboard inclined on horizontal surface. Moreover, Lumsing designed a hidden stand for tablet / phones. It pop out from the top of keyboard.
Furthermore, their keystrokes are similar. Either of them have number pad. Anyways, it is normal for ultrathin keyboard. Function keys are on the top, 3 OS shiftable, bla bla bla. However, there is a tiny difference. Lumsing’s characters are printed with fluorescent materials. Therefore, you can see it in dark environment. Those materials emit soft green yellow light. Quite a sweet design for me as I like the room light out during with a screen.
Overall, they are similar mostly even the price. but Lumsing have pop out stand for tablets and fluorescent keystroke for the same price. Considered a better bargain.
Thanks for posting this review.
Could you post a picture of the Lumsing with the Nexus 7 on it?
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Thanks for posting this review.
Could you post a picture of the Lumsing with the Nexus 7 on it?
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Not to question the integrity of the OP, but he's got one post which seems, ah, pretty invested in one of those two keyboards.
Larrondo said:
Not to question the integrity of the OP, but he's got one post which seems, ah, pretty invested in one of those two keyboards.
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And I suddenly noticed that.
I bought the Anker keyboard and it works quite well with my 2013 N7.
sparksd said:
I bought the Anker keyboard and it works quite well with my 2013 N7.
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How portable is it? Isn't it a bit larger than the N7? How are you carrying it around? I've been thinking about a folding keyboard.
Larrondo said:
How portable is it? Isn't it a bit larger than the N7? How are you carrying it around? I've been thinking about a folding keyboard.
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It is slightly larger than the N7. I bought a Cosmos neoprene case for it. At 8 oz it's hard to really get any lighter and that was the big reason I bought it to replace my heavy Logitech Bluetooth keyboard. This thing weighs next to nothing.
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It is slightly larger than the N7. I bought a Cosmos neoprene case for it. At 8 oz it's hard to really get any lighter and that was the big reason I bought it to replace my heavy Logitech Bluetooth keyboard. This thing weighs next to nothing.
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Hm. Thanks for the info. I might end up going for this after all-- but the one I'm seeing on Amazon says it's 11oz-- still plenty light for a keyboard (almost exactly what the N7 weighs.) It's also dropped to $20 bucks.
Larrondo said:
How portable is it? Isn't it a bit larger than the N7? How are you carrying it around? I've been thinking about a folding keyboard.
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Larrondo said:
Hm. Thanks for the info. I might end up going for this after all-- but the one I'm seeing on Amazon says it's 11oz-- still plenty light for a keyboard (almost exactly what the N7 weighs.) It's also dropped to $20 bucks.
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You're looking at the larger Anker keyboard - that one is 1.8" longer than the Anker I got:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Slim-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B00BKW2410/ref=pd_cp_pc_2
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You're looking at the larger Anker keyboard - that one is 1.8" longer than the Anker I got:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Slim-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B00BKW2410/ref=pd_cp_pc_2
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I see. Very nice. Thanks for pointing me at the right one.
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I see. Very nice. Thanks for pointing me at the right one.
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Glad to help.
On a more general note regarding Bluetooth keyboards, some are not playing well with Android 4.3:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-compatibility-with-many-bluetooth-keyboards/
Also, don't expect full compatibility with those that work. I've tried several different makes and there's always something popping up, usually having to do with particular apps (e.g., use of arrows to scroll doesn't work with some browsers) but also special function keys (like increasing or decreasing brightness) may not work. On the Anker keyboard, the Delete key is purposefully used to toggle the N7's screen on or off (Backspace works as expected). Each one seems to have its quirks.
I can confirm certain issues with the anker keyboard.
While generally working perfectly fine, some keys simply do not what they are intended to, others are not functional at all.
Sometimes i have double keystroke recongnition while fast typing, which can reesult in ssome interresting typping. (errors in last sentence are for showcase only )
What bugs me most is, that i cant press enter in skype to send a message. in fact skype recognizes the keyboard, sets the focus and disables the send button completely. i have to switch off the keyboard or try to get a focus change to get back the ability to klick on send. Seems to be a mixed problem of android an buggy skype though.
Just another option...
I tried the N7 with Apple Wireless Keyboard and Logitech K810 Bluetooth Keyboard. The Apple one have some issue with delayed key.
The K810 seems to works well...so far. And this is in addition to allowing the keyboard to connect up to 3 devices, with button so you can switch easily (F1, F2 and F3).
I am planning to buy one more when it's on sale (was $59.99 on Amazon) and bring it to my office so I can use it with my Win 7 machine, iMac and Nexus 7!
I thought I read somewhere that the Bluetooth keyboard issues happened early in 4.3 but have since been fixed. Does anyone know if that's true or just wishful thinking on my part. If the issues aren't fixed on 4.3, are they fixed on 4.4?
Hello Everyone,
I am going to be getting a Nexus 7 for Christmas this year with plans to use it at the office, particularly to take to meetings for note-taking and sharing PDF's of plans and reports (I'm a civil engineer). I've been doing some research on gear and believe I'm going to want an external keyboard, but don't know exactly which way to go. I've read lots of mixed reviews on the keyboard cases such as this one. Some say they're great, others say they're too small to be useful (and I have pretty big hands).
I've read awesome reviews on this keyboard as well as this one. But I'm not sure how I would easily transport the tablet and keyboard.
In addition, I'll need some sort of case I would imagine. I've got all these thoughts going through my head and would like some advice from you guys on things that have worked for you
Don't buy the keyboard cases if I were you. It's pretty hard to type on I have big hands and was just not comfortable at all to type on it. Ended up returning two keyboards very similar to those. I guess they can't really make a very comfortable keyboard in a7 inch form factor so can't really blame them. I'm in the same boat as you I would like to get some sort of case what the keyboard so that I can carry my tablet with me all together. I'm still on the quest to looking for a nice keyboard case. But if you really want to be comfortable and typing something thats really usable then get just a normal Bluetooth keyboard full-size.
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you Might be best to go for a case like this http://www.xtremecables.net/7inchneoprenecase.aspx so you can carrry KB too if it fits or even a larger 10" neoprene case. I really like the neoprenecases myself. Man purse
I've been looking at the Stealth Pro case by M-Edge, but only because I have a ridiculous discount; the cost would be prohibitive otherwise.
Trouble is, no one seems to have reviewed it. The feel of a keyboard is personal but crucial, so I hesitate to experiment (even at $40) when I'm fairly sure I'd like the Logitech 760.
Pity the Microsoft Wedge Mobile is said to have connection issues. It seems like the best ergonomic compromise (the slant of the raised keyboard looks perfect for typing) and comes with a useful case that "powers down the device when attached," doubles as a tablet stand and adds a lovely silver border around the relatively large keys.
I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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joelcripes said:
I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
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As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
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Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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Nice. How's the typing on it?
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joelcripes said:
Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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Nice. How's the typing on it?
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
So here's another question. Has anyone used a stylus to write notes on their Nexus "by hand"?
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
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I own devices which run on four platforms at the moment: Windows, OX X, Linux and Android (though you could argue I've only listed three platforms, since Android = Linux).
Since Logitech is the only option with a lit keyboard, I might get one for home use at some point.
Logically, the Anker is the one to get for the road and for everything but Windows 8.
That said, I was able to use a discount code on the Mobile Wedge (W8) from Office Depot and thought I'd try it, since the price has only climbed everywhere else. Some people have complained about connection issues; I'll let you know how it fares.
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
I also think that users' idiosyncrasies and abuse-case scenarios are too disparate for keyboard generalizations to ever prove universal. Sparksd makes a fair point, but it isn't always applicable (though it might be to the OP's concerns).
In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
I'm sure I'll find the Wedge Mobile and the Anker infinitely more intuitive than SwiftKey (which I also own). The only thing I'm unsure of is whether the Wedge will disappoint in terms of holding its bluetooth connection.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
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In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
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Quite the contrarian!
I learned initially on a mechanical typewriter that weighed more than I did (or so it seemed). I type over 100wpm when I'm copying text or writing something I've pre-composed in my head, and 80+wpm if I'm composing while I write.
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard. Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions. Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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Quite the contrarian!
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If I'm the contrarian, then why are you the one who posted on a thread asking for the best scaled-down keyboard just to say they're all useless?
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard.
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You're presupposing that every user expects the same experience from a smaller keyboard as a larger one -- as opposed to an improved experience for an individual with specific preferences.
Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
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Your extended use of the second person implies you feel that your optimal experience is normative. And while I appreciate the specificity of your preferences, and don't doubt that many people would agree with them, I have to point out that your preferences aren't mine, which is an indication that you don't speak for everyone.
What I'm after is stochastic precision of thought as opposed to pure speed. I revise heavily, so there are times when haste is actually a deterrent. When I write, I feel most alive not when thought is quickest but when word alchemy is purest.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions.
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The entire experience of SwiftKey is predicated on the ease of use afforded by predictive text. The idea is that it learns what the user does repeatedly, which is fine if one's intention is to repeat oneself and if one's style is not felicitously idiosyncratic.
Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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Whereas my experience is that SwiftKey's substitutions are almost never correct. Google's were actually more accurate, but neither VK is satisfactory when I'm writing fiction.
I don't mind lingering over text while I'm writing. The speed afforded by the keyboard needn't be Andretti-fast. What must never happen is for the AI to insert banal words and syntax continuously while I'm confecting sentences deliberately.
Everyone has their own preferences when seeking tools for specific work. I picked up my Mobile Wedge two nights ago and, so far, it's been aces. No bluetooth dropouts, perfect form factor, extremely useful keyboard cover / tablet stand and very reasonable output. The Anker has more versatile keyboard mapping (separate maps for android, windows and mac; the home button really takes you to the home page, unlike the Wedge's), but I bought a keyboard for writing, not navigating the desktop.
Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
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Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
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I could probably get used to Anker's right shift key, eventually, but not comfortably. The Lumsing looks so nice that I'm tempted to get one. Overall I think the relatively few reviews are still pretty good.
Not related to office but I find at home, I use a case to stand it up then fire up my PS3 controller and rock on emulators and play the classic games, plenty of games on the Market but there's something special about playing nostalgia games. Just another use for the tab if your into gaming.