Title. Is there an app that actually moves/installs apps to the ext-SD rather than the int-SD?
Honestly you probably won't ever see that on our phones because there is so much internal storage in our phones.
Got boost?
Why? And no, not until someone makes an a2ext script for our phones. You can try searching for 'DarkTremor' and run his script, it may work but I doubt it. There's also a GUI 'app' for controlling it's settings. But doing something like a2ext isn't an 'app' - this isn't Apple. Some stuff you do with these phones requires brain power to accomplish, the learning curve is pretty steep for Android.
Same as the above post though, you won't need it.
EDIT - EXTERNAL SD, not ext-sd. I thought you were referring to and ext partition. Anyway, sure. There are plenty in the market and Titanium backup will do it too. Until we have Cyanogen (or another Dev does it) only certain apps will go to the sdcard, that's determined by the app developer. You do understand this will cause some apps to not work while you have the sdcard mounted, right? Also they take forever to load up on boot - and no widgets can go on the sd.
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I Google's and became more confused on this. Is there any benefit to this other than if you somehow reach Max storage on the phone? So if I partition the SD do I have to us apps2sd? Can I just use titanium backup and put on SD card or does that not us the partition I created? Alot of apps don't work with move2sd app. Apps2sd isn't I'm the market. Also doesn't show much apps and I know the developer has to sign or do something so it will work.. bit don't want people to share for free. But titanium does it was any app.
From what I read this phone doesn't work like a computer with the memory. What I mean is if I use the system app and shows a list of apps running "if you can say running I'm not sure" its not really slowing my phone down. From what I understand is if I force close them I will use more power and CPU when my phone starts them back up...
So is there any benefit? Do I really need to force close any programs or apps that are running and I'm not using. Etc Gmail. I don't use Gmail. Just a example as I already deleted the apk.
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No.generally you don't need to force anything to close. It is possible to come along a ****ty app that never sleeps, but that's rare.
Regarding partitioning for apps2sd, it is very highly unlikely that you need this on the evo or future phones. The benefit is being able to put apps on the card that disallow froyos ability to put apps on the card. You really don't have that many apps that don't allow it.
Check out "sdmove" in the market as the native way to move apps is annoying as ****.
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Yeah that app shows only 3 apps I can move while titanium I moved 16.. hit the 1700 mark with cm6 with stock kernel.
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Should I un-partition my SD card
I have Apps2SD but I don't see the benefit of it. I just end up waiting longer for devs(like Virus) to work it into their latest releases.
Is there any substantial benefit of having my SD card partitioned and using Apps2SD?
(FYI i have a 16gb class6 card)
Thanks in advance.
MattySauce said:
I have Apps2SD but I don't see the benefit of it. I just end up waiting longer for devs(like Virus) to work it into their latest releases.
Is there any substantial benefit of having my SD card partitioned and using Apps2SD?
(FYI i have a 16gb class6 card)
Thanks in advance.
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* Native move to SD can't move everything (as already stated). Darktremor moves everything, automatically.
* Native move to SD puts everything on the main SD partition, and whenever you plug your Evo in in disk drive mode, the apps on the SD become unavailable. With Darktremor, they all still work, even when the Evo is in disk drive mode.
I've noticed ROMs such as Uncommon Sense and SkyRaider include a modified media scanner that enables non-HTC apps to access the internal EMMC storage.
I'm currently running Virtuous 3.0.1; is there an apk or other file I can pull from either one of those ROMs to replace my current one, or would it involve a lot more than that?
XideXL said:
I've noticed ROMs such as Uncommon Sense and SkyRaider include a modified media scanner that enables non-HTC apps to access the internal EMMC storage.
I'm currently running Virtuous 3.0.1; is there an apk or other file I can pull from either one of those ROMs to replace my current one, or would it involve a lot more than that?
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It is possible to drag-n-drop a file to get your media scanner to read EMMC. HOWEVER, there are some sacrifices you will have to make for this ability. For one thing, you will bork your ability for the camera application to write to EMMC. The same thing goes for your voice recorder application. You can only write to the sd card directly from these applications. So its your call.
This is something I'd love to see also. While I'm currently on Virtuous, it would be nice for a universal .apk or something to apply in Rom Manager/CWM that works for any rom. I tend to try roms out here and there, so something universal would be very handy.
As for the "loss of functionality". What's the big deal with Pictures? You can save them to SD. I fact, I think mine have always saved to SD. What's the advantage of saving to EMMC > SD? And personally, I never have used Voice Recorder.....
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This is something I'd love to see also. While I'm currently on Virtuous, it would be nice for a universal .apk or something to apply in Rom Manager/CWM that works for any rom. I tend to try roms out here and there, so something universal would be very handy.
As for the "loss of functionality". What's the big deal with Pictures? You can save them to SD. I fact, I think mine have always saved to SD. What's the advantage of saving to EMMC > SD? And personally, I never have used Voice Recorder.....
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IMHO the emmc isn't used by anything.g except HTC. Saving camera to emmc gives you that much more free space on your SD card
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The reason I'm interested in it is that I only have the crappy 2gb SD card that came with the phone, so I store my 4 gigs of music on EMMC.
I use Launcher Pro and have been wanting a music widget that shows artwork. I've tried a couple out, but they either don't work on DInc (Pure) or I don't like their design (Mixzing).
I recently pulled the Music Mod app from Uncommon Sense for it's widget, which is exactly what I'm looking for. All I need now is for the app to be able to read EMMC and I'll have the widget I've been wanting for so long.
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deficitism said:
It is possible to drag-n-drop a file to get your media scanner to read EMMC. HOWEVER, there are some sacrifices you will have to make for this ability. For one thing, you will bork your ability for the camera application to write to EMMC. The same thing goes for your voice recorder application. You can only write to the sd card directly from these applications. So its your call.
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As for this, I am looking for an integrated solution that won't have these side effects. Again because I only have a 2gb SD card, which is mostly used up by 2 nandroid backups and titanium backup for all my apps/settings, leaving a tiny bit of room for me to download a ROM or two on there if need be.
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There are two ways to do it. Use the media scanner code in cyanogenmod witch now scans the /mnt directory not just /mnt/sdcard. You can also make mount the emmc partition to /sdcard/emmc this works as well.
xdarkfirex said:
There are two ways to do it. Use the media scanner code in cyanogenmod witch now scans the /mnt directory not just /mnt/sdcard. You can also make mount the emmc partition to /sdcard/emmc this works as well.
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I have some coding experience, but unfortunately I'm not at all familiar with the internals of android. Any idea where can I locate the code for the media scanner from within cyanogenmod?
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XideXL said:
I have some coding experience, but unfortunately I'm not at all familiar with the internals of android. Any idea where can I locate the code for the media scanner from within cyanogenmod?
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http://github.com/CyanogenMod/andro...mmit/aa20f4dbf99f9f11122e560a2087d8999728c71f
Thanks k_flan!
Unfortunately as I've said, I'm a noob with Android programming. At the risk of being a bit annoying, would anyone be so kind as to tell this beginner how I can compile/build this code into something I can slap on my device? I have Eclipse set up with the Android SDK and everything, I've just never done anything with it. I notice this code is part of a service rather than just a run of the mill apk, so I'm assuming I can't just pull a file and replace it on my end, but I don't know how something like that does work.
I'm still trying to figure out what good having 8gb of internal storage is when nothing seems to be able to make use of it.
Sure, I can copy files to it, MP3s, etc, but the music player doesn't seem to look there since I have an 8gb card installed as well.
(Yeah, I know I can use Astro or something to go play them -- but that's not really convenient...)
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... You can also make mount the emmc partition to /sdcard/emmc this works as well.
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I somehow doubt this would work ... and if it did, not cause problems.
From the stand point of liunx, mounting emmc to a directory on the sim card is actually a very good method if your after simply playing music. If your after any of the other functionality the phone may use the internal storage for then your assed out, but to just access music. Good plan.
For me, I'd care less about saving pictures to SD versus EMMC. I'm more concerned about the 2-3 gigs of music being on EMMC than to be forced to save pictures to SD (which is what it's doing be default on every rom I've used anyways). As someone pointed out, what good is my 8 gigs of internal memory doing if I can't use it for music or videos. Yes, the problem is more so that apps like TuneWiki should add the function that the stock player has (don't tell me it can't be done, if there are apps already doing it). But if there's a work around that has what feels like a small sacrifice, I don't understand the big deal. I am not saying all roms should come with this as a stock setting, but if someone were to be able to whip up something that will work across roms, that would be nifty =]
I have Titanium Pro and am still learning all the things it can do.
But, as I read forums I see a lot of people have apps2sd
Would getting apps2sd be redundant or will it do something that TP doesn't?
Apps2sd is totally different than using Titanium as far as moving apps. In a nutshell, apps2sd creates a partition on your sd card and allows you to run all of your apps from the sd, depending on how large the partition is. It pretty much "tricks" the android os into thinking that the extension is part of the os memory. If you go this route, make sure your ROM supports it.
Read all about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10454445&postcount=3070
Thank you agent
What's the advantages of using apps2sd?
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More space to run more apps and we all love apps don't we? lol
^^^yes... yes we do. I use apps2sd primarily and use titanium for the apps that say 'phone only' The more space, the merrier!
How can I tell which apps can be moved to sdcard without issues. If you use a widget for a certain app you have to leave it on the phone's memory right? I am using CM7 and I was wondering since it allows you to move all apps or should I uncheck move all apps and then the ones that you are allowed to move will they still have that option? Thanks Again!
Right, apps have to be in phone memory for you to use their widget. I use App2SD (there is a free version) to keep track of what can be moved, is on phone memory, and is on SD.
i was using app2sd up till 3 days ago.
just bought Titanium Backup and i swear i saw somewhere in a batchsomething(?)...
found out i can move more than app2sd would let me do.
cant remember where i saw it @?????
Titanium is good for moving apps to SD too. Hit Menu, then Batch, scroll down to "Move/Integrate". It will let you batch move apps to SD or back to internal. If you have the Pro version it will batch all of them. Even the paid version of App2SD makes you select "Move to SD" for every app.
But, for moving one or two apps back and forth I still prefer App2SD. As soon as you launch it, it shows what apps are internal and external.
Now my next question is...
Are there any certain apps u would leave on on the phone?
I.E. stability issues?
Not dissing on app2sd, it has been a loyal soldier;
why has titanium allowed me to move more apps?
Been considering tasker next.
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error629 said:
Now my next question is...
Are there any certain apps u would leave on on the phone?
I.E. stability issues?
Not dissing on app2sd, it has been a loyal soldier;
why has titanium allowed me to move more apps?
Been considering tasker next.
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just how it was programmed. to be able to move any and everything i am guessing. i tried App2sd and it didnt move all the things i needed it to like Titan did.
You don't want to move launchers or anything your phone needs when it boots. I'd say any system app that you shouldn't remove shouldn't be moved to the SD card, since your phone will fail without it.
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Leave any system app, on the phone. The only user apps that "need" to be on the sdcard are widgets, or anything that may need to read the phone state, like an alarm clock app/widget.
Has anyone tried moving all user apps to the Sdcard to have them run out of the sdcard? I would like to run the apps out of my extsdcard.
I did on another device once... some apps worked others I found need to be on internal.... trial and error I guess.I ended up whipping and starting over. It was about a 5 minute adventure that devastated this noob at the time.... I am still a noob... any how IMHO just leave things be and let them default. Unless you have a storage issue..??... I am not really sure what the reason is for having A2sd. I could see it on older devices that has a lack of internal or maybe if using a class 10 micro SD could speed up some applications.... I guess what is your reason for doing it? It if you do do this any ways make back ups and I would only do one at a time and then test. I remember having issues with widgets. Hope this help or some one with more knowledge than me can chime in.
There used to be a hack for it. It's no longer needed.
Moving apps to the EXT-SD card that aren't meant to be there, is just going to cause you problems and with all the storage this phone has is....well, silly.
Definitely don't move apps that you want to start/run at boot, or apps that have widgets (especially widgets you have on your homescreens)
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