Develop Bugs

"Don't keep activities" - anybody use it?

Love the phone but a few times the launcher has redrawn after exiting an app because of most likely memory issues. Anybody using this option? Assuming over time this would keep more memory free and reduce this issue. Any thoughts?
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mobilehavoc said:
Love the phone but a few times the launcher has redrawn after exiting an app because of most likely memory issues. Anybody using this option? Assuming over time this would keep more memory free and reduce this issue. Any thoughts?
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This is one of the reasons why I don't like that Google included these developer options pre-installed on this phone. They're developer options for a reason, we can install them if we need to.
This feature is designed so that developers can test their app to be sure that data is properly saved when is no longer in the foreground. For example, if a user receives a phone call or jumps to another app, the app needs to do what is necessary to save it's data. At times, Android can kill a process in the background. If the user plans to go back (perhaps they finished the phone call), they want to see what it is they were working on last. The developer is supposed to handle this case by rebuilding everything as it was before (to provide that seamless experience for the user when switching between apps).
This debug feature helps us test that it works.
For the average user, all you're really more likely to do is slow down your apps. As they will have to rebuild themselves when you resume them, and you may even open yourself to more quirky bugs (for those apps that didn't properly test the above scenario).
So please don't enable it unless you're doing it for development purposes. My 2 cents.
*EDIT* Here's a page from the Android Dev Guide justifying my explanation:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/debugging/debugging-devtools.html
Immediately destroy activities
Tells the system to destroy an activity as soon as it is stopped (as if Android had to reclaim memory). This is very useful for testing the onSaveInstanceState(Bundle) / onCreate(android.os.Bundle) code path, which would otherwise be difficult to force. Choosing this option will probably reveal a number of problems in your application due to not saving state. For more information about saving an activity's state, see the Activities document.
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(and yes, they used to call it "Immediately destroy activities")

Thanks. I turned it off. Did notice some bugs while on. I just wish with 1GB of RAM the launcher wouldnt have to reload. Hopefully things get better. Might just be my apps but it happens quite often when leaving the browser.
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mobilehavoc said:
Thanks. I turned it off. Did notice some bugs while on. I just wish with 1GB of RAM the launcher wouldnt have to reload. Hopefully things get better. Might just be my apps but it happens quite often when leaving the browser.
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weird.. how many widgets do you have on your launcher? the more widgets you have, the slower the launcher is.
Have you tried another launcher? The stock launcher has never been known for being fast and efficient, although I haven't had any issues with it (whereas I'm a LauncherPro fan on my other devices).

kwazi said:
weird.. how many widgets do you have on your launcher? the more widgets you have, the slower the launcher is.
Have you tried another launcher? The stock launcher has never been known for being fast and efficient, although I haven't had any issues with it (whereas I'm a LauncherPro fan on my other devices).
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I have quite a few Widgets but nothing too crazy I don't think. I use LauncherPro on my other devices as well but I love this new launcher so I'm going to stick it out. Like I said the most common task that causes the issue is when I'm using the web browser and then come out of it. Otherwise its been stable. I've noticed the same thing with Honeycomb on my Xoom so it might just be one of those things I have to put up with.
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i'm also noticing some redraw and occasional lag when hitting the home button.
I'm hoping that CM9's custom launcher will have an option to lock it in memory- that may increase the performance by a lot.
also when replacement launchers like go launcher start optimizing more for ICS those might be good options.

Have you tried converting your launcher into a system app? You'll need to use Titanium Backup Pro or something similar to do it for you, or simple copy the APK into your system/app folder... Really sped up my launcher!

shawnshine said:
Have you tried converting your launcher into a system app? You'll need to use Titanium Backup Pro or something similar to do it for you, or simple copy the APK into your system/app folder... Really sped up my launcher!
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Did you see the date on this thread, almost 8 months old
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95Z28 said:
Did you see the date on this thread, almost 8 months old
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... and yet people still continue to discover the thread and benefit from it.
Thanks for clarifying the meaning of "Don't keep activities"

my razr xt910 cannot be counted upon to run smoothly with all the apps simultaneously running and forcing itself to go into reboot. i then fancied an iPhone single styled system (as compared to Android multi-talks) cuz iPhone looks robust and responsive. all the killer that claimed to do the job looked more of a farce and then when i stumbled upon the destroy activity i was like OMG. srsly b4 using it I've only got just inner 100mb of ram, after using it i have a whooping 400mb ram. UI appears faster and all. regarding the relaunching of apps and battery life being used up. i think I'll start to worry about it on a later date. what say any body. ooh yes to add on, even after i deleted 40 apps on my phone it still hanged like fcuked. i guess i can reinstall them back again and not have to worry about it. btw i can't seem to root my xt910 for nuts so i can't custom ROM it along with all other fanciful mods that i hear about what others did to their phones.

(Q) Words with Friends not compatible?

After flashing one of the ICS Roms, the android market says my device isn't compatible with Words with Friends and I can't download it..any ideas?

jdefran said:
After flashing one of the ICS Roms, the android market says my device isn't compatible with Words with Friends and I can't download it..any ideas?
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Often Android market compatibility issues arise from changes made to the LCD-density property in the build.prop file.
If you've got root access, you can google your device and 'build.prop' to find the standard. You can use ES File Explorer (or a range of others) to change the property. Then if you change it back, it should work again. That's if it's a market compatibility issue.
I've got an SGS2, and when I installed earlier ICS ROMs they also had problems with Words with Friends. It would install properly, but then freeze or crash...leading to the acore process ending.
If it's a custom ROM, try posting in the forum where you DL'ed it. Either the dev will already know about it, or he won't. In either case, he should be able to tell you if there's a fix, if there's a fix-work-in-progress, if it's a samsung problem, or if you're just SOL.
If it's a stock ICS from Sammy...well, you might just be out of luck.

Like the gentleman said above. It's probably due to changing your resolution. Fortunately, I had the same problem and did a lot of research and found a fix. There's 2 ways to fix it.
1. Set it back to the default resolution, then reboot and clear the market's memory.
2. Pay for LCD Density Modder Pro (3 bucks) on android market. It can fix it so the resolution doesn't screw up the market any more. This is the route I took and it worked great.

iivisionii said:
Like the gentleman said above. It's probably due to changing your resolution. Fortunately, I had the same problem and did a lot of research and found a fix. There's 2 ways to fix it.
1. Set it back to the default resolution, then reboot and clear the market's memory.
2. Pay for LCD Density Modder Pro (3 bucks) on android market. It can fix it so the resolution doesn't screw up the market any more. This is the route I took and it worked great.
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All LDMP does is have you download and install a modded market, right?
(Not knocking the app, just asking)
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sideload the apk??
or another trick ive read recently is to use the browser and find the app on the web market, click install, select the browser on the pop-up, sign into your account, select browser again on pop-up, click the back button once and that time select market not browser....hope u can follow all that and that it works??

LBE Security

I tried sideloading this app from an apk on my optimus v. It installed and opened fine but then it started shutting off my screen and it became unresponsive. Had to reflash JR5 to fix it. Just a heads up, do not install it.
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lulz

fleshdeep said:
I tried sideloading this app from an apk on my optimus v. It installed and opened fine but then it started shutting off my screen and it became unresponsive. Had to reflash JR5 to fix it. Just a heads up, do not install it.
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Development died on that app a while back .. wonder if the privacy was actually private ??

That would be a bummer if it's dead - actually worked very good on my photon 2.3.4/5 versions - especially in customizing app specific permissions / overall surprised to see what's really going on albeit the listed, and at often times - vague permissions listed on the play store.
As said, it's [LBE] does not work for jellybean / wish there was a simply comparable app that will run just like this on stock/root only builds - pdroid is all I hear of as an alternative, but it requires a few steps/patch - not even sure if it works better and optimized for N7.
Having a permissions manager goes a long way - even if you look at things closely from legitimate market sources - it is only getting worse. I'm being far from naive here Although LBE's origins were questionable and skepticism grew, enough people had checked it out to their best ability; in concern to why the app itself needed data connection, and what (if anything serious) was being sent. Haven't seen anything comparable to its finite permissions control upon installing anything. The N7 still needs something for sure...,
What else is out there?

Here is another thread for lbe 4 with english translaten

sirscrubsalot said:
That would be a bummer if it's dead - actually worked very good on my photon 2.3.4/5 versions - especially in customizing app specific permissions / overall surprised to see what's really going on albeit the listed, and at often times - vague permissions listed on the play store.
As said, it's [LBE] does not work for jellybean / wish there was a simply comparable app that will run just like this on stock/root only builds - pdroid is all I hear of as an alternative, but it requires a few steps/patch - not even sure if it works better and optimized for N7.
Having a permissions manager goes a long way - even if you look at things closely from legitimate market sources - it is only getting worse. I'm being far from naive here Although LBE's origins were questionable and skepticism grew, enough people had checked it out to their best ability; in concern to why the app itself needed data connection, and what (if anything serious) was being sent. Haven't seen anything comparable to its finite permissions control upon installing anything. The N7 still needs something for sure...,
What else is out there?
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Well - a friendly bump to an imprtant topic... this already got buried fast amidst the many posts... seems that somebody has to do it. Seriously should not be overlooked

defim said:
Here is another thread for lbe 4 with english translaten
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this is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422479

What about appguard?
its what I use to manage permissions on an app.
http://www.backes-srt.de/produkte/srt-appguard/
Its in German but just select
"Download der appguard.apk"

Apps that can be safely Frozen or Removed

Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
Frozen/Removed
Cell Broadcast
E-Mail
Documents
File Manager
Internet/Stock Browser
LG Health
LG Search Widget Provider
LG Setup Wizard
McAfee Security
Messaging (stock)
Music
Video
Video Trim
Weather
Weather Theme
Weather Platform
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users

557953 said:
Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users
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I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.

Lennyuk said:
I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.
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Understood, you are most likely correct. Google Apps removed from list

If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks

Get my G3 later today. Thanks for the list! I'm completely new to Android, so how do I remove bloat ware?

you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software

walkerx said:
you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software
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I didn't find the apk by myself, but root uninstaller found somehow

Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?

alphamini said:
Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?
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They do different things. Freezing them is like uninstalling them - they are gone and won't work at all but can be retrieved by unfreezing. Greenifying them just hibernates them but they work as normal.

bartito said:
If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks
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Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370

I wonder if anyone has the time, patience, and good will to compile all of these threads into one master index?
ohmegosh said:
Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370
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I've noticed that the system doesn't allow you to disable everything if you're not rooted so maybe anything you are allowed to disable is safe to disable.
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drock212 said:
Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.

Horcza said:
And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.
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Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.

drock212 said:
Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?

Horcza said:
Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?
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Correct. I have mine frozen to avoid receiving update notifications. Also this is good until you find out if the new update is rootable. If its not then its good to stick with the current software.

drock212 said:
Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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My list is almost this one of yours. Had to unfreeze some of those because it made the home screen very lagged.

Everything Google uninstalled or frozen for over 2 weeks. No problems or complaints.

thanks the development has really taken off for this great device

So I froze most of these. Will it free up memory or do I have to delete them? Kinda scared to delete them. I have nandroid backup, just hate to possibly have to restore when the phone is running good.

Cant use background apps :/

Hello My fire phone doesn't run some apps in the background except when I am running those apps when I close them they stop running any help please ?? Some apps like true caller and notification notifier

Same here. IMO only Amazon can help us if they allow 3party apps to run in background
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chalx said:
Same here. IMO only Amazon can help us if they allow 3party apps to run in background
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I hope any one could help us fix it.

I cant get some amazon apps to work in the background lol - Clock is a great example. Unless i keep it running in the background my alarm will not go off in the morning!!

Perhaps this is related to minfree settings? Does the fire kill empty apps off too eagerly? A bit like the original moto g did? Edit: OK I checked. The fire has pretty standard minfree values for a 2gb device. Must be something else going on. You could try an xposed mod called app settings or app called memory locker on play store. Both require a rooted device.

ratbags said:
Perhaps this is related to minfree settings? Does the fire kill empty apps off too eagerly? A bit like the original moto g did? Edit: OK I checked. The fire has pretty standard minfree values for a 2gb device. Must be something else going on. You could try an xposed mod called app settings or app called memory locker on play store. Both require a rooted device.
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Tried using those 2 apps nothing changes

I was hoping that with drastic price drop, some of Android gurus will buy this phone and that we will have some AOSP roms and hacks, but nothing happened? IDK, this situation with services look like intentional block. Its ridiculous that apps from their store can't have 100%functionality. I can understand if they block sodeloaded apps, but this current situation is ridiculous.
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