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I thought SGX540 that's superior than iphone4 would run new games without any lags but for new games such as 9mm and let's golf 3 i've face many stutter on those games. I'd like to ask others that you have problem like me or not ? or maybe next time i'd go back to ios or waiting ice cream sandwich. Those games are smooth in iphone4 but not in galaxy s that has superior GPU.
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
Yeah, sgx540 is better than the 535 use in iphone 4, but it's all about drivers and optimisations. And we can't deny that Apple is doing a wonderfull job with iOS.
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
Simplicitiy is very good!
alwo1303 said:
Simplicitiy is very good!
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how many ram does system take with that rom?
For games playing, 2.2.1(JSD) is a Must!
titooo7 said:
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
_breez_ said:
indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
lpalvaro said:
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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No, custom roms, even so called simple and bare ones, use more ram than stock roms. I recommend ZSJPK 2.2.1, which has about 180mb of ram on boot, and an average of 120-140mb or ram after two days' usage.
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Then you do it without the script. What's the problem here? I have over 2,000 games on my phone. And no, that wasn't a typo. None of them lag.
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
bigmem kernel may help? its what i use
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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I've rolled back to froyo and now without apps in the background i0ve about 140mb of ram used, and now 9mm goes smooth. I'm not moving from froyo any more.
Also, now the battery lasts in 6 hours of screen usage, and with jvt only 4 hours
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
leroys said:
Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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Are they though? When I help someone out, I tell them correct information. If I don't know the correct information, I don't tell them anything. Why? Because incorrect information is worse than not helping at all. Few people in this thread have given remotely acceptable advice. No one needs to do a 3-step process, including rebooting your phone, just to play games; likewise, no one needs to downgrade to Froyo in order to game either.
I have Let's Golf! 3D installed currently, but I don't have the most recent revision of 9MM—although I have played it in the past. I have my phone's CPU and GPU overclocked, like I'm sure many of us do here, and I can play both without noticeable lag. I didn't have to reboot my phone to play them. I didn't have to uninstall apps to play them. I didn't have to flash an entirely new ROM to play them. And I certainly didn't need to stand on one leg with the phone above my head to play them.
Bad advice is just bad.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
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I posted what helped reducing lag in 9mm on my phone.
if you don't need the help i posted, that's too ****ing bad. the fact this topic was started shows people are facing the same problem with lack of usable ram memory for 9mm.
looks like you have some sort of magic phone with unlimited amounts of ram memory that never lags
the reason why i told him to reboot his phone is because ram usage is much less in most cases, right after booting up.
and btw, next time do some more effort instead of posting one line if my information is not correct
when i play this game, it just come into intro n go out to home screen...
i know if it's RAM issue, cause i have only 125 mb left ram, can you give advice to get more RAM?,
i used supercharger v6, it's make my xplay smooth, but my ram is not enough to play that game, and i don't want to unistall some aplication, give me some advice, please....
http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card/
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mathacer said:
when i play this game, it just come into intro n go out to home screen...
i know if it's RAM issue, cause i have only 125 mb left ram, can you give advice to get more RAM?,
i used supercharger v6, it's make my xplay smooth, but my ram is not enough to play that game, and i don't want to unistall some aplication, give me some advice, please....
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Why only 125MB left, what all apps are you running, I am running Stock kernel w/o any RAM tweaks and I generally have about 150 - 175Megs of Free RAM.
With this the Game runs pretty smooth and have seen no issues so far, just check the avail memory before starting game in Settings and stop some apps which u don't need and then run the game.
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Maddy
Root your phone then install titanium backup or systemCleanUp from maarket and delete widgets and system apps that you don't use
OR
Try this app Ram Managerand choose HARD GAMING and apply it then run NFS (needs root)
i had that problem to try to reinstall
greets,
Nickholtus
m2maddy said:
Why only 125MB left, what all apps are you running, I am running Stock kernel w/o any RAM tweaks and I generally have about 150 - 175Megs of Free RAM.
With this the Game runs pretty smooth and have seen no issues so far, just check the avail memory before starting game in Settings and stop some apps which u don't need and then run the game.
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Xperia-Play said:
Root your phone then install titanium backup or systemCleanUp from maarket and delete widgets and system apps that you don't use
OR
Try this app Ram Managerand choose HARD GAMING and apply it then run NFS (needs root)
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ICXPlay said:
i had that problem to try to reinstall
greets,
Nickholtus
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I use stock launcher, some widgets in 3 home screen includes timescape widget, pictures widget, music, n some shortcut, aplication in background: kaspersky mobile, call recorder, equalizer, n task killer n fb inside xperia...
i try to instal launcher pro n make it default launcher, i get 200 Mb free Ram, but still can't play this game ...
try to reinstal .apk n redownload data, but no clues, still can't play, wtf...
any advice again?
Hello to everyone, i have installed a custom rom for my Xperia Play with Locked Bootloader, the Custom Rom is NXT 1.3 and its performance in games was excellent newly installed, but when i started to install my apps or restore my apps the performance felt. So i thought that was ocurred cause was filling up the internal memory, so I put most of the applications on the SD card and some go to the ROM, but the performance doesn't improve as well, i read and a i have try different things like install Ram Manager Pro to free more RAM in games, to Use Task killer for Tasks in Ejecution and i dont see an considerable change in its performance. So Can i do for play more smooth?
The another thing is the NXT 1.3 have Busybox and support for scripts Init.d but i try to use an option for swap but maybe my stock kernel dont support it and another option for max size aplication's data in Ram Manager Pro ask me for busybox as if i didnt installed it, and i don't know why.
Thank yo
PD: Sorry for my poor English cause my native language is Spanish. XD
you need to overclock your rom.
here is the link for download No-frills CPU Control (i use this one): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiaXQuc2luZW8uYW5kcm9pZC5ub0ZyaWxsc0NQVSJd
After download that overclock it to: Max - 1,709 Ghz | Min - 249 Mhz | Governor - smartassV2 | I/Oscheduler - sio
Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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olokos said:
Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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i use doomlord kernel.
A Question
But if i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel i cant to overclock cause i cant change kernel. is there another option for improve the game experience with the NXT 1.3 Rom or another???
I know this might not help but could you tell me how good heavy 3d gaming was when you first installed the ROM. Did you play games like GTA:VC/GTA 3/Modern Combat 3/4 / Batman Dark Knight Rises etc without NO LAG or with minimal lag? Im on dixperia 2 and out of the 3 ROMs ive been on, its provided me with the good performance although it does slightly lag when doing heavy 3d gaming...
Nxt Light 1.3
I was experiencing the same issue. I am using the light version of the custom ROM, and it was blazing fast upon installation. Now that all of my games are installed, it is slightly slower than it was before, not very noticable though. If it helps, before playing a game, I use Es Task Manager to clear up about 200mb of memory so more is available for the games. My bootloader is locked as well. I wish there was a stable ICS on the Xperia Play. The ICS user interface, in my opinion, is much smoother than gingerbread.
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
Regards,
Sdojoin
lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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My phone using NXT 1.3 has 204-215Mb free almost the times.
lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.
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Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
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Sdojoin
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Thank you man, but i have another question if i have Ram Manager Pro running for "Harder Gamming" it is going a trouble with the NXT rom? cause that to free RAM too but i have lag too. The Task killer i used only for free ram before i play, or maybe can you tell me how can i do for boost my gamming experience on NXT rom in my XP with locked bootloader. Thank you people for your support!
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Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.
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Thank you, can you tell me what apps can i use for improve the gamming experience in XP or maybe boost the XP with NXT rom cause i have almost 20 apps and i have 100 mb free on Internal Memory, the Rom Memory with 35 Mb free, but the RAM fill up fast and i only use the defalult launcher of NXT Rom with Static Theme and a few widgets like Timescape, Photos/Videos, Searchbox and Music. But i feel the rom less smooth than newlsy installed, Thank you for answering!!!
Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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Another question my friend what app can i used for cache/dalvik cache (For no reboot all time XD) and i can't use swapping on Stock Kernel? cause i cant in my XP with NXT ROM with locked bootloader. Thank you!!!
U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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Sdojoin
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U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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I've tried to install a swapper but when i verify if it is running on memory use the swap space are in 0 like if i didnt install the swapper or if it isn't running, what can i do? The another question is this:
I found a tweaks collection and i want to try that but i dont know if that could generate conflict with the tweaks of the NXT ROM have with it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456777
Somebody said games are better installed in internal memory than SD Card, that is right? by the way what configuration or tweaks or apps you used for games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 or Street Fighter IV? Thank you for answering!!!!
Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.
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Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.
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Then your stuck with your limited "options."
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Then your stuck with your limited "options."
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So nothing can i do? :S. And if i put apps in Rom Memory (Rom's Space) will generate lag or no? Cause i thought in the posibility to move the apps in SD Car and Rom Space for more space on internal memory....
I use CM10 rc5 and my problem is I have like 30-40mb free ram all the time.
I only run weather and email widgets, no antivirus, no ram optimizer. I also have trouble playing games like Temple Run, it keeps lagging.
Is there anything I can do about it?
Any program to log memory consumption of background apps also?
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I use CM10 rc5 and my problem is I have like 30-40mb free ram all the time.
I only run weather and email widgets, no antivirus, no ram optimizer. I also have trouble playing games like Temple Run, it keeps lagging.
Is there anything I can do about it?
Any program to log memory consumption of background apps also?
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There are many ways actualy.
Depends on what you need.
You can instal those bigmem kernels, like yoons or what was it called, it has 395mb ram, and the camera can still take pics.
Or u can instale the 423mb version, which hasnt got the camera working, but still, 423mb free.
And tick in the developer settings, then limit to 1 background process.
THat should make more RAM, or u can even tick the close the programm after u end using it.
devoker said:
I use CM10 rc5 and my problem is I have like 30-40mb free ram all the time.
I only run weather and email widgets, no antivirus, no ram optimizer. I also have trouble playing games like Temple Run, it keeps lagging.
Is there anything I can do about it?
Any program to log memory consumption of background apps also?
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Search V6 Supercharger script and you will have a incredible memory script... i'm always with more than 100Mb of free ram...
devoker said:
I use CM10 rc5 and my problem is I have like 30-40mb free ram all the time.
I only run weather and email widgets, no antivirus, no ram optimizer. I also have trouble playing games like Temple Run, it keeps lagging.
Is there anything I can do about it?
Any program to log memory consumption of background apps also?
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Use hadi kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053266
Plus use auto memory killer on market
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with a task manager. likes fast reboot or advance task manager.
Hey all!
Somewhat new to the custom ROM and kernel scene. I'm currently running Lupus Stock GB/ICS Kernel v3, 480p and Krisdee's Hybrid ROM v1.0. My phone runs smoothly, even better than it did with the stock ROM.
However, I noticed if I leave the phone on overnight while charging, in the morning the RAM will almost be completely used up, causing several processes to close and try and re-open itself. I only found out what was going on when apps I tried to open end up closing themselves after a few seconds.
I can clear up the RAM by restarting the phone, but I'm actually not used to having to turn it off at all. Would there be a way to have it use better memory management and keep it at ~200 MB free while idling?
Your ram problem may be the cause of an application or widget having memory leaks. Try removing/uninstallng any useless applications and widgets that you may have constantly running in the background. Remove them one by one to see if you could find the application causing the problem.
Live wallpapers also tend to take up ram, so if possible disable them. You could also use a launcher which utilizes less ram such as "lightning launcher" or "zeam launcher".
NXT light rom is also a good candidate for more better ram.
And take a look at Esus task manager. Very useful in freeing up ram either manually or automatically.
This is normal in linux
I think adrenalin ( not the one in xplay xda) tweak can solve this
Try rebooting the phone
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Your ram problem may be the cause of an application or widget having memory leaks. Try removing/uninstallng any useless applications and widgets that you may have constantly running in the background. Remove them one by one to see if you could find the application causing the problem.
Live wallpapers also tend to take up ram, so if possible disable them. You could also use a launcher which utilizes less ram such as "lightning launcher" or "zeam launcher".
NXT light rom is also a good candidate for more better ram.
And take a look at Esus task manager. Very useful in freeing up ram either manually or automatically.
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It's a fairly fresh build, the only apps I have extra are Skype, Candy Crush Saga, ES File Explorer and Freedom. Skype normally isn't running.
pedyvirus said:
This is normal in linux
I think adrenalin ( not the one in xplay xda) tweak can solve this
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I'll take a look at that.
w4r3zh4ck said:
Try rebooting the phone
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This is my current solution, however, it tends to happen again as time goes on and I essentially need to reboot at least once a day.
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It's a fairly fresh build, the only apps I have extra are Skype, Candy Crush Saga, ES File Explorer and Freedom. Skype normally isn't running.
I'll take a look at that.
This is my current solution, however, it tends to happen again as time goes on and I essentially need to reboot at least once a day.
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Well right now the best thing i could advise you to do is download an application that shows or records background process. The default app for showing processes on the XP sucks. It doesn't show all processes that are running. Chances are you may have thought that you closed off skype, but it still runs in the background. You really show take a look at a task manager like "Esus Task Manager" to determine what is eating your ram.