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Galaxy Nexus no longer being released on the 9th in the US?

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.

if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting

I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true

I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here

psufan5 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.

this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible

Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.

Luxferro said:
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest

I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

randypurcz said:
Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.

RVDigital said:
They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.

Luxferro said:
Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?

Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?

criDikal said:
anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010

Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.

eallan said:
Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.

RVDigital said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.

Is the HARDWARE of Galaxy Nexus bugless?

Own a Nexus S. Thinking about upgrade to GN.
In Hong Kong, we got a message that Samsung has stopped the production of GN. Shops are offering final sales at HK$3700 / US$474.
It is a good price to buy. But it is very strange to see that Samsung has stopped the production so early, 5 months after release. GN was just released in November.
Is it possible that GN's hardware is buggy and Google needs to issue a new version?
I tried to look for answers in forums. But no luck. Pls give me some hints. thank you!
Any software bugs don't worry me. I am using CM9. I believe in the power of open source community.

So far, I've been more than happy with my GNex.
I bought mine on release day.
Only issues so far have been software related so I flashed AOKP and have never looked back.

Mixmaster333 said:
So far, I've been more than happy with my GNex.
I bought mine on release day.
Only issues so far have been software related so I flashed AOKP and have never looked back.
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Do you see any screen "burn"?

There are no bugs, the global market version is just dropping everywhere. Its a steal I think. Its a low volume model and they're just trying to sell them.
There are price threads right in this forum talking about it.

Only issues I've had so far have been software-related and nothing related to hardware.

No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.

martonikaj said:
No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.
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Does the life cycle of a smart phone become much shorter now? released less than half a year, then stop production.

martonikaj said:
No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.
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When the GN in stock all sold, there will be no Google developer phone available for sale. Is it strange?

colocynth said:
When the GN in stock all sold, there will be no Google developer phone available for sale. Is it strange?
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Carriers will not continue to sell devices if:
1. The contract they have with the OEM does not require it.
And
2. Sales are not doing well. They will not continue to buy devices if they are not selling.
Hardware does not have to be the reason.

adrynalyne said:
Carriers will not continue to sell devices if:
1. The contract they have with the OEM does not require it.
And
2. Sales are not doing well. They will not continue to buy devices if they are not selling.
Hardware does not have to be the reason.
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I think Google should keep at least one developer phone available in the market.
Anyway, after reading you guys' comments, I have decided to buy one. thx for the info!
Hope I can get one since it was out of stock for the last week. GN is so hot in HK.

colocynth said:
I think Google should keep at least one developer phone available in the market.
Anyway, after reading you guys' comments, I have decided to buy one. thx for the info!
Hope I can get one since it was out of stock for the last week. GN is so hot in HK.
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Google doesn't sell the device directly.
They're going to have another Nexus in 6 months anyways.

martonikaj said:
Google doesn't sell the device directly.
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What about the google shops?

This device is the best selling nexus yet.... period!
There is not a major hardware defect and 6 months has been the shelf life standard for the last year or so. Verizon has sold over a million nexuses and sprint just did this...
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...print-sells-out-pre-orders-after-only-3-days/
People in this forum are the most uneducated hard headed bunch I have ever met. Seriously you all need to learn how to read before guessing things ..... smh
#imbussels

If I may contribute:
A few weeks (maybe 6 or 7) after I got the GN, there was a problem with the microUSB connection. It would not charge if it was on, either from a USB port or the wall charger.
To charge it, I had to turn it off or pull the battery several times and connect it while it was still off. Even then, I had to try several times until it finally did charge.
After almost two weeks of that, everything went normal again. To this day, I have no idea whether it was hardware or software related.
Here's a thread with people having a similar issue.

mark manning said:
This device is the best selling nexus yet.... period!
There is not a major hardware defect and 6 months has been the shelf life standard for the last year or so. Verizon has sold over a million nexuses and sprint just did this...
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...print-sells-out-pre-orders-after-only-3-days/
People in this forum are the most uneducated hard headed bunch I have ever met. Seriously you all need to learn how to read before guessing things ..... smh
#imbussels
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You mean #imbeciles?
Anyway, Verizon and Sprint's sales does not reflect what is (or is not) happening in China.

The phone is still produced in Brazil as "Galaxy X" (as Nexus brand is already used by another company that did not allow Samsung / Google to use it to promote the phone), and recently has been introduced to Sprint users, so, my guess is that either it won't be produced/sold in your country or someone is misinformed...

adrynalyne said:
You mean #imbeciles?
Anyway, Verizon and Sprint's sales does not reflect what is (or is not) happening in China.
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Ha! Ya I was a lil drunk writing that lmao
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To buy or not to buy?

Hello guys, GSM Galaxy Nexus is probably going to be my new phone these days.
Could somebody tell me what are the advantages and disadvantages of this phone?
PS I know this depends, but I ask everyone individually.

buy 9250 is good......i use 9100 me865 su640 9250,gn is best.......if u have more money,u can wait lg nexus or buy note2 now.....
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not to be rude but seriously this thread has been beaten to death...
use the search function and you will find hundreds of threads giving you the answers you seek

leajian said:
Hello guys, GSM Galaxy Nexus is probably going to be my new phone these days.
Could somebody tell me what are the advantages and disadvantages of this phone?
PS I know this depends, but I ask everyone individually.
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No, I won't buy it right now. Since the last android 4.1.2 (JB) many users (including me) are experiencing casual and frequent reboots (most likely due to the proximity sensor) and neither Google or Samsung are providing decent support or answers for this major issue (it happens very frequently during calls).
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37485
So delay the purchase or chose another phone; take in consideration a Galaxy 3 if you can afford it, but check in advance if there are outstanding major problems, or a Galaxy 2 that you can get for a cheap price, or an HTC.
You have been warned, buy it a t your risk because Samsung/Google support sucks.

Funny post.
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I'd buy one. Mainly for the fact - 1. If the next nexus is the rumored LG one - It won't have a super amoled screen PLUS the GN looks better. 2 - Software updates would still be awesome for the nexus in spite of another one coming out. 3 - Amazingly cheap.
I broke my nexus on my birthday 2 days back and I'm thinking of buying another one. I had an option to choose between a Nexus, an S3, a note 2 and an iFag 5. I've used them all (Except the iFag) - And trust me, the feel of the GNex can never be beaten.

one2one69 said:
No, I won't buy it right now. Since the last android 4.1.2 (JB) many users (including me) are experiencing casual and frequent reboots (most likely due to the proximity sensor) and neither Google or Samsung are providing decent support or answers for this major issue (it happens very frequently during calls).
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37485
So delay the purchase or chose another phone; take in consideration a Galaxy 3 if you can afford it, but check in advance if there are outstanding major problems, or a Galaxy 2 that you can get for a cheap price, or an HTC.
You have been warned, buy it a t your risk because Samsung/Google support sucks.
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Faceplam>.<
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one2one69 said:
No, I won't buy it right now. Since the last android 4.1.2 (JB) many users (including me) are experiencing casual and frequent reboots (most likely due to the proximity sensor) and neither Google or Samsung are providing decent support or answers for this major issue (it happens very frequently during calls).
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37485
So delay the purchase or chose another phone; take in consideration a Galaxy 3 if you can afford it, but check in advance if there are outstanding major problems, or a Galaxy 2 that you can get for a cheap price, or an HTC.
You have been warned, buy it a t your risk because Samsung/Google support sucks.
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this is NOT a common issue... Why no threads on here about it?

Well. I just purchased my gnexus 2 days ago....I ****ing love it!!! Had an s2 before. Its easy to root and the ROMs available are quality. Loving jellybean and don't let the 5mp camera cool you its really not bad at all.
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one2one69 said:
No, I won't buy it right now. Since the last android 4.1.2 (JB) many users (including me) are experiencing casual and frequent reboots (most likely due to the proximity sensor) and neither Google or Samsung are providing decent support or answers for this major issue (it happens very frequently during calls).
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37485
So delay the purchase or chose another phone; take in consideration a Galaxy 3 if you can afford it, but check in advance if there are outstanding major problems, or a Galaxy 2 that you can get for a cheap price, or an HTC.
You have been warned, buy it a t your risk because Samsung/Google support sucks.
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wow, basically anything you say at this point has no merit. You come to the nexus forum to talk bad about the nexus. You say 'many users' but I would like to see this data. You know this might be a shock to you but sometimes phones are faulty when they ship out and you likely have one of such phones. Contact support and get it replaced. I can only relate my experience, I haven't had a random reboot on my phone since I bought it in july. Also your speculations for the reboot issue is pretty random stabs in the dark, or just roll back to 4.1.1 instead of flashing 4.1.2 just because it's new.
Also notice every phone you list you talk bad about in your signature, im willing to bet its the hand that is holding your phones lol

Personally, the thing that's keeping me from jumping to the next phone is vast array of dev support. There's so many ROMs, kernels, mods (like PGM, trickster) to tweak and customize your phone with. Sure, the hardware is becoming quickly lackluster but in the end it should be the user experience (which can be highly tailored to your liking) that counts.
Easy to root and install roms, first in line for android upgrades for the time being and has adequate hardware. Not bad if you can get it for cheap. :good:

Buy it man, it still worth it, just bought it yesterday and hold it for 8hours no single lag so far, and you never found not working list on any rom
No reboot or anything, battery life still acceptable imo.
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Wait until that ugly LG Nexus comes out then buy the GNex as the price will probably drop.

Darunion said:
wow, basically anything you say at this point has no merit. You come to the nexus forum to talk bad about the nexus. You say 'many users' but I would like to see this data. You know this might be a shock to you but sometimes phones are faulty when they ship out and you likely have one of such phones. Contact support and get it replaced. I can only relate my experience, I haven't had a random reboot on my phone since I bought it in july. Also your speculations for the reboot issue is pretty random stabs in the dark, or just roll back to 4.1.1 instead of flashing 4.1.2 just because it's new.
Also notice every phone you list you talk bad about in your signature, im willing to bet its the hand that is holding your phones lol
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My comment has merit and provides, to the guy asking for support in taking a decision, a useful information. Since there are thousands of users with this outstanding major problem, I gave a suggestion based of facts. I do not speculate, me as well as other thousands users have come to this conclusion; we wouldn't guess if only Samsung or Google had provided an answer. BTW I already provided the info regarding this issue.
If you are happy with this phone, and you do not suffer this outstanding major issue, just provide a "BUY" opinion, instead of bashing others, and respect other community members.
Regarding my phones I've been a happy owner of the HD2, sadly the digitalizer broke for the 3rd time, the only reason to buy a Nexus.
The OMNIA is a crap phone ...yet another Samsung...
I'm not, luckily, one of those "fanatic" that feels enthusiastic about a phone only because they have spent some bucks on it. If something sucks, it sucks. So far is "NO BUY".
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crixley said:
this is NOT a common issue... Why no threads on here about it?
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This issue seems to affect s significant percentage of recent phones. If you look at the link provided you'll see that the thread has been opened just recently and most likely this is the reason why there is no post here.
The other reason is that is someone should ever dare to discuss it here, blaming this marvelous piece of technology, he would be banned by Nexus fanatics, instead of trying to figure out a solution

GSM Nexus:
Pros:
- gets updates immediately and supported twice as long as carrier Android phones
- not bloated
- nice development
- can use on Tmo or Att
- decent price
- carrier unlocked
- good mid-range phone
- easy to root
- can use with a pre-paid sim to save a lot of money over carriers
Cons:
- old hardware doesn't run the latest version of Android lag free IMO, but does an OK job. Even overclocked it stutters at times.
- screen has good blacks but is yellow and grainy, will have to adjust it via root
- one of the worst cameras I have ever had on a smartphone
- wifi signal is garbage
- speaker is garbage

Sure, it has quite a bad speaker, dancing battery cover, for some not-so-good screen,... But in my opinion, it's the only phone worth buying. I have it for almost a year now, and I didn't have a single problem, it works like a Swiss clock. This phone is pure magic. Just buy it.
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Joplisan said:
Sure, it has quite a bad speaker, dancing battery cover, for some not-so-good screen,... But in my opinion, it's the only phone worth buying. I have it for almost a year now, and I didn't have a single problem, it works like a Swiss clock. This phone is pure magic. Just buy it.
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I don't think it has a bad speaker at all, using some apps such as Volume+ fixes it.
Battery cover: never had a problem at all.
Screen: no problems, using a kernel with color changer support makes it even more amazing.

I know that the things I've mentioned above are fixable one way or another but it's fair to point them out. Like I said, I wouldn't buy any other phone. But still, build quality is quite poor, tbh. And that's the only thing that can't be fixed by a simple app or kernel.
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In a bit of a dilemma between the GNex and the N4

Right now, I have an Xperia X8. I've had this phone for over a year, and it's my first smartphone ever. During this year, I've flashed a lot so I know the basics around that stuff. And that's why I fell in love with Nexus phones. No possibilities of bricking your phone with just simply unlocking your bootloader (which I've done with my X8 once) and stuff like that.
Problem is, I currently live in Macedonia. Here, the new GNex costs 300 euros with a one year warranty. There's still no Nexus 4 here, but my friend's dad is in the US right now, and he may be able to buy one for me, but he'll be back here in about 2 months. And I can get the GNex in less than a week here. I already have the money as well. If he buys the Nexus 4 for me from the US, it'll cost about 300-320 euros. So the price is pretty much the same.
Now here's the problem: I don't know if I should wait for the Nexus 4, or just buy the GNex. I've been really impatient about buying a new phone. My brother bought a GNex a couple of weeks ago, and it's really good, especially for my standards.
The Nexus 4 is basically a performance upgrade, but mostly in heavy gaming. And I'm not really a heavy gamer. I only play small games like Temple Run and stuff like that, and not so frequently. And those run very smoothly in my brother's GNex. Even NFS:MW runs smoothly, and it's a heavy game.
What I don't like about the N4 though, is the fact that it's completely made of glass and there's a big chance I can break it. Plus, if I buy it from the US, the charger won't be compatible here. And I'm afraid that if I use some other one, it may not be good for the phone's battery. But that's just a theory of mine, not sure if it's actually true. And I've read that many people have had to exchange their original shipments because of some hardware factory bugs. And there's no possible way I can exchange mine.
Your input would be greatly appreciated. I really have no idea what to do. I'm leaning more towards the GNex though.
TLDR: Have to wait 2 months for Nexus 4, and less than a week for a new GNex. Same price here. Which one should I buy?
I also created this thread in the Nexus 4 Q&A section, but I want to hear your opinion as well. If this is against the forum rules, please feel free to remove it.

get rhe Gnex if you dont mind changing phone in around 1.5 years later .. if i were you i would get the N4 as it would last me at least 2 ears with google updates and around +1 more year from xda dev updates ~ hoped i helped ><

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get rhe Gnex if you dont mind changing phone in around 1.5 years later .. if i were you i would get the N4 as it would last me at least 2 ears with google updates and around +1 more year from xda dev updates ~ hoped i helped ><
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I'm sure I'll be able to change my phone 1.5 years later. And I'm pretty sure Google will keep updating the GNex as it's definitely a phone that can handle newer android versions. If not, like you said, XDA dev updates will help me out. But I'm really afraid of getting the N4 because of the great distance between Macedonia and the USA. What if it came with some manufacturer bugs? I'd die then. Like I said, the fake cheap charger I'd get here might make the battery worse, and the phone itself can be broken really easily :crying:

the gnex is great but you are saying that the price is same for both so i would say get the n4...

I love my g'nex, but I'd say n4. Is always a good idea to get the newest most powerful when your buying a new electronic, especially for the same price. As for hardware defects, the g'nex had all kind of hardware defect reports when it came out also. You have to keep in mind the users with problems are the ones complaining, if you don't have problems you don't say anything making defects look worse than they are.
Of course if you simply want an update now instead of in 2 months the g'nex is still an awesome device.
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Okay guys, thanks a lot for your replies. I guess I'm gonna have to talk to my dad's friend about the N4.

I currently own the GN, but tomorrow by N4 should be arriving... so probably tomorrow I would be able to give you a better comparison. I would definitely wait the extra couple of months and get the N4... it's a year newer and has way better specs. My GN doesn't feel as snappy with 4.2 as it did with 4.1.2 (unless it's all in my head). I think 4.2 is a tiny bit more bloated... and that is probably the reason why they dropped the support for Nexus S.
As for charger compatibility... don't all android phones use microUSB chargers now? I use my HTC Desire and GN chargers on my my GN interchangably... and sometimes borrow chargers from Blackberry users at work. To be sure, you could check the specs on the charger to make sure they match (they're usually written on the plug).

I do love my GNex, its a really good phone and im sure that i will stay with it for more time. I think N4 doesnt justify an update, if you already have a GNex, but since its not your case I would recommend the N4 for very simple reasons... GNex still a top device and for sure it can handle the job for quite some time, but N4 is newer and has better specs. Unless the price difference between them is enormous, like it is here in Brazil.
Hope it helped, cheers.

Barely any G7 activity

For a new, high end phone covering all carriers (in the US at least) and service in Europe and Korea, I am surprised how little activity there is here. I expected discussions in accessories and Q&A at least.
To me this does not bode well for the phone and/or XDA.

OnceAMatrixMan said:
For a new, high end phone covering all carriers (in the US at least) and service in Europe and Korea, I am surprised how little activity there is here. I expected discussions in accessories and Q&A at least.
To me this does not bode well for the phone and/or XDA.
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things have changed in the last year or two. flagships get less attention nowadays. companies have started locking down bootloaders and raising prices. it takes longer for new flagships to get into the hands of consumers. the g7 will get the attention it deserves in time, but rooting and ROM discussion is probably going to be mostly for the mid-range and low-end devices from now on. there just isn't much need to root and mod a device like the g7. it's already really fast, feature-packed and bug free (at least since my update to 10g)

Honestly I'd get the OP6 over the G7 it's cheaper and has root nuff said.

My phone died so I had to get something quick and G7 was on sale - kinda. No complaints so far, but I hear ya - if the Pixel3 was out...

I understand in that situation and would probably do the same. Although at this point I'm waiting to see what the V40 is going to be like. I really liked my v20 but got the Note 8 because of it having root.

It was the V10 that died on me. Best phone IMO, and thought I'd run it for another 5 years.
Still surprised not more discussion on cases and screen protectors. Reminds me of the early days of the V10 when you could hear crickets, and it never really picked up from there.

Well we don't need anything due to phone being great
but I got it for 420 eur, and Op6 is 550 eur. So I get 130 eur plus wireless charging, sound, .....

OnceAMatrixMan said:
For a new, high end phone covering all carriers (in the US at least) and service in Europe and Korea, I am surprised how little activity there is here. I expected discussions in accessories and Q&A at least.
To me this does not bode well for the phone and/or XDA.
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Well considering its a month old phone with US unlocked models just shipping 2 days ago, its a bit early to assume or jump to conclusions.
Also this is an english speaking forum and the bulk of LG sales will not be in English speaking countries.
For other comments from users about root, looks like we have a base magisk and weve got unlocked bootloaders on at least the OEM version. Honestly though, i really dont see a massive need to root compared to other devices.
Give it time. Enthusiasm will pick up.
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datafoo said:
Well considering its a month old phone with US unlocked models just shipping 2 days ago, its a bit early to assume or jump to conclusions.
Also this is an english speaking forum and the bulk of LG sales will not be in English speaking countries.
For other comments from users about root, looks like we have a base magisk and weve got unlocked bootloaders on at least the OEM version. Honestly though, i really dont see a massive need to root compared to other devices.
Give it time. Enthusiasm will pick up.
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I don't feel the need to root the phone either and I'm coming from the OPO so the modding game is strong in me. ?
For being the first releases of the rom I have to say that I'm pretty pleased on how the phone is behaving.
The only thing that I'm waiting is recording 4k videos at 60 fps and Android 8.1.