I'm just wondering... if I intend to keep my Incredible for a while, should I plan to replace the battery? Do these batteries wear out and if so, what's the typical lifespan?
I don't know a lot about battery but I supposed it depends on how you use it, charge it, heat/overheat, etc. My incredible is 13 months old and the battery is about the same, maybe. Just remember OEM batteries/parts is the best.
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I would agree with respect to sticking to factory/OEM batteries. I bought a second HTC extended battery when my first one seemed to be losing a charge faster than I thought it should. This was after about 14 months of hard use. However, I also bought an external charger which allows the battery to get fully charged to 100%, whereas I found that the phone was not charging it all the way up (most likely due to bogus values in the battery stats file). After rooting, installing Pete's BuglessBeast GPA19, and re-calibrating the battery I'm getting about 24-30 hours out of a single charge on both the new and the old battery...
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With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.
Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.
leona said:
Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.
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Where did you purchase that battery?
EBAY
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With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.
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The new batts werent off ebay were they and say lith polymer instead of lith ion !!
I had a similar experiences in the past with cheap batteries of ebay, actually you find many naughty sellers used to get new lables made stating slightly higher mah.... again in my experience this was naughty german sellers.
Every battery ive got that says lith polymer died after 3 months and never held a full charge, get a proper lithium ion one instead.
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Where did you purchase that battery?
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Sorry I don't know, I bought the phone 2nd hand and it came with the phone.
I've used my Galaxy Nexus for six months without using a secondary battery. At first I bought the extended battery with extended battery cover, but not only did that make my phone too 'thick', it also seemed that Galaxy Nexus is unable to know which battery is being used, so the battery life seemed incorrect when using the extended battery.
I think this has something to do with the battery info memory that the phone stores.
So I ended up buying a second battery, a replacement battery that is exactly the same as the one I originally have in my Nexus.
But since batteries are still different and are bound to perform differently, I wonder how to manage it correctly? Do I always have to drain the phone completely empty before switching batteries and charging the battery with a separate charging dock? I am worried that the phone considers performance of my battery A as the same as battery B, thus in time ending up with lesser battery life on both due to the confusion.
Are there any tips I should know? I need to use replacement batteries since at times I'm on an extended trips where I might not have the ability to charge the phone, but need to use the phone one way or another.
Thanks!
Ah..... I bought some batteries from Amazon. Cheap, like 20 bucks. They are charged, in my bag, if I run out of juice, I switch and start charging the other one. I still have a 3rd that I've never had to use. Hell I hardly use the 2nd one.
All the other stuff you mentioned, I guess I just don't care about all that. I just know they can hold a charge for quite a while. And that helps me when I need it.
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I've used my Galaxy Nexus for six months without using a secondary battery. At first I bought the extended battery with extended battery cover, but not only did that make my phone too 'thick', it also seemed that Galaxy Nexus is unable to know which battery is being used, so the battery life seemed incorrect when using the extended battery.
I think this has something to do with the battery info memory that the phone stores.
So I ended up buying a second battery, a replacement battery that is exactly the same as the one I originally have in my Nexus.
But since batteries are still different and are bound to perform differently, I wonder how to manage it correctly? Do I always have to drain the phone completely empty before switching batteries and charging the battery with a separate charging dock? I am worried that the phone considers performance of my battery A as the same as battery B, thus in time ending up with lesser battery life on both due to the confusion.
Are there any tips I should know? I need to use replacement batteries since at times I'm on an extended trips where I might not have the ability to charge the phone, but need to use the phone one way or another.
Thanks!
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These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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I usually forget to unplug my phone when I go to sleep. Any bad effects?
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daggerxXxsin said:
I usually forget to unplug my phone when I go to sleep. Any bad effects?
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Nope you can do it all the time
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These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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You CAN drain them down, as much as the phone allows you. Only deep discharge will harm/kill them.
pdxtechdoctor said:
These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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You cannot drain battery completely empty with a phone. Phone itself will not allow that to happen. Well, it is technically possible, but you need to do a lot more than just drain it until phone shuts down to make it happen.
My problem is that the phone stores information about battery. But if I use two different batteries (despite being the same type and capacity), during battery switches it will not know the battery life of the second battery and can be wrong (as it guesses it based on first battery). People usually delete batterystats file to reset this information, but that sounds pointless to do after every battery switch.
I guess I'll just discharge one battery to about 50% and then store it for just-in-case purposes.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
Just a quick link to help out, if you want more info you'll have to Google it yourself
You can use 2 different size batteries without decreasing their usable life per charge.
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I am dead impressed with my S3 I535 ever since it has installed a new battery. My first day of the new battery from Mpj was unimpressive, no better than the stock which been used years. Fortunately, after several full discharge and recharge cycles, I got 20hrs on a charge and had way heavy use on my phone. No idea why?
Really with the newer batteries it isn't necessary to do anything besides really fully charge them once you get them, the reason cycling them used to be important on phones at least was to establish a battery statistic that the phone could read off because I know I've had extended batteries not read correctly on older phones, otherwise it could just be usage, new battery = using phone more.
Bought my phone on Black Friday 2012, bought a spare battery about a year later, and now both batteries are virtually gone.
The (newer) battery has bloated significantly and is now officially retired. AFAICT it was completely original from Samsung, with NFC. The older one lets the phone go on only if it is charging, and then holds for maybe 3 hours of no or little usage.
I admit, I haven't followed the advice of keeping the battery between 20 - 80% charge, and other maintenance, so I'm willing to believe this is what was expected under the circumstances. Is it?
AFAIK there is no app that can display the true capacity of the battery. Is there by any chance a testing app that measures how long it takes to drain under a specified controlled workload, and hence find out, somewhat accurately, the capacity currently?
Now I wish to buy 2 external batteries + a external mains charger for it, and actually do some maintenance on it for its life. Is that advisable, or should I only charge a battery inside the phone?
Bump... no one?
Phone totally goes black/dies when battery is 21% down to 10%. does this just mean the battery I have is bad? What replacement battery is best? I've read Anker makes a good set with charger. Thanks.
Samsung SDI batteries are the only batteries I've known to do this. When screen goes black, that should be a shutdown. Do you plug in your charger at that time? Mine actually actually showed 0%.
It's inconvenient for a battery to shutdown unexpectedly, while showing capacity remaining. I always replace Samsung OEM batteries with another brand. I found one that I liked so l went to Amazon and bought a second plus external charger from same brand. If looking at another alternative, just search MPJ and read the reviews. The battery and wall charger were on sale last week, maybe still.
If you're considering upgrading to sealed battery in unibody phone, you should consider the care required for such a phone to get battery to last. Sealed batteries are actually very similar in capability and ratings; no leap in tech but apparent shortcoming evident in Note7 embarrassment. Fast charging produces heat and steals life from battery's endurance down the road. Studies have shown since lithium batteries have no memory that you're actually prolonging the battery by slow charging without load or minimum load and bump charging rather than cycling battery to near 0% then back to 100%. Manufacturers don't tell you that because they prefer you wear your battery down in less than a year's time and consider another phone purchase.
Maybe Samsung would be better off today if consumers were more aware of how to prolong lithium batteries?
If you want your battery to last two years, bump charge it after 25% used as much as possible; it shouldn't even matter if you bump charge it 3x per day. Avoid fast charging and heat cycles. IOW, try not to use it while charging; the cycles should be short anyway.
Or, if you prefer to abuse a removable battery like the Note 4 and care less, pay about $15 and just replace the battery every year. 500 full cycles is all these batteries are currently rated for due to increased degradation with abuse. Mini cycles allows more of those cycles without degradation but you'll still have capacity when you need it to last a long day without charging.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
Toyeboy said:
Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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Try this, if you are rooted and have recovery wipe dalvik cache and cache. Power off phone and pull battery for like 5-10min. Hold the power button (with battery out) for like 1-2min. After letting battery sit out for 5-10min reboot and see what happens. If same instances occur. Your battery is dead just purchase a new one! Anker recommended!
Toyeboy said:
Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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You're welcome.
Bump charging is partially charging before battery gets low. An example would be running the battery down 25% and charging without overcharging it.
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Had the same issue, bought a new Anker and issues resolved, the stock Samsung sucks!
I'm just glad there's a way to replace it that'll mean this phone can last a long time if I'm careful with it.
Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
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Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
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Yes the stock Samsung batteries are horrible. They don't last very long then they start misrepresenting the battery statistics to the OS so you get the shutdowns at 20 or so %. I switched to a twenty$ Anker I found on Amazon over 6 months ago and never had the issue occur again. Even thy sprint techs will tell you if you ask them outright!
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