[Q] Threaded messaging in the stock email (non-gmail) app - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Question for Galaxy Nexus/ICS users: does the stock email (not the gmail app) app FINALLY have threaded messaging?
I think most Android users can agree that while the Gmail app is great, the stock email app is pretty laughable. Since my company doesn't use google apps, I'm stuck with exchange, and the lack of threaded messaging makes it nearly unusable.
So, is there hope? Is threaded messaging finally in there?

No, but it's fairly usable apart from that... much better than the Gingerbread app.

Gah that sucks. Thanks for the answer!
Given that Gmail basically popularized threaded messaging, one has to wonder what the issue is... even iOS' mail app finally got threaded messaging!

I hate threaded messaging, tried but just can't get used to it. Fine for texts, but for proper email?
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Mnemoch said:
I hate threaded messaging, tried but just can't get used to it. Fine for texts, but for proper email?
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You may be in the minority then. I haven't found anyone prefering non-threaded email if they have ever used Gmail. I guess it depends in your usage pattern.

blunden said:
You may be in the minority then. I haven't found anyone prefering non-threaded email if they have ever used Gmail. I guess it depends in your usage pattern.
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While I love threaded gmail... I do find that it is weird when going back and forth between 2 gmail users. Sometimes the emails come in all weird, like they reply to an old email. I'm referring to the qouted text below the main body.
I've also had problems locating information when they're hidden like that. Sometimes people reply to an email, just to take about something else... makes it hard to keep organized when its all mixed up.
I get hundreds of emails a day... keep them separate please.
My online exchange 2011 does this. Painful.
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zminor said:
Given that Gmail basically popularized threaded messaging, one has to wonder what the issue is... even iOS' mail app finally got threaded messaging!
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Going to nitpick a bit...
Threaded email has been popular for a ways before Gmail (I remember it existing and being used by many in the Eudora days), BUT gmail did popularize conversations (which I believe is different from threaded emails). Personally I hate conversations in gmail (have them disabled), threaded email in Thunderbird et al I can use, but would rather not.
As for Exchange, depending on what Exchange server your work is using, you might be able to use K9 Mail:
https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/wiki/K9MailAndExchange
"K-9 uses WebDAV to communicate with Exchange. As of Exchange 2010, WebDAV is no longer supported. For this reason, K-9 is unable to work with Exchange 2010 at this time. It will be a major effort to correct this issue."

that's why it's important for anyone who buys any phone to previously check the features they really need.
i use exchange mail a lot and the best "default" client for mails comes from HTC, therefore i got the Sensation. AOSP mail (GB) sucks, Samsung's a bit better but not as good as HTC.

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Best Email App?

Hey everyone, I'm new to Android and just looking to get situated with everything.
I use Gmail for my email and I've found the stock Gmail app to be ALMOST exactly what I need. Major flaws are zooming in and out and selecting text are impossible and it really annoys me.
Basically the features I want are:
Push or IMAP, I like the delivery speed of the Gmail App
Label support, or if folders are used then the ability to Star/Flag/COPY to folders instead of just moving
Zooming out for viewing large emails
It would be nice to have a unified inbox, but not a big deal for me
I'm pretty disappointed with the Gmail app missing some of these key usability features. Is the HTC mail program better in any way? Are there any other options that work well?
Thanks.
Pretty sure the GMail app has label support. You can star and label things as is since "folders" are just labels in GMail anyways. Push for GMail is a FroYo feature, afaik. Looking forward to that instead of having an active connection for my GMail.
Zooming out would be nice but on the Evo's screen it doesn't seem like it would be really needed unless you have people e-mailing you that don't know how to press the enter key every now and then. I haven't tried zooming in/out in the HTC e-mail app but I doubt it's present there. Seems like a low priority feature, imo.
The non-GMail e-mail program is pretty good. Supports POP, IMAP and Exchange ActiveSync. Unified Inbox, no. Personally, I dislike a unified inbox as I like to know who is sending me stuff where and with what address I should be replying with. I've yet to setup folders and such but I expect you can since folders are a pretty basic function for e-mail. I know the Exchange ActiveSync will sync folders, contacts, and calendar so you probably can.
cosine83 said:
Pretty sure the GMail app has label support. You can star and label things as is since "folders" are just labels in GMail anyways. Push for GMail is a FroYo feature, afaik. Looking forward to that instead of having an active connection for my GMail.
Zooming out would be nice but on the Evo's screen it doesn't seem like it would be really needed unless you have people e-mailing you that don't know how to press the enter key every now and then. I haven't tried zooming in/out in the HTC e-mail app but I doubt it's present there. Seems like a low priority feature, imo.
The non-GMail e-mail program is pretty good. Supports POP, IMAP and Exchange ActiveSync. Unified Inbox, no. Personally, I dislike a unified inbox as I like to know who is sending me stuff where and with what address I should be replying with. I've yet to setup folders and such but I expect you can since folders are a pretty basic function for e-mail. I know the Exchange ActiveSync will sync folders, contacts, and calendar so you probably can.
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Yea, the Gmail app does have Labels, which are essentially folders.
The Gmail app is perfect IMHO except zooming and selecting text. The zooming is an issue for emails I get that are HTML formatted. Like Gamestop or Best Buy, etc... They usually have big headers and text with padding on the left. This makes the text all out of my view. The only way to read then is to turn my phone sideways and/or scroll left to right as I read... A little anoying. I noticed this issue in the HTC mail program too.
I also noticed today that I can't select text or copy it from emails in the Gmail application. I'm not sure if this is an issue in other clients as well or what.
not to thread jack by any means, but this seems relevant to my question, somewhat. does anyone know how to (when you have multiple accounts linked) have it send from a specific account or am i limited to the one i have synced with my phone?
thanks and i hope you get your problems resolved, i wish i could select text too, its a bit annoying that that feature isnt there.
Gmail app works perfectly for my purposes but you are right that it doesn't have zoom or the ability to cut and paste. If you come across an email where you need either of these two, just open up your browser and go to Gmail from there. Both of those functions work perfectly on the mobile gmail site.
Yea, that's what I've been doing. Just a little tedious considering they are pretty basic features. Not really dealbreakers for me though.
Might I suggest K-9 mail, it's and open source solution that has imap/pop support and integrates seamlessly.
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Might I suggest K-9 mail, it's and open source solution that has imap/pop support and integrates seamlessly.
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I'll try it. It can't hurt right.
I'll throw in a vote for k9. I use it to manage 3 emails, two IMAP emails through godaddy and my gmail. It works great for me.
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Yea, that's what I've been doing. Just a little tedious considering they are pretty basic features. Not really dealbreakers for me though.
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Oh I agree. I am all for decreasing keystrokes/screen presses. That's the reason I have Camcorder and Camera on my home screen. I should only need one but if I'm in a hurry to capture something, the fact that it takes an extra three screen presses to switch between video/still means that I might miss it.
I think it's quite likely that Gmail will be updated to include those basic features in the near future.

GMail app - Fit to screen?

Is there any way to make HTML emails in the GMail app fit to the screen so that I'm not scrolling all over the place trying to read them? It seems the iPhone email client handled HTML messages much better unless I'm missing something. It's very frustrating!
I have the same complaint. The Gmail iPhone app had the same problem, but like you said it was a non-issue in the iPhones official mail app.
Hopefully the Gmail app will see this fixed/implemented soon!
I'm shocked that there's no way to do this. Coming from the iPhone everyone said GMail was MUUUUUCH better on Android but without this basic feature it's not even close. GMail on android is cumbersome and I can't even read half my emails bc it's a mess all ver the screen and I don't want to be scrolling all over the place! Really disappointed.
And maildroid fix your problem

[Q] Alternative to Gmail app

Is there a good alternative to the Gmail app? I need support for threaded view, and must be able to view messages when offline.
I have my personal Gmail account synced to the Gmail app, but I also want to see my company email (which uses Gmail as a back end) in an app. Don't want to mix business with private emails though.
At the moment I access company mail through the browser interface which isn't optimal.
Thanks!
You can try K-9 mail app
jayerfernandes said:
You can try K-9 mail app
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Doesn't support threaded view.
U can use the default exchange mail app. Just setup as IMAP account.
Have tried a lot of different mail clients, but ended up using K9.
K9 do not have the most sexy GUI and I hate the icon even I know why devs keep on to it ... but honestly ... come on a head of a robot dog LOL
It have some smal bugs, but all together the best mail client I have tried until now.
I actually likes it so much that I contributed with a Danish translation.
BTW its open source and its possible to download latest version from http://code.google.com for free
Best mail client is Maildroid:
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYWlsZHJvaWQiXQ..
Better than K9 and does support threaded view.Just try it...
Mittaa said:
Have tried a lot of different mail clients, but ended up using K9.
K9 do not have the most sexy GUI and I hate the icon even I know why devs keep on to it ... but honestly ... come on a head of a robot dog LOL
It have some smal bugs, but all together the best mail client I have tried until now.
I actually likes it so much that I contributed with a Danish translation.
BTW its open source and its possible to download latest version from http://code.google.com for free
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Thanks, but again it doesn't support threaded view Though I understand there are some custom versions that do.
eltarod said:
Best mail client is Maildroid:
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYWlsZHJvaWQiXQ..
Better than K9 and does support threaded view.Just try it...
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Thanks, have tried it and it's not bad. The threaded view is a bit cumbersome though, it groups messages correctly, but you need to exit each message to view the next instead of just scrolling down. Will keep it though.
Wish I could duplicate the Gmail app actually, or even better port the Mail app from iOS.
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Thanks, but again it doesn't support threaded view Though I understand there are some custom versions that do.
Thanks, have tried it and it's not bad. The threaded view is a bit cumbersome though, it groups messages correctly, but you need to exit each message to view the next instead of just scrolling down. Will keep it though.
Wish I could duplicate the Gmail app actually, or even better port the Mail app from iOS.
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Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
Why don't you use Gmail?
If you have two Gmail accounts just add them both to your phone. Your mail won't mix, you'll just have to select the account you'll use in the upper left corner.
Or you can use the default Samsung app like anlimdy22 suggested.
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Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
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K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
anlimdy22 said:
Why don you use default samsung email? It can be set as pop3 or imap. Can create multiple account on it.
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Honestly, couldn't get that to work - just forced closed time and time again, and when it did work it couldn't verify the settings (the very same ones that K-9, Maildroid and the Gmail app could). Better apps are usually available externally
bpivk said:
Why don't you use Gmail?
If you have two Gmail accounts just add them both to your phone. Your mail won't mix, you'll just have to select the account you'll use in the upper left corner.
Or you can use the default Samsung app like anlimdy22 suggested.
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You're right, I assumed that it would mix emails from both account but it actually works well. Can't say I think the system to switch between accounts is the smoothest possible, but usage-wise it's still the best experience I've found. Thanks.
Mittaa said:
K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
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Yes, K-9 is powerful and feature-rich but I just prefer the Gmail app. The threaded view alone is worth it. Each to their own though!
Mittaa said:
K9 offers some features that I need, and most important ... editing in Gmail and Samsung mail is pain. I use Swype Keyboard and it behaves odd when I use Gmail and Samsung mail.
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Turn off word suggestion in Swype, it will help you to edit mail in default email app.
On the subject, the stock GMail app is the worst client I've ever seen. No multi touch is a PITA. The stock email app is good, still not the very best out there. Tried almost all the clients, Maildroid and all, yet to find one which suits my need, K9 was good, maybe I've to try it again.
Its really unbelievable that the client in iOS I used 3 years back was way better than all of these in Android!!!
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ithehappy said:
Turn off word suggestion in Swype, it will help you to edit mail in default email app.
On the subject, the stock GMail app is the worst client I've ever seen. No multi touch is a PITA. The stock email app is good, still not the very best out there. Tried almost all the clients, Maildroid and all, yet to find one which suits my need, K9 was good, maybe I've to try it again.
Its really unbelievable that the client in iOS I used 3 years back was way better than all of these in Android!!!
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Actually, I'd say the iOS Mail app is still better - where better, for me, means easier to use. Swipe-to-delete alone makes it a winner.
Yes, that's correct. Simplicity of using is way beyond everything.
Anyway started using K9 again, nice, but I couldn't get the idea of getting 'Message Sent' confirmation/notification! I guess it was present before or am I missing something...!
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Best push mail app?

My main email is a domain name I own. It's not Gmail or Hotmail or anything similar. I am looking for an inexpensive mail app that will instantly push new mail to my device. I've seen there is K9 and another one called mail DROID but just wondering if there is something cheaper?
I default email app doesn't instantly push right.? Only every five minutes which I assume drains the battery
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I've been using the paid version of InoMail and like it a lot. It pushes pretty well.
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proplayer44 said:
I've seen there is K9 and another one called mail DROID but just wondering if there is something cheaper?
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K-9 and MailDroid (not the pro version) are free. How much cheaper do you want?
I'm partial to K-9 as I've been using it w/o complaints for a few years. It does push just fine. The UI is dated, but the next upgrade is supposed to improve that.
Oh sweet. I thought they were only free for 30 days. I thought I read that. I'll give them a try.
Emoze is my choise
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K-9 and MailDroid (not the pro version) are free. How much cheaper do you want?
I'm partial to K-9 as I've been using it w/o complaints for a few years. It does push just fine. The UI is dated, but the next upgrade is supposed to improve that.
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I use Emoze Push client in my Android device which gives the ability to push any type of email ,obviously Exchange ,IMAP,Gmail Hotmail but even POP3 which is very limited email protocol.
I've done benchmarks with the stock ICS email client and with several third party clients and I find that Emoze has the advantage in almost every aspect.
Push notification is stable and fast ,less than 60 sec.
Battery consumption is low ,I’m able to work in push mode without charging for at least 22 hours.
I’m quite a heavy email user so it was kind of a surprise to me because I used to have 6-8 hours max with only one account working in push.
I have 5 email accounts which is about 100-200 email per day so no kidding ,this one really improved my life ,I’m less paranoid about my battery.
Other features which are quite useful are the security options that allows you to find the device location by SMS or email
and also to remote wipe or block by SMS.
This is cool because you don’t need PC connected to the internet to get the job done ,you can simply send SMS to your phone number to activate the security process.
proplayer44 said:
Oh sweet. I thought they were only free for 30 days. I thought I read that. I'll give them a try.
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Nope. Been using maildroid for almost 2 years now.
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Not exactly an answer to your question, but I got sick of maintaining my Qmail server a few years back and gave GAFYD (Google Apps For Your Domain) a whirl. Best decision I ever made, letting Google handle my email. Plus, the price was right: Free. Now I can use any Gmail app I want to get my custom domain emails.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
1. InoMail
2. K9 Mail
3. Mail droid (serious here I had when using multiple accounts; it messed up between accounts n emails attaching totally unrelated mails in replies; so use only for one)
magn2o said:
Not exactly an answer to your question, but I got sick of maintaining my Qmail server a few years back and gave GAFYD (Google Apps For Your Domain) a whirl. Best decision I ever made, letting Google handle my email. Plus, the price was right: Free. Now I can use any Gmail app I want to get my custom domain emails.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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This. I moved to Google for my domain email about 4 or 5 years ago. The trick though is that we are grandfathered in with some extra features that new accounts don't get. I think we get more users.
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diablo009 said:
1. InoMail
2. K9 Mail
3. Mail droid (serious here I had when using multiple accounts; it messed up between accounts n emails attaching totally unrelated mails in replies; so use only for one)
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Inomail are you kidding the app doesnt actually look for email you have to manually sych in order to egt you email and it lookss so much like ios with all it's huge useless buttons and scroll wheels it makes me ill.
As for k-9 ...after how badly the messed up kaiten (crashes when you reply and is butt ugly) I would avoid anything from these guys.
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Inomail are you kidding the app doesnt actually look for email you have to manually sych in order to egt you email and it lookss so much like ios with all it's huge useless buttons and scroll wheels it makes me ill.
As for k-9 ...after how badly the messed up kaiten (crashes when you reply and is butt ugly) I would avoid anything from these guys.
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No you just need to set Push or the polling frequency in settings.

what email application are you using?

For years I've used Gmail as my primary email app. And lately it seems worse than ever. Emails seem shower then normal, it will notify me even when the emails are syncing (annoying), and then takes a long time send. And now since their latest update, I have 2 apps for Gmail in my tray. What email app do others use I'm curious.
BlueMail. It's free, and basically perfect.
I use gmail, works flawlessly
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I use gmail, works flawlessly
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Do you have any issues such as a duplicate icon?
This question is as old as Android..
I think I have been on all of them, free and paid. There isn't one that has no issues. All of them has great features. Some of them have better security, and the bottom line is, they are all not bad.
Now days, surprisingly, I'm back to the Samsung built in email app. Even my Gmail is on it ..
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Do you have any issues such as a duplicate icon?
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, no just one
I think Nine is the best (check Play). It's not free but there's a trial you can test. Very flexible, great features, and fast. I have no connection to the dev (s) - just a happy user.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
Samsung email on the device is tolerable. I have messed with Newton and Spark as well. They all have their +/-, but I miss inbox.
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I use gmail.
No issues here. Works fine.
Stock and Outlook for company mail.
The best one is AquaMail
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kman.AquaMail
Tons of options. Amazing app.
BlueMail is the best Gmail replacement will never go back
I went from MailDroid (pro) over to Outlook. I loved maildroid, but the UI is/was very overdue for an update. Outlook has been a great replacement, and it integrates well with my PCs.
I'm using Spike email. It's very different. You can have the email format appear as a text thread. Also, I really love the oled black theme. Before this, I used Spark. And before that I enjoyed Bluemail.
I use Bluemail.
I have about 7 different email addresses and some are not Gmail accounts.
Bluemail has an export accounts option so when I switch devices I don't have to re enter all the addresses on the new phone.
Aquamail for me too
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I think Nine is the best (check Play). It's not free but there's a trial you can test. Very flexible, great features, and fast. I have no connection to the dev (s) - just a happy user.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
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I agree, although at the present I am using default email app, I agree that nine mail is perhaps the best with lots of personalisation and works well with exchange mail, what is an important feature for me
sansnil said:
I think Nine is the best (check Play). It's not free but there's a trial you can test. Very flexible, great features, and fast. I have no connection to the dev (s) - just a happy user.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
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This! Nine is by far the best and most flexible email app out there. Same here btw, just a happy user ?
I'm using Fairmail, it comes with very good privacy roles and features and has cool features.
I tried Spark when it came out bit went back to Gmail. Then saw Spark made some updates and went back to it and I don't think I will use another app again. Now that it has dark mode and you can create folders. It is the closest thing to Inbox (RIP).

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