I realise this is most likely a stupid question - Video related - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

But I want to ask it regardless, since I don't fully understand how it works.
I read on here in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080194
that the play has hardware acceleration support for some video players. The one mentioned in that thread is moboplayer. He said that it was mkv 720p with subtitles. However, whenever I've tried to play mkv with hardware acceleration, it says it cannot and uses the software instead, which is quite slow.
Now, I could overclock and get it to play better, but I'm wondering if there is any mkv hardware support in the play after all. Because I converted a slow video to mp4 and the hardware acceleration actually worked with that and was flawless, even better than overclocking, even when underclocked. Which I would rather do, since it should save on battery power.
tl;dr Does the Xperia Play really have mkv hardware support? Because I don't want to convert things, since it takes ages.

MizuhoChan said:
But I want to ask it regardless, since I don't fully understand how it works.
I read on here in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080194
that the play has hardware acceleration support for some video players. The one mentioned in that thread is moboplayer. He said that it was mkv 720p with subtitles. However, whenever I've tried to play mkv with hardware acceleration, it says it cannot and uses the software instead, which is quite slow.
Now, I could overclock and get it to play better, but I'm wondering if there is any mkv hardware support in the play after all. Because I converted a slow video to mp4 and the hardware acceleration actually worked with that and was flawless, even better than overclocking, even when underclocked. Which I would rather do, since it should save on battery power.
tl;dr Does the Xperia Play really have mkv hardware support? Because I don't want to convert things, since it takes ages.
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Yo man ye there is I use Diceplayer, its pretty epic player it plays my mkv through hw i think its the only one, i used to use mobo now i use this. It plays my anime and stuff. So try it out it costs money though no free but really its worth it through hw u save urself loads of battery. I just download or rip mkvs then put them on and pfft they work. ITS AWESOME

I just got the trial and tried the file that doesn't work well. It says "The video could not be hardware acelerated. Would you play using a software player?"
I assume it meant "would you like to play" =)

perhaps qqplayer or rockplayer
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Hm, qqplayer was slower than moboplayer and rockplayer was also slow, since it wouldn't use hardware either. Also, the software decoder had artifacts all over.
Best I've found is MX video player. It has software fast mode.
But still, does this mean that the play doesn't have any hardware acceleration for mkv?

OK I not sure
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Maybe you need a particular codec pack for your chipset (Snapdragon).

I'm not sure that there is one. I've google'd around a bit, but haven't found anything useful.
Oh well =(.

if you are playing anime, the codec most sub groups are using for the latest seasons of shows is hi10p h264 which cannot be hardware accelerated as of yet, even on a pc.

btw, i'm using diceplayer (used mobo player too but it wouldn't load the subtitles) and i'm able to load 720p h264 high compression (i found an as resource intensive video as i could.) and ran it fully in software decoding.. though i have doomlord's 2ghz kernel installed.
at 2ghz the video ran flawlessly and at 1.4ghz it ran really well most of the time, but lagged during some of the more resource intensive moments, though it never lost audio sync. the only problem I have is that none of the video players out atm support ordered chapters, but we're gunna have to wait for vlc for that one I'm sure.
one of these days i'm going to get around to compiling androids vlc from git. from what i understand it's really mature at this point and running pretty well..no big bugs.

I'm aware of hi10p and the only way to get those running is to convert to mp4 with handbrake (since it's a nice small file), but it takes a while. I looked for a converter that uses CUDA, but the only one I found also took a while and output a 900mb file or so and it didn't even work =)
I'm also using the 2Ghz from DooMLorD, but as I said, it'd be nicer to be able to use hardware acceleration, since it'll use less power. Also, I converted Angel Beats, episode 3, since the OP has a high framerate. When I compared 2Ghz to hardware acceleration, the hardware acceleration was actually superior, even when running at about 600Mhz. Not that I suppose it matters, since it's hardware, but still.
So yeah, this is pretty much why I wanted hardware acceleration. Also because I have a huge backlog of stuff to watch and it'd be nice to do it when I'm outside too.
Incidentally, I tried the diceplayer trial and I found that MX video player was faster. When I had just installed 2.3.4 for the first time, the Angel Beats OP played pretty well, even on 1Ghz, but now that I've had it installed for a while and installed more things, I think I've messed it up somehow, since it's a bit slower. That, or the updates have made it worse, since it's on 1.4c now I believe and I started on 1.3.

not that this actually helps you any, but i just tried mx player and it actually supports subtitles even better than diceplayer, and it supports ordered chapters, plus it does properly support hardware acceleration. i was able to play ao no exorcist at 1ghz. i'm actually really suprised. i never expected to be able to play stuff at stock clockspeed.
maybe you have a lot of stuff running in the background. you could try getting a task manager and killing all the stuff you dont need before you start watching videos.
i don't really have anything running in the background on my device since I just reflashed it yesterday and haven't gotten around to putting hella stuff on it yet.

But was Ao played in hardware mode? And was it an mp4 or mkv?

it was an mkv, and after looking back, it was running in software mode. we might just be s.o.l. most anime subs groups use really obscure and specialised h264 profiles.
mx running in fast software decode mode is the best i've seen so far though.
did you used to have hardware decoding on the old version using new anime release? like gg's or commie's releases for example?

I've not had anything run with hardware when using an mkv container, even though it's h264 and I thought the play had that codec.
I suppose I could try a few old videos, but even if it worked, I'd have to convert the newer ones, but I wanted to avoid that, which is why I wanted it in the first place =)

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Best Video Player for TP2?

I am trying to find a good player for .avi, .mpeg4, etc. for my TP2. I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
Thanks!
The WMP supports avi and mp4. And it works!
Hmm, it does not work for me. That is strange.
dcam1075 said:
I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
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Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
Try Core Player. It is amazing... it is also running via network (wifi)
the best video player is coreplayer
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the best video player is coreplayer
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The impression I get from reading these fora is that CorePlayer may be the best but that it's still not actually particularly good, as it is unable to benefit from any of the hardware acceleration provided by the Qualcomm chipset - this being HTC's fault for providing dodgy or non-existent drivers. It seems like this is a major weakness of the TP2.
Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
solsearch said:
Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
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Let me get this straight... Your saying it's not HTC's fault because you think they didn't know they were buying chipsets without drivers from Qualcomm. To me it sounds like they cheaped out and screwed consumers.
I highly doubt its a misunderstanding and I'm not afraid to place blame because I'm more than certain HTC knew what they were doing otherwise they wouldn't keep ordering more of the same chipset to produce new phones.
If this were really the case I would assume we would see slightly different hardware or drivers included with CDMA versions since they would have had time to figure this out since everyone else already has.
Gave up Core Player for the Touch phones. It doesn't play movies at all well. Just use the built-in WMP or the HTC album player.
Download the Encoder GUI and just re-encode your movies. Let it run during your bedtime. Easy!
Lord_BlackAdder said:
What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
Shasarak said:
For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
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Re-encode it using the Encoder GUI. Why fight it?
Don't think there any mobile phones that can play xvid videos at 800x480 smoothly. Even the latest i8000 only supports video playback at up to 720x480.
Even if you get an iPhone, you will still need to convert it to in order for you to watch it.
My solution, either re-encode it, or play a lower resolution xvid (i think i tried it once at 622x288, can't remember and it played ok in core player).
I'd go with Coreplayer too as it has the widest range of codecs available BUT if the bitrate of your clip is too high your phone won't like it whatever player you use (but you probably knew that anyway...)
Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hey, good find! Will give it a try for sure! Cheers!
Core player has some nice features, but benchmarking h264 playback it was somewhat lacking compaired to windows media player mobile....
95% of the time u will want to/have to re-encode to make it smaller or lower the bitrate to something it can play, so codec support shoudnt be a choosing factor...
I get WMPM playing smooth with H264(1300~ bitrate) and ACC audio(stereo at 128 varieable bitrate) at 800x416. which is dame nice quality on the small screen
I'll start a thread on encoding with MeGUI to get you all started
But I can't get full screen on WMP
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What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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Do you know what I'm doing wrong? After not being able to use WMP on my Universal (WM5) because it could not do full screen - I load a movie into WMP on my shiny new Touch Pro 2 and 'full screen' isn't - it has a dirty great big border round it! The video is smaller then the screen but WMP is set to stretch to screen. What gives??
John
Shasarak said:
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
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wow that done the trick for me, awesome playback imo
I tried the Touch HD encoder and used the advised settings in the thread.
Playback is smooth in HTC Album, but the quality seemed fuzzier than my normal method.
So back I go to:
Coreplayer
Videos encoded using PocketDivXEncoder with the following settings:
HDTV preset
Video quality: 70
Audio quality: maximum
Resize the video so that the video width is 400 pixels, maintaining the aspect ratio.

[Q] MKV Player Problem

So I've recently started watching shows again and I've wanted to find a great MKV player that works well on the Dinc. Only problem I'm having is the actual playback, is the Dinc not suited for mkv playability?
When I use Rockplayer, its really choppy on the different files. And the sound doesn't seem to sync up all that well, a bit on the laggy side. I know the hardware isn't really suited for video playability but it seems to do pretty well on avi's and mp4's and the sort. MKV seems to be the popular type among others, but it isn't handled well by the phone.
Should I just convert my videos to the "lower" format? Does anyone have a good reccomendation for an MKV player or settings of the sort?
Thanks in advance!
I tried RockPlayer today, too, and was disappointed in it. Seems that I'll be transcoding my files to AVI with h264 or some such. It might help to remove unnecessary language tracks, subs, etc. If you don't plan on using another screen to view the files, downsizing to 720x480 would be a great help, if the source files are larger.
Have you tried VPlayer? it is in alpha right now, but I haven't had a problem with it playing anything. Although I haven't tried a HD movie file.
When I had the Original Motorola Droid 1 I used both RockPlayer and arcMedia.
When I tested .mkv files with arcMedia, it played really smooth.
Look for arcMedia in the market and let us know if it works out better for you.
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Have you tried VPlayer? it is in alpha right now, but I haven't had a problem with it playing anything. Although I haven't tried a HD movie file.
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VPlayer seems like the closest possible. Once it gets better I'll definitely use it. But right now, its not so good because its pretty choppy. For one of my dual audio files, it plays a screechy sound, but it'll get better. I'll leave the creator some feedback and such but, I like it.
FranzVz said:
When I had the Original Motorola Droid 1 I used both RockPlayer and arcMedia.
When I tested .mkv files with arcMedia, it played really smooth.
Look for arcMedia in the market and let us know if it works out better for you.
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It works somewhat well, but when I play videos, they're still choppy and the sound isn't synced either. Better than Rockplayer in terms of playing mkv files but maybe it might also be the size of the file itself that is causing the problems.
500mb does seem like quite a bit to process. But...a contradiction lies with the fact that Rockplayer and others can play large avi/mp4 files? Gah, I guess I'll just wait for updates or something, convert some of my files. >_>
Check out CorePlayer on Twitter. Their tweets indicate that it will be released very soon.
I've been waiting for this since I made the switch from Windows Mobile to Android. It should be extremely stable and play everything.
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mkv files are a problem in general. Most of my files are in .avi. I have a 1.4 gb dream theater concert that runs fine on arcmedia, but again its not an mkv.
We have VLC Mobile to look forward to early 2011 lol
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I want to be able to play all movie types.

I dont want to have to worry about decoding, or converting, or anything at all. I just want to click on a movie file, and play it. Is there any player out there(free) that can do that?
Vplayer is like that, and WAS free until about 3 days ago. you can give rockplayer a try, it isnt bad.
It really depends on the type of file you are trying to play (there are tons of video formats/containers out there). If you use some obscure format, you should search for it (try either directly in the market or on this site).
For the more commonly-used types though, popular choices on this forum include RockPlayer and VPlayer (not as popular now because it has become a paid app). Some people also like arcMedia. I believe there is also a ported version of mPlayer in the main app forum. Supposedly, VLC for Android will be coming out soon as well.
I've been using VPlayer without any issues, though I'm interested to try VLC once it comes out. RockPlayer also worked well for me before VPlayer came out.
okay well i found a 4 day old vplayer.apk online. we'll see what that does.
Edit: it flickers, a lot. Is it always like that?
I heard VLC is coming out soon for Android (sometime this month). If so and if it's anything like the PC version it should play pretty much anything.
Not sure about ISO (not sure if you need that), but for common formats like AVI, WMV, MP4, I find Rockplayer to be the best. It handles every video I've thrown at it. Although sometimes I need to pick either hardware decoding off/on depending on the video. With it off, some WMV videos lag. With it on, some AVI videos FC the program.
Vplayer lags into slow-motion on some WMV movies, and also has some pixelation for a few seconds while scanning through a few AVI videos. But otherwise a pretty decent player also.
ArcMedia was a very poor player, to me. It lagged on WMV videos. Interface needed lots of work (displayed file names too short, no landscape browsing). Inferior to both Rockplayer and vPlayer. Similarly, I tried mPlayer, file compatibility was not great, and the interface was really clunky. It takes too much time to navigate and find the desired video.
yeah when i said all formats, i really meant all the like, common ones. but more than just mpeg, and wmv. so divx and h264 is about as much as i need. I got vplayer installed now, the beta. the beta is pretty good, i wouldnt mind paying for it. I mean i would mind, because its just a damn video player, but i also wouldnt mind it. but it flickers a lot. is that normal?
I haven't noticed any flickering on vPlayer, that's odd. Is it evident just watching a video for a couple minutes (I mostly use Rockplayer)?
I have never had any flickering with vplayer. Try setting the lum at a level. Move your finger up on the left half of the screen while watching a video.
Video playback on android is a bit of a problem still. Problem is that the built-in player only recognizes a few containers, and these containers are very restricted in the content they can carry.
There are some other players that are more universal, but a design limitation of android makes it impossible for them to use the integrated video decoder to accelerate decode. As a result, these players will have a very low performance and drain your battery fast due to running the CPU hard.

Galaxy Nexus 1080p FULL HD and 720p MKV Video Playback Test

What do you think?
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So in summary:
1080p MKV:
laggy with no sound in stock player
laggy with synced sound in QQ player
MKV Scene released (torrents)
Has issues preventing playback
720p MKV:
Runs fine (stock player et al)
1080p MP4:
Runs fine (stock player et al)
I'd suggest trying MX Player instead. Probably no need for a video though.
ill just leave this here http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Still I'm disappointed with the performance, coming for a Galaxy S2 and all.
I had no problems at all playing a 400MB large 6 minutes long 1080p MP4 video. If there are problems with other formats, that has got to do with the application playing them or the codecs used. GN can play high definition video very well.
kristovaher said:
I had no problems at all playing a 400MB large 6 minutes long 1080p MP4 video. If there are problems with other formats, that has got to do with the application playing them or the codecs used. GN can play high definition video very well.
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The problem is some people encode their stuff as mkv or download hd rips (cheeky) off the internet.
The Galaxy Nexus feels more like an iPhone now I suppose as you cannot chuck any file at it and expect it to play, perhaps I'm used to the ease of things with the GS2.
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The problem is some people encode their stuff as mkv or download hd rips (cheeky) off the internet.
The Galaxy Nexus feels more like an iPhone now I suppose as you cannot chuck any file at it and expect it to play, perhaps I'm used to the ease of things with the GS2.
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But of course. You cannot chuck ANY file at it. Nothing works like that. You cannot chuck ANY file at Windows either.
Just because it has problems with high definition mkv files doesn't mean it has problems with mkv files in general. Just play lower resolution files and if it doesn't play, try out a different player that might.
Let's remember that high definition video playing is still promoted as feature on high end tablets. Tablets are a bit more powerful to begin with, phones have not caught up with your high end TV or laptop yet.
I don't feel this is an issue with the phone its application thing..
Most mkv's have an h.264 video stream which the phone can hardware decode its just the software doesn't know the container so I presume its software decoding and in which case im impressed it does as well as it does..
Vplayer might be a good app to try..
True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
the video doesn't help at all really
no bitrates were mentioned on the "laggy" video
no video or audio codecs were mentioned anywhere in the video
MKV can contain any number of different video and audio codecs
MP4 can contain (for example) h.263 and h.264 codecs
This is really annoying coming from a GS2. GS2 played any video file I threw at it. On the Nexus I have to use an app from the market and even then its not as fluid. I guess this is due to the older GPU. In general I am dissapointed with this phone, the S2 is much snappier.
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This is really annoying coming from a GS2. GS2 played any video file I threw at it. On the Nexus I have to use an app from the market and even then its not as fluid. I guess this is due to the older GPU. In general I am dissapointed with this phone, the S2 is much snappier.
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Sorry total rubbish, you are using a stock Android ICS phone, it does not come with touchwiz and other Samsung software, one of it being a video player. Please don't blame this on the phone hardware, it is nothing to do with it. If you expected everything to work out of the box I'm afraid maybe you should have got another phone! Stick on MX Player as an earlier poster suggested, also DICE player has now been updated, took all of 1 minute to get this information!
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True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
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Google can only put on file formats and codecs that they have licenses for and native Android 4.0 comes with open source software and proprietary Google owned software.
Yes, it is a 'pure Google' issue even if you don't care about it. And more open than others on the market has its advantages and disadvantages. Sorry that you are disappointed, but reality is that Android Market has a number of media players that can play a lot of file formats and codecs that Android 4.0 does not natively support. No one forces you to use native players.
Using diceplayer the Galaxy Nexus can play any content I throw at it. It can play samples from Bluray rips at full bitrate so it's as good as you could possibly need it to be (unless you have higher than bluray quality material).
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Sorry total rubbish, you are using a stock Android ICS phone, it does not come with touchwiz and other Samsung software, one of it being a video player. Please don't blame this on the phone hardware, it is nothing to do with it. If you expected everything to work out of the box I'm afraid maybe you should have got another phone! Stick on MX Player as an earlier poster suggested, also DICE player has now been updated, took all of 1 minute to get this information!
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You're right, I completely forgot about touchwiz, my bad. Tried dice player and had issues with my avi rips lagging, this was couple of days ago. I'll try the new dice player today.
I have been experiencing lag in the browser (pinch to zoom on heavy sites) which I didnt have in the GS2 (loved the bounce and elastic scrolling in that browser). I also sometimes get lag when loading the appdrawer (animation is laggy).
Don't know if I'm being paranoid but I think my device may be a bit messed up. When I took it out of the box, I was never greeted with the setup, just the home screen. Had to manually go to settings and add an account. Perhaps this was a returned model that I got given ?
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True, but with another phone (which I will not name as I may be labelled a fanboi) I chuck numerous files... and they played.
Don't get me wrong, not everyone cares if this phone is 'pure google' or if somethings not 'optimised' for it, we just want it to work.
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That's because samsung offers enhanced codec support on their galaxy S phones.. those phones running an AOSP build like CM 7 cannot play those formats out of the box. (last time I checked, they hadn't managed to port over samsung's codec support)
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You're right, I completely forgot about touchwiz, my bad. Tried dice player and had issues with my avi rips lagging, this was couple of days ago. I'll try the new dice player today.
I have been experiencing lag in the browser (pinch to zoom on heavy sites) which I didnt have in the GS2 (loved the bounce and elastic scrolling in that browser). I also sometimes get lag when loading the appdrawer (animation is laggy).
Don't know if I'm being paranoid but I think my device may be a bit messed up. When I took it out of the box, I was never greeted with the setup, just the home screen. Had to manually go to settings and add an account. Perhaps this was a returned model that I got given ?
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Where did you get your's from? Was the box sealed? Mine was from O2, no issues at all, minimal lag if any, I also had a GS2 and I find the GN a much nicer device to use. Maybe do a full factory wipe and start again. For the video MXPlayer has just been updated for ICS and incorporates hardware decoding, best of all it's free, maybe install this one first. Also check the quality of the video's you are putting on.
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Where did you get your's from? Was the box sealed? Mine was from O2, no issues at all, minimal lag if any, I also had a GS2 and I find the GN a much nicer device to use. Maybe do a full factory wipe and start again. For the video MXPlayer has just been updated for ICS and incorporates hardware decoding, best of all it's free, maybe install this one first. Also check the quality of the video's you are putting on.
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Contract on O2 but bought from phones4u. They didnt have any in their local shop so they sent this guy to get it from a shop nearby. When the guy gave it to me the box was not sealed (didnt have to cut / open anything to be able to get device out). I thought they do this to show you the phone before hand.
The phone itself had a plastic cover on it's front and back. Thinking back now I'didnt have to put the battery in either, just the SIM.
This was bought 2 days ago. I have done a reset, still do get the same lag, the camera is absolute ****e as well.
I was on text chat to O2 today, told them about the volume bug and all that, and they gave me a ref number. They also said that I could take to any phones4u shop and get it swapped, I will have to do that just to keep my self from going insane with paranoia.
I just want it to work. Call me a snob but I don't really care about sense or touchwiz, as long as it works, that's fine by me.

[Q] How to play 720p mkv smoothly?

Hello, my friends. I'm currently using ICS Arconium ROM (.64 baseband) in My Arc S and I'd like to know if is there possible to run mkv hd (720p) videos (movies, series etc) smoothly. When I try to do so, most of the times it goes laggy. Is there any app or tweak to fix this? Thanks.
Try MX Video Player, i can play my video smoothly with it
I tried this player, but it doesn't work very well here. It keeps laggy. I heard that DICEPLAYER is the best mkv player for android, and I just bought it (about 6 dollars), but when I start it, it crashes... =\ Thank you anyway
I have tried 1080p streams on the phone, and it was smooth, but I had the stock ROM when I tested that.
I believe our phone doesn't support .mkv out-of-the-box(correct me, if wrong), but you can get it work with RockPlayer(also plays .avis!)
I am using vplayer which can play most of the file formats.
I tested all of these, guys... Not successfully =\ Some of them screw up the subtitles (my native language is portuguese, they doesn't accept characters as ^ ´ ´ ~ etc) and in ALL of them mkv doesn't work well. I think that Arc S has a strong enough processor to run this format without any lag, but it's not working...
You can try MoboPlayer. But make sure, that you Enable "Soft decoding" in menu. If still doesn't work, you should try to download "MoboPlayer codecs" but you must download right version for arc S prosessor. I think it is ARMV7VFP3 but I am not sure of that.
Just tried Moboplayer... But no changes.
I'm sure that my Arc S is powerful enough to run this kind of video, but it's not working fine. The video/audio are pretty out of sync... The audio runs normal, but the video gets slow and/or laggy. I tried overclocking my processor to almost 2Ghz, but for nothing.
I contacted the developer of DicePlayer and he responded... He provided me with a working version of the app (no crash when starting), but the lag/sync problem continued.
See what he said: "I may need to check with the device, but currently I don't have the device. In my opinion, ICS needs more heap memory than Gingerbread, so the main problem is from lack of memory. Anyway I'll check it and try to resolve the playback issue."
Obviously the Arc S processor is nor guilty for the lag, but possibly the low level. Maybe a memory optimizer will answer my problem?
New response:
Hi,
The single core Qualcomm chipset has some weak point to decode the H.264 MP/HP video frames, so it may depend on the video files. I don't know that is the reason or not. I'll check the issue when I get the device, but I don't know when it is.
We can watch mkv videos @720p with hardware acceleration but most of the films and shows are encoded with profile level 4.1 and our phone can play only videos with profile 3.1/4.0. This levels can be changed within 1 second using H264LevelEditor. I always change it to 3.1 and almost every movie is running perfectly. With 4.0 I can't get it to play. But even with this change I couldn't play one video. Don't know why but the only one difference I noticed was "Format settings, ReFrames". Sometimes it is 5 frames and someetime 8 or 9. But dunno if it's the problem
I use diceplayer on arconium 7.2 with latest doomkernel.
btw. It was discussed before. Use search next time.
4.1, 4.0 or 3.1 or even 3.0 mkv 720p videos are running exacly the same way... It plays, the audio is OK but the video is laggy and slow, what makes them become out of sync with the audio...
Because you are playing videos with app that plays it in software mode, not in hardware mode. It's normal that phone can't decode 720p video with software mode. You need to get videos to play in hardware mode. BSplayer has it's own hardware support but it's still not what it's suppouse to be. The only app that play in hardware mode mkv videos with profile level 3.1 for me is DicePlayer. And it's doing it without any glitches or lags. It's perfectly A/V synced
I bought DicePlayer yesterday, I'm running my videos on it. All levels are now in 3.1, and I realized that some of them run in SW mode, and some in HW mode. When it runs in hardware mode, everything goes pretty fine... When in software mode, I get the problems. How can I "force" HW mode? Is there a way? Thanks.
You can't force hardware mode. I don't know why some videos can't be played. It must be something with encoding videos, some settings. You can compare parameters of videos that are working with those played in software mode. There must be some difference and maybe there is a way to change it fast.
I also use MX Video Player with the additional codec on my LT15i but experience no lagg at all.
I watch mostly The Walking Dead in 720p MKV
I am at 1.5 GHZ on doomkernel so maybe you could consider overclocking.
Greetz
MX player. No lag at all. I am watching Bleach episode right now
Alright, some updates.
All my mkv files are level 3.1 level now... But still some of them can't run in HW mode. The video starts to play (diceplayer, of course) in HW mode but 1 second later it gets an error and returns to SW (laggy) mode. Half of my 720p mkv videos can run like a dream in hardware decoding (3.1 level), but some of them just can't, even in 3.1 level.
For example, The.Big.Bang.Theory.S05E05.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION can run very smoothly. Hardware deconding. Butt The.Big.Bang.Theory.S05E17.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION can't do the same, it goes only in SW.
What's the difference?!?! What else can I change?
Thanks.
Maybe is because your video was compiled in 10bits, nothing to do until somebody releases a player that supports 10bits well
But you can try MOBO, it lags at the start but after 2mins start running normal
I think you have to play it with MoboPlayer dude

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