All,
I have a question regarding what kernels are 'compatible' with various versions of CWM. The reason I ask is because the CWM threads I see are usually bundled with a specific kernel, and without finding specific info about that, I'm led to assume that there's a dependency there.
Until yesterday I was running Bubby's stock rooted kernel. FWIW this is my 'upgrade' path:
Zedo V3(Bad LOS) -> Bubby's stock pulled EB30 with root retained - Great performance, maybe 3 instances of LOS in the 2 months that I've been running it.
Perusing the dev section I saw that NoCIQ was available but required CWM to flash. A search for CWM yielded a few threads. Wanting to have a rooted, and not stock kernel, I settled on the LostKernel/CWM5 package. After a few hiccups getting back to no yellow triangle, etc. Things seemed to be running fine. And they still are...mostly.
The one difference is that on my way in to work this morning - I ride train that passes through several 3g/4g coverage areas so it will switch back and forth between them periodically, including a tunnel where ALL service is temporarily lost.
I noticed that when going through a small area where there is no data coverage at all(this is typical), that when I got back into a coverage area that I had complete LOS! Toggling airplane mode brought data back but to regain cell service I had to reboot my phone.
This is, again, after 2 months with virtually no LOS, travelling the same route every day. One instance is not a reason to panic but having it the first day of using a kernel that's supposed to reduce LOS has me a little concerned.
Now to the point of my babbling. What I want to know is if I would be able to put Bubby's kernel back onto my phone and still have it be compatible with the CWM5 that was installed via chris's lostkernel package?
Thanks in advance for any help.
The kernel consists of a linux kernel + an initramfs (which is basically an initial filesystem but mapped to cache memory, so technically part of the kernel)
On Samsung, the same kernel+initramfs is used for both Android and Recovery.
kernal+initramfs is what people around here call a zImage. When you flash a kernel/zImage, you get whatever recovery came in the initramfs of that kernel/zImage.
So CWM is not necessarily tied to a particular version of the kernel, you can match different versions of CWM with different kernels. However kernels (as the term is used for Samsung phones) do come bundled with a particular recovery, so you flash the kernel you get that recovery, whether that be stock or some version of CWM.
CWM/kernel
Heya.
Lostkernel is from source. Thus it will reduce your LOS but notget rid of it. Sofar for me the only kernel with CWM that is from a stock pulled kernel that has no LOS so far for me is chris41g pulled/CWM. Sorry for not adding link but just look in development and you should see it.
Also this is the Dev.section,you should post your questions in Q&A.
Hope this helps ya.
Indrid Cole said:
Heya.
Lostkernel is from source. Thus it will reduce your LOS but notget rid of it. Sofar for me the only kernel with CWM that is from a stock pulled kernel that has no LOS so far for me is chris41g pulled/CWM. Sorry for not adding link but just look in development and you should see it.
Also this is the Dev.section,you should post your questions in Q&A.
Hope this helps ya.
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A great recommendation. Chris's stock repacked kernels with CWM5 have been performed well for me
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JohnCorleone said:
A great recommendation. Chris's stock repacked kernels with CWM5 have been performed well for me
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I agree use chris stock kernel with cwm. Awesome kernel plus u get cwm.
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No. Also, please post questions in Q&A. ahhh.
Indrid Cole said:
Heya.
Lostkernel is from source. Thus it will reduce your LOS but notget rid of it. Sofar for me the only kernel with CWM that is from a stock pulled kernel that has no LOS so far for me is chris41g pulled/CWM. Sorry for not adding link but just look in development and you should see it.
Also this is the Dev.section,you should post your questions in Q&A.
Hope this helps ya.
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Apologies for wrong section, I guess since I thought it was dev related it was appropriate, duly noted for future reference and mods feel free to move if necessary.
Is the one you're recommending this one? - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368122
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Apologies for wrong section, I guess since I thought it was dev related it was appropriate, duly noted for future reference and mods feel free to move if necessary.
Is the one you're recommending this one? - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368122
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yes that's it. Are u on ek02 or eg30? U could still use ek02 so yes that is the stock kernel with cwm. U can also over clock the stock kernel with an app called tegrak. It is a paid app in the market. I highly recommend it for overclocking stock kernels.
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maybe i missed it but why do kernels have to overwrite recovery?
just seems like recovery should be untouched by anything except flashing a stock kernel or another recovery.
Yes thats the link.
He also has the same kernel with ACS recovery, I highly recomend the ACS recovery, there are a couple extra goodies in it such as pre ROM flash wipe and pre theme flash wipe,but has the same functions as CWM recovery.
Hey but as you can see I still have no thanks yet, even though every post I have done has been ta answer questions that I have had myself and read many posts to find a answer or solution.
So If I did help ya plz hit the thanks button. Sorry tasound soo desperate for a thanks but just one would make my year.LOL.
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He also has the same kernel with ACS recovery, I highly recomend the ACS recovery, there are a couple extra goodies in it such as pre ROM flash wipe and pre theme flash wipe,but has the same functions as CWM recovery.
Hey but as you can see I still have no thanks yet, even though every post I have done has been ta answer questions that I have had myself and read many posts to find a answer or solution.
So If I did help ya plz hit the thanks button. Sorry tasound soo desperate for a thanks but just one would make my year.LOL.
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yeah all 7 of them in how long? lol.
i'll give you a thanks though
YES my first thanks
Sorry I'm more of a do it yourself brick fixer. I just do alot of reading not alot of posting. But when I do it is because I see plp in the same situation and I try ta help them out. Of course after hours of searching and reading and fixing my issues.
But bigthanks on the thanks from ya.
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Hey thanks fester ya rock man.
I luv the line on the addams family. " My name is fester. it means to rot " LOL. No disrespect intended.
Indrid Cole said:
He also has the same kernel with ACS recovery, I highly recomend the ACS recovery, there are a couple extra goodies in it such as pre ROM flash wipe and pre theme flash wipe,but has the same functions as CWM recovery.
Hey but as you can see I still have no thanks yet, even though every post I have done has been ta answer questions that I have had myself and read many posts to find a answer or solution.
So If I did help ya plz hit the thanks button. Sorry tasound soo desperate for a thanks but just one would make my year.LOL.
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you got a thanks from me for being the first to recommend ACS5 recovery..
Hey thanks Chris I luv ACS stuff. The best on XDA for the et4g.
Thanks for the responses all, certainly clears things up and gives me solace that I can swap kernels if needed.
To clarify, do I need to install the EK02 update before I flash the EK02 kernel?
Also, the EK02 update is not released yet, correct?
lafester said:
maybe i missed it but why do kernels have to overwrite recovery?
just seems like recovery should be untouched by anything except flashing a stock kernel or another recovery.
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It's a Samsung architecture thing - kernels don't overwrite recovery, they INCLUDE recovery within the initramfs. Change the initramfs, you change the included recovery.
On other devices (including Snapdragon-based Samsungs and Tegra-based Samsungs), there is a separate recovery partition/image that has its own kernel, but not Exynos/Hummingbird based devices.
Not defending anyone but everybody and their dogs flame dwsmith for posting in the wrong section, yet, this one is ok? I don't understand this.
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Not defending anyone but everybody and their dogs flame dwsmith for posting in the wrong section, yet, this one is ok? I don't understand this.
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Nobody is 'ok', if you read the first few posts, you'll see that I get 'reprimanded' point made, and taken. Now besides that does that mean that the thread can't be responded to and the help given? Does that make the thread non worthy of a response? I'd move it if I could. Should I go create the same thread in Q&A and start over?
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you got a thanks from me for being the first to recommend ACS5 recovery..
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I can't believe more people aren't recommending it. Anyhow, got a thanks from me for the same reason. Chris, I am wondering if people are hesitating because they think they wont get the same performance as they do on your stock repacked with CWM5. The performance is as good with the great recovery
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EK02 modem/kernel
No youdo not have to flash the EK02 update to flash the kernel. You can flash the kernel first. Actually you can flash in any order. Kernel/modem/update. I sofar have EK02 kernel and modem installed but have not flashed the ROM update yet.
Also this is not a official release from sammy yet. But have it from good sources that this will be the final build they will release soon.
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slick4mitch said:
Not defending anyone but everybody and their dogs flame dwsmith for posting in the wrong section, yet, this one is ok? I don't understand this.
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Im sure this will be moved to the Q&A, So chill.
Related
First of based off my post count you can tell that I am new to this so please be kind.
On the Blend ICS thread I have seen (can't post there yet, that's why I am posting here) several people state that it is best to run FC14 on the stock FC14 kernel, but that kernel does not include CWM so in order for me to update to a new ROM I would need to flash back (Odin) to a kernel that does include CWM. Please correct me if I'm wrong...
So, to get off of the stock kernel (no CWM) should I use the [KERNEL/RECOVERY][ICS] Rogue *Stock FC07* (New 3/10/12) kernel for this? Sorry if this is noobish, I only ask because in that thread it states:
Warning-
***DO NOT USE THIS RECOVERY TO FLASH ANY ROM***
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so, I don't want to brick my phone and thought that I should ask before I use it.
Welcome!
You'll probably want to read over this thread as it should answer your questions about the brick concerns:
How Not To Brick Your E4GT
Thanks for the welcome, and also thanks for the response.
I guess my specific question is what are they (e.g. bigtoysrock) using as the kernel with CWM support when flashing using Odin so that they can flash a new ROM?
Canis-X said:
Thanks for the welcome, and also thanks for the response.
I guess my specific question is what are they (e.g. bigtoysrock) using as the kernel with CWM support when flashing using Odin so that they can flash a new ROM?
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Got your PM. I use This FB21 tar to get recovery back. Personally I dont use the FC07 one, just cause I have the FB21 already.
Thanks so much for your response!
Cheers!
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Im running a fd26 build, and honestly even going over the wiki and stuff im still a bit confuddled, i saw recently that fe16 come up but not under the rom section, it was under the modem section. I guess im asking does it work its way to being ROM'd after having some development time or was the fe16 just a modem update and not an entire ROM update? Anyone who can decypher my gibberish i give kuddos to.
fe16 is a date. The date at which the rom, kernal, and modem were released.
In the development section there is a thread that has the stock fe16 update, which will update rom kernal and modem.
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Also, any modem will work with any rom... GB or ICS
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Im running a fd26 build, and honestly even going over the wiki and stuff im still a bit confuddled, i saw recently that fe16 come up but not under the rom section, it was under the modem section. I guess im asking does it work its way to being ROM'd after having some development time or was the fe16 just a modem update and not an entire ROM update? Anyone who can decypher my gibberish i give kuddos to.
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What rom are you running right now?
Thanks
Ok i did find it, and one more question, there are 2 downloads, a deo-odex'd and a non deo-odex'd, what is the differnece, then i promise, stupid questions will be done.
Cygnus72 said:
Ok i did find it, and one more question, there are 2 downloads, a deo-odex'd and a non deo-odex'd, what is the differnece, then i promise, stupid questions will be done.
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The only stupid question is the unasked one.
I'm unsure exactly on the odex deodex but I believe one can be themed and the other can't. (<---- doing some research now, apparently this isn't necessarily true) There are probably other differences but hopefully someone with more knowledge will chime in.
Found this in an article on XDA. (Yes I know it says for Eee Pad Transformer but assumed the answer applies in general.)
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-best-of-both-worlds-for-eee-pad-transformer/
The deodex vs odex debate is nearly as old as Android itself. While deodex allows for customization, odex typically wins the performance race and no one can be really sure which one is better.
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-odex-and-deodex-in-android-complete-guide/
Thanks
Thanks for the info, im looking at all this inbetween taking calls at work lol. Probably gonna flash it on lunch today, cause im impatient hehe. Thanks again for the replies.
SPH-D710.FD26_CL467198 is the build im running now to answer rwright64's question.
OK so, I was poking around the EVO 4G forum (I like to check in on my old flashing buddies every once in a while) and seen this ROM that I thought was sick! Its a tablet/phone crossover type thing with CM9.
CM9 Tablet/Hybrid
I would so love anyone that can port this to the Epic 4G Touch!!! I will confess my love to you! LOL.
Thanks in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717546
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rwright64 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717546
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WHAT?! I LOVE YOU MAN!!! Thanks so much!!!!
So.. is there just not enough interest in keeping a tabUI/hybrid rom current??
When AoKPm5 fell off the dev table, I was a little bummed, then PA was ported, and I felt like there was some promissing hope that we would be able to keep the development cruising along for the tabUI/hybrids..
Well.. maybe its just a matter of having the source for the ICS kernel for the E4GT, but with the "source" already floating around.. I'm thinking that the kernel source wasn't the hybrid answer.. I hope I am wrong here though..
Maybe if we have enough voice to say the hybrid roms are still wanted, the development will continue.. :/
sj
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sjsharksfan420 said:
So.. is there just not enough interest in keeping a tabUI/hybrid rom current??
When AoKPm5 fell off the dev table, I was a little bummed, then PA was ported, and I felt like there was some promissing hope that we would be able to keep the development cruising along for the tabUI/hybrids..
Well.. maybe its just a matter of having the source for the ICS kernel for the E4GT, but with the "source" already floating around.. I'm thinking that the kernel source wasn't the hybrid answer.. I hope I am wrong here though..
Maybe if we have enough voice to say the hybrid roms are still wanted, the development will continue.. :/
sj
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ONLY reason why Slim nTrim lost tab UI was cause the Dev who did tab UI stopped working on it, otherwise it would still be there. But Slim n Trim 2.0 has it still
pop into irc and check out my aokp builds. they have it.. and i usually build a new one every day.. of not more than one..
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ONLY reason why Slim nTrim lost tab UI was cause the Dev who did tab UI stopped working on it, otherwise it would still be there. But Slim n Trim 2.0 has it still
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Thank you sir, i will check that version out too.. i was using AoKPm5 still..
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pop into irc and check out my aokp builds. they have it.. and i usually build a new one every day.. of not more than one..
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And yes, I always keep my eye on your goo feed, but just don't know what thread to follow for discussion for your nightlies.. can you pm me a link for your irc channel?
sj
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http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#ICS-DEV-E4GT
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http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#ICS-DEV-E4GT
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Outstanding, thank you!!
(I just must have spaced out and forgot the nightlies were CM9 only.. for some reason, a second there I thought there might be an AoKP nightly.. )
sj
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Official aokp has weeklies.. But i build usually daily..
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Ive tried on a few times to flash your AOKP and I keep getting a status 7 error. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks
it needs to be flashed using twrp, it will still say error 7 but it will still flash.. its an assert error in twrp that only show when a rom is built natively with twrp
Gotcha, thanks
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it needs to be flashed using twrp, it will still say error 7 but it will still flash.. its an assert error in twrp that only show when a rom is built natively with twrp
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Hey Chris, I've been avoiding TWRP cause I thought it had a more "heavy" process to replace your recovery from TWRP. Is all that is needed to restore back to a backup with agat or cwr recoveries would be to just go back to stock first with a one-click or something? Or is that even needed?
This is the only thing keeping me from testing anything with TWRP.
sj
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i dont understand the question? if you flash a rom with twrp you will have twrp, if you flash one with cwm you will have cwm.. its no different, just a different gui.. you dont have to go back to stock. or anything like that
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i dont understand the question? if you flash a rom with twrp you will have twrp, if you flash one with cwm you will have cwm.. its no different, just a different gui.. you dont have to go back to stock. or anything like that
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I just thought I had read before that the only way to not run into issues after using TWRP was to go back to stock and then reinstall rom or backup after getting back to stock first.
If you don't have to do that and just factory reset is done from within FF18 (TWRP, CWR or Agats), then my concerns were mute at this point and I should have no problems going back and forth.
I am assuming that you are saying the latter is correct.
Edit: so if the latter is true, then I can flash kernels with different recoveries and they will overwrite eachother no problem? Does mobile Odin work the same if you have TWRP recovery?
The onther thing is that I didn't realize is that you helped or built TWRP, if that is the case, I would feel very comfortable using it, and I also didnt realize you built an FF18/CWR kernel.. I will have to grab that too..
sj
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sjsharksfan420 said:
I just thought I had read before that the only way to not run into issues after using TWRP was to go back to stock and then reinstall rom or backup after getting back to stock first.
If you don't have to do that and just factory reset is done from within FF18 (TWRP, CWR or Agats), then my concerns were mute at this point and I should have no problems going back and forth.
I am assuming that you are saying the latter is correct.
Edit: so if the latter is true, then I can flash kernels with different recoveries and they will overwrite eachother no problem? Does mobile Odin work the same if you have TWRP recovery?
The onther thing is that I didn't realize is that you helped or built TWRP, if that is the case, I would feel very comfortable using it, and I also didnt realize you built an FF18/CWR kernel.. I will have to grab that too..
sj
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yes i helped Dees_troy with twrp for this device, and I continue to help work on it, I consider it to be a great recovery...
I include it in my AOKP builds.. it includes safety features implemented and designed by Dees_troy and myself..
Those same safety features have been implemented in CM9 alpha6 and recent nightlies as well, so they are also safe.. which means those CWM versions are safe.
Any recovery made by me, Dees_troy, or TeamEpic since the release of TWRP would be considered safe..
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yes i helped Dees_troy with twrp for this device, and I continue to help work on it, I consider it to be a great recovery...
I include it in my AOKP builds.. it includes safety features implemented and designed by Dees_troy and myself..
Those same safety features have been implemented in CM9 alpha6 and recent nightlies as well, so they are also safe.. which means those CWM versions are safe.
Any recovery made by me, Dees_troy, or TeamEpic since the release of TWRP would be considered safe..
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Excellent Chris!! Thank you!! I will feel much more comfortable using it now!!
sj
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IMHO I don't find Tablet UI on a phone useful or desirable, why a tablet UI on a small screen when you can enjoy it at its fullest on a Tablet. Just my opinion no pun intended to anyone. There is a reason to it not being enabled on a phone trust me.
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IMHO I don't find Tablet UI on a phone useful or desirable, why a tablet UI on a small screen when you can enjoy it at its fullest on a Tablet. Just my opinion no pun intended to anyone. There is a reason to it not being enabled on a phone trust me.
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I know some do not like it, but I personally think it looks better smaller, and compact. I do not find it difficult to read as some have described. There are many was to increase font size and still use the compact UI. I don't need to increase however as I like the size it is .. and even though most of the development for that mod has slowed, some roms still have it incorporated to use if desired. I myself have an excellent backup of AoKPm5 with the modded system apps so that everything works perfect.. but its stuck with FF02 as the latest kernel, I haven't tried the latest AoKP kernels with it yet.. maybe m5 will still work with TI, dees_troy & Chris's kernel but I'm not sure..
But anyways, my point is as with most every mod and customization we have for this device, ppl use what they like cause of personal preference and what they like.
You are more that free to not like the tUI mod, but there are still some that like it..
sj
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Hey all, long time lurk, first actual post here though. I used to jump rom to rom back when I had the original Droid on VZW, but that was so long ago, at least in terms of Android Development anyhow. So ffwd to today, I've had my E4GT now for perhaps 2 months, and I've already rooted it, flashed a Team Rouge Recovery to it (cause it was the latest I think), and am on a stock GB EL29 Rom, and I think an EL26 Kernel.
Now, I know that things have complicated so much more since the last time I was savy doing all this, so I'm vague and still learning about all the different things that can be switched in and out, here and there. But I've been too caught up with all of the recent ICS issues that were presented with the leaks and the actual release. I've since found a rom that I'm comfortable with, AOKP 7-13 , but I'm not trying to mess anything up despite having done nothing but read for the past month and a half about what to do and not to do. One thing I am absolutely sure about is that I came into this scene at a horrible time lol, things have been changing as I read them!!
Now! With this rom, is it completely nessasary to use this specific recovery, CWM5? And, is this the recovery in question? If not, please point me in the correct direction.
And "the normal route" that is mentioned in the first information post in that AOKP thread, would that be the flashing of an ICS rom from a GB rom to prevent the emmc problem that was happening, even though such this rom has that feature removed (at least if I read it correctly)
I'm not stupid nor am I completely horrible at following directions, but after feeling like getting the run around just by attempting to piece together information from different sources, it would really just put my mind at ease, and stop the headaches lol, if someone whom this wasn't so...new to could provide me an outline to follow, or at least do this, don't do that pointers.
I know this is long, and thanks for reading. I'm just hoping to get back into the scene, I hate being anxious and not know, <-- ie. my current state
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Hey all, long time lurk, first actual post here though. I used to jump rom to rom back when I had the original Droid on VZW, but that was so long ago, at least in terms of Android Development anyhow. So ffwd to today, I've had my E4GT now for perhaps 2 months, and I've already rooted it, flashed a Team Rouge Recovery to it (cause it was the latest I think), and am on a stock GB EL29 Rom, and I think an EL26 Kernel.
Now, I know that things have complicated so much more since the last time I was savy doing all this, so I'm vague and still learning about all the different things that can be switched in and out, here and there. But I've been too caught up with all of the recent ICS issues that were presented with the leaks and the actual release. I've since found a rom that I'm comfortable with, AOKP 7-13 , but I'm not trying to mess anything up despite having done nothing but read for the past month and a half about what to do and not to do. One thing I am absolutely sure about is that I came into this scene at a horrible time lol, things have been changing as I read them!!
Now! With this rom, is it completely nessasary to use this specific recovery, CWM5? And, is this the recovery in question? If not, please point me in the correct direction.
And "the normal route" that is mentioned in the first information post in that AOKP thread, would that be the flashing of an ICS rom from a GB rom to prevent the emmc problem that was happening, even though such this rom has that feature removed (at least if I read it correctly)
I'm not stupid nor am I completely horrible at following directions, but after feeling like getting the run around just by attempting to piece together information from different sources, it would really just put my mind at ease, and stop the headaches lol, if someone whom this wasn't so...new to could provide me an outline to follow, or at least do this, don't do that pointers.
I know this is long, and thanks for reading. I'm just hoping to get back into the scene, I hate being anxious and not know, <-- ie. my current state
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Okay, first of all, AOKP already comes with a recovery (TWRP). However, if you would rather use clockworkmod then you can use this: http://tinyurl.com/7ysnylg Also, in any case where you want to flash a different ICS ROM, I suggest you use el26 CWM.
I'm aware of the TWRP that is included with the AOKP rom (listen to me, slinging around slang like a pro, lol) I only felt I needed to use CWM5 because it specified it in the instal instructions for the rom.
I would assume that I would need the CWM just for switching ICS's in the future, if that does turn out to be what I'll be doing, seeing as how ICS looks like it'll be nothing but improvements from here on oot.
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I'm aware of the TWRP that is included with the AOKP rom (listen to me, slinging around slang like a pro, lol) I only felt I needed to use CWM5 because it specified it in the instal instructions for the rom.
I would assume that I would need the CWM just for switching ICS's in the future, if that does turn out to be what I'll be doing, seeing as how ICS looks like it'll be nothing but improvements from here on oot.
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Ooooh I get you! yes its best and suggested to flash any new ics rom from el29 stockrooted
Odin el29 stock rooted
Then flash el26 cwm kernel
Reboot to recovery then flash the ics rom
If your already on an ics rom MY method is to always Odin el29 stockrooted
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
also if I helped you in anyway, Lets have some manners and hit the thanks!
Righteo, that helps some. Now I just gotta back everything up. I made my original backup once I first rooted, I shouldn't need to make additional, right? You can find rooted, stock GB roms to go back to...right? Lol its late...I need another doobie :cyclops:
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Actually, I'm already halfway through that. I am at el29, stock rooted. And I have the el26 kernel. I just need the CWM recovery, then the actual piece de resistance, the rom. Right Krazy?
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Righteo, that helps some. Now I just gotta back everything up. I made my original backup once I first rooted, I shouldn't need to make additional, right? You can find rooted, stock GB roms to go back to...right? Lol its late...I need another doobie :cyclops:
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Actually, I'm already halfway through that. I am at el29, stock rooted. And I have the el26 kernel. I just need the CWM recovery, then the actual piece de resistance, the rom. Right Krazy?
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http://chris41g.devphone.org/EpicTouch/Stock Repack/EL26/StockCWM-EL26.zip
That's the el26 kernel I use on GINGERBREAD
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
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I was actually in a similar situation as you. I came from flashing on the HTC Hero(which is running AOKP at the moment, and I'm soon going to flash the new Jellybean rom that was just released for it), and that phone is completely different from the E4GT. Although i didn't start flashing from GB, I started on ICS.
I actually went from FF18 Stock Rooted to AOKP milestone 6 Friday the 13th using Agat's recovery from source, and it's a safe recovery, without problems. I am now loving AOKP
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What about the yellow triangle thing I have been reading about. What causes this and how do you prevent it? Its kind of confusing to me.
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What about the yellow triangle thing I have been reading about. What causes this and how do you prevent it? Its kind of confusing to me.
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The yellow triangle is Samsung way of telling the techs an unofficial kernel was flashed to the phone. People use a jig or if your on ICS you can use triangle away to reset the binary counter.
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The yellow triangle is Samsung way of telling the techs an unofficial kernel was flashed to the phone. People use a jig or if your on ICS you can use triangle away to reset the binary counter.
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Thanks. I am looking to flash for the first time on this phone also, just got it a week ago. I came from the Vibrant which was so much more simple. Another question if you don't mind. I am on the now running stock OTA ICS. Do I just need to Odin a safe kernel then flash which ever ROM I choose or are the ICS kernels that are built from source now safe to flash from?
The kernels built from the source are safe. Agats kernel with recovery. You can flash that kernel being on stock FF18 and flash from there.
Edit: the agats kernel I have is for TW roms. So just do some research on what kernels you can use. (Cm9 and AOKP use different kernels.)
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The kernels built from the source are safe. Agats kernel with recovery. You can flash that kernel being on stock FF18 and flash from there.
Edit: the agats kernel I have is for TW roms. So just do some research on what kernels you can use. (Cm9 and AOKP use different kernels.)
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I have done a ton reading, just stuck in the old ways of my old phone and simplicity of flashing on it. It was all a little confusing because even some of the updated ROM threads still say flash back to EL26 first, which is also a TW kernel isn't it? But then I read in another place it is safe to use Agats kernel built from source and so on. I was a little shocked at considerably less custom ROM options on this phone compared to the Vibrant. Granted the Vibrant has been around longer, but there were so many more options at the start which kind of leads me to think it is just that much more work to do that on this phone. By no means is this a negative remark toward any developer, just sort of expected a lot more because it is a nice phone. I was looking to flash the Platinum version of this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712362 since I love the color red. But, thanks for help. I really appreciate it when someone actually gives an answer to a question instead of bash people new to a phone.
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The yellow triangle is Samsung way of telling the techs an unofficial kernel was flashed to the phone. People use a jig or if your on ICS you can use triangle away to reset the binary counter.
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And if I remember right, doesn't it only trigger if you flash an unofficial kernel through desktop Odin only? I know the Auto Root Package won't trigger it, and neither will Mobile Odin.
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And if I remember right, doesn't it only trigger if you flash an unofficial kernel through desktop Odin only? I know the Auto Root Package won't trigger it, and neither will Mobile Odin.
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Your correct only desktop triggers the yellow triangle.
Also just my steps to flashing roms 4 the e4gt
1. odin stock el29 rooted
2. flash the el26 cwm kernel (I provided on a few post back)
3. boot into recovery!
Flash what ever you want!
If you want to flash something else repeat those step! As you venture on you will get the hang of things! I hope!
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
also if I helped you in anyway, Lets have some manners and hit the thanks!
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I have done a ton reading, just stuck in the old ways of my old phone and simplicity of flashing on it. It was all a little confusing because even some of the updated ROM threads still say flash back to EL26 first, which is also a TW kernel isn't it? But then I read in another place it is safe to use Agats kernel built from source and so on. I was a little shocked at considerably less custom ROM options on this phone compared to the Vibrant. Granted the Vibrant has been around longer, but there were so many more options at the start which kind of leads me to think it is just that much more work to do that on this phone. By no means is this a negative remark toward any developer, just sort of expected a lot more because it is a nice phone. I was looking to flash the Platinum version of this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712362 since I love the color red. But, thanks for help. I really appreciate it when someone actually gives an answer to a question instead of bash people new to a phone.
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Y flash that! FTR!!! You can quote me on that! go AOKP or Paranoid Android even CM9. Or blu kuban! Has lots of unique mods!
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
also if I helped you in anyway, Lets have some manners and hit the thanks!
krazy_smokezalot said:
Y flash that! FTR!!! You can quote me on that! go AOKP or Paranoid Android even CM9. Or blu kuban! Has lots of unique mods!
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
also if I helped you in anyway, Lets have some manners and hit the thanks!
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I can vouch for AOKP M6. I have had two problems, both have fixed themselves(with time for the rom to settle in). Haven't tried Paranoid Android or CM9 yet. And I don't plan on it, as AOKP has everything I want in a rom.
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I can vouch for AOKP M6. I have had two problems, both have fixed themselves(with time for the rom to settle in). Haven't tried Paranoid Android or CM9 yet. And I don't plan on it, as AOKP has everything I want in a rom.
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What! Never tried Paranoid Android!! Wtf were u been at under a rock:what: lol u think aokp is the shut!?? Well Paranoid Android ****s on AOKP IMO!!!
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
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krazy_smokezalot said:
Y flash that! FTR!!! You can quote me on that! go AOKP or Paranoid Android even CM9. Or blu kuban! Has lots of unique mods!
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
also if I helped you in anyway, Lets have some manners and hit the thanks!
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I had all these on the Vibrant, but non are as stable as they were on the vibrant (as least by what I have read). AOKP would probably be my first choice because I am very familiar with Romanbb's work since he had a Vibrant at one time and is one of the best dev's.
krazy_smokezalot said:
What! Never tried Paranoid Android!! Wtf were u been at under a rock:what: lol u think aokp is the shut!?? Well Paranoid Android ****s on AOKP IMO!!!
AOKP M6 "Friday The 13th Edition"
also if I helped you in anyway, Lets have some manners and hit the thanks!
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Paranoid is a great ROM but some things are just a little to small for my tastes. But if I had a Galaxy Note then Paranoid would be the one for sure. But still my question wasn't answered, not getting smart, just looking for an answer...Do I need to flash back to EL26 or 29 before flashing an ICS ROM, or can I use the new safe kernels built from source? I think I need to be held by the hand on my first one.
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I had all these on the Vibrant, but non are as stable as they were on the vibrant (as least by what I have read). AOKP would probably be my first choice because I am very familiar with Romanbb's work since he had a Vibrant at one time and is one of the best dev's.
Paranoid is a great ROM but some things are just a little to small for my tastes. But if I had a Galaxy Note then Paranoid would be the one for sure. But still my question wasn't answered, not getting smart, just looking for an answer...Do I need to flash back to EL26 or 29 before flashing an ICS ROM, or can I use the new safe kernels built from source? I think I need to be held by the hand on my first one.
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You should be good from one of the safe kernels from source. I used Agat's recovery from source to flash AOKP from stock FF18 with no problems, did the normal factory reset instead of one of those format all zips. Not a problem with it. It should be safe to do as many factory resets/data wipes as you want from what I understand.
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The agats kernel is safe. Flashed two ICS roms already. If you like red, check out the hooligan rom by MaNuFaN721. Themed red.
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Hi guys. I know this is probably a stupid question, but I would love to get a recovery on my phone. I'm coming from the evo3d which as super easy to work with. Right more I'm on fk23 I believe it's called through Odin. Really want to try cm10
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Get mobile odin and flash the el 26 kernel. Really simple
Before you boot cm 10 don't forget to flash an ics or gb modem first in the same time of flashing the Rom
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Best thing to to would be to read the stickies and how tos. And then read them again. Improperly rooting and addding a custom kernel (Recovery is part of the kernel on this phone!) can brick your device!
Not saying this to be a smart ass. Really it's that important; read the stickies, wikis and how tos. And once you've done that you will surely enjoy this phone.
Then read through the ROM OP you wish to put on your phone and read the the following posts - all of them.
You will save a whole lot of frustration and get 99% of your questions answered before you go and ask.
You don't quite say how you got to FK23 and what version - I assume you used PC Odin and via the One-Click Stock Rooted method. If that's the case you can, as the previous poster suggested get Mobile Odin (via playstore - my recommendation to support the dev, or go to the devs post and download the xda only app and kernel part there) and flash the EL26 CWM kernel that way. Or you could even use the One-Click Kernel method rwilco12 has them all here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295 or the 'Direct boot to safe recovery - CM team has info here http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html
Either way, and espeically with Cyanogen builds follow the install directions - EXACTLY or you'll be making an expensive paperweight.
Good luck have fun.
FL16 Repack from agat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36613042#post36613042
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FL16 Repack from agat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36613042#post36613042
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Cool, thanks for the quick replies guys! I saw a FK23 packed with AGAT recovery floating somewhere, my question was, if I flash that with Odin, is that firmware compatible with cm10? Or Miuiv4.1? Or any rom for that matter if it doesn't specifically say built on fk23?
And so only the ICS kernel will work on those roms, eventhough they are JB? I thought I read somewhere that modems and kernels werent backwards compatible. Appreciate the quick responses, I'm not a total noob I've flashed and rooted lot of other phones, just got these phones in the mail wednesday though.
DO NOT use the TW kernel repacks on CM builds. That is a brick waiting to happen.
Modems that is another story. JB modems are needed for JB TW builds but some have been able to use older ones, most notebly on the AOSP ROMs.
My best advice stands read through the OP of the ROM you are wishing to use then read through the entire followup posts. The CM team golks suggests EL29 direct boot or EL26 'safe recovery' and then using the kernel supplied by the ROM - CM10 kernel. The Miui also has the same explicit instructions. I'd heed them. But the choice is yours
search is your friend.
Thank you leaderbuilder, I almost bricked my wife's phone twice. I got it fixed, but I just asked in another thread on some advice on what to study up on & I click here & read your post. Heading off to the stickies am I. Thanks again.
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