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Best Way To Handle Email

Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?

ackerchez said:
Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?
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is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?

walshieau said:
is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?
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Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.

ackerchez said:
Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.
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if the email server supports IMAP then use it....

Or to get full functionality, rent an exchange server mailbox from someone like 4smartphone (for about US$50 per annum) and get push email etc.

IMAP generates a lot more traffic than POP3. Just fetching a single
mailheader (send/receive when there is 1 new mail) yields over 10 kB more
traffic in IMAP. As my one subscription is limited to 10 MB/month, thus
using POP3 makes much more sense (speed could also be an argument,
altought even in GPRS it doesn't differ that much). Conseqently, I have
different entries for the same mailbox (currently: 3 IMAP, 1 POP3).... but
this also has to do with my question:
How do you guys work with different outgoing mailservers?
I have duplicated my mail account 4 times: once for each outgoing
mailserver I want to use. I then just make sure I have selected the
correct mailbox prior to starting a new message. But this hardly is an
elegant solution (I have to fetch mails for all of the accounts to keep
them up to date). As the different mailservers have no log in, I cannot
use them when not accessing via that particular provider. I have been
looking at some mechanism to hack the hosts file, but the tool
"pockethosts" isn't very well suited for this purpose (and haven't found
anything else).
Jörg

email
Hi, I'm currently using 3 email addresses on my phone plus the sync with my pc.(and home pc)
All I've come up with so far is to set all email pop/imap to only download headers, (and 2 of them only set for the last 3 days only),then I need to "select" manually what email I want to read and download them, the rest I leave for outlook to look after on my PC.
At the end of the day I finish up with a lot of "unread" emails on my phone, BUT once sync'd with pc they are all copied across anyway, just in my "outlook" folders, not my phone email accounts, if all that makes sense.
Any replies of forwards on my phone from any email includes my signature "email" that I prefer to use.
ie seperate work, personal etc
cheers
fadge

Server side filtering may be the answer for you.
http://www.modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Server+side+e-mail+filtering

gmail
I went to Gmail. Now it front-ends 4 different POP3 accounts, and with the spam protection it has it saves me from deleting a lot of crap. Only downside is that although I can read all my email on my Hermes, I can't really manage my Gmail account the way I want from the native mail client on the Hermes. No worries, I can always use the Mobile Gmail java app or go through IE to the mobile Gmail website. It's working for me...ymmv.

Galaxy Nexus and PUSH EMAIL.

As title.
Where is the push email support for non gmail account?

There was never support for IMAP push and still isn't. Seems Google isn't particularly interested in changing that.

gokpog said:
There was never support for IMAP push and still isn't. Seems Google isn't particularly interested in changing that.
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really disappointed from this "revolutionary" ICS.

That's what gmail is for.
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kangxi said:
That's what gmail is for.
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gmail is for personal use, I have other emails with PUSH support but
my phone doesn't support it.

Set up you gmail account through exchange

falconeight said:
Set up you gmail account through exchange
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please understand what we are talking about.

Set your other account to forward to a gmail account. You can even set the Gmail account to reply from the "professional" account. Or set up a Google Apps account with your business domain.
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If it's exchange you're looking for, touchdown supports push. I've been using it for years it works well.
What type of account is this?
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i love Touchdown exchange for my work email. Probably the best part is the pin required by my company's security isnt applied to the whole device, I only have to enter the PIN to open the email application. Id hate to have to enter PIN just to send a text message.

I'm disappointed that Gmail doesn't have push using the email app. There's push support on the iPhone, so why not on a native Google device?

The AOSP email app has support for exchange.

JCopernicus said:
The AOSP email app has support for exchange.
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Thank you for clarifying. This whole thread just freaked me out. IMAP? Who cares! But, Exchange? Yes please!

cpcrazyfly said:
i love Touchdown exchange for my work email. Probably the best part is the pin required by my company's security isnt applied to the whole device, I only have to enter the PIN to open the email application. Id hate to have to enter PIN just to send a text message.
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I just got my Galaxy Nexus and was hoping that this would be something that ICS would resolve. My single biggest gripe with Android is lack of native PUSH email notifications for non-Gmail email accounts.
I shouldn't have to forward emails to my gmail account for this to work. That is not a solution, but merely a half-crack workaround.
I don't have the ability to use Google apps with my work email account.
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/

Kaiten Mail
Check out Kaiten Mail. Based off K9 email, but I think it works better, and works great on tablets too.
https://market.android.com/details?...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5rYWl0ZW5tYWlsIl0.

mfive said:
I just got my Galaxy Nexus and was hoping that this would be something that ICS would resolve. My single biggest gripe with Android is lack of native PUSH email notifications for non-Gmail email accounts.
I shouldn't have to forward emails to my gmail account for this to work. That is not a solution, but merely a half-crack workaround.
I don't have the ability to use Google apps with my work email account.
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
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You can't just add "push", the email service needs to support it.
"Push" email is just a descriptor, it's not an actual implementation of anything specific.

mfive said:
I don't have an Exchange account, just an IMAP account. So it sounds like my only options are to get one of the shotty email clients in the app market or move to iPhone that supports this natively. I love android, this is just one of those things that's a priority for me. :-/
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The iPhone doesn't support PUSH (aka IMAP IDLE) for IMAP email servers. I'm positive it doesn't do it for the native email (my wife has an iPhone), can't say if there's an email client app that supports, but I want to say no since iOS will kill any background running app like that.
Get K9 mail for Android, I used it a lot a couple years ago via IMAP (before switching to Gmail full time), worked great for instant notifications.

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You can't just add "push", the email service needs to support it.
"Push" email is just a descriptor, it's not an actual implementation of anything specific.
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the email must support push email (IMAP idle) but the client must support that too.
my own server supports IMAP idle, I use the push service on every phone but it does not work on my galaxy nexus.
I must admit that android is only a soap bubble, you can't say that android is an advanced OS when it lacks the basic feature of feature phones.

I could've sworn I had a stock Email app on my Droid Charge at one point that was push. It was awesome. There has to be a stock or AOSP Email app apk out there somewhere that we can use.

Galaxy Sll email app has it...maybe someone can port it.
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Microsoft Exchange Guru pls

Hi all -
Just got the E4GT , moved from an EVO 3D.
I'm concerned because in my exchange options I don't have the ability or option to have it sync all my folders AND subfolders as well as provide a notification? like I did on the EVO 3D.
Is there another version I can flash so I don't have to sync each folder to get new mail?
Really hope there is a way as I'd be forced to take this back because I need to get my email in real time.

No one uses exchange on this device? Or everyone is too saddened by the fact that you can't sync subfolders to reply?

To my knowledge with the base e-mail application you can't sync sub folders automatically (only the inbox). I have been able to do it though with "Enhanced E-Mail", you should be able to with "Touchdown" (got Enhanced E-mail for free on one of the amazon daily free apps, so I haven't tried Touchdown), and I have also read K-9 Mail can do it (it's a free app), but I have not been able to successful connect it to Exchange yet, only IMAP and POP3. They can all be found on the app market.
If you decide to buy Enhanced E-mail here is how you can setup folders to auto sync
1. open app
2. click the menu button
3. click Folders
4. click and hold on the folder you want to auto sync
5. click Toggle sync
6. wait as the folder is synced, the app will run slow so you can only do 1 folder at a time. To my knowledge there is no way to toggle sync on all the folders, so you have to go through each one.

VoX_XDA said:
No one uses exchange on this device? Or everyone is too saddened by the fact that you can't sync subfolders to reply?
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The reason you could do this on the EVO 3D, and that you cannot do this on the E4GT is that the EVO 3D actually setup an exchange account, very similar to how touchdown interfaces with your exchange server, and the default mail app for the E4GT only uses ActiveSync.
ActiveSync only refreshes your inbox, and you will need to manually check each subfolder for new messages. To resolve your issue, you will need to use a mail client other than the stock app.

Thanks everyone for the replies. Anyway of porting the apk from the EVO 3D to the E4GT?

just buy Touchdown, and your problem is solved..

Touchdown has a 30 day trial - give it a shot and see if you like it (because it's bloody expensive for an app... although inexpensive for what it's actually giving you). It's been on sale infrequently before so I'm planning on using the trial until it goes on sale - I reflash my phone enough anyway, plus it doesn't really work 100% for my exchange server for some wonky reason.
I have to use http exchange on my desktop outlook and the mobile outlooks never have the option for that and touchdown is the only one that at least synchs mail for me.
I also have Enhanced EMail from the FAOTD but since it only wants to do activesync that doesn't work for me. So I can't really say if it's better/worse.
If the EVO was actually creating an account (like in the settings -> accounts) for the e-mail I'd think that'd be more than an APK unfortunately so you'll be better off looking for a 3rd party solution.

sign up for the Amazon App Store; they have had touchdown on sale twice in the last few months...

I ended up getting Enhanced Email and it solves all the issues with syncing/notifications for subfolders.
Doesn't make sense for Android NOT to do this by default. Hope ICS fixes this terrible oversight.

HTC One X email clinet

Hey
Just converted from Iphone. Today I setup my HTC one X and have few questions. I like the HTC One X stock email client but what I fail to understand that why when I search mails it only search emails which currently resides in my HTC One X phone and doesn't give me option to search on server, an option which I had in my Iphone. This lack of search feature is literally annoying me as sometime I had to search emails which are very old and search on server feature comes handy at occasions.
Note: I have setup sync download type: by number of mails and the number is setup to 40 emails.
I did try K9 mail but it doesn't search either on server. Am I doing some mistake. Is there any way to sort this issue?
Best wishes,
Z

I'm interested too... Would be like to know how to search email on server and how to look up to Exchange Global Address (or email address in Public folder)
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Hello, make sure you sync "all folders" and set the current folder to "all folders" and the search will surely be more accurate.
But, if it doesn't work why don't you use the dedicated app ? Gmail or Hotmail for example ...
The app on the HOX is just a "simple" synced app, in my opinion, not a true mail app like you had on your iphone which was surely more like a "web mail" so that it was always connected to the server. The HTC ( android ? ) mail app is more a way to be alert on new mails than a "full content" mail app, like thunderbird or other apps for PCs.
You surely don't want your 5000+ mails on your phone or even old joined files which takes lots of room.
Another option is to import other mails in your gmail and use the gmail app.
I tried on my gmail and it looks like it searches on all mails.
Try'n'see

Thanks DanRZ for your feedback. I get your point about HOX email client as simply sync application. The whole idea of using HOX client was to have one stop integrated experience for emails rather than accessing different email accounts through different application.You probably are right in pointing out that dedicated email app like gmail app on HOX will resolve the problem but what about mails residing on other private networks like emails from my work or university. I will still not be able to search old emails from these accounts and my work and university certainly has no dedicated email app that could do that either.
Your point of importing them to gmail sounds promising but I already have thousands of emails on my gmail account and I don't want to clutter it more by importing it through gmail. Plus due to reason of confidentiality, I am not allowed to import my work emails to gmail account
In short, I am stuck. Is there any paid well professional application that could offer similar features as Iphone email client use to offer?
One more question: When HOX client or gmail app store emails on the phone? Are they stored on the 2 gb application space or it is stored on 25 gb space available on the phone?
Best wishes,
Z

The mail app DOES search the server. The what it does NOT do is search the body of the messages.. Don't know why but that's just how HTC did it.
Unfortunately there really isn't a 3rd party client that does proper search AND can sync more than one activesync account...
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Thanks ewok666 for your response. When searching I clicked 'option' (top right hand side) and selected sender, to and subject fields and then gave the keyword that was the person's name whose email I was searching, I also tried giving full email address as well. But it only returned results that were residing in my phone (i.e. 40 messages that were synced) and there was no option to further search on server as one see it in Iphone. If your point is right that it does search on the server them am I doing mistake, in this case could you please guide me. I would be really thankful to you.
Best wishes,
Z

zaask said:
Thanks ewok666 for your response. When searching I clicked 'option' (top right hand side) and selected sender, to and subject fields and then gave the keyword that was the person's name whose email I was searching, I also tried giving full email address as well. But it only returned results that were residing in my phone (i.e. 40 messages that were synced) and there was no option to further search on server as one see it in Iphone. If your point is right that it does search on the server them am I doing mistake, in this case could you please guide me. I would be really thankful to you.
Best wishes,
Z
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Sorry this has taken a while...are you trying to search an Exchange server? I don't know what other servers (if any) support server search. For me (using Exchange 2007 and 2010), as soon as I enter the search string I get some results and on the bottom I get "Search Server".

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Sorry this has taken a while...are you trying to search an Exchange server? I don't know what other servers (if any) support server search. For me (using Exchange 2007 and 2010), as soon as I enter the search string I get some results and on the bottom I get "Search Server".
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got the "search server" option too when connected to lotus traveler with default HOX email client.

Thanks for a reply. I have one email setup on exchange server and I found the search on server option as you mentioned but other accounts like my university email and gmail which uses IMAP protocol don't perform search on server or give that option, though they used to give it when I was using Iphone.

zaask said:
Thanks for a reply. I have one email setup on exchange server and I found the search on server option as you mentioned but other accounts like my university email and gmail which uses IMAP protocol don't perform search on server or give that option, though they used to give it when I was using Iphone.
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I have been using HTC phones since I switched from Windows Mobile 6 to Android. Whenever I needed to get any mail older than 2 weeks, I would have to go to the browser and search. I am not a fan of using the dedicated apps because the mail client seems like a one-stop-shop for aggregating all emails. I was surprised when I recently found that the iPhone email client does search the server.
I am rooted and decided to try a vanilla version of Android for sometime. I noticed that the stock Android email client does search the server for emails not on the phone. Let me see if I can find a way for you to download the email client...
Eyong

Unfortunately, it looks like you can't use Google's email client independently. Sorry
Eyong

[Q] Exchange GAL contacts missing

I recently picked up a Verizon LG3 and love it so far. I do have one issue where my corporate global address list doesn't show up in contacts. My personal contacts from my Exchange account show up, and no problems with calendar or email. Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the GAL contacts?

When you say GAL contacts do you mean the actual global address list or the contacts you have saved into your corporate exchange account?

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When you say GAL contacts do you mean the actual global address list or the contacts you have saved into your corporate exchange account?
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The corporate global address list is missing. Personal contacts that I have saved in Outlook come through fine, but the company address list does not.

Okay you should be able to open the people/contacts app and then press the search button and be able to search for anyone within your corporate organizations.

They aren't there. My personal contacts are there, but not the corporate list.

You will need to search them using the search function as the GAL will not save locally to your device... Just press search and type someone's name and that person should pop up. It may take a moment as it has to pull from the exchange server

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You will need to search them using the search function as the GAL will not save locally to your device... Just press search and type someone's name and that person should pop up. It may take a moment as it has to pull from the exchange server
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Is there not a way to pull all of the contacts into the contacts file of the phone? I've setup other users with other Android phones and the entire GAL is available on the phone.

I work in the IT department of a corporate company and I have not seen anyone set up like this. I am going to test myself with my own corporate email account to see what can be done

jamessinger94 said:
I work in the IT department of a corporate company and I have not seen anyone set up like this. I am going to test myself with my own corporate email account to see what can be done
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I also work in the IT department of our company, but I don't handle any Exchange related duties. I believe they are using Epicenter to create a cached copy of the GAL for mobile users. It may just be a case where my user account isn't included in the list of users to receive this GAL list.

Yep I reckon you would need to request access to this from your manager... Anything for these corporate companies to save money