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Epic 4g screen scratched resistance?

I just got a clear screen protecter, my buddy told me I didn't need one because the screen is gurilla glass and scratch resistance. Is this true?
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My screen has scratches

Guess I did the right thing then by getting the screen protector. Lol thanks
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Yup its not scratchproof sadly
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Yes you did. It is tough though only 2 scratches can be seen with the display lit. But with it off tons of little scratches

I have no scratch at all and have had it since Nov, but i make sure the pocket i use for my cell is empty of everything else. I do not use a case since it scratches the frame of the phone. I very often use my glasses cloth to clean thr screen the worse i have had is a real deep smudge that stayed for like 3 days but it just faded the more i wiped.
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No scratches at all on an unprotected and heavily used 8-month old Epic. I'm so confident in the screen that I chose to keep my new one unprotected as well.
The feel of screen protectors sucks enough to offset the benefits for me and my use.

Best advice to not scratch your phone is to never use your shirt (even the inside) to clean your screen. EVEN if your shirt appears clean. The screen is not scratch proof against many types of materials which gather as tiny dust particles such as granite and others. Use a cheap protector and you'll be thankful.
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Blankrubber said:
Best advice to not scratch your phone is to never use your shirt (even the inside) to clean your screen. EVEN if your shirt appears clean. The screen is not scratch proof against many types of materials which gather as tiny dust particles such as granite and others. Use a cheap protector and you'll be thankful.
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But there's nothing compare to how smoooth and sexy the glass screen is D:

otee670 said:
I just got a clear screen protecter, my buddy told me I didn't need one because the screen is gurilla glass and scratch resistance. Is this true?
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The epic screen is definitely not scratch proof!! Screen protector is good, but invisishield is the way to go

i dont have a scratch on mine and i have this phone since release day. I guess it depends on the owner.

dropped my phone 5x from around 3ft, over the last 5 months. I have only one small scratch on my screen that i think my belt buckle did.
i took a swiss army knife to an epic before and it didnt leave a scratch.
gorilla glass IS scratch resistant. I dont think there exist a screen that is scratch PROOF.
for a quick test take a sharp key and try to scratch an epic and a phone w/o gorilla glass. see what one has more dmg to it.

I've had mine for a couple of months with no scratching. I suspect I've just been very lucky. I left it on the roof of my Jeep while loading furniture once. Remembered it when I saw it fly off in to traffic behind me. I'd driven about 5 miles and was doing 75mph when it went airborn. After the first bounce it came out of it's leather case. When I ran back down the highway and picked it up the case, phone, phone back and battery were scattered around. The screen still looks like new. The silver on the corners of the phone is worn away and I have a hole in the leather case. I think the high speed of the air kept the screen facing off to the side so only the phone corners hit the pavement. That was a couple of weeks ago. Everything is still working fine. I don't know how much I should attribute to luck and how much to good construction.

I go on ebay and buy like 5 for 2 bucks free shiping and the screen looks clear
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Shoulon said:
But there's nothing compare to how smoooth and sexy the glass screen is D:
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You indeed speak the truth. I have to fight myself every couple of days to not take my protector off.
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this phone can takes some hits.. me and my brother done dropped our phone many times and our screens are cracked and this thing still works no problems.. my sister has another android phone and had to take it back twice due to screen not working after it was cracked..

Finger wear spot

I was drinking a soda and it went down the wrong way and made me cough some up and a few drops got on my phone so I decided to clean it off with a wet coffee filter.
In doing so I noticed a spot where I always slide my finger to scroll down the water just stayed there, it's like it wore something off and now I can't see it just feel it sort of tacky. Never used a screen protector I love the smoothness of this screen.
Anyone else notice this? I hope it doesn't keep spreading.
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vopezy said:
I was drinking a soda and it went down the wrong way and made me cough some up and a few drops got on my phone so I decided to clean it off with a wet coffee filter.
In doing so I noticed a spot where I always slide my finger to scroll down the water just stayed there, it's like it wore something off and now I can't see it just feel it sort of tacky. Never used a screen protector I love the smoothness of this screen.
Anyone else notice this? I hope it doesn't keep spreading.
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I am still using the the screen protector that came with the phone...

And that's why I always use a screen protector, I paid good money for this phone and like to take care of it as much as possible
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vopezy said:
I was drinking a soda and it went down the wrong way and made me cough some up and a few drops got on my phone so I decided to clean it off with a wet coffee filter.
In doing so I noticed a spot where I always slide my finger to scroll down the water just stayed there, it's like it wore something off and now I can't see it just feel it sort of tacky. Never used a screen protector I love the smoothness of this screen.
Anyone else notice this? I hope it doesn't keep spreading.
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Put phone in a bag of rice take out battery and back cover so it can perhaps take the water out to prevent further damage !
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shahkam said:
Put phone in a bag of rice take out battery and back cover so it can perhaps take the water out to prevent further damage !
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He's not worried about that, its the wear he noticed while wiping off the few drops.
There must be some kind of coating on the gorilla glass that wore off in that area, which is odd.. but it must be what gives the screen that nice feel. I wouldn't worry about it if it doesn't affect the feel or look at all. Try a hard style screen protector, they are usually really smooth. I actually like the basic ones from the T-Mobile stores, very smooth. Zaggs are too soft for my liking.

Coatings are really common. I'd be that's indeed what it is and the only solution would be to replace the glass.
I always use screen protectors - I can't predict when I'm going to do something particularly stupid.

I have owned a zagg really nice, but yes very soft. I was thinking one from spigen. But do the tmobile ones cover the whole screen?
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I have owned a zagg really nice, but yes very soft. I was thinking one from spigen. But do the tmobile ones cover the whole screen?
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They don't unfortunately, they go past the button and around the earpiece a bit but not edge to edge due to the curving. The spigen one is one I have been wanting to try when this one wears out. It has the curved edges to cover the whole screen without bubbling or peeling slightly like the regular hard style ones do.

Is there actually a point for screen protectors?

I let my epic 4g bounce around in my pocket for 2+ years without a scratch, and my GS3 has been doing the same. Since I'm not an idiot, I don't keep my keys in the same pocket as my phone, so why would I ever need a screen protector?
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Are you asking why you should put a screen protector on or asking a rhetorical question?

metalfan78 said:
Are you asking why you should put a screen protector on or asking a rhetorical question?
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Lol
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Actually, yes a screen protector would benefit you. Even if you have gorilla glass, sand is STILL stronger and will scratch your screen. I keep nothing in my right pocket but my phone and I have a few micro scratch lines. It truly does suck to rely on screen protectors but at the end of the day, another layer of armor above your screen is never a bad thing. You can't put a price on that. Spending the few extra bucks on an invisishield to keep your phones resale value is priceless.
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Well... i think in order for sand to scratch your phone should you have a few grains in your pocket, I believe that would require you either being in an area where sand is a part of the environment, or where you work with sand....

haven't used one is over 20+ years and never had a problem or damaged screen !

I have a screen protector cause I like to play the "what if" game.
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I mean if you DONT care about scratches on your screen then there isn't really a point. But if you do, like the guy said there ^^^ you can play the what if game.
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It really depends on how you like to see your screen - scratch free or full of scratches. Cause one thing I guarantee you: it will scratch!
See, Gorilla Glass 2 is a sh#t when compared with GG1. For instance, I had my TF101 for almost a year, no screen protector, and I guess I could chop onions in there without having scratches. On the other hand, I have my S3 for nearly a month and I can spot some scratches. Well I guess in part they're my fault, I shouldn't had drunk in New Years's Eve as it would save my S3 a fall. However, apart from that I had always been very carefull, even more as I was waiting from my screen protector and case to arrive (I also got some "bruises" on the back case, true story! Don't drink unless you have an obex case or something like that, seriously... ).
The point is. For more carefull you can be accidents always happen, you can't avoid them. So, the only way to preserve your smarthphone would be to have a nice screen protector and a tight case. In my opinion, unless you're thinking in getting drunk, go to the beach, go camping, etc. you won't need an obex or a griffin, a diztronic or a zoogue would do the job.

Might as well slop Vaseline on your screen if you're going to put a screen protector on it.
Seriously, put your protected phone next to a nonprotected one with the screen on and tell me it's worth it.

$5 warranty exchange through tmobile fixes any scratches in a heartbeat... and its cheaper than buying a screen protector. Just sayin
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Why do people get so pissed off about stuff like this? If you don't like them don't use them, but don't give others **** for using one. As for the difference in screen quality, you clearly haven't used very available screen protector, have you? My JustLikeGlass is crystal clear, I can't see or feel a difference. I have actually put two on so was able to compare back to back.

Personally I don't like screen protectors, but I've noticed that the cheap ones off ebay gives much better feeling than Copter or likewise.

I think screen protectors are still worth it. Even though the gorilla glass is suppose to be scratch resistant, I still see people with many scratches on their screens.

DAvid_B said:
Might as well slop Vaseline on your screen if you're going to put a screen protector on it.
Seriously, put your protected phone next to a nonprotected one with the screen on and tell me it's worth it.
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the dry ones are not bad.
the responce on my gs3 with otterbox defender case+screen combo is still better than some other phones ive tried
the screen protector is not sticky so can always remove to clean case etc

Is there actually a point for this battle of the minds thread?
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not really just some people trying to force there opionions on others.
some people me included buy phone cases with screen protecters that can take a beating becaue of the type of work we do.
one day can be working in a hospital,another a pub another a house and another indutrial
we are genurally spread thin so need phones to keep in contact and without a reliable case+screen protector we cant do our jobs.
without guys doing what we do then you would have no electricity so no internet either
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DAvid_B said:
Seriously, put your protected phone next to a nonprotected one with the screen on and tell me it's worth it.
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Are you inspecting them with a microscope? As I can't tell the difference between a protected and unprotected screen.

I see no point in screen protectors because when u have it on it looks like its full of scratches until u replace it and the screen protectors scratch more easy. Gorilla glass doesn't get scratched easily by keys just watchout for sand but that scratches pretty much everything
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I don't think anyone is forcing any opinions on other people and this is a pretty interesting thread.
I personally hate screen protectors. I never used one on my S2 but towards the last month I had it before I got the S3, I got this pretty small scratch on it and every time I looked at it it pissed me off. Almost nobody I showed it to was able to notice it, but since I knew are it was I always noticed it. Now I have one in my Susie day 1 (2 months now) and I'm sick of it. I'm debating on taking it off. I can notice a difference.
Type R-blood

Just ordered an otterbox defender, did i make a mistake?

I recently won a bid on ebay for a note II so naturally i want to protect it the best i can. I am the type of person who can be a bit hard on phones. I drop them, sometimes things can fall on them and so on so i need good protection. I pretty much have an otterbox on everything i own so i figured i would order one for my note II. Im wondering if i made a mistake because the reviews im reading arent very good. Can anyone comment about the case on the note II? Most things im reading is the outside stretches quickly and the plastic screen protector really diminishes the quality of the screen. If this is a bad case, can someone recommend the best solution for protecting the phone AND the screen, even if its two seperate parts.

I have the otterbox for note 2. Hasn't stretched at all. It's a chore to get it off really.
My wife's gs3 otterbox has stretched. But this one is much better.
It's great for falls, but it's not sealed as much as the evo otterbox. Not sure this case would save the note 2 from a fall in the dog water bowl like evo did.
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Smidgers said:
I have the otterbox for note 2. Hasn't stretched at all. It's a chore to get it off really.
My wife's gs3 otterbox has stretched. But this one is much better.
It's great for falls, but it's not sealed as much as the evo otterbox. Not sure this case would save the note 2 from a fall in the dog water bowl like evo did.
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How bad does the screen protector deminish screen quality?

GMcD said:
How bad does the screen protector deminish screen quality?
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Not any more than the evo or gs3 cases. Any time you put a screen protector on, it's not going to be quite the same.
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GMcD said:
I....reviews im reading arent very good. ...[the] the outside stretches quickly and the plastic screen protector really diminishes the quality of the screen. ...
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Not trying to pick on you. But statements like this make me shake my head. Big deal the case scratches. It's better the case than the phone, right? Not that I'm ignorant, and know you don't want some case that's going to look like a cat scratching toy after a month. From what I read, usually the shinny slick cases tend to show more scratches.
As for the screen, I don't think you'll notice much if any deminished screen output from the screen protector if you've been using the Otterbox Defender on previous phones. I don't think it's that likely the screen protector is that much different from other Defenders for other phones.
My guess, I think you're psyching yourself out.

When I had my otterbox, I removed the built in "screen protector" and had a zagg on it. I dont like the built in one as sand and small particles can get inbetween screen and the "protector" and when you use it. Your mashing thos into the screen. I would advise you to remove the screen protector and install your own directly onto the phone. Other than that great case.
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With the evo, it was so sealed I didn't want to change screen protectors. With the note 2, that may be an option. But I think that would be the case with any note 2 case
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lovekeiiy said:
Not trying to pick on you. But statements like this make me shake my head. Big deal the case scratches. It's better the case than the phone, right? Not that I'm ignorant, and know you don't want some case that's going to look like a cat scratching toy after a month. From what I read, usually the shinny slick cases tend to show more scratches.
As for the screen, I don't think you'll notice much if any deminished screen output from the screen protector if you've been using the Otterbox Defender on previous phones. I don't think it's that likely the screen protector is that much different from other Defenders for other phones.
My guess, I think you're psyching yourself out.
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Apparently you are ignorant. I said stretches, as in the rubber stretches quickly causing it not to stay on the phone, no scratches.

JamesChilds said:
When I had my otterbox, I removed the built in "screen protector" and had a zagg on it. I dont like the built in one as sand and small particles can get inbetween screen and the "protector" and when you use it. Your mashing thos into the screen. I would advise you to remove the screen protector and install your own directly onto the phone. Other than that great case.
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I like this idea and think ill do this. Can you recommend a good screen protector that doesn't degrade the quality much?

GMcD said:
Apparently you are ignorant. I said stretches, as in the rubber stretches quickly causing it not to stay on the phone, no scratches.
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Well, as lovely of compliment that is, either I don't know know the difference between stretch and scratch, or I wasn't paying close enough attention. Given what I wrote, the safer bet is the later. Thus, my most of drabble was not on point. But I digress....
Back to the topic at hand, As for screen protectors, I suggest checking out this thread, Screen Protector Reviews in the international GN2 subforum. It's 28 pages of this morning. I stopped reading it about a month or so ago. There was another thread, even longer, but it got removed.
Personally, I use the Just Like Glass screen protector. It's a wet application. Covers all viewable screen, but doesn't go to the edge. So cases that go over the edge won't push on it, like TPU cases with lips don't play nice with screen protectors that do go the edge. I'm not sure how the defender sits on the phone off the top of my head, so not sure if the JLG would work well or not. Since you're so rough on phones, it may be. JLG uses similar tech to hurricane glass, and claim it adds 35% shatter resistance; their numbers, not mine. It's stiff, really thin, and it feels very similar to the actual glass. I like it.
It's not perfect. It will get small scratches. I have a couple, but I rarely notice them. There is a rainbow effect that can be seen under halogen lights and the screen off. When the screen is on, you don't see it, at least I never have. It's a side effect from the UV protection the protector has. Some complain that screen protector scratches easily. I don't know how easily, but I have a few, but I don't see them when the display is on. I'm not sure if they came with one or not, but I know JLG owner was looking into getting a dry application model. Plus, unless something has changed, JLG goes give good customer service. Shoot an email to the ower, some guy named Scott, and he'll work with you as much as possible. He knows screen protector isn't for everyone.
It also works very well with the Spen. Others have had issues, from what I read, with Zagg Invisishield. The Spen sticks, unresponsive, to actaully scratching the screen protector. Some have said the Zagg's HD works well. But from what I gathered, for the Spen to work well, you'll want to get the thinner protects, which end up being less scratch resistant.
Here a picture of my GN2 shortly after I put it on:
if you click the picture, you can see a really big picture. But you can see how much of the GN2 it covers. I use a Cruzerlite TPU clear case. I'm still using the same screen protector and case, which has been close to six months.
For me, as long as the flaws are noticeable when the screen is on, it doesn't bother me. It's currently being sold for $13.50, so it's one of the more reasonable priced protectors. It only comes packaged with one protector.
Hopefully that helps.

lovekeiiy said:
Well, as lovely of compliment that is, either I don't know know the difference between stretch and scratch, or I wasn't paying close enough attention. Given what I wrote, the safer bet is the later. Thus, my most of drabble was not on point. But I digress....
Back to the topic at hand, As for screen protectors, I suggest checking out this thread, Screen Protector Reviews in the international GN2 subforum. It's 28 pages of this morning. I stopped reading it about a month or so ago. There was another thread, even longer, but it got removed.
Personally, I use the Just Like Glass screen protector. It's a wet application. Covers all viewable screen, but doesn't go to the edge. So cases that go over the edge won't push on it, like TPU cases with lips don't play nice with screen protectors that do go the edge. I'm not sure how the defender sits on the phone off the top of my head, so not sure if the JLG would work well or not. Since you're so rough on phones, it may be. JLG uses similar tech to hurricane glass, and claim it adds 35% shatter resistance; their numbers, not mine. It's stiff, really thin, and it feels very similar to the actual glass. I like it.
It's not perfect. It will get small scratches. I have a couple, but I rarely notice them. There is a rainbow effect that can be seen under halogen lights and the screen off. When the screen is on, you don't see it, at least I never have. It's a side effect from the UV protection the protector has. Some complain that screen protector scratches easily. I don't know how easily, but I have a few, but I don't see them when the display is on. I'm not sure if they came with one or not, but I know JLG owner was looking into getting a dry application model. Plus, unless something has changed, JLG goes give good customer service. Shoot an email to the ower, some guy named Scott, and he'll work with you as much as possible. He knows screen protector isn't for everyone.
It also works very well with the Spen. Others have had issues, from what I read, with Zagg Invisishield. The Spen sticks, unresponsive, to actaully scratching the screen protector. Some have said the Zagg's HD works well. But from what I gathered, for the Spen to work well, you'll want to get the thinner protects, which end up being less scratch resistant.
Here a picture of my GN2 shortly after I put it on:
if you click the picture, you can see a really big picture. But you can see how much of the GN2 it covers. I use a Cruzerlite TPU clear case. I'm still using the same screen protector and case, which has been close to six months.
For me, as long as the flaws are noticeable when the screen is on, it doesn't bother me. It's currently being sold for $13.50, so it's one of the more reasonable priced protectors. It only comes packaged with one protector.
Hopefully that helps.
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I appreciate the reply. After doing a ton of searching, I found just about everyone who bought a SGP Ultra Oleophobic seemed to love it so I'm gonna try that. I wanted to get the just like glass but the wet application sort of scared me away. I'll report my findings when I get it and the phone.

JamesChilds said:
When I had my otterbox, I removed the built in "screen protector" and had a zagg on it. I dont like the built in one as sand and small particles can get inbetween screen and the "protector" and when you use it. Your mashing thos into the screen. I would advise you to remove the screen protector and install your own directly onto the phone. Other than that great case.
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I agree with this.
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I really like zagg. They give you lifetime warranty so if protector begins to peel you can get another for free.
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JamesChilds said:
I really like zagg. They give you lifetime warranty so if protector begins to peel you can get another for free.
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Not really free. You have to return the original and pay for shipping. Now Otterbox's warranty is second to none. Just send it pics of damage and they will send you out a replacement completely free of charge. Now when I bought the first black Defender I had a pretty nice gap between the built in screen protector and the phone's screen. It really was annoying especially playing games or texting. I ended up giving that one to my wife and buying the grey/white one off Amazon for $35. This one has no gap and fits like its supposed to. It's been a few months and I've had no problem with dust in screen or silicone stretching. This one seems to be built correctly. Not so much for the Defender for my EvoLTE. Been a year and I'm on my 5th one.
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Otterbox Warranty: they didn't even request a picture when my evo case broke. Just took down the info and sent me a new one and told me to discard the old one.
I was amazed. Shows how much they stand behind their product.
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I bought the white glacer outer box with holster and only used it one day....its too big any one wants to buy it send me a pm.
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I popped out the screen protector part as dust kept getting in the stupid hole they cut in it. My phone stays in my pocket with nothing else so no scratches on the screen. If I'm going to throw my phone in my wife's bag when traveling or something like that I bring the clip to protect it. Worked for me so far..

I'm a contractor and I've put my otter box through hell, I remove it every night and have for six months and it hasn't stretched a bit. My phone is still cherry because of this case, I've dropped it 10 feet gotten concrete on it and it's coated in crap every day. Once you get used to all the iPhone kids making fun of the size it's awesome!
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They make fun because they are jealous.
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maybe. I think it's more from ignorance and being mindless Apple-drones.

What's the point of a screen protector?

I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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Yeah, I never understand it either. You buy a phone with a nice-ass screen and cover it up with some cheap plastic. Almost 2 years, my S4 is still looking good without any screen protectors.

av911 said:
Yeah, I never understand it either. You buy a phone with a nice-ass screen and cover it up with some cheap plastic. Almost 2 years, my S4 is still looking good without any screen protectors.
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Not to mention air bubbles, they get discolored after a while, you can't enjoy the screen quality, and I looked it up. Apprarently Gorilla glass can get scratched by a steel file, but nothing less.
Basically, unless you're carryimg around an iron file in your pockets, and putting your phone with it, you're good.
And yes, knives, and keys can scratch your screen, but you have to go out of your way to scratch it. It won't scratch if in contact like your pockets or something.
The only real risk of screen damage (realistically I'm real life settings) is dropping it. A screen protector isn't saving that. And if you work construction, a screen protector ain't saving your screen from what ever a gonna damage it on the site.
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I must admit there is a small scratch on the screen, visible at a certain angle with the screen off, but I don't look at my phone at that angle or with the screen off.

I've had a screen protector and Commuter series Otterbox case on mine since day one. I've only had to change the screen protector like 3 times in almost two years, and that's only because they started losing their resistance to fingerprints. I've never had any problems with air bubbles or screen dimming because I didn't buy el cheapo screen protectors, but they weren't expensive either.
After all this time, I can take off the case and screen protector and my S4 still looks like it did the day I bought it.
It's a small price to pay for keeping your phone in great condition. No doubt the next owner will appreciate it when I decide to upgrade.

tikay00 said:
I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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Strong and scratch resistant...not scratch-proof...big difference.
A good case can protect the screen from taking a skid across concrete just as well though.

I hear spider web makes a great screen protector.
Pp. Lol

KennyG123 said:
Strong and scratch resistant...not scratch-proof...big difference.
A good case can protect the screen from taking a skid across concrete just as well though.
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This.
Scratching can be done with less than a steel file.
I keep my phone in my front pocket and the only other thing that is ever in that pocket is paper money. Nothing else ever goes in that pocket.
I have 2 small scratches after 18 months. Neither visible when the screen is on...but there none the less. Best I can figure is they are from the metal rivets in my jeans.
A screen protector would have prevented that. But would have also lowered the quality of the screen in the mean time. Its a trade off. And each person has to decide which is more important to them.

Skipjacks said:
This.
Scratching can be done with less than a steel file.
I keep my phone in my front pocket and the only other thing that is ever in that pocket is paper money. Nothing else ever goes in that pocket.
I have 2 small scratches after 18 months. Neither visible when the screen is on...but there none the less. Best I can figure is they are from the metal rivets in my jeans.
A screen protector would have prevented that. But would have also lowered the quality of the screen in the mean time. Its a trade off. And each person has to decide which is more important to them.
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Been putting my phone in various pockets for the longest time, and absolutely no scratches. I don't know what you guys are doing to your phones. That sucks.
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Phone case is a different story. Need one. Screen protector, I don't get. I got one with my case, and I don't even use it. These screens do not scratch unless you're very reckless.
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tikay00 said:
I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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ive thought the same thing. so i didnt use them.
but i only buy flagships and the keep good resale value to put towards my next one.
so in that case, i use them to get the scratches on the plastic and the real screen is still fresh.
i also feel the same about cases! they make your phone look like tupperware!
resale resale resale! plus i dont like ugly beat up looking stuff.

tikay00 said:
Phone case is a different story. Need one. Screen protector, I don't get. I got one with my case, and I don't even use it. These screens do not scratch unless you're very reckless.
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Had 3 deep scratches on my S3. Near as I can tell it was from sharing the pocket with tools every now and then. So not sure about "very" reckless...but maybe only a "little" reckless.

logikism said:
ive thought the same thing. so i didnt use them.
but i only buy flagships and the keep good resale value to put towards my next one.
so in that case, i use them to get the scratches on the plastic and the real screen is still fresh.
i also feel the same about cases! they make your phone look like tupperware!
resale resale resale! plus i dont like ugly beat up looking stuff.
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Yep only need a phone case. Screen protector is useless unless you're dumb.
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KennyG123 said:
Had 3 deep scratches on my S3. Near as I can tell it was from sharing the pocket with tools every now and then. So not sure about "very" reckless...but maybe only a "little" reckless.
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Gotcha
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Lol, lemme get this straight...
You guys agree that screen protectors are "dumb" and "useless" while at the same time admitting that your screens have scratches on them...
Makes total sense. [/sarcasm]
I'll take the hardly noticeable decrease in screen clarity over scratches any days. You can always change the screen protector for something better, but even minor scratches are permanent. No thank you.

It depends on what screen protector you get, if you get the Chinese protectors 3 in a pack that look and feel like seran wrap you could windup with lose of clarity and a tacky rubbery feel.
Last year I got a Spigen thin air clear case and it came with a screen protector that looked like a rigid piece of plastic and kind of thick, I figured it's included with the case so I gave it a try. Well I was pleasantly surprised at the feel quality and clarity of the protector, you cannot tell that there is a screen protector on the screen, very hard and slick feel on screen and the same sharpness and vivid color of the original plain screen.
It was a ***** putting it on, had to wet the edges to get it on right, in the end it was well worth it.
Spigen screen protectors are considered premium screen protection.
Who knew.
Pp.

The only screen protectors I've ever used was a three pack from Tmo when I bought my S4 and the one that came with my Otterbox. I don't remember the brand of the three pack, but they worked just fine with no noticeable loss in clarity. The Otterbox screen protector has some weird wavy pattern when tilted while the screen is off, but it's otherwise fine. No noticeable loss of clarity with it either. I'm in no rush to get a new 3 pack.
Honestly, I don't know how anyone in this thread can seriously argue against using a screen protector especially considering the cost of the phone they protect. IMO it's right up there with purchasing the phone without insurance.

I grabbed the Otterbox Defender, popped the screen protector that comes with the OB out (because I got tired of little bits of dust getting behind that screen protector from either the charging port, speaker holes, or the headphone jack) and just put a Zagg Invisible Shield on it. On top of the dust getting behind the OB screen protector, it also seemed to add a type of haze to the screen which I didn't like. It obviously detracted from the 1080p HD look. I haven't changed the Zagg shield since I got the device and only very recently have I noticed very small lines appearing at the part of the screen where I swipe to unlock and the keyboard area.

The tempered glass screen protector I have used for the past two years has saved the screen glass two times now. One when a hammer fell out of my hand a couple feet from the floor and hit my phone by my feet. Glass protector cracked but the screen underneath was unscathed. The replacement survived multiple drops face first on concrete over the next year and only gained a couple micro fractures. Replaced that one last week and the screen underneath was still as good as new. Tempered glass protectors don't degrade image quality or hinder finger movement either. I know mine was extreme cases of abuse but they really are beneficial unless you feel like replacing the whole front glass of the phone after a mishap happens.

Flappyraccoon said:
The tempered glass screen protector I have used for the past two years has saved the screen glass two times now. One when a hammer fell out of my hand a couple feet from the floor and hit my phone by my feet. Glass protector cracked but the screen underneath was unscathed. The replacement survived multiple drops face first on concrete over the next year and only gained a couple micro fractures. Replaced that one last week and the screen underneath was still as good as new. Tempered glass protectors don't degrade image quality or hinder finger movement either. I know mine was extreme cases of abuse but they really are beneficial unless you feel like replacing the whole front glass of the phone after a mishap happens.
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Why would your phone ever be near your feet, or on the ground in general?
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